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Post by northside on Apr 19, 2024 8:44:00 GMT
I’d have to agree it’s probably our weakest starting line up for a championship game in a long time. Dan Goggin another massive loss, one of Kerry’s best players in the league this year.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see a few changes to the starting 15 before throw in, possibly Brandon Barrett and Gavin Dooley to come in
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Post by thehermit on Apr 19, 2024 9:42:00 GMT
Few interesting pieces in kerryman today talking to Mackessy and Molomphy who made a great point saying theres no point talking about lads that would be great if they trained its the lads with there shoulder to the wheel we want.Fionan said league and championship different ball game and kerry wont fear anyone. Hopefully things click for Kerry and win at least two rounds That's all well and good, but I doubt I'm the only one thinking that Molomphy is probably the main reason why so many lads not there ARE NOT there. IMO he should not have been given a third year, it looks like his lost the dressing room. I'm obviously being biased but who were the stand out club side last year, the current county champions Crotta. What representation have we on Sunday's team, Billy Keane and Thomas O'Connor only - warming the bench. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Apr 19, 2024 11:25:18 GMT
Few interesting pieces in kerryman today talking to Mackessy and Molomphy who made a great point saying theres no point talking about lads that would be great if they trained its the lads with there shoulder to the wheel we want.Fionan said league and championship different ball game and kerry wont fear anyone. Hopefully things click for Kerry and win at least two rounds That's all well and good, but I doubt I'm the only one thinking that Molomphy is probably the main reason why so many lads not there ARE NOT there. IMO he should not have been given a third year, it looks like his lost the dressing room. I'm obviously being biased but who were the stand out club side last year, the current county champions Crotta. What representation have we on Sunday's team, Billy Keane and Thomas O'Connor only - warming the bench. Is that because Trant and Barry O'Mahoney are on the extended training panel for the footballers? |
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Post by thehermit on Apr 19, 2024 11:42:03 GMT
That's all well and good, but I doubt I'm the only one thinking that Molomphy is probably the main reason why so many lads not there ARE NOT there. IMO he should not have been given a third year, it looks like his lost the dressing room. I'm obviously being biased but who were the stand out club side last year, the current county champions Crotta. What representation have we on Sunday's team, Billy Keane and Thomas O'Connor only - warming the bench. Is that because Trant and Barry O'Mahoney are on the extended training panel for the footballers? Maybe but there's more than those two who should be on the Kerry hurling panel from Kilflynn! |
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Post by kerryexile5 on Apr 19, 2024 19:43:35 GMT
Few interesting pieces in kerryman today talking to Mackessy and Molomphy who made a great point saying theres no point talking about lads that would be great if they trained its the lads with there shoulder to the wheel we want.Fionan said league and championship different ball game and kerry wont fear anyone. Hopefully things click for Kerry and win at least two rounds That's all well and good, but I doubt I'm the only one thinking that Molomphy is probably the main reason why so many lads not there ARE NOT there. IMO he should not have been given a third year, it looks like his lost the dressing room. I'm obviously being biased but who were the stand out club side last year, the current county champions Crotta. What representation have we on Sunday's team, Billy Keane and Thomas O'Connor only - warming the bench. Moloumphy had lost the dressing room as far back as last year so I am told. Even the way he handled the whole Shane Nolan fiasco in 2022, Moloumohy rushed to the papers to say Nolan dropped himself off the panel because he couldn’t accept being dropped. He didn’t need to say that to the Kerryman paper. I’ve a feeling the Crotta lads didn’t really wanted to play for him anymore after how to treated Nolan publicly. Moloumphy was too stubborn to walk away at the end of 2023 when he wasn’t wanted by most of the players and now he is paying the price and Kerry could pay the ultimate price of relegation to the Christy Ring if things go badly. Kerry County Board should definitely hire a Kerry native as manager in 2024. |
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Post by thehermit on Apr 19, 2024 22:03:31 GMT
That's all well and good, but I doubt I'm the only one thinking that Molomphy is probably the main reason why so many lads not there ARE NOT there. IMO he should not have been given a third year, it looks like his lost the dressing room. I'm obviously being biased but who were the stand out club side last year, the current county champions Crotta. What representation have we on Sunday's team, Billy Keane and Thomas O'Connor only - warming the bench. Moloumphy had lost the dressing room as far back as last year so I am told. Even the way he handled the whole Shane Nolan fiasco in 2022, Moloumohy rushed to the papers to say Nolan dropped himself off the panel because he couldn’t accept being dropped. He didn’t need to say that to the Kerryman paper. I’ve a feeling the Crotta lads didn’t really wanted to play for him anymore after how to treated Nolan publicly. Moloumphy was too stubborn to walk away at the end of 2023 when he wasn’t wanted by most of the players and now he is paying the price and Kerry could pay the ultimate price of relegation to the Christy Ring if things go badly. Kerry County Board should definitely hire a Kerry native as manager in 2024. Don't start about that Shane story boll*x, like you said he went running off to the press inventing some BS about how Shane walked off - not expecting Shane to come out and set the record straight. Look I'm not one of these forum warriors, but I do think our current manager is one of these people who can't deal with people questioning his authority. It's that army mentality combined with the insecurity of a first inter-county job - my way of the high way. Well and good if you've earned to be like that and you're coaching the likes of Limerick or Kilkenny etc. When you're in a county like Kerry you either have the sense to understand its a situation that requires some common sense and leeway or you crash and burn. It's probably going to be a long summer for Kerry hurling, depressing when you think we were McD finalists 2021 and 2022 and we were a puck of a ball away from landing it against Antrim on the second occasion  |
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Post by mossie on Apr 19, 2024 23:55:03 GMT
That's all well and good, but I doubt I'm the only one thinking that Molomphy is probably the main reason why so many lads not there ARE NOT there. IMO he should not have been given a third year, it looks like his lost the dressing room. I'm obviously being biased but who were the stand out club side last year, the current county champions Crotta. What representation have we on Sunday's team, Billy Keane and Thomas O'Connor only - warming the bench. Moloumphy had lost the dressing room as far back as last year so I am told. Even the way he handled the whole Shane Nolan fiasco in 2022, Moloumohy rushed to the papers to say Nolan dropped himself off the panel because he couldn’t accept being dropped. He didn’t need to say that to the Kerryman paper. I’ve a feeling the Crotta lads didn’t really wanted to play for him anymore after how to treated Nolan publicly. Moloumphy was too stubborn to walk away at the end of 2023 when he wasn’t wanted by most of the players and now he is paying the price and Kerry could pay the ultimate price of relegation to the Christy Ring if things go badly. Kerry County Board should definitely hire a Kerry native as manager in 2024. I dont believe that is true re Crotta players One of them is captain of Kerry and the Crotta captain from 2023 is on the kerry panel. Some of the better Crotta players have moved abroad for work and study and only made occasional appearances for the club this year so whoever was manager of kerry wouldnt have made much difference I would be open to an idea of a native manager but some of the better candidates might not be available or interested. There isnt a big pot to go for a native manager, heck the pot for a manager for the senior football team isnt even huge! |
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Post by mossie on Apr 19, 2024 23:59:10 GMT
If he’s looking at it rationally the hurlers aren’t going to do anything in the Joe McDonagh while it’s his last year of u20 football The young man loves the game of hurling by all accounts, his rationale may be lets play as much of it as I can and maybe the thoughts of which code has a better chance of success may not be the overriding factor |
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Post by mossie on Apr 20, 2024 0:09:09 GMT
The u20 footballers are out again next Wednesday and the following Wednesday. Something has to give. Hazarding a guess that the hurlers will have to concede. You’d imagine a 19 year old could play a hurling match Sunday and be fully recovered in time to play a football match by Wednesday evening. Not ideal in terms of training for each code I will agree. Is there a need to start Luke next Wednesday? It would take a pretty unusual sequence of events for Kerry not to qualify for the final at this stage The hurlers should nearly also hold him in reserve until half time - the reality Kerry need to target the Down match and Meath match and these are the matches where Luke needs to fresh and fit for |
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Post by mossie on Apr 20, 2024 0:13:48 GMT
I’d have to agree it’s probably our weakest starting line up for a championship game in a long time. Dan Goggin another massive loss, one of Kerry’s best players in the league this year. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a few changes to the starting 15 before throw in, possibly Brandon Barrett and Gavin Dooley to come in It looks weak alright especially in the forwards, Goggin was very impressive in the league Barrett and Dooley are better than some of the other forwards named in the 15 |
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Post by powerhurl on Apr 20, 2024 7:19:10 GMT
Im hoping Kerry can at least push westmeath at least more than most think. If kerry are looking outside the county id go hard after Anthony Daly if interested he had knowledge of the scene and huge experience
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Post by hurlingman on Apr 20, 2024 8:28:27 GMT
That's all well and good, but I doubt I'm the only one thinking that Molomphy is probably the main reason why so many lads not there ARE NOT there. IMO he should not have been given a third year, it looks like his lost the dressing room. I'm obviously being biased but who were the stand out club side last year, the current county champions Crotta. What representation have we on Sunday's team, Billy Keane and Thomas O'Connor only - warming the bench. Moloumphy had lost the dressing room as far back as last year so I am told. Even the way he handled the whole Shane Nolan fiasco in 2022, Moloumohy rushed to the papers to say Nolan dropped himself off the panel because he couldn’t accept being dropped. He didn’t need to say that to the Kerryman paper. I’ve a feeling the Crotta lads didn’t really wanted to play for him anymore after how to treated Nolan publicly. Moloumphy was too stubborn to walk away at the end of 2023 when he wasn’t wanted by most of the players and now he is paying the price and Kerry could pay the ultimate price of relegation to the Christy Ring if things go badly. Kerry County Board should definitely hire a Kerry native as manager in 2024. While they never will the CB have to take some responsibility for what's happening with the hurlers this year. The issue with outside mangers are many. Lads from "hurling counties" with an ego of them knowing everything. Looking at it as a safe bet to get experience because if it doesn't work out they've lost nothing. It's getting close to 20 years now since a Kerry native managed the team and the list of names since most did very little in that time. Ian Brick would be the best option imo if available or interested. If it's another outside one it really needs to be someone with actual experience. |
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Post by veteran on Apr 20, 2024 8:59:44 GMT
You’d imagine a 19 year old could play a hurling match Sunday and be fully recovered in time to play a football match by Wednesday evening. Not ideal in terms of training for each code I will agree. Is there a need to start Luke next Wednesday? It would take a pretty unusual sequence of events for Kerry not to qualify for the final at this stage The hurlers should nearly also hold him in reserve until half time - the reality Kerry need to target the Down match and Meath match and these are the matches where Luke needs to fresh and fit for Agreed . Either way he should be used judiciously by both managements considering he has just returned from injury and the heavy, muddy conditions prevailing at present. |
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Post by legendz on Apr 20, 2024 20:20:06 GMT
The players staying away is a tricky one. Sure many of them have the talent but were they willing to put in the effort? Players not putting in the effort wouldn't get away with it in the football.
Down beat Meath today. On current form Kerry looks set to be battling against them.
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Post by kerryexile5 on Apr 20, 2024 22:46:44 GMT
Jack Goulding shines as London blow Sligo away in Christy Ring Cup
London 4-26 Sligo 0-12
Damian Dolan
Today at 16:14
Jack Goulding scored 2-13 as London produced a second half blitz to despatch Sligo at McGovern Park on Saturday, and make it two wins from two in their bid to reach a first Christy Ring final since 2018.
It was in the end a comprehensive victory for Neil Rogers’ side, which followed their impressive 11-point win against Tyrone in Dungannon.
Get past Wicklow at Ruislip next Saturday – a team the Exiles beat by 15 points there in the league – and London will put themselves within striking distance of a place in the final.
But Rogers’ men certainly didn’t have it all their own way against Sligo, and Stephen Sheil would have been by far the happier manager at the break, as the Yeatsmen went in all square (0-9 a piece) having played the first half into a strong wind.
Sligo were far more fluid and sharper in their play, with London struggling to click into gear.
But crucially Goulding had the ball in the back of the visitors’ net within 17 seconds of the restart, and further goals inside the opening ten minutes from Sean Glynn and Goulding saw the home side burst into a 3-13 to 0-10 lead.
Glynn’s major, which was still rising as it flew past Luke Comerford, was the pick of the bunch.
That took the sting out of the game and London cantered home from there. Glynn added the icing with a last-gasp fourth goal.
For Sligo, the 2019 Nickey Rackard champions, another heavy defeat on the back of their 11-point loss to Kildare in round one.
Scorers:
London: J Goulding 2-13 (8f); S Glynn 2-4; R Crowley 0-4; T Millerick 0-2; R Murphy, O Sheil, K Reid 0-1.
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Post by hurlingman on Apr 21, 2024 7:23:05 GMT
The players staying away is a tricky one. Sure many of them have the talent but were they willing to put in the effort? Players not putting in the effort wouldn't get away with it in the football. Down beat Meath today. On current form Kerry looks set to be battling against them. True but also the structure needs to be put in place for them as well to fully commit to it. |
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Post by thehermit on Apr 21, 2024 13:37:58 GMT
Great first half performance by Kerry, I just hope they have the fitness and energy to keep this up for next 35mins.
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Post by thehermit on Apr 21, 2024 14:35:02 GMT
Wow what a performance today by the boys in Mullingar. If you ever doubted that league is league and Championship is Championship!
To get a result like that, a 6 point win, against the favorites for the competition.
I'll tip my hat to Stephen Moloumphy. I'm not his biggest fan but he deserves huge credit for his team's performance today!
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Post by veteran on Apr 21, 2024 14:58:30 GMT
Congratulations to the hurlers . Great win away from home. Perhaps somebody at the match could throw up a report, however brief.
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Post by hurlingman on Apr 21, 2024 15:07:43 GMT
A great win. Will definitely take a bit of pressure off now going forward.
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Post by powerhurl on Apr 21, 2024 16:04:45 GMT
Some result for Kerry listening to radio they were in control. Like hermit said league and championship too different animals
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Post by legendz on Apr 21, 2024 16:30:53 GMT
Fantastic result! Didn't see that one coming. Kerry lost the opening round two years ago and then made the final. Hopefully they can build on today's win and not leave it be the outlier. Down at home next.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 21, 2024 16:36:53 GMT
Laois beat Offaly.
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Post by Jo90 on Apr 21, 2024 19:13:10 GMT
Well done Kerry. Completely written off.
Their league conversion rate was 50%. Against Westmeath it was 72%.
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Post by kerryexile5 on Apr 21, 2024 19:47:31 GMT
I’ll hold my hand up too, I was sure a hammering was on the cards.
If Kerry can beat Down next weekend in Tralee they will be in a very good place for the rest of the competition.
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Post by powerhurl on Apr 21, 2024 20:23:28 GMT
What is the story with Dan Goggins injury
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Post by legendz on Apr 21, 2024 20:28:02 GMT
One swallow doesn't make a summer despite the fine weather this weekend! Hats off to the management and the matchday squad. Completely written off and they came up with a massive performance. Backing it up is another matter. Before today's result, Down would have been looking at coming to Tralee to knock Kerry out of the top 4 this year. Down will still carry a threat as we know from two years ago in Tralee.
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Post by kerryexile5 on Apr 21, 2024 21:43:44 GMT
One swallow doesn't make a summer rdespite the fine weather this weekend! Hats off to the management and the matchday squad. Completely written off and they came up with a massive performance. Backing it up is another matter. Before today's result, Down would have been looking at coming to Tralee to knock Kerry out of the top 4 this year. Down will still carry a threat as we know from two years ago in Tralee. One swallow doesn’t make a summer, but like Waterford in the Munster round robin today everyone was writing off this Kerry team and a big win in round 1, means lads have a spring in their step heading into training all week in Tralee. I agree with you, Kerry can struggle against Down so they need to bring the same focus and hunger as today. |
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Post by homerj on Apr 22, 2024 8:42:24 GMT
how does it work with getting to a final, top 2 straight into it or what?
superb win.
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Post by legendz on Apr 22, 2024 11:33:19 GMT
how does it work with getting to a final, top 2 straight into it or what? superb win. Top two into final. Harsh on Kildare to be in the Ring, personally I think the McDonagh should a group of 8, with top 4 after 7 rounds into semi-finals. The final then being curtain raiser to an All-Ireland semi-final. McDonagh teams joining the preliminary quarter-finals would have so be sacrificed however. Anyway a matter for another day and the powers that be. Westmeath seem to have been caught off guard by Kerry's intensity and energy. There's often a kick back from teams who lose in the opening round. Not a concern against Down who got their win. Kerry have had enough games against Down on recent years to be focused. |
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