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Post by dc84 on Jun 15, 2021 10:45:49 GMT
Great that it comes around so quick after the league! We are going nicely but need to be wary of Clare and give them the respect they deserve. Few positional and personnel headaches for PK you would assume foley stays at three and that leaves a qu3stion of do Morley and Murphy come back in and if so for whom? The 6 backs played well individually and as a unit against Tyrone tough calls!
Something similar at mf does Moran start? O Connor is a certainty for me with Barry,spillane and Moran in the hunt to get the 2nd spot. Up front nearly picks itself with the 2 cliffords ,o shea and Moynihan having to start.
Below is what i would like to see 1. Fitzgibbon (hasn't done much wrong tbf) 2.Tom sull (get him or white on tubridy and run him !) 3.Foley 4.Morley 5.Murphy 6.Crowley 7.white 8.Barry 9. O'Connor 10.Moynihan 11. O'shea 12. O brien 13.David Clifford 14.geaney 15.paudie Clifford
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Post by piggott on Jun 15, 2021 11:17:52 GMT
Are you being hard on B O B and Mike Breen?
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Post by mike70 on Jun 15, 2021 11:23:51 GMT
Beaglaoi has to start, Paul murphy would be best serving the team from the bench IMO, Barry has not enough done to pass out Spillane or Moran , game time for sure but not as a starter. The forwards, for me Tony Brosnan ahead of s o b , with Clifford to the wing. We would expect to take Clare by more than 7 points you would think, as much as I admire clare and their achievements, Killarney will suit Kerry, but expect a physical game, might be tight for first 30. Our team needs to be picked with Dublin in mind, also ensuring our bench is deployed to maximum impact, granted one game at a time, with one eye on the big day.
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Post by dc84 on Jun 15, 2021 11:26:27 GMT
Are you being hard on B O B and Mike Breen? Its a hard call id be happy enough with either or both, great that there are options !
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Post by givehimaball on Jun 15, 2021 12:03:29 GMT
Clare's results in the league Clare 1-16 (19) Laois 0-12 (12) Kildare 0–13 (13) Clare 1-13 (16) Clare 1-18 (21) Cork 0-22 (22) Clare 2-18 (24) Mayo 2-22 (28) Clare Mayo game on TG4 Clare MayoClare Cork game on TG4 Clare CorkKildare Clare game on TG4 Kildare Clare
Laois v Clare is on GAAGo [The Kildare Clare game is also on GAAGo]
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Jun 15, 2021 12:51:49 GMT
1. Fitzgibbon 2.Tom sull 3.BOB 4.Morley 5.Murphy 6.Crowley 7.white 8.Spillane 9. O'Connor 10.Moynihan 11. O'shea 12. O brien 13.David Clifford 14.geaney 15.paudie Clifford
I think Foley has really grown into the full back role and deserves the start there.
BOB has played well in the league and deserves his spot. Clare play with 2 up top anyway so BOB can roam from the back.
Moran takes too much out of the ball and doesnt have the pace for intercounty midfield anymore. So its one doc and one from Barry or Spillane. I went for Spillane as he has the fitness under his belt. Expect both Moran and Barry to get game time.
After the league I think the forwards pick themselves to be honest.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jun 15, 2021 14:20:15 GMT
"I think Foley has really grown into the full back role and deserves the start there"
But you've omitted him and selected the An Gaeltacht man?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jun 15, 2021 18:49:40 GMT
I'm no expert but discarding Foley after a MOTM performance is crazy, unless of course we have no respect for Clare. In any event he needs to be allowed to develop there to make the sound FB we so badly need for the likes of Con O'Callaghan and he appears to be on track.
I did notice him straying out a lot and he did some good fist stuff in the air - neither of which would be traditional desirables but then again it is a different game today. I suppose lads cover for each other and no harm in Jason exploiting his athleticism if the opportunity arises, once he doesn't get taken on a tour and leave the front door open.
Jason appears to shade BO'B by an inch and 17 Kgs and then the pace.
Competition for places is like never before - looking more like the Dubs with our reserve or armoury - Anyone read PatS article in the Sindo on why he thinks we will beat 'em this year?
I also read that Mannion pulled back from the county team as the commitment was too much, so what is it like for players with less support, and which is probably everyone else really? I suppose we can all be delighted with how good our games are but there is a hefty price to be paid too. I was never as looking forward to a year and it looks like I am not alone, and then we have the hurling - there may well be 20 great games in the coming months, amazing, even Donegal vs Dubs was entertaining though Killarney had 'em both sit back a bit but the football was still mighty.
Has anyone ever seen any team perform like our forwards did, both v Tribes and Red Hands - Dubs will be busy at the video? If we can do that and they still prevail then good luck to them as that is awesome, the interplay, every skill, well bar lazy decisions going for the net when the route was blocked - that's fine when you have blown away the opposition but what if ya get ahead of the Dubs and they pull back? I'd sense laddos were getting a bit over enthusiastic but it is good it happened sooner and while the reality of heroics can be drilled into them.
I said it before, this is the best team we ever had, maybe the best one anyone ever had - time will tell, let's get one in a row and take it from there.
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Post by mossie on Jun 15, 2021 22:08:11 GMT
Are you being hard on B O B and Mike Breen? but who do you drop to play them?
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Post by mossie on Jun 15, 2021 22:09:16 GMT
Beaglaoi has to start, Paul murphy would be best serving the team from the bench IMO, Barry has not enough done to pass out Spillane or Moran , game time for sure but not as a starter. The forwards, for me Tony Brosnan ahead of s o b , with Clifford to the wing. We would expect to take Clare by more than 7 points you would think, as much as I admire clare and their achievements, Killarney will suit Kerry, but expect a physical game, might be tight for first 30. Our team needs to be picked with Dublin in mind, also ensuring our bench is deployed to maximum impact, granted one game at a time, with one eye on the big day. picking a team with Dublin in mind for a match that never happened was part of the reason for the cluster* v Cork last year
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jun 15, 2021 22:37:14 GMT
I think Morley, Foley, O’Sullivan, Breen, Crowley, White is a very well balanced back six. It’s harsh on Murphy and would be a big decision to drop him but that extra size Breen brings could be very beneficial. Either way think it’s choose 6 from the 7 mentioned and really the 5 plus Breen or Murphy. BO’B has done well but he just isn’t in the picture to start for me with the other options we have. Whoever loses out for the starting position plus BO’B and Sherwood are great options on the bench for us.
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Post by The16thMan on Jun 15, 2021 22:44:00 GMT
My team to play vs Clare 1) S.Ryan (If fit, if not Fitzgibbon) 2) B.Begley 3) J.Foley 4) T.O'Sullivan 5) P.Murphy 6) G.Crowley 7) G.White 8) A.Spillane 9) D.O'Connor 10) P.Clifford 11) S.O'Shea 12) D.Moynihan 13) D.Clifford 14) P.Geaney 15) S.O'Brien That in my opinion is up there with as strong as a team as we can put out, D.Moynihan & P.Clifford seem to compliment each other and also the 'shooters' in the forward line and both are well capable of taking a score themselves. D.Moran just simply hasn't the legs for 70+ minutes, he's much better off coming on for the last 15/20 minutes when a game is in the melting pot and needs to be controlled. Morans passing and fielding ability will allow him to do that. Kerry are now in a position where they have serious options in most parts of the field to come on, going on the team I have picked we'd still have Morley,Sherwood,G.O'Sullivan,M.Breen,Moran,Barry,K.Spillane,T.Walsh,Burns & Brosnan to come off the bench which is hugely impressive. Clare will prove a big challenge, as we can see by their near promotion to Div.1 this season, if I were in Peter Keane's position I'd be treating this Clare game like they would a Dublin,Mayo or Donegal..Winning is a habit and so are performances,so it's best we get into these habits early on.
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 16, 2021 9:30:27 GMT
My team to play vs Clare 1) S.Ryan (If fit, if not Fitzgibbon) 2) B.Begley 3) J.Foley 4) T.O'Sullivan 5) P.Murphy 6) G.Crowley 7) G.White 8) A.Spillane 9) D.O'Connor 10) P.Clifford 11) S.O'Shea 12) D.Moynihan 13) D.Clifford 14) P.Geaney 15) S.O'Brien That in my opinion is up there with as strong as a team as we can put out, D.Moynihan & P.Clifford seem to compliment each other and also the 'shooters' in the forward line and both are well capable of taking a score themselves. D.Moran just simply hasn't the legs for 70+ minutes, he's much better off coming on for the last 15/20 minutes when a game is in the melting pot and needs to be controlled. Morans passing and fielding ability will allow him to do that. Kerry are now in a position where they have serious options in most parts of the field to come on, going on the team I have picked we'd still have Morley,Sherwood,G.O'Sullivan,M.Breen,Moran,Barry,K.Spillane,T.Walsh,Burns & Brosnan to come off the bench which is hugely impressive. Clare will prove a big challenge, as we can see by their near promotion to Div.1 this season, if I were in Peter Keane's position I'd be treating this Clare game like they would a Dublin,Mayo or Donegal..Winning is a habit and so are performances,so it's best we get into these habits early on. I would be happy with that starting XV but would find a place for Mike Breen; he can play @ centre back or midfield and given that he probably possesses more physicality than Adrian Spillane I would give him the nod for midfield - he has pace too & a good engine.
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Post by onlykerry on Jun 22, 2021 10:20:41 GMT
How many fans are being allowed attend this game?
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 22, 2021 10:33:57 GMT
How many fans are being allowed attend this game? 200 - Kerry/Clare get 75 passes each with remaining 50 going to Munster council.
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Post by buck02 on Jun 22, 2021 10:57:40 GMT
How many fans are being allowed attend this game? 200 - Kerry/Clare get 75 passes each with remaining 50 going to Munster council. Absolute farce. 300 people allowed into a 40k stadium with 35k of that in the open. And like it or not there will be people packed into pubs + hotels on Saturday evening watching the game on TV.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 22, 2021 12:11:41 GMT
200 - Kerry/Clare get 75 passes each with remaining 50 going to Munster council. Absolute farce. 300 people allowed into a 40k stadium with 35k of that in the open. And like it or not there will be people packed into pubs + hotels on Saturday evening watching the game on TV. 50 to the Munster Council pisses me off more somehow.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 22, 2021 13:02:08 GMT
Absolute farce. 300 people allowed into a 40k stadium with 35k of that in the open. And like it or not there will be people packed into pubs + hotels on Saturday evening watching the game on TV. 50 to the Munster Council pisses me off more somehow. And so it should, They could have asked local elderly people who have suffered awfully over the past year would they like to attend. The GAA missed an opportunity here. On a broader question when numbers are increased how will the ticket distribution work?
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Post by buck02 on Jun 22, 2021 13:57:52 GMT
Wembley is set to host 65,000 for the last 3 games of the Euros in 2 weeks.
Here they are talking about maybe having 25,000 in Croke Park at the end of August.
Ticket distribution will have to be through the clubs - they couldn't put them on general sale I would imagine.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 22, 2021 14:17:24 GMT
Wembley is set to host 65,000 for the last 3 games of the Euros in 2 weeks. Here they are talking about maybe having 25,000 in Croke Park at the end of August. Ticket distribution will have to be through the clubs - they couldn't put them on general sale I would imagine. Do you think season ticket holders from 2020 should be accommodated?
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Post by peanuts on Jun 22, 2021 14:58:05 GMT
Wembley is set to host 65,000 for the last 3 games of the Euros in 2 weeks. Here they are talking about maybe having 25,000 in Croke Park at the end of August. Ticket distribution will have to be through the clubs - they couldn't put them on general sale I would imagine. Do you think season ticket holders from 2020 should be accommodated? Whatever way it's done, there's going to be a lot of unhappy people. Let's hope we're back to full capacity next year with Kerry defending the title.
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Post by dc84 on Jun 22, 2021 15:27:35 GMT
The gaa are obviously being cautious so that they can get 10-20k in for the semis and maybe 35 ish for the finals thats what i think anyway!
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Post by Hicser on Jun 22, 2021 20:35:10 GMT
God is there anything else to talk about? I see the match is on Sky Arena at 19:00, so will be settling in for a nice evening I hope,
Any rumours on team news, seems very quite at the moment,
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Post by dc84 on Jun 23, 2021 7:34:07 GMT
Forward line nearly picks itself really a couple of places in the backs alright does Breen keep hid place? Where does morley and Murphy fit in ? Who partners o connor at mf ? Fair few interesting questions
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 23, 2021 9:15:01 GMT
Forward line nearly picks itself really a couple of places in the backs alright does Breen keep hid place? Where does morley and Murphy fit in ? Who partners o connor at mf ? Fair few interesting questions Murphy @ 5, Breen to midfield with DOC, Morley on the bench.
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Post by cruc8 on Jun 23, 2021 11:01:27 GMT
I think Jack Barry is the best option for midfield as he will be needed for Fenton. Jack is a better defending midfielder than Diarmuid Adrian or David. Diarmuid is the best attacking midfielder so Jack and Diarmuid for me. I would also go with Mike Breen at wing back as hard as it is to leave Paul Murphy out we need the extra height in half backs to defend against long kick outs. Clare will use the the long ball to the big full forward after its success against Mayo.Jason Foley will be tested to his limits and we will know if has the making of a championship full back. Mayo destroyed Clare in the first half and I expect Kerry to do the same with a dry ball in Killarney.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jun 23, 2021 11:20:25 GMT
The differant outfield positions have been debated the last ten days... but an even bigger question remains between the posts. Recent interviews indicate PK has a full panel to choose from... does Fitzgibbon hold his place - I'm a huge fan of the Rathmore man but I have to say the capabilities of Fitzgibbon have really impressed me. He's ball handling, composure and confidence on the ball is impressive. Apart from one or two in his debut game his kickouts have hit their target. I don't think he was to blame for the four conceeded against Dublin but I have been very impressed by him and think he has done more than enough to warrant making his c'ship debut next Saturday vs Clare.
I think the front six pick themselves for me the starting team vs Tyrone has more balance. Morley and Murphy are pound for pound better individual players than O'Beagleoich and Breen but systemically we are a better cohesive defensive unit with the current incumbents- I firmly feel we would be better served with Morley and Murphy off the bench.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jun 23, 2021 11:37:11 GMT
I’d go;
1. Ryan 2. Morley 3. Foley 4. O’Sullivan 5. Breen 6. Crowley 7. White 8. O’Connor 9. Barry 10. Moynihan 11. O’Shea 12. O’Brien 13. Geaney 14. Clifford 15. Clifford
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Post by jackiel on Jun 23, 2021 13:09:23 GMT
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Post by peanuts on Jun 23, 2021 13:13:09 GMT
I’d go; 1. Ryan 2. Morley 3. Foley 4. O’Sullivan 5. Breen 6. Crowley 7. White 8. O’Connor 9. Barry 10. Moynihan 11. O’Shea 12. O’Brien 13. Geaney 14. Clifford 15. Clifford I'd be happy with that team.
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