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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Jul 15, 2022 13:26:43 GMT
Have tickets been on general sale like this any other year? a few of the Tipp v Kilkenny ones did as I got a Hill ticket on ticketmaster a few years back. You need any combination of any team that are not Kilkenny/Limerick/Tipperary it seems. Maybe I'm just being overly harsh on Limerick here, we'll see the amount of colour on Sunday. |
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Jul 15, 2022 13:29:05 GMT
Liam Cahill has stepped down as Waterford manager. Colm Bonner can stop wondering why he was relieved of his duties as Tipp manager yesterday. They could have left it longer between both actions. Huge loss for Waterford but I heard he'd lost the dressing room during the Round Robin this year. If no vision by Waterford, McGrath will be back but hopefully they'll go for Mattie Kenny. |
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Post by john4 on Jul 15, 2022 13:36:13 GMT
Liam Cahill has stepped down as Waterford manager. Colm Bonner can stop wondering why he was relieved of his duties as Tipp manager yesterday. They could have left it longer between both actions. Huge loss for Waterford but I heard he'd lost the dressing room during the Round Robin this year. If no vision by Waterford, McGrath will be back but hopefully they'll go for Mattie Kenny. Would Stephen Molumphy be considered |
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Jul 15, 2022 13:43:16 GMT
They could have left it longer between both actions. Huge loss for Waterford but I heard he'd lost the dressing room during the Round Robin this year. If no vision by Waterford, McGrath will be back but hopefully they'll go for Mattie Kenny. Would Stephen Molumphy be considered Didn't think of him, probably because I subconsciously want him to stay here and build on for another year. He could get a shot but it depends on how Waterford CB treat McDonagh experience or do they prefer one of the current club managers. He had a good year in fairness to him and it would be foolish to not be at least considered. |
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Post by eternalhope on Jul 15, 2022 15:33:26 GMT
Seeing the hurling final go on (limited) general sale, would there be any chance of that happening for the football?
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Post by tpo on Jul 15, 2022 18:17:33 GMT
No
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Post by hurlingman on Jul 16, 2022 9:39:06 GMT
Liam Cahill has stepped down as Waterford manager. Colm Bonner can stop wondering why he was relieved of his duties as Tipp manager yesterday. They could have left it longer between both actions. Huge loss for Waterford but I heard he'd lost the dressing room during the Round Robin this year. If no vision by Waterford, McGrath will be back but hopefully they'll go for Mattie Kenny. Surely Ursula Jacob Is the only candidate for the job. As I quote “I know as much if not more than Liam Sheedy or anyone else on the Sunday Game” |
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Jul 16, 2022 19:10:32 GMT
They could have left it longer between both actions. Huge loss for Waterford but I heard he'd lost the dressing room during the Round Robin this year. If no vision by Waterford, McGrath will be back but hopefully they'll go for Mattie Kenny. Surely Ursula Jacob Is the only candidate for the job. As I quote “I know as much if not more than Liam Sheedy or anyone else on the Sunday Game” I could say that too, it doesn't mean I'm right. |
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Post by gaelicden on Jul 17, 2022 16:18:37 GMT
Is this Kilkenny's longest famine now? It'll now be at least 8 years without Liam now. The longest gap I've seen for them so far was 7 years.
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Post by veteran on Jul 17, 2022 16:21:51 GMT
Limerick deserved it . They are wonderful champions . Now, there were times when Kilkenny looked dead and buried, However, their collective hurling memory ensured Limerick had to play out of their skins to win. They did that and that is why they are champions once more. To Limerick the glory. To Kilkenny the commiserations. To both, thanks for the spectacle.
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Post by southward on Jul 17, 2022 16:32:02 GMT
God, that was enjoyable. Skill levels have gone into orbit at this stage.
Limerick won despite their inside forward line tanking. Hegarty was unbelievable today, like there was five of him. Hayes a monster too.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 17, 2022 16:43:16 GMT
God, that was enjoyable. Skill levels have gone into orbit at this stage. Limerick won despite their inside forward line tanking. Hegarty was unbelievable today, like there was five of him. Hayes a monster too. If there was a better final i can't recall it. The sheer honesty of KK fighting for that fabled jersey. The sheer majesty of this Limerick side. The Limerick subs got them over the line. Hegarty operating on another level. |
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Post by hurlingman on Jul 18, 2022 11:22:25 GMT
Is this Kilkenny's longest famine now? It'll now be at least 8 years without Liam now. The longest gap I've seen for them so far was 7 years. Went from 1923 to 32 and 1947 to 57 before. But in modern times it's the longest. |
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Post by kingdomfan1991 on Jul 18, 2022 13:50:56 GMT
That showing from Hegarty yesterday has to be one of the most amazing performances ever seen in an All Ireland Final. The quality of each score improved with each strike of the ball. Effortless for him. For a man of his stature, the touch and skills he possess are remarkable.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 18, 2022 14:22:22 GMT
MON, 18 JUL, 2022 - 07:15
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Limerick cement their greatness in one of the greatest finals
When Richie Hogan levelled the match in the 63rd minute with a brilliant point, Limerick suddenly found themselves in a position this team had never been in before during normal time of their three previous All-Ireland finals - under pressure as the clock entered the red zone in normal time, and with the opposition having built up what looked like an irresistible level of momentum.
Limerick never panicked. They won the puckout and Kyle Hayes pushed Limerick back in front again. Kilkenny came up the field and had half a goal chance but TJ Reid’s pass across the goal never found its intended target and the ball was turned over, which ended in a Cathal O’Neill point. Adrian Mullen had a chance to reduce the deficit to one but his shot dropped short, Seán Finn held off his man to set up the counter-attack, which resulted in a Conor Boylan point.
After another Mullen wide, Hayes won the subsequent puckout and was fouled for a free. For the first time all year, Limerick had hit 31 scores. “LIMERICK. LIMERICK. LIMERICK’ boomed around the stadium. Gearóid Hegarty then pushed the margin out to five for Limerick’s final score. The game was still alive. Limerick still had to see it out but that devastating late scoring burst let Kilkenny – and everyone else – know that this hurling terrain is now emphatically ruled and dominated by Limerick.
Just before half-time, Nickie Quaid spent more time than normal over a puckout. Limerick were trying to engineer a clear pocket of space across their half-forward line. Paddy Deegan was only looking at Gearóid Hegarty as he tried to get separation, but when he couldn’t get it, he drifted across the line and Quaid hit the space, anticipating Hegarty to get there. The ball was dropping by the time Hegarty turned and looked up but he just got his hurley up and knocked it back to Seamus Flanagan, who picked it up and drove it over the bar. From just six possessions in that half, Hegarty had scored 1-3 from six shots. Three of those possessions were secured from puckouts while he also had that late assist.
Hegarty picked up where he left off just after half-time. He won the first puckout and set up another score before landing another point. Hegarty dropped back the field to become even more creative from deeper, and to continue to maintain an iron grip on the match. From 22 plays, Hegarty scored 1-5 from ten shots while he had four assists and was fouled for a converted free. As well as making a raft of tackles, Hegarty won an incredible nine puckouts. Kilkenny made a huge miscalculation in not man-marking him, as Clare and Galway did, but Hegarty would have been hard to handle when his form was so boiling hot. It was also another reminder of how Hegarty has saved his best display of the season for the All-Ireland final over the last three seasons. In those three games, Hegarty has hit an incredible 3-14 from play.
In the first play of the game, Darragh O’Donovan hit in a long ball to Aaron Gillane but his touch was coarse and the ball was turned over, which resulted in a Padraig Walsh wide. In that first half, Limerick hit in nine balls into that full-forward line and won just four, which resulted in two points. Hegarty’s goal did come off a long Quaid free but Limerick never got that same return from that long ball into Gillane and Seamus Flanagan as in previous games.
Their pattern recognition and how Limerick build the play through their platform before delivering that long ball into Gillane and Flanagan either side of the D is normally defined by crossfield deliveries. Yet most of those balls yesterday were straight-line balls to a straight runner, which makes it easier for the defender to defend. In total, Limerick only won seven of the 20 long balls played into their full-forward line, and mined just 0-3 off that possession, numbers way down than their normal return.
In their last two games, Gillane and Flanagan had been Limerick’s go-to guys, especially when Hegarty and Morrissey had been man-marked to decent effect. Against Galway, Hegarty and Morrissey were taken off after having a combined 25 possessions and five shots, which amounted to just two points and four assists.
Yesterday though, Morrissey and Hegarty had a combined 32 possessions, and 15 shots, which amounted to a colossal 1-9, along with a combined six assists. Kyle Hayes also stepped up big-time with four points from four shots, as well as being fouled for a free. As well as scoring 1-13 from play, all three won a colossal 17 puckouts.
The Kilkenny full-back line did well. But the Kilkenny half-back line was blown away by the Limerick half-forward line.
Limerick’s shooting numbers come up at the right time
When Limerick were blowing away teams last year, the firmest proof of their dominance was reflected in the numbers – they were averaging 12 more shots than the opposition. Yet those numbers had come way down this year after their opening two games. In Round 1, Limerick had 48 shots, 18 more than Cork. They had more shots than Waterford too but in in their next four games, the opposition had more shots (in normal time). Limerick were compensating for those reduced numbers through their shooting efficiency and the metronomic accuracy of Diarmaid Byrnes.
Byrnes nailed five points from six shots yesterday, (four from placed balls) but Limerick got their shooting numbers back up again, having six more shots (45-39) than Kilkenny. Crucially, their conversion rate was 71%, with that number coming in at 63% from play.
By the 45th minute, Limerick had created 27 chances from play. By the end, they mined 38 from that source. And, like they had all year – apart from the Tipperary game – Limerick’s accuracy was on the money.
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One of the greatest tributes that can be given to Brian Cody’s Kilkenny yesterday is, not just how much they contributed to one of the greatest All-Ireland finals of the modern era, but in how they pushed Limerick so hard and got to within two points of the champions at the end.
Despite being engulfed in the tackle and turned back so often by the ferocity of Limerick’s swarm, Kilkenny only turned over the ball just marginally less than Limerick (29-28). A lot of those turnovers was long ball hit into their full-forward late on – which was eaten up by Limerick – but Kilkenny were scrambling by then.
After getting hammered on their own puckout early on, and conceding 1-4 from that source in the first half, Kilkenny had turned that statistic on its head by the end, mining 1-13 off their own restarts.
They had some costly missed chances late on, especially when they needed to break the momentum of Limerick’s late scoring burst, but Kilkenny’s conversion rate was an impressive 72%.
Once again, TJ Reid’s placed ball striking was immaculate, with nine points scored from nine shots. Reid didn’t score from play but his performance in the first half was out of this world when he effectively kept Kilkenny in the match. As well as being fouled for two converted frees, Reid had five assists in that half. He had an assist too after half-time while he was the chief architect of Mossy Keoghan’s goal.
Since he won his last All-Ireland in 2015 – when he was Hurler-of-the-Year – Reid has done a massive amount of hurling, without adding to his All-Ireland haul. Yet Reid has really cemented his greatness during that period.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 18, 2022 14:28:28 GMT
KK lost it in the first half in not retaining enough possession from their own puckout.
KK were better in that in the second half.
Limerick were with excellent at that all through.
13 of the team that started the 2018 final started yesterday for Limerick. There is another 3 or 4 in them before they grow old together.
KK are bringing lads on every year and thats why they never go away.
Only 3 years ago they were hammered by Tipp in the final. Look at where Tipp are now compared to KK.
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Post by mafi97 on Jul 18, 2022 23:19:59 GMT
I've been trying to establish how many wides both teams had yesterday in the Hurling Final. If somebody could direct me to reliable stats, I would be very grateful.
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Post by Moderator on Jul 18, 2022 23:31:40 GMT
From GAA statsman: 10 wides apiece.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jul 19, 2022 0:01:02 GMT
Gearóid 'Istabraq' Hegarty - that's what you'd call 'mixing it', ah the name is good and may we all have it as good an domhnaigh seo chugainn, an domhain seo chugainn- another Sunday best!
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Post by glengael on Jul 20, 2022 11:03:56 GMT
That was a great great game. Limerick are worthy champions. First non-KK 3 in a row since Cork in the 70's, would it be?
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Post by glengael on Aug 15, 2022 12:29:30 GMT
So Davy Fitz is gone over the border to a Waterford return. You'd wonder how successful a move it will prove to be. Hurling is like the UK premiership with something of a merry-go-round at times.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 16, 2022 7:14:45 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 16, 2022 7:16:12 GMT
Rumour is that Dublin are trying to get Pat Gilroy back in as manager. A total top hurling coach might be brought in then under him.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 22, 2022 12:32:55 GMT
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