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Post by homerj on Dec 3, 2019 8:40:49 GMT
as a player, i always loved playing in ballylongford over every other ground in North Kerry - i think its something different to everywhere else. coming into the ground with the crowd around you, coming on to the pitch through the crowd, close to the pitch and a cracking atmosphere always.
listowel has had enough of big games over the last few years, ballyb got a few recently, moyvane had last years final. i think bally are due their turn. ive no issue with it being there at all.
last time i was at the pitch at this time of year (decemer 2018) the pitch was in great nick. im sure it will be for sunday also.
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Post by agoalisworth3pts on Dec 3, 2019 10:51:00 GMT
as a player, i always loved playing in ballylongford over every other ground in North Kerry - i think its something different to everywhere else. coming into the ground with the crowd around you, coming on to the pitch through the crowd, close to the pitch and a cracking atmosphere always. listowel has had enough of big games over the last few years, ballyb got a few recently, moyvane had last years final. i think bally are due their turn. ive no issue with it being there at all. last time i was at the pitch at this time of year (decemer 2018) the pitch was in great nick. im sure it will be for sunday also. Pitch was very heavy and no bounce in the ball two weeks ago for tarbert and ballydonaghue game hopefully if wether stays like this pitch will be ok but if weather turns pitch won’t be great but fair play you are the only one on here who has Stood up for bally for the final |
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Post by fairplay2all on Dec 3, 2019 13:38:34 GMT
It’s a pity the discussion is more about the venue than the game itself, true it’s a baffling decision as to why it’s on in Ballylongford but I think it’s time the Bally boys started to defend their ground and the best way of doing that is by making sure that on Sunday week the pitch is properly cut and lined , that there are plenty of stewards being helpful to the crowd and assisting patrons in any way they can . They’re a proud club with great tradition in football so I’m sure they will have everything done to ensure a great day out in the most prestigious district competition in Ireland !!
Back to the game , an intriguing contest to look forward to , St Senans have what Brosna don’t , a title , and I think this is a major advantage as the pressure is off them and the experience of winning last year is invaluable, Senans are a dogged team who will be bolstered by the return of Sean T , Foran and Somers, Sean weirs red card is a serious blow to them , Brosna have had a poor year , relegated from league and championship but somehow somewhere they have found form at the right time for this competition, Ballyduff should have beaten them first day but didn’t and Brosna gained confidence as the battle wore on , the standard in the Brosna semi a lot higher than the Senans one but that will count for nothing on the 15th , Brosna have a better spread of forwards but Senans have the doggedness and experience!!
Maybe a draw !!!
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Post by southward on Dec 3, 2019 18:22:15 GMT
as a player, i always loved playing in ballylongford over every other ground in North Kerry - i think its something different to everywhere else. coming into the ground with the crowd around you, coming on to the pitch through the crowd, close to the pitch and a cracking atmosphere always. listowel has had enough of big games over the last few years, ballyb got a few recently, moyvane had last years final. i think bally are due their turn. ive no issue with it being there at all. last time i was at the pitch at this time of year (decemer 2018) the pitch was in great nick. im sure it will be for sunday also. I get where you're coming from Homerj and no disrespect to Bally football club is intended here. But even their best efforts can't change the fact that Ballylongford can never offer the access, the parking and all the other facilities and comforts that Listowel can. No more than Abbeydorney can match Semple Stadium for a big hurling game. It's nothing to be insulted about. "Listowel has had enough of big games" - I'd dispute that. Don't think it got a single game last year and it's had very few finals in the past 15 years as far as I remember. In any case I'd suggest that every final should be in Listowel for the reasons already stated. Should the All-Ireland Final be moved around so that Austin Stack Park, Ballybofey and Newbridge get a go? |
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Post by goonised on Dec 3, 2019 20:01:26 GMT
Should be listowel no matter who in it. West Kerry final always Dingle. East Kerry always Fitzgerald stadium. Neutrals from outside district wont go Ballylongford
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Post by mossie on Dec 3, 2019 21:20:52 GMT
It’s a pity the discussion is more about the venue than the game itself, true it’s a baffling decision as to why it’s on in Ballylongford but I think it’s time the Bally boys started to defend their ground and the best way of doing that is by making sure that on Sunday week the pitch is properly cut and lined , that there are plenty of stewards being helpful to the crowd and assisting patrons in any way they can . They’re a proud club with great tradition in football so I’m sure they will have everything done to ensure a great day out in the most prestigious district competition in Ireland !! Back to the game , an intriguing contest to look forward to , St Senans have what Brosna don’t , a title , and I think this is a major advantage as the pressure is off them and the experience of winning last year is invaluable, Senans are a dogged team who will be bolstered by the return of Sean T , Foran and Somers, Sean weirs red card is a serious blow to them , Brosna have had a poor year , relegated from league and championship but somehow somewhere they have found form at the right time for this competition, Ballyduff should have beaten them first day but didn’t and Brosna gained confidence as the battle wore on , the standard in the Brosna semi a lot higher than the Senans one but that will count for nothing on the 15th , Brosna have a better spread of forwards but Senans have the doggedness and experience!! Maybe a draw !!! a draw never a bad bet in the NK championship! |
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Post by wideball on Dec 3, 2019 21:55:17 GMT
I don't agree that all finals should be in Listowel. Would castleisland not be a more suitable venue for this final?
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Post by otobeawinner on Dec 3, 2019 23:08:04 GMT
Ah come on. Is that a joke. No is the answer. Would they even be interested in opening the gate?
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Post by wideball on Dec 3, 2019 23:55:36 GMT
Ah come on. Is that a joke. No is the answer. Would they even be interested in opening the gate? Your right, makes much more sense to bring Brosna all the way to ballylongford. How foolish of me. |
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Post by goonised on Dec 4, 2019 0:28:52 GMT
Ah come on. Is that a joke. No is the answer. Would they even be interested in opening the gate? Fair point |
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Post by kodie on Dec 4, 2019 16:19:06 GMT
Should be a cracker this. Two great sides willing to battle for the cause. Any predictions for me Brosna should have the hunger
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Post by otobeawinner on Dec 4, 2019 16:55:53 GMT
Should be a cracker this. Two great sides willing to battle for the cause. Any predictions for me Brosna should have the hunger If what is said above us true re return of david foran I thhnn it will alleviate some of the loss from s weir red. But he must have very little played this past few months. Also Somers I though he was retired??? I feel that if lads are catapulted back in to a team it can show signs of weakness. I think the conditions will suit brosna for sure, the hunger marginally only as previously mentioned the monkey is off senans back. I will put something on a draw tbh as I cant get off the fence. |
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Post by otobeawinner on Dec 4, 2019 16:57:38 GMT
Should be a cracker this. Two great sides willing to battle for the cause. Any predictions for me Brosna should have the hunger If what is said above is true re return of david foran I think it will alleviate some of the loss from s weirs red. But he must have very little played this past few months. Also Somers I though he was retired??? I feel that if lads are catapulted back in to a team it can show signs of weakness. I think the conditions will suit brosna for sure, the hunger, marginally only, as previously mentioned the monkey is off senans back. I will put something on a draw tbh as I cant get off the fence. |
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Post by abù on Dec 4, 2019 22:55:48 GMT
as a player, i always loved playing in ballylongford over every other ground in North Kerry - i think its something different to everywhere else. coming into the ground with the crowd around you, coming on to the pitch through the crowd, close to the pitch and a cracking atmosphere always. listowel has had enough of big games over the last few years, ballyb got a few recently, moyvane had last years final. i think bally are due their turn. ive no issue with it being there at all. last time i was at the pitch at this time of year (decemer 2018) the pitch was in great nick. im sure it will be for sunday also. I’m sure it was yourself that branded it “a mental decision” to take Ballydonoghue all the “way out there” to Brosna last year for a semi final. And yet there is no problem now taking Brosna to Ballylongford as Bally are due their turn? All Finals should be in Listowel, if that’s not available, taking into account the teams contesting, Castleisland, Duagh or Knocknagoshel. |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 5, 2019 11:53:54 GMT
I suppose the underlying issue is that Ballylongford is towards one end of the district and not having a a full 360 degree catchment area means it is hit extra hard with rural depopulation. So funding is limited and so facilities mightn't have had the same funding. It is so so sad, 'Newtown' and 'Bally' were the natural venues for the previous generation, rural villages which was in tone with the clubs competing.
John Bs daughter could never figure out why he was so keen to have her get her driving test, yes, you figured it out, to drive him home from such places. Yerra on second thoughts it will rekindle that magic and that is what NK GAA is all about, all part of our culture that is lost. Oh the days of the Walshs and the O'Donoghues and then coke and crisps in Johnny Walsh's - M O Muireartaigh had plenty to say about these fellas and a Donegal man was telling me all about Eamonn O'Donoghue lately, he had such forensic knowledge of him and which must have been representative of the quality. Then you had big Paidi when the FB kicked out, I better stop now as the eyes are welling.
I was too young to recall specific games but others with greater knowledge will have fond memories, very fond!
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Post by tonydorigo on Dec 5, 2019 15:39:54 GMT
Should be a good final between two teams who have been bringing through quality players for the last number of years.
Senans are struggling to fill gaps in the team with players missing and it is a pity that they haven't held onto all the talented youngsters that came through for them underage over the last few years. Still a few gems in there but does fill like they are trying to plug gaps at the moment given their lack of depth.
Brosna are an impressive club and have always punched well above their weight. Would be a well deserved medal for the likes of Flor McAuliffe & Tom McGoldrick if they were to win the final. Very strong in all lines with the likes of Eamon Kiely, Shane Fitzmaurice, Adam Barry, Paul Walsh and the Finnegans.
As a neutral I'd be happy to see either side triumph and hopefully a quality game as well for the punters.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 5, 2019 21:05:45 GMT
Should be a good final between two teams who have been bringing through quality players for the last number of years. Senans are struggling to fill gaps in the team with players missing and it is a pity that they haven't held onto all the talented youngsters that came through for them underage over the last few years. Still a few gems in there but does fill like they are trying to plug gaps at the moment given their lack of depth. Brosna are an impressive club and have always punched well above their weight. Would be a well deserved medal for the likes of Flor McAuliffe & Tom McGoldrick if they were to win the final. Very strong in all lines with the likes of Eamon Kiely, Shane Fitzmaurice, Adam Barry, Paul Walsh and the Finnegans. As a neutral I'd be happy to see either side triumph and hopefully a quality game as well for the punters. Where are players being lost by Senans? |
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Post by tonydorigo on Dec 6, 2019 9:37:19 GMT
Should be a good final between two teams who have been bringing through quality players for the last number of years. Senans are struggling to fill gaps in the team with players missing and it is a pity that they haven't held onto all the talented youngsters that came through for them underage over the last few years. Still a few gems in there but does fill like they are trying to plug gaps at the moment given their lack of depth. Brosna are an impressive club and have always punched well above their weight. Would be a well deserved medal for the likes of Flor McAuliffe & Tom McGoldrick if they were to win the final. Very strong in all lines with the likes of Eamon Kiely, Shane Fitzmaurice, Adam Barry, Paul Walsh and the Finnegans. As a neutral I'd be happy to see either side triumph and hopefully a quality game as well for the punters. Where are players being lost by Senans? Quite a few gone with emigration. Some might have lost interested etc. Won 3 or 4 North Kerry Minors in a row but have been unlucky not to win more at senior. |
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 6, 2019 10:53:25 GMT
Paul Walsh to provide the something special to win it for Brosna?
Any plans for a delayed transmission of the game on Youtube?
A week after the game would do fine.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 6, 2019 15:46:30 GMT
Paul Walsh to provide the something special to win it for Brosna? Any plans for a delayed transmission of the game on Youtube? A week after the game would do fine. Ah jazus don't rush it, takes longer that a week to press a button, no way should emigrants be allowed see it live, same for in laws and family connections throughout Ireland, to hell with technology, no need for rural broadband etc - take a bow Mick! |
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 6, 2019 17:32:54 GMT
Your sense of entitlement is greater than mine. That's all.
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Post by clubman on Dec 6, 2019 20:46:46 GMT
Are any district finals broadcast live? I don't remember hearing of any
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Post by otobeawinner on Dec 6, 2019 21:41:10 GMT
Are any district finals broadcast live? I don't remember hearing of any no they are not. Unfortunately this is a misguided personal gripe that is rehashed on a now annual basis. I suspect anyone not able to travel home for a NK final would be delighted to watch the match online a week later. Its not like it will be on national media either so If I wanted to avoid knowing the result I would not search for it. Easy as. |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 7, 2019 10:28:24 GMT
Are any district finals broadcast live? I don't remember hearing of any no they are not. Unfortunately this is a misguided personal gripe that is rehashed on a now annual basis. I suspect anyone not able to travel home for a NK final would be delighted to watch the match online a week later. Its not like it will be on national media either so If I wanted to avoid knowing the result I would not search for it. Easy as. Plenty of club games were on national TV, a few Donegal ones too and in any event just because others don't do it doesn't mean nobody should. Is it a bit odd that tech savvy and supposedly GAA fanatics are against seeing games live, and those who then even talk of it are deemed unreasonable. And sure why do we need broadband, sure wait a few years and then ye can see the game, no hurry at all, but don't complain then that Dublin's resources helped pip us at the post when some of us think we shouldn't use the facilities we already have. Don't worry about those outside the county who can't make it to games, loyal Kerry supporters and connections of players. I don't know how it could be classed as a personal issue, and then accuse me of having a higher sense of entitlement - hey folks, take a day off, go back under the Gombeen mushroom, ah sure don't even consider local people who can't get to games, those in hospitals and in care, etc - look after Number one, well done! PS Don't complain when the powers that be don't broadcast games to our liking - well they can tell us that we wouldn't even broadcast our own games and when there was no other competing match on. Ah sure let's ban live coverage altogether -now that will make some of us happy! |
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Post by otobeawinner on Dec 8, 2019 16:07:17 GMT
Is there anybody who knows a NK board member? If so could one be so kind as to ask them to update their website. Its is always hit and miss but for the snr c'ship it is usually efficient with fixtures and results. This year however the latest match is tarbert v ballyD. No result and no further fixtures. Why dont they just take the website down rather than doing a half arsed job with it.
My gripe is compounded with the fact that not one single underage fixture or result went up this year.
Maybe it's not something many people look at but their facebook page is even worse so I have tried to keep updated with the website. They dont use Twitter effectively either.
Slightly off topic of the match but relevant I feel, Surely there is a PRO in place and if so they should either do their job or retire.
There is never a shortage of board members to take my money at gates throughout the year. I look fwd to next year hope...
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Post by An Bradán on Dec 9, 2019 0:02:36 GMT
Is there anybody who knows a NK board member? If so could one be so kind as to ask them to update their website. Its is always hit and miss but for the snr c'ship it is usually efficient with fixtures and results. This year however the latest match is tarbert v ballyD. No result and no further fixtures. Why dont they just take the website down rather than doing a half arsed job with it. My gripe is compounded with the fact that not one single underage fixture or result went up this year. Maybe it's not something many people look at but their facebook page is even worse so I have tried to keep updated with the website. They dont use Twitter effectively either. Slightly off topic of the match but relevant I feel, Surely there is a PRO in place and if so they should either do their job or retire. There is never a shortage of board members to take my money at gates throughout the year. I look fwd to next year hope... Guessing that the guy who runs the website hasn't been paid. Fairly sure this happened before. As for some of the other tiresome posts I now remember why I abandoned this forum for a long while. |
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Post by thesquareball on Dec 10, 2019 20:11:28 GMT
the standard of a lot of teams in north kerry athe moment is poor,and senans and brosna are both in the final on merit. senans have played in fits and starts over their 3 matches mixing the good with the medicore,they are missing a few of last s years panel which has weakened them but there dogged and hard to beat.Brosna played div2 league this year and will have alot of the neutral support in their bid for north kerry glory . they have some scoring forwards but their midfield is a bit one paced ,well depending who plays on sunday.Hard match to call as we re only looking in from the outside and are not privy to what will be the varibles between here and sunday
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Post by tonydorigo on Dec 12, 2019 8:36:34 GMT
Football in North Kerry not in a great state. How many North Kerry teams are making up spots in Division 4 and 5 in the county?
Ballydonoghue are nearly the most startling as they have so much talent within their team and don't seem to be doing much with it. They should be a division 2 team with the squad they have.
I think the big difference is lack of competitive schools in the area. Tarbert Comp are shocking given their numbers and pick and St. Michaels and Causeway aren't exactly powerhouses either. Compare this to East/Mid Kerry where Pres Milltown are now competing and winning at A schools level.
It's not like the talent isn't there in North Kerry. The Pobalscoil Corca Dhuidne teams that won all irelands were constantly competing against Shannon Rangers teams at the same age group but started to pull away from around the age of 16.
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Post by bannerman on Dec 12, 2019 13:09:40 GMT
Football in North Kerry not in a great state. How many North Kerry teams are making up spots in Division 4 and 5 in the county? Ballydonoghue are nearly the most startling as they have so much talent within their team and don't seem to be doing much with it. They should be a division 2 team with the squad they have. I think the big difference is lack of competitive schools in the area. Tarbert Comp are shocking given their numbers and pick and St. Michaels and Causeway aren't exactly powerhouses either. Compare this to East/Mid Kerry where Pres Milltown are now competing and winning at A schools level. It's not like the talent isn't there in North Kerry. The Pobalscoil Corca Dhuidne teams that won all irelands were constantly competing against Shannon Rangers teams at the same age group but started to pull away from around the age of 16. Ballydonoghue will be in Division 2 for 2020, but I agree they should be doing better in county junior championship, the underage success at high level in underage over the last number years has not moved to senior glory. have they lost some of that underage batch |
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Dec 12, 2019 13:24:40 GMT
Football in North Kerry not in a great state. How many North Kerry teams are making up spots in Division 4 and 5 in the county? Ballydonoghue are nearly the most startling as they have so much talent within their team and don't seem to be doing much with it. They should be a division 2 team with the squad they have. I think the big difference is lack of competitive schools in the area. Tarbert Comp are shocking given their numbers and pick and St. Michaels and Causeway aren't exactly powerhouses either. Compare this to East/Mid Kerry where Pres Milltown are now competing and winning at A schools level. It's not like the talent isn't there in North Kerry. The Pobalscoil Corca Dhuidne teams that won all irelands were constantly competing against Shannon Rangers teams at the same age group but started to pull away from around the age of 16. Ballydonoghue will be in Division 2 for 2020, but I agree they should be doing better in county junior championship, the underage success at high level in underage over the last number years has not moved to senior glory. have they lost some of that underage batch But getting to Div 2, for a team that spent a lot of time in Div 5, is success. I dont think they have underachieved as some of the recent Junior winners like Templenoe & Na Gaeil are definitely better than them |
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