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Post by veteran on Nov 10, 2024 13:15:01 GMT
Clubber have run away with themselves in recent times. Increasing their prices but not actually adding to the service. Does anyone know are they a Kerry based company? Not Kerry. Tipperary I think. I will be reluctant to pay €15 again. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Nov 10, 2024 13:54:07 GMT
Clubber have run away with themselves in recent times. Increasing their prices but not actually adding to the service. Does anyone know are they a Kerry based company? Not Kerry. Tipperary I think. I will be reluctant to pay €15 again. Enjoyable game so far, I purchased it to watch the Kerry prospects. With that in mind, Mark O Shea having a good game. Charlie Keating having a good game beside him. Evan Looney solid. They need to fix the main commentators mic. He's shouting into the mic is awful to listen too. |
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Post by Premier on Nov 10, 2024 13:56:29 GMT
Clubber have run away with themselves in recent times. Increasing their prices but not actually adding to the service. Does anyone know are they a Kerry based company? I think the year’s subscription is probably worth it with the amount of games they show. Club champ, county champ, divisional, county league, Corn Ui Mhuiri. Munster club. There’s a lot there really. I think having the 2 co commentators today was an extra layer they have added which is good to get the Cork perspective too |
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Post by veteran on Nov 10, 2024 15:22:44 GMT
A well deserved win by Dr. Crokes. I don’t think the sending off of Brian Hurley unduly impacted the game. While Crokes sparkled at times , on other occasions they were sloppy and casual , thus making life more difficult than it should have been.
I felt the sending off was justified . Brian Hurley jumped into young McMahon when making the tackle , as a result of which he had to be replaced. I felt the tackle warranted a straight red but I am not if it was a red or a second yellow. If a second yellow , it illustrates once more how a getting a silly first yellow can be so costly later on. As far as I can recall the first yellow was for moaning at the referee. A futile exercise.
I thought the penalty against Shane Murphy was harsh. Usually in those circumstances a free out is awarded and may have been the decision today as well if Crokes were not comfortably ahead at the time. The commentator suggested that the penalty was awarded because Shane did not release the ball. That sounds like a rugby interpretation. I am not sure how we could have released the ball in the ruck situation that developed.
In any case, delighted for Crokes.
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Post by The16thMan on Nov 10, 2024 15:45:30 GMT
Well deserved win for Crokes, controlled the 2nd half well. Kept the scoreboard ticking when they needed to. Every time Castlehaven closed the gap by a few points Crokes went up and got their own scores to extend the lead.
2 penalties, both fair in my opinion. Shane Murphy lied on the ball and handled on the ground for Castlehaven's penalty, which you cannot do. Especially if there is no foul. Could have even have been over the line already but hard to tell.
Brian Hurley recieved a straight red for what looked a heavy tackle on Cian McMahon who went off with a shoulder injury from that tackle and will now be fighting a battle to be fit for the semi final I'd imagine.
** I saw 1 or 2 people complaining that Crokes' club ground was too small for the crowd that came in the end, maybe 1 or 2 people who were there can give their opinions, as I wasn't. Personally I think smaller grounds are the way forward but it's probably a different case when there's not enough standing/sitting room to meet the crowd in attendance **
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Post by blacksheep21 on Nov 10, 2024 16:38:55 GMT
Very good win for Crokes. Well deserved although I think it was a bit closer than the scoreline would suggest. Playing this at a club venue really adds to the occasion. Crokes had the little touch of extra class. White really set the tone for Crokes and influential in defence and attack.
From a Kerry prospects perspective, Looney and Shaw are the two main one’s for me. I have seen a fair bit of Mark O Shea and don’t think he is at the required level to be honest but that is just my opinion.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Nov 10, 2024 17:34:56 GMT
Very good win for Crokes. Well deserved although I think it was a bit closer than the scoreline would suggest. Playing this at a club venue really adds to the occasion. Crokes had the little touch of extra class. White really set the tone for Crokes and influential in defence and attack. From a Kerry prospects perspective, Looney and Shaw are the two main one’s for me. I have seen a fair bit of Mark O Shea and don’t think he is at the required level to be honest but that is just my opinion. I haven't seen enough of Mark OShea but I felt today and against Dingle he was solid. Given our lack of depth in midfield and the loss of Burke we should be giving him a run. As for Shaw I don't see him as a inside forward based on what I've seen. Interestingly he was much better today when he came out to midfield. Would he be an option out around the middle. |
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Post by blacksheep21 on Nov 10, 2024 17:40:28 GMT
Very good win for Crokes. Well deserved although I think it was a bit closer than the scoreline would suggest. Playing this at a club venue really adds to the occasion. Crokes had the little touch of extra class. White really set the tone for Crokes and influential in defence and attack. From a Kerry prospects perspective, Looney and Shaw are the two main one’s for me. I have seen a fair bit of Mark O Shea and don’t think he is at the required level to be honest but that is just my opinion. I haven't seen enough of Mark OShea but I felt today and against Dingle he was solid. Given our lack of depth in midfield and the loss of Burke we should be giving him a run. As for Shaw I don't see him as a inside forward based on what I've seen. Interestingly he was much better today when he came out to midfield. Would he be an option out around the middle. I agree with most of this but there are others I would like to see get a run in midfield also such as Sean O Brien, Sean O Connell, Darragh Lyne and Liam Smith. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Nov 10, 2024 17:59:26 GMT
I haven't seen enough of Mark OShea but I felt today and against Dingle he was solid. Given our lack of depth in midfield and the loss of Burke we should be giving him a run. As for Shaw I don't see him as a inside forward based on what I've seen. Interestingly he was much better today when he came out to midfield. Would he be an option out around the middle. I agree with most of this but there are others I would like to see get a run in midfield also such as Sean O Brien, Sean O Connell, Darragh Lyne and Liam Smith. Funny and his name eludes me now the Crokes man after the game said Mark was the best midfielder in Kerry and should he playing national league ! |
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Post by The16thMan on Nov 10, 2024 18:11:11 GMT
I agree with most of this but there are others I would like to see get a run in midfield also such as Sean O Brien, Sean O Connell, Darragh Lyne and Liam Smith. Funny and his name eludes me now the Crokes man after the game said Mark was the best midfielder in Kerry and should he playing national league ! I think this was Niall 'Botty' O'Callaghan's comment on clubber post game. Certainly wouldn't be like a Crokes man to talk up their own anyways 😅. In my opinion he wouldn't be near Diarmuid O'Connor or Joe O'Connor at the moment and possibly 1 or 2 that have been named in above comments would be above Mark also. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Nov 10, 2024 18:11:30 GMT
A question for the crokes lads on here,
Why do they think Mark OShea has not featured for Kerry.
Given he's not a young lad at 26.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Nov 10, 2024 18:12:13 GMT
Funny and his name eludes me now the Crokes man after the game said Mark was the best midfielder in Kerry and should he playing national league ! I think this was Niall 'Botty' O'Callaghan's comment on clubber post game. Certainly wouldn't be like a Crokes man to talk up their own anyways 😅. In my opinion he wouldn't be near Diarmuid O'Connor or Joe O'Connor at the moment and possibly 1 or 2 that have been named in above comments would be above Mark also. Botty... I couldn't think of it 🤣 |
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Post by blacksheep21 on Nov 10, 2024 18:16:22 GMT
I think this was Niall 'Botty' O'Callaghan's comment on clubber post game. Certainly wouldn't be like a Crokes man to talk up their own anyways 😅. In my opinion he wouldn't be near Diarmuid O'Connor or Joe O'Connor at the moment and possibly 1 or 2 that have been named in above comments would be above Mark also. Botty... I couldn't think of it 🤣 Crokes never lack confidence anyway😂 |
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Post by mike70 on Nov 10, 2024 18:39:24 GMT
Mark has been around kerry squads previously, in fairness he was coming up short. I am a fan and I think he needs a run during the league for sure, just be concerned about his work rate for inter county, but let’s hope he gets his day out.
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Post by mainevalley on Nov 10, 2024 18:47:46 GMT
I think mark is actually a better footballer than joe o Connor but ye are right to question he's work rate and physique for intercounty. Unfortunately we won't see the best of him in the national league as it's played in wintery conditions, he's more a top of the ground player. I'd love to see him with Kerry playing around April/ May as that's the right time of year for him. I think he would be great squad player for Kerry
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Nov 10, 2024 19:36:51 GMT
I think Mark O’Shea is definitely worth having in the mix. Mark dominated the midfield in the first half today. I think he’s superior to Joe O’Connor when it comes to real midfield play. I’d also have Sean O’Connell, I think they are ahead of the other names mentione like Liam Smith and Sean O’Brien. Charlie Keating is a dynamic option at midfield but could do with another year or two of refining his skills. Darragh Lyne more suited to wing forward. I’d be intrigued by what David Shaw could bring at midfield for Kerry as well. That would be outside the box thinking though that we rarely see from Jack O’Connor.
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Post by veteran on Nov 10, 2024 21:18:09 GMT
In my post match comments earlier I forgot to mention what was the highlight of the match for me. As an old timer , nothing stirs my soul more than high fielding. It was much more prevalent in times gone by but in spite of that I rarely saw then what I saw today. I refer to Charlie Keating’s one handed catch in the first half. A feat of splendour.
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Post by The16thMan on Nov 10, 2024 22:32:55 GMT
I think Mark O’Shea is definitely worth having in the mix. Mark dominated the midfield in the first half today. I think he’s superior to Joe O’Connor when it comes to real midfield play. I’d also have Sean O’Connell, I think they are ahead of the other names mentione like Liam Smith and Sean O’Brien. Charlie Keating is a dynamic option at midfield but could do with another year or two of refining his skills. Darragh Lyne more suited to wing forward. I’d be intrigued by what David Shaw could bring at midfield for Kerry as well. That would be outside the box thinking though that we rarely see from Jack O’Connor. The only misfortune is Joe O'Connor will be likely playing with Stacks after Christmas which would have normally given Mark a chance for first 1 or 2 rounds unless Jack Barry returns. However, I would be expecting Crokes to also be playing after Christmas in a semifinal versus the winners of Ulster which would prevent Mark getting a run out before Joe in a Kerry shirt come the league. |
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Post by mossie on Nov 11, 2024 0:55:08 GMT
huge crowd at the Crokes match
Damien Cahalane was a huge loss for Castlehaven in that he didnt start, really made his presence felt when he came on. A warrior like his father
I was surpised Crokes took off Charlie Keating, he had a few scores taken and was in the game
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Post by paudief on Nov 11, 2024 8:27:54 GMT
Lovely story in the Indo yesterday about Tony Brosnan and his brother.
Brotherly love at the heart of Tony and Stephen Brosnan’s journey with Dr Crokes
Kerry and Dr. Crokes forward Tony Brosnan (centre) with his brother Stephen (right), who is stats man for the Killarney champions, and their father Tommy.
Niall McIntyre
Yesterday at 02:30
A clip did the rounds recently of the closing stages of the Kerry SFC county final showing Stephen Brosnan giving instructions to the Dr Crokes team, before embracing the manager Pat O’Shea, safe in the knowledge that the game was won. That’s nothing new to the Dr Crokes players, with Stephen regularly giving them speeches and instructions from the sideline, as a key member of the management team. Tony Brosnan, in particular, is hugely influenced by his big brother, who has Down Syndrome. Both will have a big role to play when Dr Crokes take on Castlehaven in the Munster club championship today (1.15). Tony is the talismanic forward who spearheads their attack and his older brother Stephen is the stats man. The pair grew up kicking the ball together at the Crokes field, honing their skills with their father Tommy. Stephen played alongside Tommy in a junior game in recent years but he hung up the boots, according to Tony, because “he wanted to get into management – and those are his words!” He continues: “It’s great having Stephen involved. If you asked him, he would tell you he’s the main guy that brings it all together, with Pat the next most important person.” Stephen endears himself to the Dr Crokes players in many different ways, such as giving a man-of-the-match award after every game, in the form of a banana, lightening the mood. “There were a few questions asked though when I was getting it, even when I might not have been playing. He has started carrying around this blue book lately but nobody knows what he has been writing in it. It’s things like that. “He’s just so good to have around the dressing room, even for me, having my brother there is always special.”
Pat O’Shea is a legendary member of the Killarney club, having won an All-Ireland as Kerry manager in 2007 and one with Dr Crokes in 2017. They called on him at the start of the season having gone six years without winning the Kerry title and he delivered again, following up the league and club championships with the big one — the Bishop Moynihan Cup.
O’Shea rarely does interviews, instead passing those responsibilities onto his selectors, but his players can’t praise him enough, with Micheál Burns describing him recently as the “Pep Guardiola of Gaelic football”.
“Pat is just Mr Crokes,” Burns said. “It’s hard to describe him, but he’s a bit of a crazy genius. He goes into every single detail — knowing when to create space, when to take on the man, where to kick it, when not to kick it.
“He keeps to himself, but he’s Crokes through and through. He could have managed countless counties, but this [Dr Crokes] is his bread and butter, this is what he loves.”
Having ‘Stevo’ involved has proved another master stroke. “That video of him and Pat doing the rounds was special to see, we would be related to Pat and the way he treats him is unbelievable,” Brosnan says.
“Having Stephen in the dressing room or on the team bus going to games relaxes me. He loves being the funniest man in the room so he’s always joking with the lads.
“But he has a serious side too if anyone steps out of line. Sometimes emotions get the better of him when he’s on the line, getting into a bit of trouble, but I enjoy that because it’s his passion for football coming out.”
Having been one of the top-scoring club players in Kerry for years, shooting the lights out ever since breaking onto the Crokes scene in 2016, Brosnan finally nailed a starting spot on the Kerry team this year.
He was one of their key forwards, scoring 0-11 throughout the championship before carrying that form into the club season. His brother isn’t happy that he’s never been brought to Kerry training, but he makes sure his opinions are heard by Jack O’Connor.
“He’s always writing out teams on a piece of paper for me to give to Jack,” Brosnan says.
“You could say we are on this journey together. A big part of football for me growing up was going to Crokes, kicking points with my dad and Stephen.”
Crokes’ county final win was their 14th, moving them to the top of the roll of honour in the county. They also have a rich tradition beyond Kerry with eight Munster championships and two All-Irelands, with the absence of the likes of Kilmacud Crokes and Watty Graham’s Glen heightening the sense of opportunity for all the clubs that remain in the running this year.
But it’s one step at a time and reigning Munster champions Castlehaven will have belief of their own. They’ve just won a second Cork title in a row, with Brian Hurley and Jack Cahalane outstanding throughout the championship. They have the Cahalanes and the Hurleys — Crokes have the Brosnans.
“We have our fights like all brothers, but you could never stay mad at him,” Tony says. “I look up to Stephen because he’s my older brother but just as a person, the way he carries himself and how much passion he shows for life and football.
“I was looking back on photos and videos from the county final win and some of the photos I have of him are heart-warming, and they’re memories my family will always have.”
When it comes to the Brosnans of Dr Crokes, it really is a team effort.
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Post by tribeofciar on Nov 11, 2024 9:28:55 GMT
Well deserved win for Crokes, controlled the 2nd half well. Kept the scoreboard ticking when they needed to. Every time Castlehaven closed the gap by a few points Crokes went up and got their own scores to extend the lead. 2 penalties, both fair in my opinion. Shane Murphy lied on the ball and handled on the ground for Castlehaven's penalty, which you cannot do. Especially if there is no foul. Could have even have been over the line already but hard to tell. Brian Hurley recieved a straight red for what looked a heavy tackle on Cian McMahon who went off with a shoulder injury from that tackle and will now be fighting a battle to be fit for the semi final I'd imagine. ** I saw 1 or 2 people complaining that Crokes' club ground was too small for the crowd that came in the end, maybe 1 or 2 people who were there can give their opinions, as I wasn't. Personally I think smaller grounds are the way forward but it's probably a different case when there's not enough standing/sitting room to meet the crowd in attendance ** I was sitting in the stand yesterday, which was full and the terrace on the far side was nearly full also. But there was still room for another few hundred from what I could see. In fairness to Castlehaven they brought a big crowd. The game would have been lost in Fitzgerald stadium IMO |
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Nov 12, 2024 6:36:57 GMT
Lovely story about Tony & his brother and it’s a lovely touch by Crokes to involve Stephen.
It’s these kind of relationships that sustain a club and help you to remember that there will always be support for you with your own.
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Post by sullyschoice on Nov 14, 2024 0:14:28 GMT
I see Dubs have called in Eoin O Donnell from their hurlers into the football squad. They did that 2 years ago and it didn't work out well. He broke Con O Callaghans foot in his first training session and got about 10 minutes game time in the league
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Post by mossie on Nov 14, 2024 0:27:01 GMT
I see Dubs have called in Eoin O Donnell from their hurlers into the football squad. They did that 2 years ago and it didn't work out well. He broke Con O Callaghans foot in his first training session and got about 10 minutes game time in the league you sure about that re 2 years ago? Yes he was called in but it was apres league after the Dublin hurlers were knocked out of the championship so he actually wasnt even in the panel during the league |
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Post by sullyschoice on Nov 15, 2024 9:53:54 GMT
I meant championship not league.
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Post by hurlingman on Nov 15, 2024 11:15:28 GMT
I see Dubs have called in Eoin O Donnell from their hurlers into the football squad. They did that 2 years ago and it didn't work out well. He broke Con O Callaghans foot in his first training session and got about 10 minutes game time in the league It happens to Dublin a lot. I'll never understand though why someone would be fine to make up the numbers on the football panel when they're unlikely to get much game. I remember soon after Darragh retired in had an article saying how lads being happy with being number 30 on the Kerry panel and not pushing on. |
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Post by hurlingman on Nov 16, 2024 19:36:58 GMT
Darren Gleeson has resigned as Laois manager as he is to undergo cancer treatment.
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Post by southward on Nov 16, 2024 19:58:52 GMT
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Post by glengael on Nov 18, 2024 15:46:09 GMT
Nicky Quaid gone for Limerick with ACL injury. Big chance for someone else to step up.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Nov 18, 2024 21:47:11 GMT
Chrissy McKeague retired.
Big loss for Derry.
Big blow for Tally.
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