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Post by mossie on Sept 12, 2020 23:27:17 GMT
Be a great boost for the game with Crokes or Parnells winning the Intermediate this year. Could be the kick on that's needed in both Tralee and Killarney and to keep lads interested in playing. On a side note Gearoid O’Doherty scoring 18 points, granted 17 from frees, must be a record in either code in Kerry. some very good young players in the Parnells and Crokes teams and it is great to see young players coming through from the big towns. It is a novel Tralee v Killarney hurling final, and a boost to those that work so hard to keep the game going there. I think Crokes will shade it, Mike Milner at centre back is experienced and a serious operator at intermediate level, the Lenihans and young Tom Doyle upfront carry a scoring threat. Parnells have their own scoring threats in Brian Lonergan and Gearoid O'Doherty. Parnells have a strong Ballymacelligot presence in their team actually, Ballymac a hurling stronghold, Tomas Connor a serious hurler from Ballymac too playing with Crotta and Kerry With Matthew Flaherty from Dingle playing in the senior final with Kilmoyley, it shows hurling is gathering wings outside North Kerry |
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Post by southward on Sept 13, 2020 15:09:29 GMT
Congrats to Ballyduff on winning the minor hurling yesterday. Great to see all the flags around North Kerry this week, ahead of both hurling finals.
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Post by mossie on Sept 13, 2020 19:01:36 GMT
Congrats to Ballyduff on winning the minor hurling yesterday. Great to see all the flags around North Kerry this week, ahead of both hurling finals. Ballyduff hadnt actually won a minor since 2003, unlucky to lose the final last year and coming with a good bunch of players off this team. Great to see John Hennessy involved with this team passing on his wisdom and craft Ditto Ballyheigue with Brendan O'Sullivan coaching them, what a player he was. Ballyheigue definitely turning a corner after a bad spell - be great to see them strong at senior again, they brought huge crowds and colour to county finals in the 1990s |
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 13, 2020 20:45:15 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 17, 2020 19:30:24 GMT
East Kerry GAA – Coiste Chiarrai Thoir C.L.G
HURLING IN THE EAST KERRY DISTRICT
Well, legend has it that a hurling game between the Fianna and the Tuatha De Danann took place in the countryside between Fossa and Glenflesk over 1000 years ago! Legend aside, however, we have to go back roughly ninety years at least for the first mention of an East Kerry side in the County Hurling Championship at senior level at least. In 1910, a Killarney team defeated holders Tralee Mitchells and went on to defeat Kenmare in the semi final. However, a Kenmare objection stating that Killarney had illegally played players from Kilgarvan was upheld and Killarney was thrown out of the competition. Killarney also took part in 1911 and 1912, and in 1918 a team from Rathmore reached the semi finals.In the following decades Killarney took part in the county championship with varying degrees of success as follows:
1920’s: Killarney took part in 1928 and East Kerry in 1929
1930’s: East Kerry took part in 1930, 31, and 32. Killarney reached the semi final in 1933 while Rathmore took part the following year, receiving a walkover from East Kerry. Killarney represented the area from 1935 to 1940.
1940’s: Teams from the area took part in the early 40’s; however Killarney were back from 1946 to start a 26 year unbroken run in the championship.
1950’s: The fifties heralded a very successful period for hurling in the East Kerry area. Under the guidance of Laois man, Ben Campion, Killarney won 3 Minor County Championships in a row between 1950 and 52 and were beaten by Crotta in the senior final in 1951. Building on that base they went on to contest the Senior championship with a greater degree of success. 5 players played in all 3 finals during Killarney’s unprecendented run of success winning 3 Co. Minor Championship in a row:Liam Brosnan, Paddy O’Shea, Patrick O’Donoghue and Michael Looney of Dr. Crokes together with Legion’s Johnny Culloty.
1960’s: Johnny Culloty brought the first All – Ireland hurling medal to East Kerry when he was on the Kerry team that defeated London in the 1961 All Ireland Junior final.
Success at last – Unlucky to be beaten by two points at the Quarter final stage in 1968, Killarney took the championship by storm in 1969 defeating Causeway, Kenmare, O’Dorney and Austin Stacks (in the final) to take the County Senior Hurling title for the first and only time completing a Championship double with East Kerry Footballers. Killarney were back in the final the following year defeating O’Dorney and Ballyduff (Semi Final) before going under to Kilmoyley in the final with a score of 2-12 to 4-4.
Killarney – 1969 County Champions. The team that defeated Austin stacks by 2-6 to 2-5 were as follows:
Mikey Culloty,
Eamonn Fitzpatrick, Bill Moloney, Mickey Culloty,
Ultan Breen, Dan Kelleher, Denis Russell,
Tadhgie Fleming, Derry Crowley,
Brendan Lynch, Tom Prendergast, Johnny Culloty,
Pat Lynch, Mick Spillane, Con O’Meara (captain).
Successive defeats by Ballyduff in 1971 and 72, followed by walkovers to the same opposition in 1973 and to Austin stacks in 1974 heralded the demise of hurling in the Division.
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Post by mossie on Sept 19, 2020 0:40:18 GMT
East Kerry such a footballing hotbed but has a hurling tradition surviving beneath the surface
Johnny Culloty was a prince of a hurler as well as a prince of a footballer and is well quoted as saying he preferred the hurling. heard him interviewed a few times saying he got more enjoyement out of it, more relaxed and less pressure than playing football with kerry he said! Johnny was playing hurling at junior level till he was about 50!
Seanie Shea Dr Crokes was some tough bit of stuff for the kerry hurlers in the late 1980s, early 1990s, so slight, but hardy as nails and good stick work. He was a much better hurler than footballer. At the time , kerry were playing in the munster senior hurling championship and he was mixing it with the best of forwards. his brother Pat was good too but between basketball and football, he didnt play much
This Crokes team actually has some lovely young hurlers - Mike and Jack Lenihan, Shane Lyne, Tom Doyle, Aaron Murphy, Mike Horgan and a few others, I think they will win Sunday. Be a boost to those pushing on hurling in the club
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 19, 2020 11:05:06 GMT
Mossie, is Brian Lonergan of Parnells the same lad that was in goals for Kerry u21 in recent years?
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Sept 19, 2020 19:02:41 GMT
Watching the Limerick county final and the standard is quite unbelievable. Considering this is a club match you'd be forgiven for thinking it is inter county hurling.
It bodes well for the race for Liam this year.
Secretly hoping for a Limerick and Kerry double.
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Post by mossie on Sept 19, 2020 22:09:03 GMT
Mossie, is Brian Lonergan of Parnells the same lad that was in goals for Kerry u21 in recent years? the same player Mickmack, key player for Parnells |
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Post by veteran on Sept 20, 2020 16:16:37 GMT
I made my maiden voyage in the land of streaming today. Total success. Perfect picture .
Hugely exciting match . In the first half , each Kilmoyley player seemed to place a shawl over his opposite number resulting in a collective smothering of Causeway. Causeway could be accused shooting a lot of wishes but this was chiefly due to the claustrophobic tactics of Kilmoyley.
Nine points (?) down at half time I gave Causeway no chance . However , they borrowed those Kilmoyley shawls and it was they who now did the asphyxiating . Horsing their opponents at every opportunity Causeway took over and by the waterbreak they had Kilmoyley on the ropes and if that waterbreak had not intervened it is conceivable that they would have landed Kilmoyley on the canvas. But the waterbreak did materialise and it enabled Kilmoyley to get their second wind and eventually triumph. Like Leinster yesterday, Causeway gave themselves too much to do in the second half. Worthy champions last year , they did not buckle easily. They also have been succeeded by worthy champions.
That Maurice O’Connor is as slippery as Shane Conway.
The hurler on the ditch may ask why Brandon Barrett and Sean Leahy did not start. Of course that is why he does his hurling on the ditch.
Worth E10? Great value at twice the price.
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Post by mossie on Sept 20, 2020 17:07:17 GMT
Veteran, for €10 , superb value, 2 very entertaining matches
superb county finals, must be one of Kilmoyley's sweetest wins as they 7\4 outsiders which was some price for a club with such a tradition
Mossie O'Connor second goal was something else, such footwork and finishing with no hurley. Causeway just couldnt match Kilmoyley's zeal and hunger in the first half and were caught out here really. John Meyler had Kilmoyley so well primed.
Kilmoyley go joint top of the roll of honour now with Ballyduff. I suspect Matthew Flaherty is the first Dingle man to win a county senior hurling championship medal
All in all a super county senior hurling final
Likewise the intermediate final. Due reward for those in Crokes who has stuck with the hurling. Crokes looked very well drilled by Eddie Murphy. The introduction of Chris Doncel at half time had a big impact. With him Lenehan and Doyle in attack , Parnells just couldnt hold them all. Spare a thought for Mark Ryall the Parnells keeper who just kept pulling off save after save. Tadhg Brick and Dara Reen were very good also for Parnells
Hurling in Kerry is improving if it can have an intermediate final of that standard
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 20, 2020 17:11:31 GMT
What did the two old codgers make of it Veteran. Delighted that you are on top of the live streaming technology now.
I will be watching it later on tonight or tomorrow as i was out all day but i got a blow by blow account from an animated Kilmoyley relative a few minutes ago.
Its amazing that the Kilmoyley tactic of isolating Maurice O'Connor worked again v Causeway. I thought Causeway would have snuffed out that threat by strangling the supply.
How was the first game..was there a big disparity in standard?
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 20, 2020 17:16:27 GMT
mossie..Dingle won it in 1940. Some Kerry footballers on it like Tom Gega OConnor.
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Post by mossie on Sept 20, 2020 17:22:45 GMT
mossie..Dingle won it in 1940. Some Kerry footballers on it like Tom Gega OConnor. dingle won it?! i knew they contested a final alright Barry O'Sullivan was a key player for Kilmoyley in 2019 but couldnt commit this year. Paul Geaney played hurling with Kilmoyley up to under 21, few that like hurling back west |
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Post by mossie on Sept 20, 2020 17:26:43 GMT
What did the two old codgers make of it Veteran. Delighted that you are on top of the live streaming technology now. I will be watching it later on tonight or tomorrow as i was out all day but i got a blow by blow account from an animated Kilmoyley relative a few minutes ago. Its amazing that the Kilmoyley tactic of isolating Maurice O'Connor worked again v Causeway. I thought Causeway would have snuffed out that threat by strangling the supply. How was the first game..was there a big disparity in standard? maybe easier said than done to strange the supply! with hinsight Brandon Barrett was too big and good a player to leave on the bench even if wasnt fully fit but look hindsight is perfect 1st match was the best intermediate match i have seen in kerry in a long time if ever, both teams very well prepared. Crokes just that bit slicker and more experienced. Heartening to see good young players in both teams. |
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 20, 2020 17:30:06 GMT
mossie..Dingle won it in 1940. Some Kerry footballers on it like Tom Gega OConnor. dingle won it?! i knew they contested a final alright Barry O'Sullivan was a key player for Kilmoyley in 2019 but couldnt commit this year. Paul Geaney played hurling with Kilmoyley up to under 21, few that like hurling back west Sorry...Banna beat Dingle in 1940. Yet Tom Gega OConnor definitely won a medal...more research needed... |
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Sept 20, 2020 18:00:57 GMT
Two nail biting matches today. The standard of hurling was top class.
Kilmoyley and Causeway could have lasted another hour before anyone would get bored.
Two thrilling matches.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 20, 2020 18:55:13 GMT
Kerry SHC Final: Kilmoyley win dramatic encounter
Sunday 20 September 2020
Kerry Senior Hurling Championship Final
KILMOYLEY 2-12 CAUSEWAY 1-14
By Paul Brennan at Austin Stack Park
It’s said the one thing harder than winning a championship title is defending it, and Causeway found out just how hard a title defence is as they relinquished their Kerry senior hurling title to rivals Kilmoyley in dramatic fashion.
In years to come thousands might claim to have been present for the ‘Covid final’ of 2020, but just 200 passionate and partisan supporters were in Austin Stack Park to witness an incredible final. More’s the pity. This was a contest that lurched this way and that until Kilmoyley broke the finishing tape first by a nose to claim a record-equalling 25th title, drawing them level with Ballyduff.
Most of the KPIs suggested Causeway would make it back to back titles, but Kilmoyley didn’t come into this county final just to make up the numbers. They never do. They had 24 titles coming into today’s contest; they left with a 25th.
At half time it looked that they might have collected the Neilus Flynn Cup there and then and headed home: they led by 10 points at the big break and the champions looked out on their feet and out of ideas.
By the second water break it seemed that Causeway had engineered hurling’s equivalent of the rope-a-dope. A goal and seven minutes without reply had the champions level with their tails on their backs. Kilmoyley were shell-shocked and had one knee on the canvass, but rather than a towel being thrown in, they took respite in the water break and regrouped.
It took almost 20 minutes of the second half before Kilmoyley got their first score – a Daniel Collins free – but it was like getting a jab of an EpiPen; suddenly all that first half vim and vigour returned to the men from Lerrig and they found a few precious points to get the job done.
It was a job that looked done and dusted by half time when Kilmoyley took a commanding 2-8 to 0-4 lead to the interval. The first quarter was a tight affair as both sides settled in under glorious sunshine, but there was a manic work-rate to Kilmoyley that had the champions rattled from the start. Kilmoyley led 0-4 to 0-3 at the first water break, and they were 0-6 to 0-3 ahead when the game’s first goal arrived.
Maurice O’Connor found himself running on to the loose ball behind the defence but with no hurley. He took a solo, dropped the sliotar and then kicked a bullet of a shot with his boot high to the net past Tadhg Flynn.
Six minutes later, in additional time, O’Connor gathered a long pass, turned his defender and beat Flynn for the second time with a fierce shot. Ten ahead at the turn, it was Kilmoyley’s final to lose.
Not fit enough to start, Causeway threw Brandon Barrett into the fray, and within six minutes of the restart he had scored 1-2 – his underhit free making its way all the way to the Kilmoyley net.
Sean Leahy was also sprung from the bench and his three points from play helped drag Causeway right back into the match, but just as Leahy levelled it up at 1-11 to 2-8, the water break intervened to save Kilmoyley. Replenished and resuscitated the challengers kicked on again.
Crucially Causeway never led in the contest, and once Kilmoyley didn't go under in that third quarter blitzkrieg they had a chance. They managed just four points in the second half but that was enough. Just.
Scorers for Kilmoyley: D Collins 0-8 (6fs, 2 ‘65’), M O’Connor 2-2, M Flaherty 0-1, P O’Connor 0-1
Scorers for Causeway: B Barrett 1-3 (2fs), S Leahy 0-3, C Harty 0-2, D Goggin 0-2, B Lyons 0-2 (1f, 1 ‘65’), Joseph Diggins 0-1, K Carmody 0-1
KILMOYLEY: John B O’Halloran, Seanie Nolan, Colman Savage, Flor McCarthy, James Godley, Dougie Fitzell, Tom Murnane, Matthew Flaherty, Paudie O’Connor, Kieran McCarthy, Daniel Collins, Robert Collins, Maurice O’Connor, Sean Maunsell, Philip Maunsell.
Subs: Jordan Brick for S Maunsell (45), Daire Nolan for R Collins (48).
CAUSEWAY: Tadhg Flynn, Tommy Barrett, Muiris Delaney, Sean Sheehan, Evan Murphy, Jason Diggins, Anthony Fealy, Joseph Diggins, Keith Carmody, Tommy Casey, Bryan Murphy, Colm Harty, Gavin Dooley, Billy Lyons, Dan Goggin.
Subs: Brandon Barrett for T Casey (ht), Sean Leahy for G Dooley (35), Gearoid Mahoney for B Lyons (55), Tommy Casey for D Goggin (58).
REFEREE: Donnacha O’Callaghan.
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Post by mossie on Sept 20, 2020 19:45:26 GMT
Two nail biting matches today. The standard of hurling was top class. Kilmoyley and Causeway could have lasted another hour before anyone would get bored. Two thrilling matches. It was the best quality hurling I have seen in a while on county final day across the 2 matches, it should be made compulsory viewing for all GAA fans in kerry in order to try spread the hurling gospel. As you say no fear of being bored. The County Hurling final day gets over hyped at times in kerry but today it lived up to all that hype and more. Something magical about hurling on days like today. I think if people get more exposure to hurling, the more it can take off in Kerry , it is clear people outside North Kerry want and can play it, witness some of the superb young players today with Parnells , Crokes and Matthew Flaherty from Dingle with Kilmoyley |
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Sept 20, 2020 19:59:08 GMT
You are exactly right. There was no way to overhype the final. The hurling on show was as good as the Limerick county final in my opinion. It goes to show that with the right resources and more people in Kerry picking up hurling that great things could be achieved.
For many, including me, football will stay number one, but like Tipperary has built a solid reputation on football as well as hurling I think Kerry can do the same.
After all so many Kerry footballers are or have been hurlers as well.
Here in West Limerick I'm on the border between hurling and footballing country.
From Ballingarry west it Is football that is the main game. Though our Granagh Ballingarry team is more known for hurling.
People around here play hurling with Ballingarry and where we are the youngsters go to Newcastle West for the football.
Rathkeale too is strong when it comes to football.
In North Kerry many hurling strongholds also have excellent football.
With a bit of creativity we can get so much out of them.
If anything the county finals today have shown how much hurling there is in Kerry.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 20, 2020 20:05:12 GMT
Your club is waiting 105 years to win its first senior hurling title in Tipperary. The game ebbs and flows and ends in a draw on 60. Extra time.
At the end of extra time you can only stand and watch your opponents go a point ahead from a 65. One last chance... you run into space and collect the hand pass.. a chance to level the game or end the 105 year wait. Bryan McLoughney chose the second option for Kildangan..
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Post by mossie on Sept 20, 2020 22:02:27 GMT
You are exactly right. There was no way to overhype the final. The hurling on show was as good as the Limerick county final in my opinion. It goes to show that with the right resources and more people in Kerry picking up hurling that great things could be achieved. For many, including me, football will stay number one, but like Tipperary has built a solid reputation on football as well as hurling I think Kerry can do the same. After all so many Kerry footballers are or have been hurlers as well. Here in West Limerick I'm on the border between hurling and footballing country. From Ballingarry west it Is football that is the main game. Though our Granagh Ballingarry team is more known for hurling. People around here play hurling with Ballingarry and where we are the youngsters go to Newcastle West for the football. Rathkeale too is strong when it comes to football. In North Kerry many hurling strongholds also have excellent football. With a bit of creativity we can get so much out of them. If anything the county finals today have shown how much hurling there is in Kerry. today's finals a superb advertisement for Kerry hurling anyway, a shame that the usual county final crowd wasnt there but i suspect many saw it on the streaming |
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 20, 2020 23:09:30 GMT
Just watched the senior match.
Causeway had 9 wides in the first half and some were poor efforts. It wasnt all down to Kilmoyley pressure either, more a collective light outs by them. Mossie OConnor has been the best player of the championship. David Clifford would be proud of the first goal and for the second he outfielded a taller opponent turned on a sixpence and slipped it past the keeper as nice as you could see.
This could aptly be described as the water break final as it shifted the momentum big time in the second half after Causeways heroic fightback.
No question that Kilmoyley were deserving winners as they dominated for 40 minutes.
Causeway will rue the first half and they will wonder what would have happened had Brandon Barret and Sean Leahy started. They didnt expect to be 10 points down at half time i suppose.
So 7 games all played in ASP and its the first time in years that i saw them all. There is a lot of talent coming up.
The straight knock out meant all games had an edge and the county board were lucky that Causeway and Kilmoyley were kept apart till today as they were the two best teamns. The two teams with hardly any dual players too.
And hardly a dirty stroke to be seen in any game all of which were well reffed although Causeway might justifiably quibble with a a few decisions that went against them for over carrying today.
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Post by mossie on Sept 20, 2020 23:25:58 GMT
there is a lot of talent Mickmack, maybe the Joe McDonagh cup is a realistic target in 2020
watch the inter final, you will see some young players that impress you there too
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Post by hurleynothurl on Sept 21, 2020 21:08:44 GMT
Hello.
I think there could be a very strong argument made for the closed club/intercounty season. There were players there on Sunday that have played the last number of years with Kerry and have only returned to their clubs a few weeks before championship begins. Some coming back bruised and battered from an intercounty season and are trying to recover for their club games.
Does anyone agree that the standard of the final this year could be attributed to this. Intercounty players had time to train and play with their fellow clubmen. I would argue that the standard of club hurling has improved nationally.
If anything this crap heap of a year has shown is that the club scene should be valued and cherished. A strong club scene has a knock on to county.
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Post by veteran on Sept 21, 2020 21:56:14 GMT
Mickmack, The old codgers , while not primarily hurling followers, were as delighted as myself with the fare, being starved of games since March. They particularly enjoyed Maurice O’Connor’s kicked goal! Without being invited, immediately after the match they booked their seats for the football next weekend!
Two old timers who appreciate what Tim Murphy and the county board are doing for followers with this innovation.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Sept 22, 2020 0:02:39 GMT
A cat county man gave me a great feel for the future of Kerry hurling of a day up here in the Highlands, sure if the Dubs can do it, so can we! Slaughneil would have same constraints and they did it.
Ah we'll have to wait for McCarthy but once we get him he might like us like Sam!
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Post by southward on Sept 22, 2020 9:17:31 GMT
Driving through hurling country at the weekend. Fantastic display of colour in the competing parishes. Seemed like every building, ditch and lampost around Causeway and Kilmoyley had multiple flags, bunting, billboards, teddies, the lot. Even a big Tralee Parnells Banner in a garden in Causeway. Great show around Ballyduff & Ballyheigue for the minors too.
Wonderful to see that pride of place. Looked brilliant in the sunshine. Mighty stuff.
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Post by hurlingman on Sept 24, 2020 18:11:58 GMT
Veteran, for €10 , superb value, 2 very entertaining matches superb county finals, must be one of Kilmoyley's sweetest wins as they 7\4 outsiders which was some price for a club with such a tradition Mossie O'Connor second goal was something else, such footwork and finishing with no hurley. Causeway just couldnt match Kilmoyley's zeal and hunger in the first half and were caught out here really. John Meyler had Kilmoyley so well primed. Kilmoyley go joint top of the roll of honour now with Ballyduff. I suspect Matthew Flaherty is the first Dingle man to win a county senior hurling championship medal All in all a super county senior hurling final Likewise the intermediate final. Due reward for those in Crokes who has stuck with the hurling. Crokes looked very well drilled by Eddie Murphy. The introduction of Chris Doncel at half time had a big impact. With him Lenehan and Doyle in attack , Parnells just couldnt hold them all. Spare a thought for Mark Ryall the Parnells keeper who just kept pulling off save after save. Tadhg Brick and Dara Reen were very good also for Parnells Hurling in Kerry is improving if it can have an intermediate final of that standard When Kerry won the Chrity Ring in 2011 there was a Patrick O'Keeffe from Crokes playing. Whatever came of him? Think he wa Under 21 a well the same year. |
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Post by himself on Sept 24, 2020 18:41:56 GMT
Not sure where Pa is now, but his older brother Michael came off the bench for Crokes. I was delighted to see it - Michael was there during a lot of the hard days for Crokes (the O'Keeffes are from Glenflesk) hurling
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