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Post by thehermit on Jan 8, 2022 19:16:42 GMT
Personally I'd want a McDonagh Cup, but its going to be though as always though. Offaly (who are back up in Division 1A this year) will be in the McDonagh as will Antrim
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Post by veteran on Jan 8, 2022 20:07:18 GMT
Wonderful win regardless of the strength of the Tipperary team. Coupled with Kilmoyley’s win also against Tipp opposition, this is a huge morale booster, regardless of what the immediate future holds. Of all the traditional hurling strongholds , Tipperary historically are the ones who tend to deal mercilessly with whippersnappers.
We recently beat Cork in this competition and of course we had a famous championship win over Waterford. To close the circle, have we ever beaten Clare and Limerick in modern times?
P.S. In fairness to Clubber.ie it did take them long to refund the €10. I hope last Wednesday’s debacle does not impact on them too negatively. I presume they will go ahead with streaming the Tipp game.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jan 8, 2022 20:39:17 GMT
Having beaten was it The Lilywhites I recall Westmeath fans chorusing 'bring on the Royals' - so now 'bring on the Cats', King Henry will be shaking in his boots!
The double is on for sure!
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Post by southward on Jan 8, 2022 21:02:34 GMT
Wonderful win regardless of the strength of the Tipperary team. Coupled with Kilmoyley’s win also against Tipp opposition, this is a huge morale booster, regardless of what the immediate future holds. Of all the traditional hurling strongholds , Tipperary historically are the ones who tend to deal mercilessly with whippersnappers. We recently beat Cork in this competition and of course we had a famous championship win over Waterford. To close the circle, have we ever beaten Clare and Limerick in modern times?
P.S. In fairness to Clubber.ie it did take them long to refund the €10. I hope last Wednesday’s debacle does not impact on them too negatively. I presume they will go ahead with streaming the Tipp game. Beat Clare in the league in the nineties. Clare were the reigning AI champions too.
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 8, 2022 21:59:03 GMT
A Parnells man in the fullback line, the half backline and the half forward line.
The lad in the half forward line was Brian Lonergan the lad Jack played in goals in two u20 seasons for Kerry footballers.
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Post by mossie on Jan 8, 2022 22:27:58 GMT
A Parnells man in the fullback line, the half backline and the half forward line. The lad in the half forward line was Brian Lonergan the lad Jack played in goals in two u20 seasons for Kerry footballers. Lonergan is a keen hurler, mad for the small ball not sure any of the Parnells lads started in the end for various reasons, great to see in the squad though, Tralee town with players on the squad, Brick and Lonergan are actually Ballymac , with Matthew Flaherty Dingle playing for Kilmoyley , it is clear lads from non traditional hurling territory want to hurl now what a boost for hurling in Kerry on top of today if Kilmoyley can pull it off tomorrow
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Post by thepromisedland on Jan 8, 2022 22:54:51 GMT
A Parnells man in the fullback line, the half backline and the half forward line. The lad in the half forward line was Brian Lonergan the lad Jack played in goals in two u20 seasons for Kerry footballers. Lonergan is a keen hurler, mad for the small ball not sure any of the Parnells lads started in the end for various reasons, great to see in the squad though, Tralee town with players on the squad, Brick and Lonergan are actually Ballymac , with Matthew Flaherty Dingle playing for Kilmoyley , it is clear lads from non traditional hurling territory want to hurl now what a boost for hurling in Kerry on top of today if Kilmoyley can pull it off tomorrow Absolutely Mossie. I think that this is a terrific result, maybe the Munster League Co-Op v a Tipperary second string with 3 regulars on it, but we were missing a lot today as well. Molumpy's new broom sweeps in, hopefully with a freshness of ideas and zest to succeed. I've been following the Kerry hurlers a long time now, since that excellent performance through the All-Ireland Liam Mccarthy Qualifers v Limerick way back in the days of yore! Lost by 7 points, but that was a terrific summer's evening in Tralee. They got a standing ovation from everyone leaving the pitch in the end. I'd really love for our hurlers to do well, in fact everything that is about Kerry, to do well. Its positive and hopefully a step in the right direction.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jan 8, 2022 23:12:30 GMT
A Parnells man in the fullback line, the half backline and the half forward line. The lad in the half forward line was Brian Lonergan the lad Jack played in goals in two u20 seasons for Kerry footballers. Lonergan is a keen hurler, mad for the small ball not sure any of the Parnells lads started in the end for various reasons, great to see in the squad though, Tralee town with players on the squad, Brick and Lonergan are actually Ballymac , with Matthew Flaherty Dingle playing for Kilmoyley , it is clear lads from non traditional hurling territory want to hurl now what a boost for hurling in Kerry on top of today if Kilmoyley can pull it off tomorrow Mark Heffernan of Crokes started. Paudie Aherne sounds like he’ll be a good addition, scored 3 points from play today. He has a brother as well who’ll be playing I think. I know some weren’t too happy to see outside players playing based on the parent rule, but if a player is a good bit better than what we have I’d have no problem with it. If it’s even, choose the Kerry club man but if the player will add something, then it’s definitely worth it. Westmeath beat Kerry in the Joe McDonagh final last year, and Davy Glennon who previously played for Galway played a huge part for them. We’d definitely have swapped places with them that day!
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 9, 2022 0:02:37 GMT
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SAT, 08 JAN, 2022 - 17:02 MORTIMER MURPHY 2022 Co-Op Superstores Munster Hurling Cup
Kerry 0-17
Tipperary 0-14
New Kerry manager Stephen Molumphy enjoyed a dream start in the role with his side recording a first-ever senior hurling win over Tipperary in Austin Stack Park, Tralee on Saturday.
Kerry were in a determined mood from the outset and hurled with hunger and conviction. Shane Conway ran the show from midfield and the home defence were outstanding with a relentless workrate that caught Tipperary by surprise.
Yes, this result in the Munster Hurling Cup comes with a health warning given that Tipperary had only two regulars.
But few can quibble with the importance of an outcome like this as Molumphy plans for the season ahead.
Kerry led 0-4 to 0-3 at the water beak with Limerick club man Paudie Ahearn impressing while Conway was working his magic throughout the field.
By half time Kerry led 0-9 to 0-6, with the mercurial Conway firing over 0-5 while full back Fionan Mackessy and Shane Nolan landed long range efforts as Kerry were physically dominating Tipperary in every facet of play.
Tipperary were completely reliant on Sean Ryan who converted four frees in the first half, and three more after the break, with the visitors only managing three points from play.
The Premier County shot 18 wides, and though they upped their game in the second half, Colm Bonnar admitted that they left themselves too much to do.
By the 50th minute, Tipp closed the gap to 0-11 to 0-10 but Kerry were not to be denied as Michael Leane, Gavin Dooley and Conway (free) struck for points to make it 0-14 to 0-10 at the second water break.
Dylan Walsh scored four frees on his introduction, but Kerry responded with Shane Conway setting up Sean Sheehan who was upended for a penalty in the 76th minute.
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Barry Hogan saved the strike brilliantly but Kerry finished in style as points from Aherne and the outstanding Conway sealed the win A date with All-Ireland champions Limerick awaits next Friday night.
Scorers for Kerry: S Conway (0-9, 6fs), P Aherne (0-3), M Leane, C Harty, S Nolan 1f), G Dooley and F Mackessy 0-1 each.
Scorers for Tipperary: S Ryan (0-7fs), D Walsh (4fs), R Byrne, C Stakelum and W Connors (0-1 each).
KERRY: Louis Dee (Mungret, Limerick), Conor O’Keeffe (Lixnaw), Fionan Mackessy (St Brendans), Sean Weir (Crotta O’Neills), Michael Leane (Ballyheigue), Eric Leen (St Brendans), Eoin Ross (Ballyduff), Colin Walsh (Ballyheigue), Colum Harty (Causeway), Shane Nolan (Crotta O’Neills), Shane Conway (Lixnaw), Gavin Dooley (Causeway), Mark Heffernan (Dr Crokes), Paudie Ahern (Killeedy, Limerick), James Sheehan (Crotta O’Neills).
Subs: Brian Lonergan (Tralee Parnells) for C Harty (47), Michael O’Leary (Abbeydorney) for J Sheehan (50)
TIPPERARY: Barry Hogan (Kildangan), Daragh Carey (Templderry Kenyons), James Quigley (Kildangan), Craig Morgan (Kilruane MacDonaghs), Eoghan Connolly (Cashel King Cormacs), Robert Byrne (Portroe), Paddy Cadell (JK Brackens), Dan McCormack (Borris-Ileigh), Sean Curran (CJ Kickhams Mullinahone), Ger Browne (Cashel King Cormacs), Conor Stakelum (Thurles Sarsfield), Rian Doody (Cappawhite), Sean Ryan (Templderry Kenyons), Paul Flynn (Kildangan), Kian O’Kelly (Kilruane MacDonaghs).
Subs: Cathal Barrett (Holycross-Ballycahill) for P Cadell (18), Declan McGrath (Kildangan) for D Carey (inj, 25), Willie Connors (Kildangan) for R Doody (ht), Seamus Kennedy (St Mary’s) for S Curran (54), Dylan Walsh (Ballingarry) for K O’Kelly (56)
Referee: Ciaran O’Regan (Cork)
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Post by kerryexile5 on Jan 9, 2022 0:54:19 GMT
From talking to a few at the match today it seems a few players walked away/fell out with the new management team due to the extremely high level of commitment and professionalism that Stephen Molumphy has brought to the set up.
It is great to see a new manager wanting to set his standards very high for the squad.
It’s a shame lads walked away but at the end of the day if you want to make the step up to the elite level in hurling it can’t be a 85% effort, it’s 110% all in or nothing.
I am liking the cut of Molumphy already.
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Post by mossie on Jan 9, 2022 1:39:59 GMT
From talking to a few at the match today it seems a few players walked away/fell out with the new management team due to the extremely high level of commitment and professionalism that Stephen Molumphy has brought to the set up. It is great to see a new manager wanting to set his standards very high for the squad. It’s a shame lads walked away but at the end of the day if you want to make the step up to the elite level in hurling it can’t be a 85% effort, it’s 110% all in or nothing. I am liking the cut of Molumphy already. maybe there is a bit too much made of those not involved this year. some had long service given to the hurlers and may have seen the writing on the wall, enthusiam waning, and it was just the natural end of things. Walking away is not a term I would use in such circumstances for lads that were with Kerry a long time Others, well you see it in Kerry football as well and elsewher, players just have other priorities, in Dublin football Jack McCaffrey and Paul Mannion in their prime decided there was other things in life, Rory o'Carroll did a few years ago too In hurling counties like Kerry, losing players is a bigger deal because of the relatively small pot to replace them in the squad Molumphy has a few players who have recommitted too this year having missed 2021 and a few back from injury, so that compensates for some of those gone. We need a full back though, no way can we confine Mackessey to full back for the year, he is superb further out, pity Evan Murphy injured( huge loss) anyways a very good start to the season
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Post by mossie on Jan 9, 2022 1:48:57 GMT
Just read that John B O’Halloran, Darren Delaney, Jason Diggins, Tomás O’Connor, Barry Mahony, Brendan O’Leary, Bryan Murphy, James O’Connor and Cian Hussey are not involved this year. Seems a very high amount opting out who were available last year. Anybody know the reasons behind it? Also see that another two Limerick club players have joined the setup along with the two brothers previously mentioned; a goalkeeper who’s father is from Ballydonoghue and a full forward who has Dingle connections. Barry Mahony is with the Kerry hurlers this year, he is carrying an injury at present. I think 4 x Limerick outsiders is a bit much when the new management team has barely pucked a ball but maybe the management team felt they had no choice with the 8 or 9 lads opting out. Tipperary tomorrow is a good chance to play against strong opposition at the start of the year and see where players are at! Barry never found form for the hurlers in 2021, he wasnt helped by been moved around from position to position from game to game. Kinda looked like a lad that was managing an injury too If he can get a bit of rest and get injury free, he can be close enough to the best hurler Kerry has. He is that good. I would love to see Donal O'Sullivan Kilgarvan having a cut off the kerry senior hurling, superb hurler, better hurler than footballer in my opinion. He has a lot of injuries though and maybe his eye is on football
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Post by kerryexile5 on Jan 9, 2022 11:12:53 GMT
Barry Mahony is with the Kerry hurlers this year, he is carrying an injury at present. I think 4 x Limerick outsiders is a bit much when the new management team has barely pucked a ball but maybe the management team felt they had no choice with the 8 or 9 lads opting out. Tipperary tomorrow is a good chance to play against strong opposition at the start of the year and see where players are at! Barry never found form for the hurlers in 2021, he wasnt helped by been moved around from position to position from game to game. Kinda looked like a lad that was managing an injury too If he can get a bit of rest and get injury free, he can be close enough to the best hurler Kerry has. He is that good. I would love to see Donal O'Sullivan Kilgarvan having a cut off the kerry senior hurling, superb hurler, better hurler than footballer in my opinion. He has a lot of injuries though and maybe his eye is on football I think deep down Barry wants to play for the Kerry footballers and his hurling is suffering because of this. I agree, if he gives his full attention to the hurling the sky is the limit for Barry. He was a better all round hurler than Shane Conway at minor level and that is saying something!
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 9, 2022 11:35:33 GMT
Could yesterday's victory and display result in some of the players that previously opted out having a change of heart and consider a return to the fold?
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Post by thehermit on Jan 9, 2022 17:23:23 GMT
What a weekend for Kerry hurling. Incredible stuff from the Kilmoyley boys. It was looking very ominous there in the second half but they never dropped the heads.
Judging by the RK commentary the ref was giving them nothing either and was letting Rangers away with plenty.
To deal with that and being 4 down and still battle back to force extra time and then find an extra gear - wow, just brilliant stuff. Daniel Collins was immense, sounded like he was everywhere.
A couple of days to savoir for our hurling Kingdom!!
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Post by kerryexile5 on Jan 9, 2022 17:29:07 GMT
What a weekend for Kerry hurling. Incredible stuff from the Kilmoyley boys. It was looking very ominous there in the second half but they never dropped the heads. Judging by the RK commentary the ref was giving them nothing either and was letting Rangers away with plenty. To deal with that and being 4 down and still battle back to force extra time and then find an extra gear - wow, just brilliant stuff. Daniel Collins was immense, sounded like he was everywhere. A couple of days to savoir for our hurling Kingdom!! Daniel Collins and Paudie O Connor were excellent for Kilmoyley but Dougie Fitzelle in defence was the winning of the game. He must of cleared close to 40 balls and that is not an exaggeration! I am not sure what is in the water in that small parish of Kilmoyley but if other clubs in Kerry could bottle it, we’d be in a good place!
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 9, 2022 22:17:29 GMT
What a weekend for Kerry hurling. Incredible stuff from the Kilmoyley boys. It was looking very ominous there in the second half but they never dropped the heads. Judging by the RK commentary the ref was giving them nothing either and was letting Rangers away with plenty. To deal with that and being 4 down and still battle back to force extra time and then find an extra gear - wow, just brilliant stuff. Daniel Collins was immense, sounded like he was everywhere. A couple of days to savoir for our hurling Kingdom!! Daniel Collins and Paudie O Connor were excellent for Kilmoyley but Dougie Fitzelle in defence was the winning of the game. He must of cleared close to 40 balls and that is not an exaggeration! I am not sure what is in the water in that small parish of Kilmoyley but if other clubs in Kerry could bottle it, we’d be in a good place! Kilmoyley, like KK dont bother with football. You cant serve two masters.
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Post by homerj on Jan 9, 2022 22:58:53 GMT
congrats to Kilmoyley, what a win!
have done Kerry proud.
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Post by veteran on Jan 11, 2022 19:52:02 GMT
Michael Duignan is complaining about Kerry recruiting hurlers from outside the county in today’s Examimer. I am sympathetic to his views . Uneasy about this policy.
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Post by southward on Jan 11, 2022 20:27:07 GMT
Michael Duignan is complaining about Kerry recruiting hurlers from outside the county in today’s Examimer. I am sympathetic to his views . Uneasy about this policy. www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40783116.htmlI don't like it either. Happening in football too e.g. Conor Jordan of Stacks lining out for Clare.
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 11, 2022 21:52:01 GMT
I have good time for Michael Duignan but is he not talking out of both sides of his mouth.
He references 'recruitment policy' but it appears the players made the play to play for Kerry.
Duignan says that if an outsider had genuine Offaly roots that they would look at it as a one off situation.
How is that different to the Kerry situation?
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jan 11, 2022 22:27:16 GMT
I think Duignan s problem is that Kerry ate getting players that have no connection to Kerry. If that's true then I agree with him. I know a few years ago Kerry and other weaker counties were allowed field 2 or 3 players from other counties. I know Pa Kelly of Clare was one. I have no problem if a player has Kerry parentage or is living or working in the county but it makes a joke of the inter County scene if players that have no connections are allowed play for a county. Also its unfair on other counties. My impression is the 4 players all have Kerry parents?
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Post by kerryexile5 on Jan 11, 2022 23:11:11 GMT
I think Duignan s problem is that Kerry ate getting players that have no connection to Kerry. If that's true then I agree with him. I know a few years ago Kerry and other weaker counties were allowed field 2 or 3 players from other counties. I know Pa Kelly of Clare was one. I have no problem if a player has Kerry parentage or is living or working in the county but it makes a joke of the inter County scene if players that have no connections are allowed play for a county. Also its unfair on other counties. My impression is the 4 players all have Kerry parents? Correct all 4 Kerry players have one parent who is from Kerry. Very lazy analysis by Duignan. If Offaly were not in the Joe McDonagh Cup this year along with Kerry you wouldn’t of heard a peep out of him regarding this!
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 11, 2022 23:15:50 GMT
I think Duignan s problem is that Kerry ate getting players that have no connection to Kerry. If that's true then I agree with him. I know a few years ago Kerry and other weaker counties were allowed field 2 or 3 players from other counties. I know Pa Kelly of Clare was one. I have no problem if a player has Kerry parentage or is living or working in the county but it makes a joke of the inter County scene if players that have no connections are allowed play for a county. Also its unfair on other counties. My impression is the 4 players all have Kerry parents? It looks that way. It would help if we had the facts here. Kerry seem to have looked for the same dispensation that Westmeath got to play Glennon from Galway ....and it was the parentage rule that enabled Glennon to play for Westmeath. Duignan seems to agree with that provided a player has genuine Offaly roots. Very odd from Duignan
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 11, 2022 23:18:09 GMT
I think Duignan s problem is that Kerry ate getting players that have no connection to Kerry. If that's true then I agree with him. I know a few years ago Kerry and other weaker counties were allowed field 2 or 3 players from other counties. I know Pa Kelly of Clare was one. I have no problem if a player has Kerry parentage or is living or working in the county but it makes a joke of the inter County scene if players that have no connections are allowed play for a county. Also its unfair on other counties. Pa Kellys mother is from Kerry.
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 11, 2022 23:21:09 GMT
Well if that's the case then there is no argument. I have no problem with that scenario and Michael Duignan should nt either. I did nt like the situation a couple of years ago when players with no connections were allowed play with weaker counties but I'm all for players playing for a parents county if it suits or players working or living in a county also. Would people object to the son of Tomas O'Se playing for Kerry for example.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 11, 2022 23:35:14 GMT
I know this is a hurling thread, but isn't there strong talk of Pat Spillane Jnr after declaring for Sligo through his mother.
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Post by thepromisedland on Jan 12, 2022 0:19:47 GMT
What's good for the goose, is good for the gander, this has been going on for years, the Lowry's transferring from Offaly to Mayo, because of his Bord na Mòna transfer to Belacorrick Peat Station,Crossmolina in the mid 80's through work. He declared for Mayo then. I would much prefer the Kerry Thoroughbred / Basque style declarations, needs must, here. Molumphy feels maybe he has to do this, to strengthen our hand, seeing as a considerable number of our own players have opted out this year for the hurlers. Maybe, these players may reconsider in coming back now after last weekend's terrific achievements,maybe a masterstroke by Molumphy in creating competition within the squad with everybody available, therefore raising the standard. I maybe wrong, Who knows!
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 12, 2022 9:07:23 GMT
I know this is a hurling thread, but isn't there strong talk of Pat Spillane Jnr after declaring for Sligo through his mother. Have a look at the "Agus rud eile" thread.
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 12, 2022 9:08:05 GMT
Shane Horan (Dublin and Kilmacud Crokes) is playing football with Offaly as one of his parents are from Offaly. All done with the blessing of one Michael Duignan. "That bates Banagher" as they say I am losing respect for Duignan rapidly.
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