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Post by hurlingman on Aug 4, 2021 19:01:50 GMT
Will there be refunds if it doesn't work this time? Or will the CB just pretend it didn't happen like last year? I can't recall any issues with the live stream of the hurling in 2020. Maybe its down to broadband strength. Maybe not with hurling but it was well documented when it came to the football stems early on. When people asked about being refunded the CBs answer was to block anyone who asked for one and pretend like it never happened. |
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Post by mossie on Aug 4, 2021 21:42:15 GMT
Will there be refunds if it doesn't work this time? Or will the CB just pretend it didn't happen like last year? I can't recall any issues with the live stream of the hurling in 2020. Maybe its down to broadband strength. mine was fine too, overall hard to find fault with it |
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Post by mossie on Aug 4, 2021 21:42:55 GMT
Question to Kerry GAA Officer: will the club hurling championship games be shown on "pay per fiver" again this year. The 2020 set up was excellent. Apologies missed this question from a few weeks back! Not streaming the early round games but absolutely will be streaming the knockout stages of the Garvey’s Senior hurling championship! fair play |
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Post by hurlingman on Aug 7, 2021 8:40:52 GMT
Big win for Crotta last night over Crokes. If they can get it together they'll have every chance of going the whole way. It's mad to think they haven't won a title since 1968. In the early part of the 2010s they looked like they could push on but it just never happened for them.
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Post by mossie on Aug 7, 2021 14:59:33 GMT
Big win for Crotta last night over Crokes. If they can get it together they'll have every chance of going the whole way. It's mad to think they haven't won a title since 1968. In the early part of the 2010s they looked like they could push on but it just never happened for them. 1968 is a lifetime ago, they have a few heart breaking narrow county final defeats since In 1979 , Causeway ended a 57 year famine, beating Crotta with a last minute goal. Dick Spring former TD and Tanaiste was outstanding for Crotta at midfield that day and indeed for a few years around that period, In 1979 he played for Ireland in rugby in the then 5 nations, and later in the year played in the Kerry County Senior hurling final. A rare feat! I have heard Dick state that not winning the senior hurling championship medal is a big sporting regret. He seemed to love hurling and Crotta, his mother's people the Laide's won a bag of championship medals in the 1940s and 1950s There was a drawn county final and narrow defeat in a replay to Lixnaw in 1999 where Paul Galvin was man of the match for Lixnaw. There were numerous other narrow final defeats as well. It is almost like bad luck came upon them after the 1968 county final win over Austin Stacks. Many Stacks people to this day and others are adamant that the late Stacks 65 yard free that was waved wide was a point and should have been flagged as the equalising score To be honest , the team of the early 2010s did reach one final but had nowhere near the talent and underage pedigree of the present bunch. Crotta seem to have got their act together underage big time the last 10 to 15 years, get a good few players up around Senans football territory and ditto Senans get footballers from Kilflynn \Crotta hurling territory |
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Post by hurlingman on Aug 10, 2021 8:25:00 GMT
Big win for Crotta last night over Crokes. If they can get it together they'll have every chance of going the whole way. It's mad to think they haven't won a title since 1968. In the early part of the 2010s they looked like they could push on but it just never happened for them. 1968 is a lifetime ago, they have a few heart breaking narrow county final defeats since In 1979 , Causeway ended a 57 year famine, beating Crotta with a last minute goal. Dick Spring former TD and Tanaiste was outstanding for Crotta at midfield that day and indeed for a few years around that period, In 1979 he played for Ireland in rugby in the then 5 nations, and later in the year played in the Kerry County Senior hurling final. A rare feat! I have heard Dick state that not winning the senior hurling championship medal is a big sporting regret. He seemed to love hurling and Crotta, his mother's people the Laide's won a bag of championship medals in the 1940s and 1950s There was a drawn county final and narrow defeat in a replay to Lixnaw in 1999 where Paul Galvin was man of the match for Lixnaw. There were numerous other narrow final defeats as well. It is almost like bad luck came upon them after the 1968 county final win over Austin Stacks. Many Stacks people to this day and others are adamant that the late Stacks 65 yard free that was waved wide was a point and should have been flagged as the equalising score To be honest , the team of the early 2010s did reach one final but had nowhere near the talent and underage pedigree of the present bunch. Crotta seem to have got their act together underage big time the last 10 to 15 years, get a good few players up around Senans football territory and ditto Senans get footballers from Kilflynn \Crotta hurling territory They did also win the County League Div 1 title i think it was 2010 but the wheels came off it quite fast. I think it was 2013 they didnlt even play in the senior championship. They're a lot like Causeway were a few years ago. Every year it seemed like they could make an impact but it just didn't happen for one reason or another for them. |
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Post by boroman68 on Aug 10, 2021 20:32:50 GMT
From what I was told the recession at the time screwed them. I think from the 2011 panel that reached the Co.Final, 12 of that panel was gone the following year to immigration. The Nolans and Sean Weir are the only 3 still playing from that 2011 panel supposedly. Also there is supposed to be a big gap in age between them and the rest of the panel. They would be around their 30s now and the rest consist of that group that have won the u21 and minors. I presume around 23 and under.
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Post by hurlingman on Aug 17, 2021 8:58:13 GMT
The knockout stages are know now.
Kilmoyley and Causeway both qualified directly for the semi-finals. Quarter-final draw, Crotta O'Neill's v St Brendan's and Lixnaw v Abbeydorney.
Abbeydorney had a good result with a draw against Crotta and could well spring another surprise against Lixnaw like last year. Crotta you would think should have enough to get over Ardfert.
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Post by Kerry GAA Officer on Aug 20, 2021 19:36:35 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 20, 2021 21:49:23 GMT
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Post by mossie on Aug 21, 2021 9:28:32 GMT
The knockout stages are know now. Kilmoyley and Causeway both qualified directly for the semi-finals. Quarter-final draw, Crotta O'Neill's v St Brendan's and Lixnaw v Abbeydorney. Abbeydorney had a good result with a draw against Crotta and could well spring another surprise against Lixnaw like last year. Crotta you would think should have enough to get over Ardfert. hard matches to call Abbeydorney beating Lixnaw couldnt be called a surprise anymore after last year. Slight fancy for Crotta and Abbeydorney to advance |
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 21, 2021 14:28:38 GMT
Ardfert 1.16
Crotta 0.18
This was a really great contest.
Crotta took the lead for the first time with their last score.
The imperious Cian Hussey got the last two points to win it for Ardfert.
Cian got 1.13.
Crotta fought like demented men in the second half inspired by Trant wearing 7 and were unlucky to lose it.
Ardfert will struggle the day Cian Hussey is held though.
Unbelievable vulue for a fiver. Thanks to all involved.
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Post by Kerry GAA Officer on Aug 21, 2021 22:59:45 GMT
Ardfert 1.16 Crotta 0.18 This was a really great contest. Crotta took the lead for the first time with their last score. The imperious Cian Hussey got the last two points to win it for Ardfert. Cian got 1.13. Crotta fought like demented men in the second half inspired by Trant wearing 7 and were unlucky to lose it. Ardfert will struggle the day Cian Hussey is held though. Unbelievable vulue for a fiver. Thanks to all involved. Thanks Mickmack 👍🏻 |
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Post by hurlingman on Aug 24, 2021 15:41:23 GMT
Crotta will be disappointed to have not won it i think. Ardfert look like thye would spring another surprise in the semi-finals. Much like Crotta they're a club who have underachieved in a big way. I know football took a foothold but to have won won one county championship in 30 years and only been in the final a handfull of times since for the underage success they've had is not good.
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Post by buck02 on Aug 24, 2021 16:11:18 GMT
Will the Hurling be finished before the start of the football club championship?
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Post by mossie on Aug 24, 2021 21:41:55 GMT
Crotta will be disappointed to have not won it i think. Ardfert look like thye would spring another surprise in the semi-finals. Much like Crotta they're a club who have underachieved in a big way. I know football took a foothold but to have won won one county championship in 30 years and only been in the final a handfull of times since for the underage success they've had is not good. I fancied Crotta but St Brendans(Ardfert) are a determined bunch in both codes. Gathering momentum now with wins over Ballyduff and Crotta and will make serious semi final opponents for anyone that is left It was the Cian Hussey show the last day but if Kevin Hannifan and Nathan O'Driscoll get back from injury , St Brendans wont be as dependent on him in attack Crotta will be disappointed that they are not advancing to the semi final stages after all the minor and under 20 success and at this stage it must be a source of concern to them Kilmoyley and Causeway remain favourites but St Brendans and Lixnaw will keep improving so anything is possible |
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Post by hurlingman on Aug 26, 2021 7:05:45 GMT
Crotta will be disappointed to have not won it i think. Ardfert look like thye would spring another surprise in the semi-finals. Much like Crotta they're a club who have underachieved in a big way. I know football took a foothold but to have won won one county championship in 30 years and only been in the final a handfull of times since for the underage success they've had is not good. I fancied Crotta but St Brendans(Ardfert) are a determined bunch in both codes. Gathering momentum now with wins over Ballyduff and Crotta and will make serious semi final opponents for anyone that is left It was the Cian Hussey show the last day but if Kevin Hannifan and Nathan O'Driscoll get back from injury , St Brendans wont be as dependent on him in attack Crotta will be disappointed that they are not advancing to the semi final stages after all the minor and under 20 success and at this stage it must be a source of concern to them Kilmoyley and Causeway remain favourites but St Brendans and Lixnaw will keep improving so anything is possible Abbeydorney would have been disappointed as well. Another club who had been struggling for the last while but the last two years they're been doing the right way. Got the the semi-final last and to this years county league final. They weren't helped by injuries however once the championship came arround. |
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Post by mossie on Aug 29, 2021 22:24:03 GMT
Crotta 1968 and Abbeydornery 1974 really are some famines for both
Neither are progressing as one would have expected at senior on the back of some good underage teams
Abbeydorney had serious injury woes this year but still had enough in their ranks to do better
Crotta I fancied this year but not kicking on at all
I expect good semi finals next weekend, Kilmoyley and Causeway be fancied but I expect a surprise in one match or the other!
Tralee Parnells and Kilgarvan are motoring well in the intermediate, plenty of talent in both clubs
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Post by hurlingman on Aug 30, 2021 15:49:53 GMT
Crotta 1968 and Abbeydornery 1974 really are some famines for both Neither are progressing as one would have expected at senior on the back of some good underage teams Abbeydorney had serious injury woes this year but still had enough in their ranks to do better Crotta I fancied this year but not kicking on at all I expect good semi finals next weekend, Kilmoyley and Causeway be fancied but I expect a surprise in one match or the other! Tralee Parnells and Kilgarvan are motoring well in the intermediate, plenty of talent in both clubs If you look into it a bit more Abbeydorney have actaully only one championship almost 110 years! They've only been in the final once since then as well. Crotta have at least been in a few finals since they last won. When you consider in that time there's never been more than maybe 12 teams in the championship you'd think on average they'd have at least won one. Crotta did lose two finals in a row by a point in 1998-99 to be fair to them. Parnells in only 3 season have been a breath of fresh air to the county. They're also keen to push on also by looking to play at as high a level as they can. In the end that's what killed off Stacks imo |
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 4, 2021 18:29:43 GMT
Full time;
Kilmoyley 17 points
Lixnaw 16 points.
Shane Conway put a line ball over the bar to level the game at 16 each but after a stoppage for an injury Kilmoyley got the winner.
Lixnaw on the wrong side of a few decisions by the ref at the end.
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Post by mossie on Sept 4, 2021 23:13:34 GMT
Great battle in Austin Stack Park Mickmack
Lixnaw surely deserved a draw?? But Kilmoyley got over the line
A great context I thought, flashes of great skill from Conway, Matthew Flaherty Dingle\Kilmoyley did stick tight to him though
It is a match that will serve Kilmoyley well going into the final, that contest will bring them on
Kilmoyley have some record on back to back titles. You have to go back to 1948 for the last time they failed to do back to back
on 6 occasions since they have put together at least 2 in a row every time they won a championship
It remains to be seen if they can do it again, Causeway or St Brendans will be looking to put a halt to that tradition!!
Causeway favourites but could be as close as a game as Kilmoyley v Lixnaw
If Causeway tie up Cian Hussey, St Brendans could struggle for scores
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Post by mossie on Sept 4, 2021 23:21:27 GMT
Crotta 1968 and Abbeydornery 1974 really are some famines for both Neither are progressing as one would have expected at senior on the back of some good underage teams Abbeydorney had serious injury woes this year but still had enough in their ranks to do better Crotta I fancied this year but not kicking on at all I expect good semi finals next weekend, Kilmoyley and Causeway be fancied but I expect a surprise in one match or the other! Tralee Parnells and Kilgarvan are motoring well in the intermediate, plenty of talent in both clubs If you look into it a bit more Abbeydorney have actaully only one championship almost 110 years! They've only been in the final once since then as well. Crotta have at least been in a few finals since they last won. When you consider in that time there's never been more than maybe 12 teams in the championship you'd think on average they'd have at least won one. Crotta did lose two finals in a row by a point in 1998-99 to be fair to them. Parnells in only 3 season have been a breath of fresh air to the county. They're also keen to push on also by looking to play at as high a level as they can. In the end that's what killed off Stacks imo Ah here now Stacks couldnt play at a higher level, after having a competitive senior team in the early to mid 1990s, they declined and shipped some terrible hidings at senior in the early 2000s. They had a superb minor winning championship team in 1986 that gave them a core of players to build a senior team on but the complete neglect of under age to where there was virtually no juvenile at all meant they went on an inevitable slide I fancy Kilgarvan for the intermediate this year , Parnells will have their eye on it though |
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 5, 2021 13:47:54 GMT
Causeway had a goal after 13 seconds and a second goal a minute later. Then a point.
So game over?
Not quite.
Ardfert were brilliant for the next 30 minutes and levelled it.
But then Causeway were reduced to 14 men due to a red card and this energised Causeway and they scored 4 points in a row.
2.08 to 10 points at half time.
Ardfert need to put the extra man on the Causeway sweeper for the second half. If they do they have a good chance.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 5, 2021 14:27:49 GMT
1.19 to Ardfert
2.13 to Causeway
Fionnan Mackessy outstanding.
Two very good semi finals.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 5, 2021 18:44:06 GMT
County SHC: Mackessy masterclass sees St Brendans overcome seven-point deficit
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September 05 2021 04:17 PM
St Brendans, inspired by a Fionán Mackessy masterclass, fashioned a remarkable recovery drive to come from seven points down in the first half to seal their place in the Garvey’s County Senior Hurling Championship Final with Kilmoyley later this month.
2019 champions Causeway had got off to the best possible start in this semi-final with a pair of goals inside the opening sixty seconds of the game. The first goal coming courtesy of Billy Lyons and the second via from Gavin Dooley – a late addition to the side having been considered an injury doubt up to throw-in.
Causeway were soon seven points clear – 2-1 to 0-0 – thanks to a Dan Goggin point and looked well in control of matters in Austin Stack Park. St Brendans, however, refused to be cowed by the challenge facing them and soon thundered into the game with four points on the spin. Indeed, by the first water break the Ardfert men were back in the hunt just about at five points down, 2-3 to 0-4.
The Saints kept that momentum with them into the second quarter and were back level 25 minutes in. A red card for Causeway’s Jason Leahy seemed to have turned the game St Brendans way, but instead the maroon and white rallied to half-time with four points in succession for a 2-8 to 0-10 lead.
With St Brendans looking somewhat wasteful in the third quarter the status quo remained largely in tact, despite Causeway being down a man.
Causeway, following a point by Billy Lyons, were still three points in front at the second water break, 2-12 to 0-15, and it wasn’t really until a goal by man-of-the-match Mackessy, taking an assist from the ever-green John Egan, fifty minutes in that it looked like the momentum had really switched with Brendans in front for the first time
Even then Causeway weren’t going away. It took until injury time for St Brendans to finally shake them off, with a pair of points by Eric Leen and Mackessy seeing them run out 1-19 to 2-13 winners.
The final is due to take place on Sunday, September 19.
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Post by mossie on Sept 5, 2021 22:01:23 GMT
Mackessy some stalwart for St Brendans, and another really enjoyable semi final
St Brendans seem to be timing their run nicely and if the few lads carrying injuries can be in better fettle in a fortnight, they could dethrone the champions
St Brendans are in the minor final as well with a very young minor team, also won the under 15 feile so hurling is alive and well in Ardfert
A parish derby final so between Kilmoyley and St Brendans, remarkable parish in many ways, 2 senior hurling clubs and a strong football club too
expect a belter of a final along the lines of last year's decider
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 6, 2021 7:37:58 GMT
Having the intermediate club football championship game next weekend is the worst possible preparation for Ardfert. Such is life for players playing both codes.
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Post by mossie on Sept 6, 2021 22:51:44 GMT
Having the intermediate club football championship game next weekend is the worst possible preparation for Ardfert. Such is life for players playing both codes. Dual clubs and dual players are some men This really does impact St Brendans preparation ditto Ardfert in the football. Any scope for a postponment in the football? I doubt it Kilmoyley not effected by football bar one player. Matthew Flaherty played senior hurling last saturday for Kilmoyley and senior football for Dingle on sunday |
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 7, 2021 21:51:53 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 17, 2021 14:55:38 GMT
Ardfert v Kilmoyley on Sunday in the hurling final.
Ardfert have had the assistance of Michael Dempsey this year and its very evident.
Kilmoyley will be favourites to retain it but there is something in the resiliance and resolve by Ardfert this year that will take stopping.
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By Siun Lennon - 17th August 2019
On Sunday in Croke Park Brian Cody will attempt to guide the Kilkenny hurlers to All Ireland glory for the 12th time in his incredible spell as manager.
Alongside him, as he has been for most of those successes, will be his trusted side-kick Michael Dempsey, the former Laois footballer and manager who has been a key cog in the Kilkenny hurling wheel for the last decade and a half.
Dempsey’s sporting story is an incredible one – coming as he did from a football background to being the right-hand man of the greatest hurling manager of all time and a hugely respected figure in the hurling world in his own right.
While the Dempsey name is synonomous with Laois and St Joseph’s football, there is good hurling blood in the too as his mother was a Spain from Offaly.
His five uncles hurled for Offaly with one of them, Matt, dedicated himself to a successful career in refereeing – overseeing the All-Ireland hurling finals in 1958 and 1972.
Mick did play hurling for Milltown, an old amalgamated side which plucked players from prominently football clubs on the Laois-Kildare border.
However the Ballyadams man preferred, and excelled, in the big ball.
First came the club championships, where he won seven senior club championship medals in the ’70s, ’80’s and ’90s with St Joseph’s. Dempsey himself captained the side to lift the Jack Delaney Cup in 1983.
Mick’s prominence on the field lead to him donning the blue and white of Laois for a long number of years – something that his brothers Sean, Martin and PJ also did.
The longest serving intercounty selector in the GAA also had a remarkably long interounty playing career – lining out for Laois for almost 20 years.
This tenure saw him be part of the 1986 National Football League winning team. But Dempsey had plenty left to give the GAA, and turned his head to coaching.
As a manager he coached Laois to the Leinster U-21 Football Championship title in 1994, while still playing senior football himself.
From there he took over the reins as Laois senior manager in 1997 and 1998. However when neighbours Kildare knocked Laois out in the Leinster quarter-final of 1998, Dempsey reverted back to coaching club teams.
This move would turn out to be an extremely fruitful one – as Dempsey’s impeccable record shows.
After the turn of the millennium he managed St Joseph’s to a county title in 2000. The year 2000 also saw him manage Carlow club O’Hanrahan’s to an historic Leinster title.
From Carlow to Kilkenny he was drawn into the world of hurling.
After managing Muckalee and St Martin’s, the latter winning an intermediate county title, he became a selector on the Kilkenny U-21 team.
Alongside Martin Fogarty, Dempsey helped Kilkenny to win two All-Ireland titles in 2003 and 2004 with players like Tommy Walsh, Jackie Tyrell and Cha Fitzpatrick involved.
His prowess in the selector’s role did not go unnoticed, and he was asked to go alongside Kilkenny senior hurling manager Brian Cody in 2005.
From there, the story of Kilkenny hurling through the 2000s has gone down in living history – the most successful men’s senior county team ever in the game of hurling.
Mick has since proved to be an invaluable piece of puzzle of the success that has been Kilkenny hurling in the modern era.
Former GAA president and Kilkenny hurler Nickey Brennan puts Mick’s success as a selector down to the type of person he is.
“There’s a myth that just because someone is involved in one sport (in Mick’s case, football), that they can’t cross over to another sport. But the truth is that Mick is logical, skillful in dealing with people and, in many ways, a pioneer,” states Brennan.
“If you were part of that winning U-21 setup in ’03 and ’04, you were doing something right, and Mick has since proved that in spades.
“In terms of being a selector and physical preparation, Mick was one of the pioneers of today’s physical preparation needed in GAA. On top of that, he’s just a really good guy,” said the former President of the GAA.
To get ahead of the curve, Dempsey immersed himself in a world of education about different high-performing teams, and what to do to give his side that extra one percent advantage.
He studied different squads, such as the Leinster rugby team. He assessed individual players and their merits, and plays a key role in administering the run of play for Kilkenny games.
Education still clearly plays a crucial role in Mick’s life, as he heads the group reviewing the GAA youth/player development pathway at inter-county level, while also performing as the IT Carlow GAA programme director.
A man who knows just what the Kilkenny selector is about is the man who won the renowned four-in-a row with Cody and Dempsey at the helm: current Laois hurling manager Eddie Brennan.
“Mick is a very low-key individual,” said Brennan. “He’s certainly not a man that would be trying to hog the spotlight by any means!
“He was always extremely well-prepared, not just in terms of physical preparation.
“He rarely spoke to the group in the dressing room, if Mick spoke, you listened. He always brought something great,” said the Graigue-Ballycallan native.
Mick’s low-key nature and logical approach makes him a perfect fit alongside Cody; no nonsense, no fuss. You are not needed unless you are contributing positively.
Kilkenny man and esteemed sportswriter, journalist, author and hurling connoisseur Enda McEvoy reckons that this is a large part of the reason Dempsey is the longest-serving selector on any senior intercounty team.
“All of the great hurlers have come and gone off backroom teams, and Cody does have high standards – he likes to re-arrange the furniture.
“But Mick doesn’t make their [Kilkenny’s] success about him. He’s Cody’s kind of guy,” said McEvoy.
McEvoy states that Dempsey helped to ‘revolutionise’ the way Kilkenny played.
“In 2005, they lost out in the All-Ireland semi-final to Galway, 5-18 to 4-18. One man was left alone in defence when Galway went through for goal, and from that day on, that was never allowed to happen again.
“They learnt a lot form that day, and in the years that followed, no-one could move the Kilkenny defence around any more. It was Dempsey pulling those strings,” said McEvoy.
The Irish Examiner writer added: “He invested and re-invested in those Kilkenny teams, always learning and improving. He has helped Brian Cody think differently.”
McEvoy echoes both Nickey Brennan and Eddie Brennan’s words that despite Dempsey’s success, education, and clear prowess when it comes to sport – the Ballyadams man remains incredibly humble about it all.
“He certainly is very low-key. He doesn’t make it about him.
“When you speak to him, he loves to hear what you think. He loves to hear other people’s opinions about things. Dempsey is always trying to learn,” said McEvoy.
From roots in St Joseph’s GAA, to Laois football, and onto Kilkenny senior hurling – Mick’s life has done a wonderful 360 degrees in terms of where he started.
But he carries the same workrate, integrity and heart as when he first started – picking up the neccessary skill and belief needed to get to where he is today.
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