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Post by john4 on Aug 25, 2019 18:33:13 GMT
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Post by stevieq on Aug 25, 2019 18:53:09 GMT
I'm getting seriously delusional and thinking of backing Kerry. About 33/1 for Kerry to win by 1-3 points and David Clifford to Score a goal!!! Crazy stuff! Can someone give an example of a recent match up where the under dogs overturned such red hot favourites, or are we chasing unicorns here??
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 25, 2019 18:55:02 GMT
Dublin are aiming for another 5 in a row next weekend, trying to make it 5 senior championship wins in a row over Kerry. 2011, 2013,2015, 2016... Thats cat, shocking stat...................
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 25, 2019 18:56:15 GMT
I'm getting seriously delusional and thinking of backing Kerry. About 33/1 for Kerry to win by 1-3 points and David Clifford to Score a goal!!! Crazy stuff! Can someone give an example of a recent match up where the under dogs overturned such red hot favourites, or are we chasing unicorns here?? Spotted a few Kerry players knocking around with their game faces on over the past few days.
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Post by mossie on Aug 25, 2019 20:26:23 GMT
About 33/1 for Kerry to win by 1-3 points and David Clifford to Score a goal!!! Crazy stuff! Can someone give an example of a recent match up where the under dogs overturned such red hot favourites, or are we chasing unicorns here?? Spotted a few Kerry players knocking around with their game faces on over the past few days. yeah a few to be seen in Tralee town and also attending the county hurling semi finals and final.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 25, 2019 20:27:17 GMT
For those who are put off my long articles on here, may I suggest you make an exception for mandads about a quarter the ways down page 19 here - jazus but you would never know who you'd be in the company of, and said article may well go down as the contribution of the year. As regards team selection, hard to even guess it, moreover without access to training - well maybe we can guess but that's all it is. Some even talk of when to introduce lads - sure PK wouldn't even know that. No harm in it but let's be realistic. I was chatting to a Co Down stalwart and he believes it is 50:50, and the same man calls it as he sees it, and he had a few pointers I'll keep to myself for now. Certainly NOT put off by long articles / posts. Keep them coming I suppose ok if quality there and mandad nails it, I didn't know his background and so overlooked it initially - a fatal mistake! O'Rourke has a lengthy one in today's Sindo, hedging his bets a biteen, quality there too but you'd wonder if a man of his experience shouldn't be able to unearth serious stuff, even if it was speculative, well everything is speculative when discussing this one.
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Post by mossie on Aug 25, 2019 20:31:50 GMT
Dublin are aiming for another 5 in a row next weekend, trying to make it 5 senior championship wins in a row over Kerry. 2011, 2013,2015, 2016... Thats cat, shocking stat................... * - don't like that stat either
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Post by onlykerry on Aug 26, 2019 10:37:56 GMT
Thats cat, shocking stat................... * - don't like that stat either Time to turn the tide therefore ....... Had heard some much more favourable stats - a 22 win cycle and some mumbo jumbo about the Dubs having problems with the ninth year of the decade...... And besides there are Lies, damned lies, and statistics and of course lest we forget The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose
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Post by glengael on Aug 26, 2019 10:45:31 GMT
here's another stat so...
First final involving Kerry since 1972 without one of the O'SÉ clan from Ventry on the panel.
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Post by greengold35 on Aug 26, 2019 11:23:23 GMT
Dublin are unbeaten in 35 championship games, 33 wins, 2 draws - of those 35 games, 29 have been played in Croke Park!
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 26, 2019 11:39:32 GMT
here's another stat so... First final since 1972 without one of the O'SÉ clan from Ventry on the panel. Inc 11 yr gap Paidí closed?
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Post by ciarrai4sam on Aug 26, 2019 11:42:45 GMT
Saw this tweet... Kerry have won All Ireland's in 1909, 1929, 1939, 1959, 1969, 1979 and 2009. Kerry didn't compete in the remaining finals of 1889, 1899, 1919, 1949 and 1989, 1999. We're in the final of 2019.
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Post by wicklowman on Aug 26, 2019 12:36:10 GMT
Let’s hope the sequence continues! A year ending with a 9 is the only year Kerry haven’t lost an All-Ireland. I can’t contain myself! Come in the Kingdom, the confidence increases by the day!
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Post by glengael on Aug 26, 2019 12:44:21 GMT
here's another stat so... First final since 1972 without one of the O'SÉ clan from Ventry on the panel. Inc 11 yr gap Paidí closed? Just corrected that tks.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Aug 26, 2019 13:34:16 GMT
Being honest about it I have absolutely no idea what Kerry will do on Sunday or what selection they will put out. I don't think we will deviate too much from what we have done all year to be honest and go man to man at the back.
Our attempt at having Paul Murphy play a bit deeper was a shambles in the semi final and I can't see it being repeated. I don't think it matters if we start Tommy Walsh or not. Dublin will have prepared for it. In an ideal world I would like to bring him on early in the second half to bring something different to the party and provide a focal point int he attack. I can't see him lasting 70 mins so if he starts who do we replace him with? Killain Spillane? I think if hes fit we need to put Jack Barry on Fenton. He has done well on the past but, Fenton has kicked up a notch or two this year. As Colm Parkinson says on his podcast you nearly need two lads to mark Fenton as he never seems to tire like his marker does.
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Post by oldschool on Aug 26, 2019 13:37:50 GMT
Saw this tweet... Kerry have won All Ireland's in 1909, 1929, 1939, 1959, 1969, 1979 and 2009. Kerry didn't compete in the remaining finals of 1889, 1899, 1919, 1949 and 1989, 1999. We're in the final of 2019.
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Post by oldschool on Aug 26, 2019 13:38:49 GMT
Saw this tweet... Kerry have won All Ireland's in 1909, 1929, 1939, 1959, 1969, 1979 and 2009. Kerry didn't compete in the remaining finals of 1889, 1899, 1919, 1949 and 1989, 1999. We're in the final of 2019. I like it.
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Post by onlykerry on Aug 26, 2019 14:27:25 GMT
Dublin are unbeaten in 35 championship games, 33 wins, 2 draws - of those 35 games, 29 have been played in Croke Park! 2 Draws? They drew with Mayo in 2016, what was the second one? I make it 34 unbeaten (1 Draw) and 27 at home in Croke Park - am I missing a game somewhere? Winning margins have been interesting - The six point margin against Tyrone last year was their biggest winning margin in a final. They have two 1 point wins over Mayo (one in a replay) and a 3 point margin against us in 2015. Finals have tended to be the tightest game for Dublin each campaign (last year was the exception where they only had 3 points to spare in Omagh in the S8's).
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 26, 2019 14:30:16 GMT
Dublin are unbeaten in 35 championship games, 33 wins, 2 draws - of those 35 games, 29 have been played in Croke Park! 2 Draws? They drew with Mayo in 2016, what was the second one? I make it 34 unbeaten (1 Draw) and 27 at home in Croke Park - am I missing a game somewhere? Winning margins have been interesting - The six point margin against Tyrone last year was their biggest winning margin in a final. They have two 1 point wins over Mayo (one in a replay) and a 3 point margin against us in 2015. Finals have tended to be the tightest game for Dublin each campaign (last year was the exception where they only had 3 points to spare in Omagh in the S8's). 2015 SF vs Mayo had a draw and replay.
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Post by onlykerry on Aug 26, 2019 14:35:18 GMT
2 Draws? They drew with Mayo in 2016, what was the second one? I make it 34 unbeaten (1 Draw) and 27 at home in Croke Park - am I missing a game somewhere? Winning margins have been interesting - The six point margin against Tyrone last year was their biggest winning margin in a final. They have two 1 point wins over Mayo (one in a replay) and a 3 point margin against us in 2015. Finals have tended to be the tightest game for Dublin each campaign (last year was the exception where they only had 3 points to spare in Omagh in the S8's). 2015 SF vs Mayo had a draw and replay. Missed that one!! Updated my records. Two draws it is. Mayo have really taken them to the well on a number of occassions - don't anybody try to tell me that home advantage does not matter when the chips are down.
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Post by Jo90 on Aug 26, 2019 14:48:13 GMT
I'm getting seriously delusional and thinking of backing Kerry. About 33/1 for Kerry to win by 1-3 points and David Clifford to Score a goal!!! Crazy stuff! Can someone give an example of a recent match up where the under dogs overturned such red hot favourites, or are we chasing unicorns here?? Dublin were 1/9 v Donegal in 2014. Mayo were big outsiders to beat Dublin in 2012.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Aug 26, 2019 15:44:57 GMT
Folks, Struggling for a ticket up here, I know it's early yet but of anyone has a spare please keep me in mind.. much appreciated.
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Post by greengold35 on Aug 26, 2019 15:54:25 GMT
Dublin are unbeaten in 35 championship games, 33 wins, 2 draws - of those 35 games, 29 have been played in Croke Park! 2 Draws? They drew with Mayo in 2016, what was the second one? I make it 34 unbeaten (1 Draw) and 27 at home in Croke Park - am I missing a game somewhere? Winning margins have been interesting - The six point margin against Tyrone last year was their biggest winning margin in a final. They have two 1 point wins over Mayo (one in a replay) and a 3 point margin against us in 2015. Finals have tended to be the tightest game for Dublin each campaign (last year was the exception where they only had 3 points to spare in Omagh in the S8's). Mayo both times, '15 & '16 - semi final in '15 ( 2-12 to Mayo's 1-15), final in '16 ( 2-09 to Mayo's 0-15)>
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Post by MeathExile on Aug 26, 2019 16:14:33 GMT
My commute to work takes me through Swords in north Dublin. You would not know they were in a final up here - only 1 house in a 15 mile drive that has a Dublin flag up. Whats it like in the Kingdom?
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Post by pillar on Aug 26, 2019 16:24:40 GMT
Lad in yesterday's Sunday Times reckoned that if Kerry beat Dublin itll be the biggest shock in the 130 odd year history of the GAA. Are we really that far off them??
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Post by Kingdomson on Aug 26, 2019 16:40:51 GMT
Lad in yesterday's Sunday Times reckoned that if Kerry beat Dublin itll be the biggest shock in the 130 odd year history of the GAA. Are we really that far off them?? The lad who wrote it hasn't seen much then and must have been born post-2000 or on the other hand having seen all 130 odd years of GAA history, the poor chap has gone senile.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 26, 2019 16:41:00 GMT
My commute to work takes me through Swords in north Dublin. You would not know they were in a final up here - only 1 house in a 15 mile drive that has a Dublin flag up. Whats it like in the Kingdom? In other words the Dublin players ain't gonna get caught up in any hype.
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Post by jackiel on Aug 26, 2019 16:44:47 GMT
Well I'm in Ashbourne which is Meath and I'm surrounded by them. My neighbour opposite who doesn't attend any matches has the house (Old Trafford) decked out with bunting and massive flags.
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Post by Kingdomson on Aug 26, 2019 16:55:32 GMT
1982 of course is right up there in Kerry and All Ireland football history as one of the most high profile shocks in the history of the game. Some of the younger generation might find this hard to believe but for those of us old enough to have witnessed the 1991 defeat of Cork by Kerry, it was an enormous shock.
No one gave a Kerry team down in the doldrums a chance in hell against the seasoned, much stronger and double winning All Ireland Champions. No one saw it coming given the humiliating hiding we had received in 1990 and a very limited Kerry team of has beens, some junior footballers, some mediocre players at best, a couple of kids, and the magic of Maurice Fitzgerald put in one of the most defiant Kerry performances I’ve ever witnessed. I‘ve seen that same spirit of defiance from Kerry on a few occasions and most recently down in Limerick in 2014 when we simply refused to yield. The Kerry spirit of 91' is needed on Sunday!
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Post by greengold35 on Aug 26, 2019 17:02:43 GMT
Lad in yesterday's Sunday Times reckoned that if Kerry beat Dublin itll be the biggest shock in the 130 odd year history of the GAA. Are we really that far off them?? Not at all - plenty of shocks in this rivalry - ‘55, ‘75, ‘78 ( Dubs going for 3 in a row), ‘09 . He should get out more!
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