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Post by Mickmack on Jun 13, 2020 10:24:15 GMT
Interesting debate.
I wasnt aware of John Mitchells slavery activities. The bit i knew i learned from the history taught to me in primary school.
Bill Clinton is a hero of mine so i bought the two books on him by Nigel Hamilton. I was shocked at the systematic advantage taken of women by a powerful man who is surely one of the great inclusive presidents ever.
Martin Luther King is reputed to have said that if "he didnt have a woman" everyday he got a headache. Where does that lie with his "I have a dream" speech.
I think there is a problem with trying to apply todays standards to yesteryear.
In 25 years time, reeling in the years will show the "direct provision" system of 2020. No doubt we will look back at it and wonder why people said nothing.
Will pictures of todays justice minister be pulled down in 2045?
Generally speaking i hate the way social media whips people up into a frenzy.
It can lead to things like Brexit, PM Johnson and President Trump.
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Post by mandad on Jun 13, 2020 11:21:20 GMT
A timely reminder this week from Dr. Mary McAuliffe (Duagh) of the need to moderate our discourse during the upcoming Centenary of the Civil War of 1922-23. As she points out, this was particularly bitter here in Kerry and negatively impacted practically every family in one way or another. It will be a period where the concept of Political Correctness, in all its manifestations, will be particularly relevant.
Many individuals go to emotional arguments quickly in articulating their own beliefs. Our discourse around that disastrous period in our history, typically, is not civilized, is not compassionate, and it’s only gotten more debased in the 70 plus years I’ve been on this planet.
Now that someone has poked a stick at John Mitchell we get a glimpse of how easy it is to get to the point where difficult topics cannot be openly discussed without being accused of some sort of "ism". 100 years might seem like a long time but, in reality, some of those old sores are still very raw and polarising. The upcoming Centenary is a period we to be very measured in our utterings.
The good people of Boherbee were not a bunch of racists when the club was founded - for one thing the concept didn't even exist then. Tóg bog é - we can't rewrite history just because a great many people from the past were unacceptable by today's standards. What’s going on in the U.S. is such a non-stop horror show that it’s anyone’s guess what it will throw up next.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2020 11:44:58 GMT
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 13, 2020 11:47:08 GMT
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Post by Galway breeze on Jun 13, 2020 12:21:11 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 13, 2020 12:56:57 GMT
1 The GAA are putting together plans for the 2020 championship. Brendan Moran / SPORTSFILE
Colm Keys June 13 2020 10:26 AM The GAA’s Central Competition Controls Committee (CCCC) is advancing plans for the inter-county season with the aim of completing it in the same calendar year and finishing out the remaining league games on the first two weekends available, October 17/18 and October 24/25.
The Irish Independent understands that CCCC is working on the principle of getting All-Ireland hurling and football finals played in 2020 which could potentially mean a football final on the weekend of December 19/20, the last available window before Christmas.
GAA president John Horan had intimated on a couple of occasions that a championship could run into 2021, even as far in as February. But that now seems unlikely.
CCCC is also working on the principle of giving a minimum two games to every county in football and hurling. However, in football – with the decision now taken to complete the leagues on those dates – one of those two guaranteed games will be in the league.
As a result, there could be a split in formats with the hurling championship having qualifiers that would offer two games but the football championship operating as a straight knockout because of time constraints that they are keen to adhere to.
The provincial hurling championships, preliminary quarter-finals in Munster and Leinster, are now likely to start on the weekend of October 24/25, in tandem with the other hurling tiers. Hurling qualifiers may prove quite complex and could take three rounds to establish quarter-finalists.
The Gaelic Players Association (GPA) was due to close off a poll on preferences of its membership Friday evening with projections that a same-year completion with a second chance would be favoured.
But with the first two weekends being set aside for the remaining league games, it leaves just eight available weekends before Christmas for a format that requires nine weekends minimum to complete; thus the potential for different championship formats for football and hurling.
Meanwhile, Wexford have clarified that it was a full county board meeting and not their Competition Controls Committee (CCC) that met on Wednesday night to decide on local championship formats.
There has been much speculation that a Sunday, August 23 conclusion to the hurling championship, taking just over three weeks to complete, is being favoured but no dates have been firmed up until the national fixtures plan is released, while the provision for quarter-finals is also an option which would push back the date of the final
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jun 14, 2020 13:35:18 GMT
Anyone have an Indo sub?, would like to read this, so bored - Another fine mess will see us having a drink and a haircut before we can playBTW I wonder will we be having shock results when playing resumes, a nag came in yesterday at 200/1? An interesting decision by the GAA to remove the fixtures from their web site, anyone have any idea what games would be played today? Maybe we could discuss who would have won if we knew who was playing - well we have feck all else to talk about!
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Post by shaggy04 on Jun 14, 2020 16:08:56 GMT
While were on the subject of racism,changing the name of clubs and all that /
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2020 19:44:18 GMT
Think I read somewhere that club championship will start early August with county championship starting after with the final October 4th.
On the intercounty side, it looks like championship will start early November
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jun 15, 2020 11:19:06 GMT
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jun 19, 2020 10:05:01 GMT
So sad re GAA man Colm Horkan and who's dream was for Mayo to win Sam in his lifetime, RIP.
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Post by shaggy04 on Jun 20, 2020 8:07:34 GMT
Will the GAA fixtures be brought forward now that restrictions are lifted
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Post by sullyschoice on Jun 20, 2020 9:02:02 GMT
Will the GAA fixtures be brought forward now that restrictions are lifted Inter county wont is what I have heard. It stays the same.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jun 20, 2020 9:58:31 GMT
Will the GAA fixtures be brought forward now that restrictions are lifted Hopefully. I read somewhere that that GAA medical advisory group for return to play are meeting next week to decide. I would like them to allow contact training from the 29th of June instead of 20th of July and allow club matches from 17th July instead of from the 31st July. Give extra time for club matches, the inter county schedule should stay the same.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 20, 2020 11:14:37 GMT
will the u20 happen at all i wonder.... a rematch of that classic minor final between Kerry and Galway was something i was hoping for.
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Post by shaggy04 on Jun 20, 2020 16:25:24 GMT
The following changes to the return to activity guidelines are being made after recommendations from this morning’s Covid-19 Advisory Committee. These changes were subsequently endorsed by the GAA, the Camogie Association and the LGFA. This week: Open pitches for Adult training next Wednesday, June 24th. Open for Minor and below from Saturday, June 27th. Both of the above on a non-contact basis and on the understanding that players and all participants have completed the eLearning module and are following the control measures in place (health questionnaire etc). On the basis of a maximum of 15 players in a designated area of the field (26 Counties) and 10 players in a designated area of the field (6 Counties). Coaching numbers for underage teams to be consistent with Code of Behaviour. From June 29th: Allow contact training and challenge games for all from Monday, June 29th (26 Counties). We await guidance from the NI Executive in relation to 6 Counties – non-contact training in the numbers outlined above in the interim. We also await clarification on what will constitute a close contact versus a casual contact. Restriction on participants-only attending training sessions to be relaxed from June 29th – subject to government specified maximum of 200 people in the ground. Allow Club Fixtures from Friday July 17th. No change to inter-county dates (Sept 14th for training; competitions to start on Oct 17th as planned). All control measures for players, coaches and other team personnel (completion of health questionnaire, eLearning education etc) is to remain in place until advised otherwise; dressing rooms to remain closed until July 20th The Advisory Committee is considering the position in relation to other GAA buildings (such as Club bars that are serving food, Gyms, Handball alleys etc). Guidance will be provided in this context before June 29th.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jun 20, 2020 22:55:59 GMT
will the u20 happen at all i wonder.... a rematch of that classic minor final between Kerry and Galway was something i was hoping for. The u20 championship will resume in October the same time as the minor and senior championships.
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Post by kodie on Jun 23, 2020 12:44:55 GMT
Any news from County Board Meeting last night?
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Post by glengael on Jun 25, 2020 11:47:43 GMT
The following changes to the return to activity guidelines are being made after recommendations from this morning’s Covid-19 Advisory Committee. These changes were subsequently endorsed by the GAA, the Camogie Association and the LGFA. This week: Open pitches for Adult training next Wednesday, June 24th. Open for Minor and below from Saturday, June 27th. Both of the above on a non-contact basis and on the understanding that players and all participants have completed the eLearning module and are following the control measures in place (health questionnaire etc). On the basis of a maximum of 15 players in a designated area of the field (26 Counties) and 10 players in a designated area of the field (6 Counties). Coaching numbers for underage teams to be consistent with Code of Behaviour. From June 29th: Allow contact training and challenge games for all from Monday, June 29th (26 Counties). We await guidance from the NI Executive in relation to 6 Counties – non-contact training in the numbers outlined above in the interim. We also await clarification on what will constitute a close contact versus a casual contact. Restriction on participants-only attending training sessions to be relaxed from June 29th – subject to government specified maximum of 200 people in the ground. Allow Club Fixtures from Friday July 17th. All control measures for players, coaches and other team personnel (completion of health questionnaire, eLearning education etc) is to remain in place until advised otherwise; dressing rooms to remain closed until July 20th The Advisory Committee is considering the position in relation to other GAA buildings (such as Club bars that are serving food, Gyms, Handball alleys etc). Guidance will be provided in this context before June 29th. I presume 200 maximum includes both teams and their retinues and officials? (if they follow the indoor wedding precedent where hotel staff etc are included in total allowed). So the actual number of spectators will be fewer than 200. Happy the stewards counting at all entrances and sending people away when 150 quota or whatever it is reached.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 25, 2020 15:42:15 GMT
Wouldnt it be great if the GAA decreed that social distancing means that each team must keep 7 players in their own half at all times during games....
The end of the blanket and maybe even a bit of "kicking the ball" might ensue.
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Post by Galway breeze on Jun 25, 2020 16:06:19 GMT
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Post by jackiel on Jun 25, 2020 20:23:18 GMT
The following changes to the return to activity guidelines are being made after recommendations from this morning’s Covid-19 Advisory Committee. These changes were subsequently endorsed by the GAA, the Camogie Association and the LGFA. This week: Open pitches for Adult training next Wednesday, June 24th. Open for Minor and below from Saturday, June 27th. Both of the above on a non-contact basis and on the understanding that players and all participants have completed the eLearning module and are following the control measures in place (health questionnaire etc). On the basis of a maximum of 15 players in a designated area of the field (26 Counties) and 10 players in a designated area of the field (6 Counties). Coaching numbers for underage teams to be consistent with Code of Behaviour. From June 29th: Allow contact training and challenge games for all from Monday, June 29th (26 Counties). We await guidance from the NI Executive in relation to 6 Counties – non-contact training in the numbers outlined above in the interim. We also await clarification on what will constitute a close contact versus a casual contact. Restriction on participants-only attending training sessions to be relaxed from June 29th – subject to government specified maximum of 200 people in the ground. Allow Club Fixtures from Friday July 17th. All control measures for players, coaches and other team personnel (completion of health questionnaire, eLearning education etc) is to remain in place until advised otherwise; dressing rooms to remain closed until July 20th The Advisory Committee is considering the position in relation to other GAA buildings (such as Club bars that are serving food, Gyms, Handball alleys etc). Guidance will be provided in this context before June 29th. I presume 200 maximum includes both teams and their retinues and officials? (if they follow the indoor wedding precedent where hotel staff etc are included in total allowed). So the actual number of spectators will be fewer than 200. Happy the stewards counting at all entrances and sending people away when 150 quota or whatever it is reached. I've spoken to a lot of my Croke Park stewarding colleagues, because of their age some don't intend going back for the forseeable. The age profile of the stewards is generally quite high, seems much the same around the country so it might be harder to get volunteers, a good time to recruit some youngsgters.
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Post by glengael on Jun 26, 2020 10:53:28 GMT
I think you're spot on Jackiel.
The GAA and many other organisations are reliant on a loyal brigade who continue to do much of the non-glory work. I've met a few of the 'Look at Me and my mighty works now uploaded to social media' brigade over the past few weeks, full of ideas of what the GAA should be doing but no intention of actually doing anything except criticising.
(I am a volunteer of middle years who does non-glory jobs and intend to continue doing so for as long as I can safely do so).
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Post by Fado on Jun 26, 2020 16:03:59 GMT
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Post by southward on Jun 26, 2020 20:48:44 GMT
Foolish to have the All-Ireland clash with the North Kerry Championship; only one winner there
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 26, 2020 21:55:20 GMT
IrishExaminerOpen Menu
Kerry will honour their home and away arrangement with Cork for November’s Munster SFC semi-final, a knockout fixture to be played at Páirc Uí Chaoimh which will spell the end of one team’s interest in the championship.
Although the venue for the Munster semi-final on November 7/8 has yet to be confirmed by the Central Competitions Control Committee, it is widely expected the game will take place at Páirc Uí Chaoimh.
Learn more Kerry county board chairman Tim Murphy said this afternoon Kerry have no issue upholding their home and away arrangement for what will be a winner-takes-all contest on Leeside.
The Cork footballers travelled to Killarney on three occasions while Páirc Uí Chaoimh was being redeveloped between 2015 and 2017. The first of those visits to Fitzgerald Stadium was for the 2015 Munster final, a fixture Kerry would have hosted irrespective of Páirc Uí Chaoimh's availability given the previous year’s meeting between the counties was played at the old Ballintemple venue.
The 2015 Munster final replay and the 2017 provincial decider were also played at Fitzgerald Stadium, meaning Kerry owed Cork two home games when Páirc Uí Chaoimh reopened.
That debt was paid in 2018 and 2019, with the longstanding home and away arrangement between the counties kicking back in this year, under which it is Cork's turn to play host.
Cork and Kerry last met in a knockout provincial fixture in 2000, a Munster semi-final in Killarney which the Kingdom won with five to spare.
“My understanding is that it is still intended to be played at Páirc Uí Chaoimh, but because of the unknown or what might or might not happen in terms of restrictions or unforeseen events, the CCCC are reserving the right to decide [the venue] closer to the time. But assuming everything remains as is, the game will be going ahead at Páirc Uí Chaoimh and absolutely, we will honour our agreement with Cork,” said Kerry chairman Murphy.
He welcomed the decision to conclude the league before the knockout All-Ireland championship throws in.
“It makes perfect sense to play off those two league games in October. Rather than counties having to look for challenge games, it is a perfect opportunity to finish the league and get that level of competition in before championship. That is very welcome.
“Also, it is great to see the All-Ireland U20 championship being finished.”
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Post by dc84 on Jun 27, 2020 9:16:43 GMT
Wouldnt it be great if the GAA decreed that social distancing means that each team must keep 7 players in their own half at all times during games.... The end of the blanket and maybe even a bit of "kicking the ball" might ensue. Surely you mean the oppositions?
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 27, 2020 19:49:50 GMT
Jack McCaffrey has "stepped away" from inter county scene according to reports
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 21:17:14 GMT
Big loss to Dublin, Unbelievable footballer and very impressive person.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 27, 2020 21:30:37 GMT
I could be well wide of the mark with this ....
but seeing as Jack is a doctor and since there is now depressing talk of an "inevitable second wave of covid" later this year....
maybe he simply sees the chances of inter county action this year as being somewhat remote.
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