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Post by royalkerryfan on Aug 13, 2021 21:52:27 GMT
Sean Boylan has just been on the radio with Damien Lawlor saying basically that the medical profession should be brought in to assess the situation and their view should dictate when the game goes ahead. He referenced the 1989 replay taking place on 13th October as the Tour de France stage was on here at the time. That's exactly what has happened. GAA instructed full test of Tyrone set up. Results returned and the GAA made a decision based on that medical information. I don't believe for a second the GAA would risk the safety of anyone.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Aug 13, 2021 22:17:35 GMT
Text from a Monaghan friend at work: "I hear Tyrone are playing mind games and blowing the issue out of all proportion". I think this could well be the case. The fact that no official numbers have been put out only adds to it. I hope Kerry are fully focused and expecting Tyrone to hit them with everything they have. Even if it enters the players’ heads subconsciously that Tyrone are weakened we could find ourselves in trouble. If it’s true Logan and Dooher are attempting to gain an advantage in the most unsporting way ever seen in the history of the GAA. Although surely the GAA know exactly how many positive cases they have?
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Post by dano on Aug 14, 2021 0:56:06 GMT
Agreed Re Tyrone and win at all cost. The Mcmahon guy roaring at Tommy Walsh in 2008 was something I always thought was unsporting and a bit over the top. I suppose they felt it was a necessary tactic. At the end of the day they won. That's all Kerry need to do the next day. Win! Take nothing for granted.
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Post by diego on Aug 14, 2021 9:24:58 GMT
Sean Boylan has just been on the radio with Damien Lawlor saying basically that the medical profession should be brought in to assess the situation and their view should dictate when the game goes ahead. He referenced the 1989 replay taking place on 13th October as the Tour de France stage was on here at the time. That was 1988 he was on about. Strange point to make, as the delay in the replay had nothing do with any player illness/injury. Also had nothing to with Tour de France which wasn't in Ireland that year and not anywhere at that time of year. Maybe it was the Nissan Classic.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 14, 2021 10:14:43 GMT
Sean Boylan has just been on the radio with Damien Lawlor saying basically that the medical profession should be brought in to assess the situation and their view should dictate when the game goes ahead. He referenced the 1989 replay taking place on 13th October as the Tour de France stage was on here at the time. That was 1988 he was on about. Strange point to make, as the delay in the replay had nothing do with any player illness/injury. Also had nothing to with Tour de France which wasn't in Ireland that year and not anywhere at that time of year. Maybe it was the Nissan Classic. I think his general point is to delay the semi final and final till everyone is in full health based on medical advice....which is impractical in my view.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 14, 2021 12:13:59 GMT
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Post by kingdomkerry on Aug 14, 2021 12:16:29 GMT
That's a balls
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Post by pillar on Aug 14, 2021 12:22:15 GMT
Will they get their extra week now I wonder?
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Post by gaelicden on Aug 14, 2021 12:22:29 GMT
Ah now!!! YOU CAN'T DO THAT 😠😠
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Post by ataboy on Aug 14, 2021 12:24:31 GMT
Disastrous. Does anyone know how many actually are positive? Rumours of 17 and also a wedding involved?
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Post by ciarraigodeo on Aug 14, 2021 12:25:20 GMT
What the……
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Post by sullyschoice on Aug 14, 2021 12:28:13 GMT
Will Final now revert to 29th August
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Post by pillar on Aug 14, 2021 12:30:26 GMT
They'll get the extra week and final will be pushed to Sept 11/12
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Post by ataboy on Aug 14, 2021 12:32:03 GMT
They'll get the extra week and final will be pushed to Sept 11/12 I think that will happen too. Can't see GAA giving a walkover. It destroys the integrity of the competition immediately and will always have a question mark associated to the eventual winners.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 14, 2021 12:33:47 GMT
Ah fixtures shouldn't be changed now and I am not so sure there was sinister stuff going on here, and I am delighted they told us as soon as they did.
We are now in an AI final and have as much time as possible to get the heads right.
People tend to forget that Covid doesn't tell anyone anything and so it is chaos all round.
My fear was that we would play them and pick up the damm thing and they saved us that.
I also think the GAA was right not to allow more time, one week wouldn't much matter with half the team having it - ah I'm no medic but what with people having it but showing no signs, I'd feel sorry for Tyrone, they will have their days and I hope they recover and have a good run at their club games. In fairness I think the fixtures schedule got off light, I feared mayhem but I suppose people in general worked with the system and we are now in a better place, and with respect, it isn't all about Sam.
Hopefully we will now see it out and with a biteen of luck we will have Smmmy, as PO'6 would say the turkey tastes better when the auld cannister is on the dresser.
PS Ah jazus, forget about this Monaghan crack, are ye nuts, our next game will be the AI final and bring 'em on, be it Mayo or Dublin. Anyway our possibles v probables is perfect, what with competition for places, used be that Kilkenny's possibles were 2nd best team in the country and I'd def say ours are better than any other option right now. Bring in lads who feel they should be in wider panel, they won't inflict injury while being mad to bring fellas back a peg or two just like opponents in AI final, I'd say PK & Co know right what to do. Sure there is 30+ already in training anyway and with only so many Celtic Crosses, sure what are we talking about. What motivation would Farneys have, damage limitation, minimise what they get bate by in a dead rubber game, what with the Donie factor?
BTW and on an entirely separate matter, anyone near Currans need their roof thatched, chimney repaired or maybe farm sheds sprayed- I know a man that will give 'em a good estimate. Also specialists in repairing the cappings of old castles, towers - watch towers, control towers, etc. We will even spray the belly of planes landing - we have a head for heights and no place higher than climbing Hogan, sure 'twould be no harm now that we are a bit out of practice. Any hand gliders for sale? Anyone have a drone to hire, that will lift a wee laddo on a staycation of sigh seeing.
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Post by ciarrai92 on Aug 14, 2021 12:34:27 GMT
A disappointment no doubt about it . Hopefully a few games now played behind closed doors now for the lads .
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Post by gaelicden on Aug 14, 2021 12:35:14 GMT
They'll get the extra week and final will be pushed to Sept 11/12 I think that will happen too. Can't see GAA giving a walkover. It destroys the integrity of the competition immediately and will always have a question mark associated to the eventual winners. And yet at the same time, we could consider this as Tyrone Pulling championship blackmail. Either way, there needs to be punishment dished out. Something that should have been considered pre season could have been emergency panels for events like this.
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Post by Lolly Valance on Aug 14, 2021 12:42:00 GMT
Let them off. I woukd prefer if the GAA just continue on rather than offering a further delay. They had 4 out for the Ulster final which is now 2 weeks ago. How did it escalate so badly?
Also is it not 10 days in the north in terms of isolation? So if everyone got their results back Monday then isolation ends for the players on Thursday. Do they want the extra week for training and tactics is it?
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Post by southward on Aug 14, 2021 12:53:51 GMT
The GAA can't allow themselves to be dictated to / blackmailed in this way. Invite Monaghan back in and ban Tyrone for next year as well.
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Post by ciarrai92 on Aug 14, 2021 12:55:44 GMT
I'd rather the gaa would delay another week or so to insure Tyrone are near 100%
The added game for Dublin / Mayo for the AIF will be more Beneficial for whoever we play in the final .
I see alot of people commenting on allowing Monaghan to take tyrones place (which I doubt the gaa will allow )
But definitely is a worry that the additional game for today's winner will be a more in their favour v Kerry
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Post by ciarrai92 on Aug 14, 2021 12:57:38 GMT
Let them off. I woukd prefer if the GAA just continue on rather than offering a further delay. They had 4 out for the Ulster final which is now 2 weeks ago. How did it escalate so badly? Also is it not 10 days in the north in terms of isolation? So if everyone got their results back Monday then isolation ends for the players on Thursday. Do they want the extra week for training and tactics is it? 10 days isolation but could but when the majority of your starting team are supposed to have contracted covid wouldn't that be unfair then if they weren't 100percent Just my two cents
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Post by ataboy on Aug 14, 2021 12:59:59 GMT
Tyrone should be able to field 20 players from somewhere. I'd prefer to do that rather not than field if I was from Tyrone. F*ck em.
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Post by blacksheep21 on Aug 14, 2021 13:01:22 GMT
I feel conflicted. I think Tyrone have acted disgracefully and are trying to force the gaa’s hand but I have no issue with moving the game another week.
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Post by ataboy on Aug 14, 2021 13:02:32 GMT
GAA should be on the phone to Monaghan straight away with the option to play.
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Post by southward on Aug 14, 2021 13:09:54 GMT
I'd rather the gaa would delay another week or so to insure Tyrone are near 100% The added game for Dublin / Mayo for the AIF will be more Beneficial for whoever we play in the final . I see alot of people commenting on allowing Monaghan to take tyrones place (which I doubt the gaa will allow )But definitely is a worry that the additional game for today's winner will be a more in their favour v Kerry I really don't see why not, they're the natural successors. I'd imagine it's normal in knockout sport, where one team can't or won't continue, that the team they beat are reinstated. Now, whether they would want to play is another matter; players may be tuned out to an extent. Then again, it's not that long since they were in the zone and certainly they've nothing to lose. I say invite them back and f*ck Tyrone.
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Post by homerj on Aug 14, 2021 13:20:49 GMT
this isnt over yet. GAA backed into a corner here, should never have come to this, surely Tyrone should have called an emergency meeting with the GAA yesterday and told them, its this or refixture.
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Post by onlykerry on Aug 14, 2021 13:22:11 GMT
Fado fado there were occasions when a provincial championship was not completed in time and a province nominated a team to take part in the AI SF - on at least one occasion the AI winners subsequently lost their provincial final.
Different times - doubt if Monaghan would be in a position to fulfil the fixture and short of delaying the SF until Tyrone declare themselves ready the GAA have no choice but to proceed from here. Only decision is whether to bring the final to the original date or not.
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Post by augustafield on Aug 14, 2021 13:23:30 GMT
If Tyrone cannot field a team next weekend due to the effects of Covid then it is extremely unlikely that a further extension of another week would make a difference.
The Tyrone statement is clear and there is no veiled reference to any further extension in mind.
At least we know where we stand now and no more doubt as to whether we will be playing next weekend or not. We await confirmation as to when the Final is to be played - original date or the 4th of September ? and in this regard an early clarification from Croke Park would help.
No more distractions now just focus on the job in hand.
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Post by john4 on Aug 14, 2021 13:35:37 GMT
If Mickey Harte was still over that Tyrone team, they wouldn't now be in the middle of the greatest sh*tsh*w the Gaa has ever seen.
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Post by Kingdomson on Aug 14, 2021 13:51:56 GMT
Where was the common sense? Reality just intervened and the extra 6 days was never going be enough with Tyrone left with no option. For the integrity of the competition this game needs to be pushed forward and yeah, I get clubs won't be happy but let's live in the real world.
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