NFL Rd 2 - Kerry v Dublin - Austin Stack Park Sat 5 Feb 7pm

[pipsqueak01]

Very tidy structured performance. I’m happy to see they went with a 2-2-2 system in the forwards with a third midfielder type player on one wing and we can only carry 2 sharpshooters at a time who add little to the side of the game when not in possession. That means Tony, Killian and Paul are likely playing for the same spot. We are lucky then that link men such as Paudie, Sean and Dara have scores in them.

Again, I think it’s a defensive system we have been lacking rather than height. For too long we have been lining up 1 v 1. It looks like some shape is being added now and we have Gavin W and Mike to come back in. Things are looking well

[dc84]

We played ok and won by 8 , dublin a shambles really in every aspect playing silly buggers aswell re named team. I'd say mayo and kildare are sharpening knives as we speak

[Annascaultilidie]

I still can't get over the goal chance Dublin butchered in the first half.

[gaelicden]

Feb 5, 2022 20:57:28 GMT Annascaultilidie said:

I still can't get over the goal chance Dublin butchered in the first half.

Reminded me of a similar butchered chance they had against Tyrone in 2008.

[taggert]

Beat what was in front of us. Edgy first quarter (2 needless fouls by Foley for 2 scored frees) followed by excellent 2nd quarter when the match was won - Clifford is a different level. Went through the motions in the 2nd half scoring only 1 point. Good performances by Dara and Diarmuid which was nice to see. Geaney did very well in patches but left 1-4 behind him in misses, weather a factor of course. Still hugely reliant on scores from play from David. Still felt Dublin ran through us too easily at times, largely oeing to the absence of a physical presence there. Disappointed with Dublin selection antics.
Still 2 pts bagged. Onwards and upwards.

[The16thMan]

Kerry were definitely 10 points the better team on the night. Weren't smart enough in the 2nd half with the ball. Instead of keeping intensity and running at Dublin we just started to play lethargic football and hence we only got 1 point in the 2nd half. We need to be more ruthless. Send Dublin home with their tale between their legs. However we will take beating Dublin any day. It's time now we did it now in Championship this year

[mike70]

The defence were excellent tonight , they worked there socks off, in both directions.

[kerrybhoy06]

Greetings from the edge of the earth, Possibly the bleakest weather I’ve ever attended a match in.

We won and we won comfortably, Dublin were very poor but we beat them without hitting top gear ourselves.

I thought Barry did very well along with our superb number 11 and absolutely majestic number 14.

Paudi’s black card looked, from where I was, a terrible decision and Niall
Scully seems to have taken the mantle from Philly of no matter where I am on the pitch, no matter who is winning or what’s going on - I’ll start a pointless row. He was septic to watch off the ball.

Good enough for them, only disappointment was that we didn’t win by more.

Give them another €20 million

[listowelemerrs]

Positives- Diarmaid and Seanie along with 2 Clifford’s. Thought the half back line was solid. Begley stood out. Negatives . 1 point scored in 2nd half. Dublin missing 6/7 starters coming July.

[onlykerry]

Game won with a great (wind assisted) first half - some brilliant scores from distance in brutal conditions. Second half was a disappointment with Kerry only getting one point against the wind but never looked like coughing up their 13 point half time lead. Had two second half goal chances that we didn't convert. Won the first half by 13 but lost the second by six - would have preferred if we had kept playing positive football in second half rather than all the possession passing which we have been critical of other teams for doing.
Thought Lane was very lenient with Comerford particularly in the first half - the time wasting on kick outs and the length of time allowed for him to kick the free from the 45 was ridiculous.
Tough, physical game that kept referee Lane on his toes and had the crowd howling at some of his calls but I believe the replays showed he got most calls right on the night.

[taggert]

Feb 5, 2022 21:28:43 GMT kerrybhoy06 said:

Greetings from the edge of the earth, Possibly the bleakest weather I’ve ever attended a match in.

We won and we won comfortably, Dublin were very poor but we beat them without hitting top gear ourselves.

I thought Barry did very well along with our superb number 11 and absolutely majestic number 14.

Paudi’s black card looked, from where I was, a terrible decision and Niall
Scully seems to have taken the mantle from Philly of no matter where I am on the pitch, no matter who is winning or what’s going on - I’ll start a pointless row. He was septic to watch off the ball.

Good enough for them, only disappointment was that we didn’t win by more.

Give them another €20 million

Someone ran into David to goad him after the penalty miss. I saw in footage on the news there, that it was none other than the aforementioned Scully.

[Kingdomson]

Good confidence boosting win for Kerry but remember what happened with Tyrone last year after a great league win. We’d be wise to take this with a pinch of salt and Dublin will be a different animal come summer. I thought in the conditions Dublin were managing the game well in the first quarter but things fell asunder for them and Kerry got the breaks and played some wonderful kicking football in that second quarter.

I though Lane refereed the game well and we got some correct decisions tonight you'd hardly ever get in front of the hill in CP. Great to see Kerry kick the ball in that first half but of course come championship the space to kick into is not always there as we found out against Tyrone last year.

[greengold35]

Feb 5, 2022 21:22:22 GMT mike70 said:

The defence were excellent tonight , they worked there socks off, in both directions.

We were wide open at times in the early stages of the first half until such time as we got on top completely at midfield in the 2nd quarter- a few scary moments then but won the game with outstanding displays up front from the Clifford’s, Seanie & Dara Moynihan - Paudie & David were outstanding all through.
The 2nd half was about containment especially down to 14 for two periods ; quite how the ref penalised Paudie Clifford when he put David through was most baffling adding insult to injury when issuing a black card. Ciarán Kilkenny could have seen red for his hit on Seanie O’Shea as Dublin lost their composure as they fell to their 2nd league defeat.

[pipsqueak01]

Watching on TV, Lane got nearly every call right. People call for consistency and all the black cards were for checks. Paudies was the harshest because he had momentum but it suited him to collide after the offload but Lane was consistent throughout. His only major mistake was giving the black to Scully who was the wrong man

[kerrybhoy06]

Feb 5, 2022 21:41:29 GMT taggert said:

Feb 5, 2022 21:28:43 GMT kerrybhoy06 said:

Greetings from the edge of the earth, Possibly the bleakest weather I’ve ever attended a match in.

We won and we won comfortably, Dublin were very poor but we beat them without hitting top gear ourselves.

I thought Barry did very well along with our superb number 11 and absolutely majestic number 14.

Paudi’s black card looked, from where I was, a terrible decision and Niall
Scully seems to have taken the mantle from Philly of no matter where I am on the pitch, no matter who is winning or what’s going on - I’ll start a pointless row. He was septic to watch off the ball.

Good enough for them, only disappointment was that we didn’t win by more.

Give them another €20 million

Someone ran into David to goad him after the penalty miss. I saw in footage on the news there, that it was none other than the aforementioned Scully.

He was right in front of me for a lot of the game and the stuff he gets up to is absolutely ridiculous.
Starting rows at every kick out, late and sly hits, etc

Just a horrible, classless pr*ck

[Mickmack]

So a goal can be disallowed because the team that scored it committed a foul in the buildup!

Even though the ref didnt see it appears and had to be told about it by the officials.



I know they can do it in rugby but i have never seen it happen in a GAA match.

[Ard Mhacha]

I didn’t think Clifford deserved the black card. Dublin no 24 was a more blatant black in first half. He deliberately blocked the Kerry players path after he fisted the ball and was on the move forward.

[Mickmack]

Games can really turn on being reduced to 10 minutes due to a black card.

Jack Barry gave the ref no option that time.

Kerry ate Dublin while the Scully was off.

Game over then.

There was a time when Dublin would have coped with that set back but they had no answer tonight.

They appear to have the makings of a first 15 that will compete with the first 15 of anyone else but their panel is no longer what it was and that was their trump card.

I must watch the match tomorrow before making any more comment on the game.

The overall impression was that it was quite even till Dublin till Scullys black card.

The line ball Kerry got that led to the goal was a Dublin ball. We have suffered enough bad calls v Dublin so we are due a few more of those.

[john4]

Feb 5, 2022 22:09:12 GMT Mickmack said:

So a goal can be disallowed because the team that scored it committed a foul in the buildup!

Even though the ref didnt see it appears and had to be told about it by the officials.



I know they can do it in rugby but i have never seen it happen in a GAA match.

Tis pure luck for Shane Murphy that this goal was disallowed. A most monumental error. We're no closer to finding a quality goalkeeper. wtf was he doing

[carthalawn]

Kerry upped their footballing and physical intensity tonight. It was proper physical encounter. Dublin were rudderless. Couple of notable performances - half back line played really well - Morley playing some good stuff at six. The team setup allows a fellow like Adrian to have a role - for the second week in a row he put in a big shift.
Seanie and David were exceptional.
Dara M was different player this week.
I felt the midfield could have played deeper in the second half to help transition the ball - we overplayed the ball on a few occasions.
Paul G got on some great ball in the first half - missed a few but rolled back the years and showed his footballing acumen.
A good result against a poor Dublin side. The dubs can expect plenty more of the physical stuff before this league is done…..

[pipsqueak01]

Feb 5, 2022 22:19:48 GMT Mickmack said:

Games can really turn on being reduced to 10 minutes due to a black card.

Jack Barry gave the ref no option that time.

Kerry ate Dublin while the Scully was off.

Game over then.

There was a time when Dublin would have coped with that set back but they had no answer tonight.

They appear to have the makings of a first 15 that will compete with the first 15 of anyone else but their panel is no longer what it was and that was their trump card.

I must watch the match tomorrow before making any more comment on the game.

The overall impression was that it was quite even till Dublin till Scullys black card.

The line ball Kerry got that led to the goal was a Dublin ball. We have suffered enough bad calls v Dublin so we are due a few more of those.

It wasn’t a Dublin ball. The commentators were focussing on the Dublin player shepherding it out but he was shepherding out a ball that broke off a Dublin hand

[horsebox77]

Feb 5, 2022 21:48:33 GMT pipsqueak01 said:

Watching on TV, Lane got nearly every call right. People call for consistency and all the black cards were for checks. Paudies was the harshest because he had momentum but it suited him to collide after the offload but Lane was consistent throughout. His only major mistake was giving the black to Scully who was the wrong man

Completely agree, we are very quick to throw the boot into the man in the middle, but ya I though Lane was exceptional tonight on an night where the weather was not conducive to neat football.

[Mickmack]

Feb 5, 2022 22:20:15 GMT john4 said:

Feb 5, 2022 22:09:12 GMT Mickmack said:

So a goal can be disallowed because the team that scored it committed a foul in the buildup!

Even though the ref didnt see it appears and had to be told about it by the officials.



I know they can do it in rugby but i have never seen it happen in a GAA match.

Tis pure luck for Shane Murphy that this goal was disallowed. A most monumental error. We're no closer to finding a quality goalkeeper. wtf was he doing

It bounced down off the upright and hit him on the head/back and went it.

[horsebox77]

[/quote]Tis pure luck for Shane Murphy that this goal was disallowed. A most monumental error. We're no closer to finding a quality goalkeeper. wtf was he doing[/quote]

I think that could be a defining moment in his challenge for the kerry jersey….

[Mickmack]

Feb 5, 2022 22:24:17 GMT carthalawn said:

The dubs can expect plenty more of the physical stuff before this league is done…..

Yes...
They are away to Kildare, Tyrone and Monaghan.

Home to Mayo and Donegal.

[taggert]

Feb 5, 2022 22:28:27 GMT horsebox77 said:

Tis pure luck for Shane Murphy that this goal was disallowed. A most monumental error. We're no closer to finding a quality goalkeeper. wtf was he doing[/quote]

I think that could be a defining moment in his challenge for the kerry jersey….[/quote]


The 2 on 1 chance that Dublin butchered was terrible defending from a Kerry point of view. Appreciate it was a relatively isolated incident but we should not be undone so cheaply.

[john4]

Feb 5, 2022 22:35:17 GMT taggert said:

Feb 5, 2022 22:28:27 GMT horsebox77 said:

Tis pure luck for Shane Murphy that this goal was disallowed. A most monumental error. We're no closer to finding a quality goalkeeper. wtf was he doing

I think that could be a defining moment in his challenge for the kerry jersey….[/quote]


The 2 on 1 chance that Dublin butchered was terrible defending from a Kerry point of view. Appreciate it was a relatively isolated incident but we should not be undone so cheaply. [/quote]
Dublin were going long on the kickouts and we gambled with putting an extra man in the landing zone but lost the kickout. High risk strategy for sure!

[greengold35]

Feb 5, 2022 22:09:12 GMT Mickmack said:

So a goal can be disallowed because the team that scored it committed a foul in the buildup!

Even though the ref didnt see it appears and had to be told about it by the officials.



I know they can do it in rugby but i have never seen it happen in a GAA match.

Linesmen shall bring to the attention
of the Referee, during a break in play, any
instances of foul play, in particular rough or
dangerous play, striking, hitting, or kicking, or
unauthorised incursions onto the field of play
or other infraction of Rule by a team official,
which have not been noticed by the Referee.
They may also, if requested by the Referee,
assist in determining the validity of a score.

[pipsqueak01]

Feb 5, 2022 22:35:17 GMT taggert said:

Feb 5, 2022 22:28:27 GMT horsebox77 said:

Tis pure luck for Shane Murphy that this goal was disallowed. A most monumental error. We're no closer to finding a quality goalkeeper. wtf was he doing

I think that could be a defining moment in his challenge for the kerry jersey….[/quote]


The 2 on 1 chance that Dublin butchered was terrible defending from a Kerry point of view. Appreciate it was a relatively isolated incident but we should not be undone so cheaply. [/quote]


It’s the price you pay if you choose to aggressively press a kickout. If it doesn’t fall your way you end up in a dire scenario. That will happen a few times a season but if the reward is greater so be it. Same way Niall Morgan will undoubtedly be lobbed again at some stage but maybe it’s worth it! I thought Jason (I think it was him) defended excellently in that scenario. Kept the Dublin player in two minds. Didn’t let the shot or the pass be the obvious choice and that let to an abomination of an attempt of a pass to the back post

[Mickmack]

Feb 5, 2022 22:43:25 GMT greengold35 said:

Feb 5, 2022 22:09:12 GMT Mickmack said:

So a goal can be disallowed because the team that scored it committed a foul in the buildup!

Even though the ref didnt see it appears and had to be told about it by the officials.



I know they can do it in rugby but i have never seen it happen in a GAA match.

Linesmen shall bring to the attention
of the Referee, during a break in play, any
instances of foul play, in particular rough or
dangerous play, striking, hitting, or kicking, or
unauthorised incursions onto the field of play
or other infraction of Rule by a team official,
which have not been noticed by the Referee.
They may also, if requested by the Referee,
assist in determining the validity of a score.

Thats covers linesmen.

Linesmen can assist a ref in adjudicating on a score if the ref thinks an umpire got a call wrong or doesnt want to make a call.