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Post by fivenarow on Jun 4, 2020 10:20:51 GMT
I’m not a hurling man but Parnells are a breath of fresh air to hurling around the tralee area. Having a hurling club with no football connection made it easier for players from every part of the town to play together. I think some lads from clubs other than stacks felt they weren’t getting a fair crack under the stacks setup & underage hurling was dwindling away over the years. I know a few lads that were well long in the tooth & still playing senior hurling with stacks so it wasn’t like there was a conveyer belt of players coming through. The idea that lads would play all the way up with Parnells & play senior with stacks was ridiculous, it was never going to work which came to fruition when Parnells could finally field a senior team last season. Parnells are doing a great job in tough conditions & with another push in the next few years could see them coming through & be competitive at senior level.
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Post by mossie on Jun 4, 2020 22:35:25 GMT
all very true 5 in a row
I hope those involved in Parnells running the club can stay the course. Having to juggle with football with players drawn from several clubs in terms of who they play football with cant be easy and has potential to wear volunteers down.
Young lads in and around Tralee have played with the North Kerry hurling clubs over the years where they have connections with NK clubs so it shows there is a desire for hurling in the town not to mention in Dingle where the likes of Paul Geaney, Dara and Barry Sullivan, Matthew Flaherty have worn the Kilmoyley hurling jersey and indeed Kerry hurling jersey
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Post by hurlingman on Jun 5, 2020 8:41:00 GMT
all very true 5 in a row I hope those involved in Parnells running the club can stay the course. Having to juggle with football with players drawn from several clubs in terms of who they play football with cant be easy and has potential to wear volunteers down. Young lads in and around Tralee have played with the North Kerry hurling clubs over the years where they have connections with NK clubs so it shows there is a desire for hurling in the town not to mention in Dingle where the likes of Paul Geaney, Dara and Barry Sullivan, Matthew Flaherty have worn the Kilmoyley hurling jersey and indeed Kerry hurling jersey The next few years will be key for Parnells. A lot of the fellas who joined up from Stacks are all in their 30's now so will probally will only get a few more years out of them. They'll need to push on with those experenced players and hopefully win something to keep things going. Will also be interesting to see with the IT joining up with CIT will that have an impact on new players with Parnells. I'm still of the view that trying out divisional teams is the way to go, if only for 2/3 years. Kenmare and Kilgarvin as South Kerry, Corkes and St. Pats are East Kerry and Parnells and Duagh. The problem with the old South Kerry team i always thought was the fact the teams were too spread out and there was no way they could train etc. Having them close together might help with that.
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 7, 2020 9:58:56 GMT
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Post by mossie on Oct 11, 2020 17:40:06 GMT
league final coming up for the senior hurlers v antrim
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 16, 2020 13:39:56 GMT
Minors to play Tipp at the weekend. Good to see they've made the step up. Hopefully they can put up a good show. I think it' the first time since 2014 they've played in the A grade?
U21's at home to Cork as well Monday. Again hopefully put up a good show. I thought they should have made the step up before now when they would have had a stronger side.
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Post by southward on Oct 16, 2020 20:29:53 GMT
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Post by veteran on Oct 16, 2020 20:40:36 GMT
That is an interesting team from a football standpoint. Brandon Barrett and Michael Slatterey are both former, impressive underage Kerry footballers. Did Michael Lenihan and Tomas OConnor play for the Kerry minor footballers. Furthermore when Barry O’Mahony and Donal O’Sullivan return from injury they certainly will be candidates for the hurling team if Peter Keane does not come calling.
Good to see Shane Nolan back.
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Post by mossie on Oct 16, 2020 21:41:19 GMT
That is an interesting team from a football standpoint. Brandon Barrett and Michael Slatterey are both former, impressive underage Kerry footballers. Did Michael Lenihan and Tomas OConnor play for the Kerry minor footballers. Furthermore when Barry O’Mahony and Donal O’Sullivan return from injury they certainly will be candidates for the hurling team if Peter Keane does not come calling. Good to see Shane Nolan back. Brandon Barrett played kerry under 21 football and junior as well, was very highly rated by Jack O'Connor Tomas Connor was on the kerry minor football squad, Michael Lenihan was a starter in the full forward line for the Kerry minor footballers Donal O'Sullivan and Barry Mahony would walk on to the kerry senior hurling team tommorow morning if fit and available. An interesting name on the Kerry minor hurling team at midfield on Sunday is Luke Crowley. Son of former kerry senior footballer John Crowley and grandson of Derry Crowley who also won all irelands with Kerry in football. Derry was a fine hurler too , played hurling at club level for years to beyond veteran stage really, won a senior hurling championship medal with Killarney in 1969
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Post by mossie on Oct 16, 2020 21:45:32 GMT
Minors to play Tipp at the weekend. Good to see they've made the step up. Hopefully they can put up a good show. I think it' the first time since 2014 they've played in the A grade? U21's at home to Cork as well Monday. Again hopefully put up a good show. I thought they should have made the step up before now when they would have had a stronger side. Brave step, Cork are powerful at under 20 this year, could be a tough day at the office good to see clubs like Parnells, Kilgarvan, Dr Crokes, Rathmore represented on starting 15s on the under 20s and minors
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Oct 16, 2020 23:16:47 GMT
Is Daniel Collins injured? Does Maurice O’Connor not want to play Inter County?
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Post by mossie on Oct 16, 2020 23:52:36 GMT
Minors to play Tipp at the weekend. Good to see they've made the step up. Hopefully they can put up a good show. I think it' the first time since 2014 they've played in the A grade? U21's at home to Cork as well Monday. Again hopefully put up a good show. I thought they should have made the step up before now when they would have had a stronger side. Brave step, Cork are powerful at under 20 this year, could be a tough day at the office good to see clubs like Parnells, Kilgarvan, Dr Crokes, Rathmore represented on starting 15s on the under 20s and minors I missed out on kenmare who have Liam Palmer starting for the minors In all 13 clubs represented across the hurling teams at the weekend good to see Ballyheigue with good representation as well, they are bouncing back
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Post by mossie on Oct 16, 2020 23:54:32 GMT
That is an interesting team from a football standpoint. Brandon Barrett and Michael Slatterey are both former, impressive underage Kerry footballers. Did Michael Lenihan and Tomas OConnor play for the Kerry minor footballers. Furthermore when Barry O’Mahony and Donal O’Sullivan return from injury they certainly will be candidates for the hurling team if Peter Keane does not come calling. Good to see Shane Nolan back. Devon Burns Tralee Parnells , is the kerry under 20 hurling keeper. super goalkeeper in both codes. I am near certain he played in goals for the kerry minor footballers
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Post by thesquareball on Oct 17, 2020 19:57:28 GMT
is the development of hurling in kerry best served by the minor and under 20 hurlers playing in munster ch,ship with limited preparation ,the pandemic and having stronger teams in previous years . These players will battle away but it s .not a meeting of equals.Can anyone explain whats the story with kilmoyley with no player on senior panel,individual or collective decision ,it is a weakened kerry team whichever
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Post by southward on Oct 17, 2020 21:29:48 GMT
That is an interesting team from a football standpoint. Brandon Barrett and Michael Slatterey are both former, impressive underage Kerry footballers. Did Michael Lenihan and Tomas OConnor play for the Kerry minor footballers. Furthermore when Barry O’Mahony and Donal O’Sullivan return from injury they certainly will be candidates for the hurling team if Peter Keane does not come calling. Good to see Shane Nolan back. Devon Burns Tralee Parnells , is the kerry under 20 hurling keeper. super goalkeeper in both codes. I am near certain he played in goals for the kerry minor footballers He was last year's minor keeper. Very impressive too.
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Post by mossie on Oct 17, 2020 23:11:58 GMT
Burns is a prospect in goals in both codes
who was the last man to play in goals for the county in both codes?
I can only say Johnny Culloty
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Post by veteran on Oct 18, 2020 9:43:05 GMT
For those interested , GAAgo are transmitting the Kerry/Antrim match today. This is a great service.
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Post by veteran on Oct 18, 2020 12:02:08 GMT
Burns is a prospect in goals in both codes who was the last man to play in goals for the county in both codes? I can only say Johnny Culloty Johnny of course started his career as a corner forward, a very crafty one apparently, winning a senior medal in 1955. He won his next senior medal as a goalie in 1959 and further ones in 1962, 1969 and 1970. It was a very serious knee injury which necessitated his migration to the goalkeeping position. It could indeed have been the notorious cruciate injury which very likely was not even being diagnosed in those days let alone being treated , except of course with the ubiquitous support bandage! Dr. Brendan Lynch took the reverse route. He played Kerry minor for a couple of years in the mid sixties in goals before switching to wing forward to claim senior medals in 1969 , 1970 and ?1975. Of course , Bryan Sheehan also started his intercounty career as a goalie.
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Post by mossie on Oct 18, 2020 12:07:15 GMT
Burns is a prospect in goals in both codes who was the last man to play in goals for the county in both codes? I can only say Johnny Culloty Johnny of course started his career as a corner forward, a very crafty one apparently, winning a senior medal in 1955. He won his next senior medal as a goalie in 1959 and further ones in 1962, 1969 and 1970. It was a very serious knee injury which necessitated his migration to the goalkeeping position. It could indeed have been the notorious cruciate injury which very likely was not even being diagnosed in those days let alone being treated , except of course with the ubiquitous support bandage! Dr. Brendan Lynch took the reverse route. He played Kerry minor for a couple of years in the mid sixties in goals before switching to wing forward to claim senior medals in 1969 , 1970 and ?1975. Of course , Bryan Sheehan also started his intercounty career as a goalie. Brendan Lynch took up the hurley in 1969 too to win a senior hurling championsship medal with Killarney I didnt realise Brendan Lynch started out in goals in football
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Post by himself on Oct 18, 2020 13:21:17 GMT
Johnny was Kerry minor hurling goalkeeper at 15 years of age. Loads of dual players in Kerry always, but I can't think of any keepers offhand
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Post by mossie on Oct 18, 2020 14:28:41 GMT
Johnny was Kerry minor hurling goalkeeper at 15 years of age. Loads of dual players in Kerry always, but I can't think of any keepers offhand Johnny went on to play goals and outfield for Kerry in hurling at senior for a long spell as everyone knows Burns and Johnny are the only dual county keepers that I can think of Kieran Fitzgibbon played kerry minor hurling in goals and is a good football keeper with Kenmare but hasnt played county football
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Post by mossie on Oct 18, 2020 14:34:33 GMT
For those interested , GAAgo are transmitting the Kerry/Antrim match today. This is a great service. I watched it Veteran, entertaining high scoring match, very open Antrim were that bit sharper and physically stronger Shane Conway very good again but victim of a lot of late strokes, Michael Leane got 3 good points. Our backs struggled to hold Antrim forwards and Kerry have a bit of work to do to close the gap between them and Antrim when they meet again in the Joe McDonagh cup.
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Post by veteran on Oct 18, 2020 15:16:03 GMT
I don’t think Antrim were flattered by their winning margin. They were more skillful, more aware, more streetwise and they didn’t spare the timber , especially on Shane . Our backs were very jittery, hesitant and fumbled a lot. Antrim made good use of the short puck out which ultimately gives you an extra twenty yards or so when delivering the ball out. Conversely, I think we went long all the time. It seemed to be a tactic to lamp it on top of Michael O’Leary which rarely succeeded. Michael is a big boy and if he does not collect it over his head he hasn’t got the finesse to deal with it on the ground. He didn’t stop trying though.
Michael Leane got a few nice scores and Michael Slattery got involved a few times when he came on. The last of the Mohicans , Mikey Boyle, scored 1-1 in the first half and nearly scored a second when he was wily enough to collect a ball inside the cover but seemed to shoot straight at the keeper. Didn’t feature in the second half , not sure if he was replaced. That man has paid his dues.
As I said , the Antrim boys did not spare the timber. Inevitably, Shane got plenty of attention. A variety of opponents seemed to take turns in clattering into him. Talking about that,, I want to ask you one question Mossie. With about ten minutes or so to go their CHB thundered into Shane from the back. While Shane was being treated the referee went to speak to the CHB and I felt he was going to issue a merited yellow card but then changed his mind. I thought the Antrim man had got a previous yellow card and the referee realising that refrained from issuing the second. I am not certain of my ground here. Have you any memory of the incident and if a yellow card had been issued previously?
In the heel of the hunt , there is no doubt the better team won but we made them work for it all the same.
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Post by mossie on Oct 18, 2020 17:06:46 GMT
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I dont recall the detail of that incident but I would be unhappy about the number of sneaky late strokes on Conway
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 20, 2020 7:43:42 GMT
While the results didn't go as planned, tehre was still positives.
Minors well beaten but still put in an alright display. A plus being they didn't concede a goal, something that's sometimes a big problem.
Under 20s again a good display and were well in it until Cork scored the goals in the second half.
Seinors were a bit of a disappointment. Just couldn't get going and relied on Share Conway to get them the scored. As others have said late pulls etc on Conway were out of order with the ref seeming to just turn a blindeye to them. Will have to regroup fact as they're out again this weekend with no second chances.
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 20, 2020 7:46:29 GMT
Johnny was Kerry minor hurling goalkeeper at 15 years of age. Loads of dual players in Kerry always, but I can't think of any keepers offhand Johnny went on to play goals and outfield for Kerry in hurling at senior for a long spell as everyone knows Burns and Johnny are the only dual county keepers that I can think of Kieran Fitzgibbon played kerry minor hurling in goals and is a good football keeper with Kenmare but hasnt played county football I think Fitzgibbon was part of the Kerry Junior planel a few years ago. As far as i can remember he left the panel asfter the All-Ireland semi-final because he wasn't getting any game time.
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Post by veteran on Oct 23, 2020 13:49:27 GMT
After the Kerry/Antrim game I referred to a particular incident. It concerned the Antrim CHB ploughing into the back of Shane Conway. While Shane was being treated , the referee called aside the Antrim man and I got the impression he was about to give him a yellow card but seemed to change his mind. I surmised that he changed his mind because this man had already got a yellow card but I wasn’t sure .
The Kerryman reporter has confirmed that the CHB has indeed got a previous yellow card . So, the referee cheated .Now the sending off may not have changed the result, and winning only because you have an extra man gives a hollow feeling, but it would have been appropriate in the context of Shane being repeatedly subjected to late, unfair tackles. That type of refereeing is not good enough.
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 23, 2020 16:35:29 GMT
After the Kerry/Antrim game I referred to a particular incident. It concerned the Antrim CHB ploughing into the back of Shane Conway. While Shane was being treated , the referee called aside the Antrim man and I got the impression he was about to give him a yellow card but seemed to change his mind. I surmised that he changed his mind because this man had already got a yellow card but I wasn’t sure . The Kerryman reporter has confirmed that the CHB has indeed got a previous yellow card . So, the referee cheated .Now the sending off may not have changed the result, and winning only because you have an extra man gives a hollow feeling, but it would have been appropriate in the context of Shane being repeatedly subjected to late, unfair tackles. That type of refereeing is not good enough. Shane is a marked man with Kerry. If he were with a stronger hurling county he would be one of 6 forwards that needed minding.
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 25, 2020 9:21:18 GMT
Joe McDonagh Cup starts today at home to Meath. No sign of a team being named on on the main site. Stream is available so that's at least something. If last week however is anything to go by if you can't get the stream you'll have to rely on the Meath county board for updates.
To the same itself. Will have to prick themselves up after last week but should have enough to get over the line. Will need t hit the ground running as one loss is a huge setback in this.
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Post by mossie on Oct 25, 2020 11:14:39 GMT
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the stream was good the last day and Radio Kerry had live commentary
Timmy Sheehan lord rest him missed on the hurling days on radio kerry
I must say Andrew Morrissey is a good addition though, has the broadcasting and hurling experience
Kerry must win today,home match and opposition gets stronger as the competition goes on, strange no team announcement
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