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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 21:03:48 GMT
Great game of football. Kerry i felt just about deserved to win. Very fast attacking play and moved the ball very quickly. Our sloppy passsing was punished by a kerry score usually from a free time and time again, Kerry clearly targeted our back line by putting in high balls , they got some joy but near the end we started to cope with it. There is no doubt the talent is there and Kerry are a real threat this year. . Strangely i feel this game will benefit Dublin and Kerry . It will give Kerry lads belief going forward and Dublin will be bursting a gut now to get a shot at Kerry again, especially with the melee at the end and then being booed off. On a side note and this is not sour grapes, because i know we have our own beauts in Hill 16. But at the end of the game My young daughter asked me why all the Kerry Supporters were booing Dublin as they walked off the pitch instead of being happy that their team had won. It was a pity as the atmosphere before and during the game was brilliant. Was the answer to your daughters questiin not the obvious one?
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Post by Deise Exile on Feb 10, 2019 21:04:18 GMT
That was a cracking game last night, Buckley has been an immeasurable loss to Kerry since jack felt he was no longer required in the fold. To have the privilege of presence in ASP. last evening is a gift as the memory will live long. Both teams fought on their backs for their jersey and it was a reminder of the wonderful sporting product Gaelic Football is when it is played the way God intended. Huge effort from both teams and I think what was evident was the fact that the dubs are acutely aware that Kerry are the top threat to their crown but hats off to all of those amateur athletes for the effort and unrelenting never say die attitude on show on both sides. On a side note the boooing by the Kerry supporters as the dubs walked off the pitch was very disappointing from my point of view, I felt our lads did all in their power to show what that jersey represents and I felt the stands left them down. Just an opinion !! The booing was at the thuggery at the final whistle which prevented kids from entering the field to meet their new heroes. That is certainly why I was booing
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Post by clarinman on Feb 10, 2019 21:31:22 GMT
Great game of football. Kerry i felt just about deserved to win. Very fast attacking play and moved the ball very quickly. Our sloppy passsing was punished by a kerry score usually from a free time and time again, Kerry clearly targeted our back line by putting in high balls , they got some joy but near the end we started to cope with it. There is no doubt the talent is there and Kerry are a real threat this year. . Strangely i feel this game will benefit Dublin and Kerry . It will give Kerry lads belief going forward and Dublin will be bursting a gut now to get a shot at Kerry again, especially with the melee at the end and then being booed off. On a side note and this is not sour grapes, because i know we have our own beauts in Hill 16. But at the end of the game My young daughter asked me why all the Kerry Supporters were booing Dublin as they walked off the pitch instead of being happy that their team had won. It was a pity as the atmosphere before and during the game was brilliant. Panther, I didn't see what happened after the final whistle as I left immediately after. There is no excuse for booing an opposing team. These are amateur players. That should not happen anywhere.
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Post by jackiel on Feb 10, 2019 21:52:36 GMT
I'm not a fan of booing a freetaker or indeed what happened at the end of the match.I hate to see brawling in the GAA, its not good for kids to witness it. Last night was a great spectacle. Personally I wouldn't have had much time for Liam O Connor before but to give him his due he really got the crowd going considering how early everyone was in the stadium. Credit to the grounds people and management of ASP. Great to get the win, truthfully I never expected it, I'd hoped they'd "give a good account of themselves" and learn a few things. Sean O Shea and Dara Moynihan were excellent, my one fear is that we are so heavily reliant on Seanie, hopefully when James O and DC come back we will be firing on all cylinders. A great night for Tralee, the place was hopping and I believe Killarney also had a lot of visitors from the capital. Delighted to have been there last night and looking forward to the coming championship season, currently re-thinking my plans for the next couple of league matches.
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Post by finuge86 on Feb 10, 2019 22:07:33 GMT
Can anyone tell me what is the story with James donoughue
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 10, 2019 22:08:03 GMT
Dit the pitch cut up at all.
A few years ago there was talk of selling ASP... i am delighted it never happened.
Thats two weeks in a TW missed scores from the mark with the right foot when his left foot would have been better suited to the position. He is very good with the left.
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Post by thepope on Feb 10, 2019 22:32:23 GMT
Delighted with win. Massive performance but we played poorly, with some poor decisions after the red card. Kicked the ball away three times and persisted with a long kickout despite the extra man. Good to make these mistakes now.
In general a massive improvement on last year. Running off the shoulder and speed of counter attack most impressive. Ciarraí Abú
Score at 1-17 to 2-10
63:04 red card for Dublin
64:05 lose restart
64:30 Fenton quick free to McManamon, McManamon under pressure fails to secure possession, wide ball
65:09 long kickout, sideline ball to Kerry
65:28 D Moran kicks sideline ball down field where there is no Kerry player
66:10 Fenton point
1-17 to 2-11
66.40 O’Beaglaíoch yellow card, maybe Mannion too
66:58 kickout to Dara Moynihan who had moved into space after treatment for cramp
67:16 P Murphy pass to S O’Shea (even Kevin McStay says O’Shea was fouled), Dublin win ball back
67:43 Costello fouled by P Crowley
68:18 Mannion point from free
1-17 to 2-12
68:32 long kickout to M Griffin, Griffin catches, turns and kicks ball straight to McManamon
68:50 Cormac Costello point
1-17 to 2-13
69:26 long kickout, Fenton wins, MDMA turns ball over to Kerry in tackle
70:00 Tom O’Sullivan kicks long pass into S O’Brien who is marked and covered by sweeper, O’Brien fouls, Dublin free in own half
70:34- 70:50 Mark taken by P Andrews, hits post with effort
71:14 long kickout, won by McCaffrey. McCaffrey fouled as he shoots
72:24 Costello kicks resulting free
1-17 to 2-14 level
72:45 Camera doesn’t show kickout but looks short as Kerry pass ball inside own 50m
Handpassing, one long kick to switch to P.Crowley in space
73:31 all handpassing leads to Crowley fisted point
1-18 to 2-14
73:40 short kickout won by Dublin
74:34 Fenton kicks wide
75:02 FT whistle on kickout dropping under Moran and MDMA
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Post by dc84 on Feb 10, 2019 22:43:22 GMT
Great game of football. Kerry i felt just about deserved to win. Very fast attacking play and moved the ball very quickly. Our sloppy passsing was punished by a kerry score usually from a free time and time again, Kerry clearly targeted our back line by putting in high balls , they got some joy but near the end we started to cope with it. There is no doubt the talent is there and Kerry are a real threat this year. . Strangely i feel this game will benefit Dublin and Kerry . It will give Kerry lads belief going forward and Dublin will be bursting a gut now to get a shot at Kerry again, especially with the melee at the end and then being booed off. On a side note and this is not sour grapes, because i know we have our own beauts in Hill 16. But at the end of the game My young daughter asked me why all the Kerry Supporters were booing Dublin as they walked off the pitch instead of being happy that their team had won. It was a pity as the atmosphere before and during the game was brilliant. Hard as it is for me i would have to agree on the last point you made not nice to see guess the messing at the end played a part.
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Post by whitefire on Feb 10, 2019 23:03:09 GMT
Yeah, as usual McStay can't conceal his hatred of Kerry. A disgrace again tonight. But so what, fantastic performance from the young lads tonight. Great character to go for the winner at the end. Moynihan was outstanding, no fear whatsoever. He's an idiot. McStay blamed a Kerry official for starting the melee, is it true? Did anyone see what happened?
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Post by peanuts on Feb 10, 2019 23:29:15 GMT
McStay blamed a Kerry official for starting the melee, is it true? Did anyone see what happened? The pics I've seen show Crowley with 2 Dubs at the start of it. I didn't see any official involved at any stage.
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Post by kerryboy83 on Feb 10, 2019 23:30:00 GMT
McStay blamed a Kerry official for starting the melee, is it true? Did anyone see what happened? Think it looked like Crowley and small. A lot of pushing and shoving. Thing of nothing. Dublin supporters behind the goal in the new covered area were very nasty. Desperate abuse been shouted out. Then again some of these guys will probably fall bak in supporting shamrock rovers wen Dublin lose in the championship!
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Post by pillar on Feb 10, 2019 23:31:26 GMT
McStay blamed a Kerry official for starting the melee, is it true? Did anyone see what happened? Think a Kerry player might have reminded John Small to have a look at the scoreboard and he took exception to that.When it all calmed one of the Kerry backroom team strolled boldly past a Dublin player and may have given him a nudge.A smaller melee then ensued. Lots of commentary about it being unsavoury but i think supporters enjoy it plus it shows how much it means to the players(and officials)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 1:55:33 GMT
It was noticeable how much alcohol a lot of the Dublin fans consumed both before and during the game.
It certainly impacted on their attitude throughout.
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Post by decondd2 on Feb 11, 2019 7:54:38 GMT
McStay blamed a Kerry official for starting the melee, is it true? Did anyone see what happened? When Crowley came in it escalated, but the initial row seemed to involved Mikey Geaney, Cormac Costello and another Dublin player with Red or Orange boots (Dean Rock or Small). O'Beaglaoich was close by as well then Crowley came over to grab the nearest Dublin player and ended up getting three punches to the head and went to ground. He ran off straight after which wouldn't be like him at all. Another Kerry player in a black windbreaker also got pulled to ground. The second skirmish started when it had all calmed down. A Kerry official seemed to bump into Niall Scully who shoved him. Gavin Crowley shoved back and Scully backed down. Unnecessary on both sides. Hope we don't end up losing anyone on suspension afterwards.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 8:04:45 GMT
Great to win even though we made hard work of it in the end Kudoos to all involved. Gavin in one way got exactly what he wanted deep down he got the motivation going among his players and going for 5 in a row thats the hardest part surely.Our Late point at the end was so satisfying for us in that we played too defensive possibly from the 60 minute onwards and it cost us but we showed that we can change gears and go forward too thanks to the experience of Peter Crowley who made the great double run and showed patience to wait for the pass from David There are so may improvements that we can learn from in this game and im sure our diligent management will tend to all those Two that stand out for me 1. We are not getting no where near enough from our midfield I understand that they worked hard fair play to both but not enough football and go ahead ball or scoring threat form these. 2 . We all love David Moran but why does he run to take all the frees and the side line ball !!! Thats something like a U12 wanna be free taker would do its infuriating. For a sideline ball would it not make sense to have a designated kicker for the area where it went out wing back or wing forward would David be better at the Recieving end of the inbound ball wouldnt he draw two defenders if nothing else . Knockout stages beckon Galway , Mayo and Monaghan up ahead not getting any easier great learning opportunity what a good competition this is !!!! I thought our midfield were excellent on Saturday night, we won that battle. We also have a kick out strategy in place. Shane Ryan is well able to find his man.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 8:22:36 GMT
Kilkennys 5inarow went up in smoke when Shefflin got injured. Dublins 5inarow depends largely on Cluxton avoiding injury. The last time Kerry beat Dublin in the league in Kerry, Cluxton wasnt playing. Comerford didnt have the confidence to go long last night and when Kerry turned the screw on him in the second half Dublin conceeded scores. Having Cluxton, Kilkenny and Connolly back will probably see Dublin do the 5inarow this year unfortunately. Was Comerfords failings not largely down to the high pressing of the Kerry players? Even when Cluxton is in goals for them, he has wobbled under that kind of pressure. Surely going forward, a key aspect of beating Dublin, is to "hammer the hammer" with a high press.
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Post by greengold35 on Feb 11, 2019 8:42:39 GMT
McStay blamed a Kerry official for starting the melee, is it true? Did anyone see what happened? When Crowley came in it escalated, but the initial row seemed to involved Mikey Geaney, Cormac Costello and another Dublin player with Red or Orange boots (Dean Rock or Small). O'Beaglaoich was close by as well then Crowley came over to grab the nearest Dublin player and ended up getting three punches to the head and went to ground. He ran off straight after which wouldn't be like him at all. Another Kerry player in a black windbreaker also got pulled to ground. The second skirmish started when it had all calmed down. A Kerry official seemed to bump into Niall Scully who shoved him. Gavin Crowley shoved back and Scully backed down. Unnecessary on both sides. Hope we don't end up losing anyone on suspension afterwards. Small was the Dublin player involved with Crowley. Brian O’Beaglaoi was grabbed around the neck by McAuley and thrown to the ground - it looked dangerous and can be clearly seen on the TV footage.
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Post by thebluepanther on Feb 11, 2019 9:06:53 GMT
Out of curiosity Who was number 2 for Kerry .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 9:16:52 GMT
Great game of football. Kerry i felt just about deserved to win. Very fast attacking play and moved the ball very quickly. Our sloppy passsing was punished by a kerry score usually from a free time and time again, Kerry clearly targeted our back line by putting in high balls , they got some joy but near the end we started to cope with it. There is no doubt the talent is there and Kerry are a real threat this year. . Strangely i feel this game will benefit Dublin and Kerry . It will give Kerry lads belief going forward and Dublin will be bursting a gut now to get a shot at Kerry again, especially with the melee at the end and then being booed off. On a side note and this is not sour grapes, because i know we have our own beauts in Hill 16. But at the end of the game My young daughter asked me why all the Kerry Supporters were booing Dublin as they walked off the pitch instead of being happy that their team had won. It was a pity as the atmosphere before and during the game was brilliant. At the time, I put it down to the melee at the end. However, it's totally unacceptable.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 11, 2019 9:20:17 GMT
Kilkennys 5inarow went up in smoke when Shefflin got injured. Dublins 5inarow depends largely on Cluxton avoiding injury. The last time Kerry beat Dublin in the league in Kerry, Cluxton wasnt playing. Comerford didnt have the confidence to go long last night and when Kerry turned the screw on him in the second half Dublin conceeded scores. Having Cluxton, Kilkenny and Connolly back will probably see Dublin do the 5inarow this year unfortunately. Was Comerfords failings not largely down to the high pressing of the Kerry players? Even when Cluxton is in goals for them, he has wobbled under that kind of pressure. Surely going forward, a key aspect of beating Dublin, is to "hammer the hammer" with a high press. You can only do that to Cluxton after a set piece...a free or a 45 as you have time to press up while the kick is being taken. He gets the ball away in less than 10 seconds.
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Post by offalyoutsider on Feb 11, 2019 9:24:30 GMT
Made the five hour round trip down from the faithful county for this one and boy was it worth it. Got to Austin Stack park at 5.45pm to try get a seat and avoid the rain, my luck was out as the place was packed already. This was a shock to a man who attends Division 3 games most weeks.
Ended up behind the goal among the Dubs. Hard to listen to at the best of times, even worse for a 7pm throw in on a Saturday night.
The treatment they gave their own keeper was the biggest shock to me. 4 all Ireland in a row and countless great days but still prepared to lambast a young lad trying to fill the boots of one of the greatest GAA players of all time.
The game itself had everything you would want. Both teams going at it hammer and thongs for 74 minutes and with an abundance of great scores to recount on the way home.
Have seen the wing back Tom O Sullivan twice now, the other been the county final against Crokes in October. Couldn’t be more impressed with him. Sean O Shea could be one for the ages and Dara Moynihan is going to make it very hard for the likes of Michael Burns to get back in the team.
For all the positives for Kerry it is still only February and I think Crowley late point glosses over the fact that with 10 minutes to go with a man advantage that Kerry found a way to let Dublin back into the game and that's with only 4 weeks collective work done (apparently)
The melee at the end was something about noting in my eyes. You cant expect 30 lads to crash into each other for 70 minutes in that atmosphere and not be a bit hot under the collar at the end.
P.S if any advise is needed at stopping 5 in a row don't be shy in asking.
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 11, 2019 9:33:19 GMT
Kerry's success against Dubs will be short-lived Updated / Monday, 11 Feb 2019 07:06
By Aidan O'Rourke Former Armagh footballer, All Star and 2002 All-Ireland winner and current GAA Performance Manager with Queen's University
Kerry’s performance on Saturday night against the All-Ireland champions was an interesting experiment and a definite statement of intent for the season ahead.
The result helps of course but their method was dynamic and screamed confidence in themselves and their ability to hurt Dublin.
In the long run though, it may not be enough when it really counts.
Despite the new age realisation that being defensively sound and in general "difficult to beat" is the path to maximising the competitiveness of any team in football, it remains absolutely true that the teams that win provincial and All Ireland honours will have a dynamic attacking approach built on top of that basic foundation.
Defending well with little ambition beyond that task has a concrete ceiling limiting how far any team can rise.
The biggest coaching challenge at the highest level of the game now is developing attacking capacity alongside defensive efficiency without sacrificing the latter.
Most organised teams with the proper physical and mental preparation can defend collectively to a very high standard.
That’s not to say it’s easy to achieve but creating a sufficiently effective attack as a counter weight is hugely challenging.
Those teams need individual quality in key positions – defensive positions – to release manpower and enterprise forward.
Marquee Men
Football has rolled through many versions of itself and it is said that the game today bears little resemblance to the seemingly halcyon '90s and even less to the aristocratic '60s.
Irrespective of era, there has always been a "marquee man" man, who stood apart and represented the essence of the team. There was always an emblematic player that the performance of the group depended on.
These players can be found in most areas of the pitch but more often than not, supporters and casual observers will elevate the key scorer on a successful team as that talisman that corner stones everything the group is about.
Often, if you look a little closer, there are key men in defence and the middle third that can be every bit as much the beating heart of the collective – even if their effect is not as readily recognized much beyond the dressing room.
But we are now in an era where curtailing marquee forwards is never a solitary assignment. Consequently those marksmen and playmakers have a gruelling physical and mental challenge to impose themselves on games for any consistent period of time.
The reality is that the source of scoring opportunities is now so diverse that runners from deep are often the most potent attacking weapons, depending on the opposition set up.
The rarest and most valuable player in the game today are warrior defenders who can attack any task within the rear-guard and empower middle third players to operate without the urgent constraint of protecting what’s left behind.
Man-marking and manning a lone cover position are specialist arts with the former dying out rapidly.
Opening Up
To open the straps of a rigid defensive structure, tackle higher and gamble with additional space in defence, a manager has to place enormous faith in man markers and a nominal cover player.
Certainly, he has to be sure that the additional forward momentum his team can create outweighs the vulnerability to space around opposition’s creative forwards.
Dublin hold two ace cards in this regard in the form of Johnny Cooper and Mick Fitzsimmons. Both are aggressive and powerful physically but as importantly they are aggressive and powerful mentally. They both relish the challenge of storied attackers and meet them head on.
Philly McMahon of three years ago was arguably a better model and certainly beat a path for both men to imitate. I can clearly imagine the process of learning those and younger Dublin defenders have been exposed to in experiencing McMahon operate up close over a period of time.
The true value of these warriors to their team is that they empower the rest to hunt the ball aggressively where they can, irrespective of where the opportunity falls on the pitch.
The knowledge that any pressurised ball forward will give their guards dogs with a cover sitting in front all the opportunity they need to intervene energises everyone. The knock on effects are obvious – pressurising higher creates more support within touching distance when the ball is turned over.
Teams constrained by defined tackling areas and zoned areas of responsibility simply do not have the licence to improvise and go after turn overs ad hoc.
Only Monaghan have personnel with the same ruthless qualities to take on the best attackers in hand to hand combat without layers of comfort tacklers. Ryan Wyle and Colin Walshe have those same intimidating attributes with another couple measuring fairly close on the PH scale.
Monaghan have successfully made the journey over the last two years that others have embarked on. Malachy O’Rourke has transitioned the Farney men from an ultra-difficult team to play against who could grind opponents into submission to a team with serious potency beyond Conor McManus now in attack.
Speculate to Accumulate
There are many examples of teams tipping the attack / defence seesaw almost entirely towards being difficult to beat as a priority. Often it has to be so to allow players to see that opponents are human and that they belong in their company. For most, there is no other reasonable chance to curtail an opponent of equal or better attacking ability other than to eliminate the space for them to play in.
Even this great four in a row Dublin team began it’s journey under the stoic defensive tutelage of Pat Gilroy before Jim Galvin was able to build on those sturdy foundations. It may be hard to imagine now but James McCarthy’s first role as a wing back meant that he may not have left his own half more than half a dozen times in a match.
In the modern game, the most difficult challenge is evolving from the safety of doing okay, getting grudging credit and holding your own where your team is not expected to. It can be a very safe harbour to stay in but in the long term it saps the spirit of teams. Players are competitive animals.
They want be part of a team that goes to war together and want a team structure that gives them the best chance to win. But the time will come when they will believe they can do more than just compete and again it is the coaches’ role to provide a mechanism for players to pour their footballing potential into the expanding team potential
This is the tipping point when ultimately players and coaches find out exactly what the potential of the team is to evolve further. Building the patterns that suit your players and instilling the confidence to go after games is the end game.
Ultimately the previous body of work in creating a defensive structure and self-confidence should be leading to a time to grow. Not everyone has that capacity. Teams like Fermanagh, Carlow and Galway are approach the moth to butterfly phase and choppy waters lie ahead to be navigated.
The Kingdom Come
Kerry, unsurprisingly, have bypassed the defensive building phase and gone straight to a self-confident and vibrant attacking model. They certainly have the footballers on the front foot to match the Dubs but serious question marks hang about their warrior quality in defence.
With full compliments on both sides and a solid turf in the Summer, Kerry will need to have developed individual qualities that have been largely missing from Kerry teams in recent years. The Con O’Callaghan goal on Saturday night was a microcosm of why the Dubs will win this game when it matters.
Mirroring the champions’ tactical set up takes enormous belief and Kerry are obviously not short in that department.
However, they are going to discover that lesser teams than Dublin can expose their lack of marquee players in the areas that count most of all now.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 11, 2019 9:56:33 GMT
Was Comerfords failings not largely down to the high pressing of the Kerry players? Even when Cluxton is in goals for them, he has wobbled under that kind of pressure. Surely going forward, a key aspect of beating Dublin, is to "hammer the hammer" with a high press. You can only do that to Cluxton after a set piece...a free or a 45 as you have time to press up while the kick is being taken. He gets the ball away in less than 10 seconds. In the League it's easier with the new kickout rule.
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Post by taibhse on Feb 11, 2019 10:01:23 GMT
Can anyone tell me what is the story with James donoughue I believe James O has a slight back muscle spasm – nothing serious. He'll be ok. Hope I'm not infringing The Data Protection Act there!
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 11, 2019 10:06:29 GMT
Was Comerfords failings not largely down to the high pressing of the Kerry players? Even when Cluxton is in goals for them, he has wobbled under that kind of pressure. Surely going forward, a key aspect of beating Dublin, is to "hammer the hammer" with a high press. You can only do that to Cluxton after a set piece...a free or a 45 as you have time to press up while the kick is being taken. He gets the ball away in less than 10 seconds. We don't yet get the quick kick out mindset in Kerry. Its not in the Kerry DNA at the moment.
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Post by diego on Feb 11, 2019 10:32:43 GMT
Made the five hour round trip down from the faithful county for this one and boy was it worth it. Got to Austin Stack park at 5.45pm to try get a seat and avoid the rain, my luck was out as the place was packed already. This was a shock to a man who attends Division 3 games most weeks. Ended up behind the goal among the Dubs. Hard to listen to at the best of times, even worse for a 7pm throw in on a Saturday night. The treatment they gave their own keeper was the biggest shock to me. 4 all Ireland in a row and countless great days but still prepared to lambast a young lad trying to fill the boots of one of the greatest GAA players of all time. The game itself had everything you would want. Both teams going at it hammer and thongs for 74 minutes and with an abundance of great scores to recount on the way home. Have seen the wing back Tom O Sullivan twice now, the other been the county final against Crokes in October. Couldn’t be more impressed with him. Sean O Shea could be one for the ages and Dara Moynihan is going to make it very hard for the likes of Michael Burns to get back in the team. For all the positives for Kerry it is still only February and I think Crowley late point glosses over the fact that with 10 minutes to go with a man advantage that Kerry found a way to let Dublin back into the game and that's with only 4 weeks collective work done (apparently) The melee at the end was something about noting in my eyes. You cant expect 30 lads to crash into each other for 70 minutes in that atmosphere and not be a bit hot under the collar at the end. P.S if any advise is needed at stopping 5 in a row don't be shy in asking. agree completely about Tom O'Sullivan. class player and one who thrives on the big occasion. as for mention of'hammer and thongs', my mind suddenly drifted to another world entirely
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Post by onlykerry on Feb 11, 2019 10:35:34 GMT
Great game - thouroughly enjoyable to watch and the atmosphere generated in ASP added to the occasion. Some excellent play but also some issues that require work. Aidan O Rourke in his analysis on RTE today suggests we are missing a marquee defender or two and when it comes down to it this will cost us in the Championship - or at least that is what I think his long winded piece is saying. Perhaps the two Dublin goals point in that direction also, but its early days for this team and whereas SOS & DC are already being held up as marquee forwards (to add to those we already had) we have yet to see a defender (other than Paul Murphy perhaps) stand out to the same extent in defence. Collectively our defense is working very hard (and effectively) but without numbers we are vulnerable to an opposing talent as evidenced on Saturday - it is probably in this area that work over the next few months will pay dividends. Unearthing and letting loose the next Seamus Moynihan or Tomas O Se - the hard as nails defender that can go one for for with the best forwards the opposition can throw at us.
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Post by dc84 on Feb 11, 2019 10:37:19 GMT
Can anyone tell me what is the story with James donoughue I believe James O has a slight back muscle spasm – nothing serious. He'll be ok. Hope I'm not infringing The Data Protection Act there! Personally id be happy enough if we dont see jod for another few weeks heavy pitches dont suit the man we need him firing in the summer. We could do with giving o shea a break next game put he has played a lot of football last few weeks and still sigerson to come id start walsh vs galway and move o brien to 11.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 11, 2019 11:11:43 GMT
Great game - thouroughly enjoyable to watch and the atmosphere generated in ASP added to the occasion. Some excellent play but also some issues that require work. Aidan O Rourke in his analysis on RTE today suggests we are missing a marquee defender or two and when it comes down to it this will cost us in the Championship - or at least that is what I think his long winded piece is saying. Perhaps the two Dublin goals point in that direction also, but its early days for this team and whereas SOS & DC are already being held up as marquee forwards (to add to those we already had) we have yet to see a defender (other than Paul Murphy perhaps) stand out to the same extent in defence. Collectively our defense is working very hard (and effectively) but without numbers we are vulnerable to an opposing talent as evidenced on Saturday - it is probably in this area that work over the next few months will pay dividends. Unearthing and letting loose the next Seamus Moynihan or Tomas O Se - the hard as nails defender that can go one for for with the best forwards the opposition can throw at us. One winces at the thought of the treatment Mannion would received by Cooper, Philly, Small etc if he were wearing the jersey of another county.
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Post by keane on Feb 11, 2019 11:17:09 GMT
It was noticeable how much alcohol a lot of the Dublin fans consumed both before and during the game. It certainly impacted on their attitude throughout. The line of empty naggins of Jameson on the small wall behind the Horans' end goal was something I've never seen before.
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