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Post by veteran on Sept 16, 2020 17:20:24 GMT
In a year when the income of the county board is reduced to a trickle, I am baffled and disappointed that some people here are moaning about paying E20 to see the final being streamed. Being a technophobe I have shied away from streaming but ,due to encouragement from Mickmack , this afternoon I set up my account and I smugly await transmission. Will probably tune into the hurling as well but this will depend on domestic plans.
I intend to invite two old codgers to my home who do not have internet. I will happily treat them to an unexpected feast for which I have no doubt they will thank me profusely. I will also be able to download match programmes and of course no petrol expense etc. This will enable us to see the Clifford boys, Liam Carey, Gavin O’Grady etc. All this for E20! Are people serious about begrudging the county board E20 in this miserable year.
Of course nothing beats being there but considering all the circumstances streaming at E20 strikes me as a bargain.
As my old friend, President JFK, would say , think not what the county board can do for you, rather what you can do for your county board. Especially in 2020.
P.S. As a keen rugby follower how much would sky charge me for the streaming of the Leinster /Saracens at the weekend?
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Post by Galway breeze on Sept 16, 2020 17:34:24 GMT
Streaming at 20e is a rip off and there is no guaranty we will see the last ten minutes going on previous streaming. The CB must make cut backs but don’t screw the costumer.
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Post by diego on Sept 16, 2020 17:49:22 GMT
While I'm sure I will pay whatever the price is, I'd be of the same opinion as Annascaul.
Would be surprised if you got half as many people to pay 20 as you would to pay 10 Euro.
And even if you got marginally more cash overall, would it be worth it given the negative publicity - whether deserved or not - that would be likely to come out of it.
I'd be surprised if it will be any more than EUR15.
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Post by Fado on Sept 16, 2020 17:51:31 GMT
Well you can leave me out of the moaning group, I simply won't pay €20 in the hope of getting the service I paid for. A few week ago they were offering games to be purchased singly, then they withdrew the offer and forced everyone who weren't quick enough to purchase a package two game together. On top of that, the stream crashed several times with half of one game missed completely by some.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Sept 16, 2020 17:59:21 GMT
Ballydonoghoors v Listowel was as good a broadcast as you could imagine, albeit with excellent commentary and backing - John Kennedy was exceptional, a pure natural.
It wasn't so long ago that I was castigated for wanting to see games live - who said it didn't matter when they saw it?
I suppose TCB is basing charges on gate ticket and Veteran is offering a '4 for 1' deal to his fellow invader voyagers to the '62 Munster Final, maybe the fella who owned the horse 'n' cart will get a concession to Chez Veteran, now there's a function that would be worth gate crashing, oh to be a fly on the wall!
Ah go on Vet, send us a click of yez, wan for the record!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Sept 16, 2020 18:00:42 GMT
I would not identify as a moaner.
If the aim is to maximise revenue the best price point is somewhere between €0 and €100 and I would like to know that the CB has identified €20 as the price point that they think does that.
If that price was €40, and the CB charged that, I would support the CB... but I would guess that price might be lower than €20... but maybe not.
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Post by diego on Sept 16, 2020 18:01:42 GMT
Prices up for this weekend's games.
An Ghaeltacht v Na Gaeil for 5 Euro.
Hurling finals on Sunday come together as a 10 Euro package.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Sept 16, 2020 18:34:19 GMT
I would gladly pay €20, but a lot of people won't. The big worry for me though is that many don't have access to live streams. My neighbours are diehard Kerry supporters, always have been, and always will. They moved to West Limerick over 40 years ago, but are still very much part of the community in North Kerry. They don't have broadband. They won't be able to see the match. We have no pubs in the village and if we did they wouldn't be allowed to open as wet pubs. I wonder what will happen when the wet puns open on Monday and put up a big screen. That is if any pubs in West Limerick would show the stream. I'm sure pubs in Abbeyfeale might, but pubs in Newcastle West or Charleville, the nearest towns to us? The pubs in Rathkeale or Adare most certainly won't show it. And I'm quite sure that is true for many rural pubs in Kerry too. Will Enrights in Moyvane have a big screen? Doubt it. So where do those people go to watch the game? Would deferred coverage of the final have been possible? I'm sure that those that pay for the live stream want it live and it would not cut into the revenue when showing it deferred on the box.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Sept 16, 2020 18:47:45 GMT
I would gladly pay €20, but a lot of people won't. The big worry for me though is that many don't have access to live streams. My neighbours are diehard Kerry supporters, always have been, and always will. They moved to West Limerick over 40 years ago, but are still very much part of the community in North Kerry. They don't have broadband. They won't be able to see the match. We have no pubs in the village and if we did they wouldn't be allowed to open as wet pubs. I wonder what will happen when the wet puns open on Monday and put up a big screen. That is if any pubs in West Limerick would show the stream. I'm sure pubs in Abbeyfeale might, but pubs in Newcastle West or Charleville, the nearest towns to us? The pubs in Rathkeale or Adare most certainly won't show it. And I'm quite sure that is true for many rural pubs in Kerry too. Will Enrights in Moyvane have a big screen? Doubt it. So where do those people go to watch the game? Would deferred coverage of the final have been possible? I'm sure that those that pay for the live stream want it live and it would not cut into the revenue when showing it deferred on the box. Did they go to the county final last year?
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Sept 16, 2020 19:21:15 GMT
I would gladly pay €20, but a lot of people won't. The big worry for me though is that many don't have access to live streams. My neighbours are diehard Kerry supporters, always have been, and always will. They moved to West Limerick over 40 years ago, but are still very much part of the community in North Kerry. They don't have broadband. They won't be able to see the match. We have no pubs in the village and if we did they wouldn't be allowed to open as wet pubs. I wonder what will happen when the wet puns open on Monday and put up a big screen. That is if any pubs in West Limerick would show the stream. I'm sure pubs in Abbeyfeale might, but pubs in Newcastle West or Charleville, the nearest towns to us? The pubs in Rathkeale or Adare most certainly won't show it. And I'm quite sure that is true for many rural pubs in Kerry too. Will Enrights in Moyvane have a big screen? Doubt it. So where do those people go to watch the game? Would deferred coverage of the final have been possible? I'm sure that those that pay for the live stream want it live and it would not cut into the revenue when showing it deferred on the box. Did they go to the county final last year? They did. We often drive down for a game. Even our small village of Ballingarry has about 10 people that go to almost every Kerry game. Earlier in the year we went to see the Kerry minors and had the problem that the Limerick minors were playing the same evening in the hurling with one of our neighbours playing. So the parents went to see him while I went to Tralee with the uncle. We use broadband via the satellite, but our neighbours across the road don't. So unless they come over to our house they won't be able to see the game at all.
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Post by veteran on Sept 16, 2020 20:00:37 GMT
Seoirse , I take your point about some people not having access to internet . However , why not invite a couple of people to your house to share in the festivities . Of course this suggestion applies to others here who share the same worry about some people not having access to the internet.
This would would be a throw back to another time when neighbours shared radios and then televisions. Wouldn’t that be an interesting experiment in social history for , dare I use the expression, members of the snowflake generation. Of course , anybody so minded could charge a fee to defray expenses!
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Post by brigid on Sept 16, 2020 20:31:28 GMT
I am surprised at all the comments about a E20 charge. I don't expect any of these "supporters" visiting Dublin for the All Ireland.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Sept 16, 2020 20:45:10 GMT
Seoirse , I take your point about some people not having access to internet . However , why not invite a couple of people to your house to share in the festivities . Of course this suggestion applies to others here who share the same worry about some people not having access to the internet. This would would be a throw back to another time when neighbours shared radios and then televisions. Wouldn’t that be an interesting experiment in social history for , dare I use the expression, members of the snowflake generation. Of course , anybody so minded could charge a fee to defray expenses! I agree. I do invite my neighbours over of course. But I couldn't invite all local supporters over. Even if I wanted to with the restrictions on 6 people indoors. Unfortunately there are others too who might not know their neighbours very well and wouldn't feel comfortable going over to another house. Perhaps they could look into showing the game live via a livestream and showing a replay free to air the next day. That way the county board would still see the revenue and everyone gets to see the game.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Sept 16, 2020 20:46:13 GMT
I am surprised at all the comments about a E20 charge. I don't expect any of these "supporters" visiting Dublin for the All Ireland. I would and I know many others commenting here will go as well.
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Post by southward on Sept 16, 2020 21:35:19 GMT
I am surprised at all the comments about a E20 charge. I don't expect any of these "supporters" visiting Dublin for the All Ireland. Would you listen to this? Do everything and pay everything you're told without question or you're not a real supporter, is that it? Like thousands of others, I invest time, money and emotion, year after year, in support of club and county football. As well as going to games, this includes contributing to fundraisers, for which one expects no direct return. Happy to do it all too. It doesn't mean, however, that I'll just purchase any product at any price. In this case, it's simply too much, in my opinion, for what it is and I won't pay it. But I'll throw my tenner into the next raffle hat, no problem. btw, the way it's shaping up, there'll be none of us going to Dublin this year. Perhaps a few hundred lucky souls in Killarney for the AI final?
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Post by goonised on Sept 16, 2020 21:35:41 GMT
Seoirse , I take your point about some people not having access to internet . However , why not invite a couple of people to your house to share in the festivities . Of course this suggestion applies to others here who share the same worry about some people not having access to the internet. This would would be a throw back to another time when neighbours shared radios and then televisions. Wouldn’t that be an interesting experiment in social history for , dare I use the expression, members of the snowflake generation. Of course , anybody so minded could charge a fee to defray expenses! I agree. I do invite my neighbours over of course. But I couldn't invite all local supporters over. Even if I wanted to with the restrictions on 6 people indoors. Unfortunately there are others too who might not know their neighbours very well and wouldn't feel comfortable going over to another house. Perhaps they could look into showing the game live via a livestream and showing a replay free to air the next day. That way the county board would still see the revenue and everyone gets to see the game. Head for the pub and have 5 pints with your 20 Euro
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 22:06:05 GMT
Can we all agree that paying for the stream does not make you a better supporter than those who choose not to for whatever reason.
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Post by Kerry GAA Officer on Sept 16, 2020 22:14:47 GMT
Price confirmation! The two hurling finals together this weekend are priced at €10. The County Football final is also priced at €10. It was never suggested or hinted at that there would be a price hike. It was announced last week that the semi final and final for the football would be €10. This will include the full live action from the football final, commentary from Gary & Sean and interviews with plenty of special guests. It is hoped that the stream for the football will begin 1 hour before throw in with a pre match build up. All in all good value for €10 😉
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Sept 16, 2020 22:19:08 GMT
Mighty stuff can't wait.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 16, 2020 22:36:30 GMT
Price confirmation! The two hurling finals together this weekend are priced at €10. The County Football final is also priced at €10. It was never suggested or hinted at that there would be a price hike. It was announced last week that the semi final and final for the football would be €10. This will include the full live action from the football final, commentary from Gary & Sean and interviews with plenty of special guests. It is hoped that the stream for the football will begin 1 hour before throw in with a pre match build up. All in all good value for €10 😉 Mighty. I am looking forward to the curtain raiser in the hurling too between Parnells and Crokes. I was a small boy at the 1969 county Final between Killarney-East Kerry and The Rock which East Kerry won narrowly.. Kerry had beaten Offaly in the All Ireland final a few before which was my first experience of such an thing happening, and it was great to see three of them on the East Kerry side, Johnny Culloty, Brendan Lynch and Tom Prendergast.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Sept 16, 2020 22:55:50 GMT
Price confirmation! The two hurling finals together this weekend are priced at €10. The County Football final is also priced at €10. It was never suggested or hinted at that there would be a price hike. It was announced last week that the semi final and final for the football would be €10. This will include the full live action from the football final, commentary from Gary & Sean and interviews with plenty of special guests. It is hoped that the stream for the football will begin 1 hour before throw in with a pre match build up. All in all good value for €10 😉 Thanks. I'm really looking forward to it. Have a special bottle saved to share with the neighbours. A lot of people miss the games terribly and for many that has impacted very negatively on their lives. Being able to watch Gaelic games gives us a bit of normality. www.247.tv/gaa/kerry
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Post by onlykerry on Sept 17, 2020 10:32:36 GMT
I am surprised at all the comments about a E20 charge. I don't expect any of these "supporters" visiting Dublin for the All Ireland. Would you listen to this? Do everything and pay everything you're told without question or you're not a real supporter, is that it? Like thousands of others, I invest time, money and emotion, year after year, in support of club and county football. As well as going to games, this includes contributing to fundraisers, for which one expects no direct return. Happy to do it all too. It doesn't mean, however, that I'll just purchase any product at any price. In this case, it's simply too much, in my opinion, for what it is and I won't pay it. But I'll throw my tenner into the next raffle hat, no problem. btw, the way it's shaping up, there'll be none of us going to Dublin this year. Perhaps a few hundred lucky souls in Killarney for the AI final? I saw Tomas O Se floating the idea of the AI finals being in the provinces this year - great idea, however No Lights in Fitzgerald Stadium so not an option for a December 19th game. What are the venues with lights around the country? (ASP is the only lit Kerry venue) 19th December is a Saturday so presume a 7pm game.
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Post by veteran on Sept 17, 2020 11:52:06 GMT
I wonder was Derry Crowley, father of Johnny, on that Killarney 1969 hurling team? I think Derry was a hurler too.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Sept 17, 2020 12:19:18 GMT
Price confirmation! The two hurling finals together this weekend are priced at €10. The County Football final is also priced at €10. It was never suggested or hinted at that there would be a price hike. It was announced last week that the semi final and final for the football would be €10. This will include the full live action from the football final, commentary from Gary & Sean and interviews with plenty of special guests. It is hoped that the stream for the football will begin 1 hour before throw in with a pre match build up. All in all good value for €10 😉 You’re giving it away at the price, hike it up ta f*ck
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Sept 17, 2020 14:08:41 GMT
Would you listen to this? Do everything and pay everything you're told without question or you're not a real supporter, is that it? Like thousands of others, I invest time, money and emotion, year after year, in support of club and county football. As well as going to games, this includes contributing to fundraisers, for which one expects no direct return. Happy to do it all too. It doesn't mean, however, that I'll just purchase any product at any price. In this case, it's simply too much, in my opinion, for what it is and I won't pay it. But I'll throw my tenner into the next raffle hat, no problem. btw, the way it's shaping up, there'll be none of us going to Dublin this year. Perhaps a few hundred lucky souls in Killarney for the AI final? I saw Tomas O Se floating the idea of the AI finals being in the provinces this year - great idea, however No Lights in Fitzgerald Stadium so not an option for a December 19th game. What are the venues with lights around the country? (ASP is the only lit Kerry venue) 19th December is a Saturday so presume a 7pm game. Gaelic grounds, Semple and POC would be the obvious venues. Personally I would prefer Croke Park for the finals. It's where every player wants to play.
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Post by The16thMan on Sept 17, 2020 14:27:32 GMT
I am surprised at all the comments about a E20 charge. I don't expect any of these "supporters" visiting Dublin for the All Ireland. Was a season ticket holder this year, go to all the games and happy to do so. However I wouldn't feel like the stream is worth €20 for 2 reasons: 1) County final ticket was €20 last year where you got to experience the atmosphere and match day experience. 2) No atmosphere from a stream, just sit and watch. The stream itself is poor quality and has crashed in the past. For those reasons if it is priced at €20 then I will 100% not be paying for it. Also I remember in July Tim Murphy came out and said all games would be streamed "for €5 each". What a load of b******s that turned out to be
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 17, 2020 15:01:36 GMT
I am surprised at all the comments about a E20 charge. I don't expect any of these "supporters" visiting Dublin for the All Ireland. Was a season ticket holder this year, go to all the games and happy to do so. However I wouldn't feel like the stream is worth €20 for 2 reasons: 1) County final ticket was €20 last year where you got to experience the atmosphere and match day experience. 2) No atmosphere from a stream, just sit and watch. The stream itself is poor quality and has crashed in the past. For those reasons if it is priced at €20 then I will 100% not be paying for it. Also I remember in July Tim Murphy came out and said all games would be streamed "for €5 each". What a load of b******s that turned out to be maybe you missed the post by Kerry GAA Officer.... its a tenner for the live stream. There is one aspect of the match day experience that i dont miss...some buffoon shouting into your ear at the ref, the players etc etc. And "stop handpassing and kick it long inti the fullforward"... who is probably being double teamed anyway.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Sept 17, 2020 15:23:30 GMT
I am surprised at all the comments about a E20 charge. I don't expect any of these "supporters" visiting Dublin for the All Ireland. Was a season ticket holder this year, go to all the games and happy to do so. However I wouldn't feel like the stream is worth €20 for 2 reasons: 1) County final ticket was €20 last year where you got to experience the atmosphere and match day experience. 2) No atmosphere from a stream, just sit and watch. The stream itself is poor quality and has crashed in the past. For those reasons if it is priced at €20 then I will 100% not be paying for it. Also I remember in July Tim Murphy came out and said all games would be streamed "for €5 each". What a load of b******s that turned out to be It's €10 Price confirmation! The two hurling finals together this weekend are priced at €10. The County Football final is also priced at €10. It was never suggested or hinted at that there would be a price hike. It was announced last week that the semi final and final for the football would be €10. This will include the full live action from the football final, commentary from Gary & Sean and interviews with plenty of special guests. It is hoped that the stream for the football will begin 1 hour before throw in with a pre match build up. All in all good value for €10 😉
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Post by dc84 on Sept 17, 2020 15:35:55 GMT
A tenner is a fair price in fairness i will be watching anyway, seriously doubt the AIs would be moved croke park has the best access routes for one which may enable slight increase in allowed attendance. Also the biggest days deserve the biggest stage all ireland semis should be though as how do teams work it if they arent to overnight as per the recommendations?
Be very unfair if one team had to get a 4/5 hour bus journey and another didnt...
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Post by veteran on Sept 17, 2020 16:54:49 GMT
Mickmack made reference to the 1969 All-Ireland in the context of attending the county hurling final of that year.
That 1969 football final was the only All-Ireland I missed through being outside the country at the time. Three of us spent the summer working in McVitie’s biscuit factory in Harleseden , North London. Communications of course was. at a very primitive level in that era. The internet and mobile phones were unheard of and the landline phone was a very rare commodity as well, in rural areas perhaps one phone or so per parish. This of course presented problems for any body wishing to tune into the match or , at worst, getting the result.
The workforce at McVities at that time was mostly populated by Pakistanis and some Englishmen. Neither race had any interest or appreciation of our dilemma! However, someone suggested that in order to get the running commentary on the match all we need do was to go to some large park with a transistor radio and position ourselves under a telephone pole which would enhance the signal. I am not sure if our “ advisor” genuinely believed that or if he was having a laugh at the expense of Paddy. In any case we duly did as advised but no matter which angle we held the transistor there was no geek coming from Croke Park. Frustration and abject disappointment does not adequately describe our mood.
So , we clocked in for our night shift at McVities at 8pm in the surreal situation that an All-Ireland had been competed for and we were none the wiser as to the result. We clocked out at 8am and made our way to Cricklewood and had to wait until about 10am for the Irish Press to arrive with the joyful news.
I concluded then that the only place to be on All-Irelland day was in Ireland , ideally in Croke Park , especially if Kerry was involved. Thankfully, that has been my good fortune ever since.
That unpleasant experience also gave me an insight into the plight of our Kerry emigrants. Of course , the advent of the internet has transformed life for them and this Forum must be an especially gold plated resource . Still, I am sure they all miss the smell of the greasepaint and the cacophony of sound and the kaleidoscope of colour of match day. I hope, if it is their wish, that someday they will return and experience what we take for granted ,
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