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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 4, 2018 20:31:22 GMT
Three cheers for Kieran Donaghy.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Aug 4, 2018 20:39:28 GMT
Three cheers for Kieran Donaghy. Could have been given a few mins at start of second half instead of being hauled off at half time. Prob last ever game. More to allow him get the cheer of the crowd. Ball into his was cat on first half
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Post by mandad on Aug 4, 2018 20:40:15 GMT
The display against Galway was nigh on unforgivable. A long winter ahead and the knives will be sharpening. Some exciting performances today by individual players. A tragedy that that might be the end of KD. Not brought on against Galway and for what? Playing golf? The future is a little bright but I've had enough of the management team myself. My patience is long but when gone, tis gone. The problem is he might be the best option we have. He has worked so hard for Kerry and I am being unkind. I'm sorry. I can tell you with some certainty that Kieran had permission from the manager to go to Donegall and play in a charity event there on the day in question. You are in the wrong lane there I'm afraid.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Aug 4, 2018 20:46:57 GMT
That nonsesne about donaghy and the golf is some old guff the lads on of the ball came up with. He was there with fitzmaurice knowledge.
Don't want Kearns as manager. Think he's not great tactically
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Post by tpo on Aug 4, 2018 20:47:20 GMT
Was Killian Young injured or just replaced
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Post by smalltalk on Aug 4, 2018 20:53:21 GMT
I guess with a man up and needing scores it made more sense to bring on a forward ...
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Post by greengold35 on Aug 4, 2018 20:55:08 GMT
Was Killian Young injured or just replaced Cribbin had kicked about 5points from play in the first half - definitely replaced. Successor to EF has to be Peter Keane or Pat O’Shea - Keane deserves a shot at it, O’Shea has proven himself at senior level.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 4, 2018 20:55:32 GMT
The display against Galway was nigh on unforgivable. A long winter ahead and the knives will be sharpening. Some exciting performances today by individual players. A tragedy that that might be the end of KD. Not brought on against Galway and for what? Playing golf? The future is a little bright but I've had enough of the management team myself. My patience is long but when gone, tis gone. The problem is he might be the best option we have. He has worked so hard for Kerry and I am being unkind. I'm sorry. I can tell you with some certainty that Kieran had permission from the manager to go to Donegall and play in a charity event there on the day in question. You are in the wrong lane there I'm afraid. Hands up here so. Makes his non appearance against Galway even more bizarre.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 4, 2018 20:56:17 GMT
That nonsesne about donaghy and the golf is some old guff the lads on of the ball came up with. He was there with fitzmaurice knowledge. Don't want Kearns as manager. Think he's not great tactically I think his overall philosophy on the game is good.
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Post by greengold35 on Aug 4, 2018 20:57:01 GMT
Three cheers for Kieran Donaghy. Totally endorse that - he has been some servant and shown tremendous leadership all of his career.
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Post by Jigz84 on Aug 4, 2018 21:01:55 GMT
That nonsesne about donaghy and the golf is some old guff the lads on of the ball came up with. He was there with fitzmaurice knowledge. Don't want Kearns as manager. Think he's not great tactically I think his overall philosophy on the game is good. He'd organise the team properly anyway.
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Post by taggert on Aug 4, 2018 21:03:20 GMT
That nonsesne about donaghy and the golf is some old guff the lads on of the ball came up with. He was there with fitzmaurice knowledge. Don't want Kearns as manager. Think he's not great tactically I think his overall philosophy on the game is good. Can you expand on not great tactically? I happen to think he would be an excellent choice. His teams have been more than the sum of their parts; they play entertaining football; they have an intensity and hard edge. He has also blooded young talent and is au-fait with the demands of the modern senior inter county setup.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 4, 2018 21:05:57 GMT
I think his overall philosophy on the game is good. Can you expand on not great tactically? I happen to think he would be an excellent choice. His teams have been more than the sum of their parts; they play entertaining football; they have an intensity and hard edge. He has also blooded young talent and is au-fait with the demands of the modern senior inter county setup. You will have to ask the more informed AWB. That isn't sarcasm BTW.
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Post by taggert on Aug 4, 2018 21:08:46 GMT
My apologies, thought I had lifted AWB quote - it was addressed to aforementioned.
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Post by kerryborder on Aug 4, 2018 21:13:45 GMT
That First half was a continuation of the earlier two games. More of the same etc. This group dynamic and I include the management is operating at a level way below what is required at this level. Granted there are young players to be brought along but what has happened the group dynamic . It looks splintered and dysfunctional.
Any objective analysis suggests there are major problems and the bottom line is management has either not been able to resolve or indeed is the problem itself.
I don't want to kick anyone or group when they are down but i really found EF's RTE interview difficult listening. He was doing the group a favour etc is the party line. No hint of introspection etc. Poor Form. I expected a bit more than that from him.
As to the game itself once Kildare went down to 14 that was it really. Monaghan deserve to go through and good luck to them. We did'nt simple as.
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Post by southward on Aug 4, 2018 21:24:47 GMT
At least we finally saw 40 minutes in the super 8s of what Kerry can do. Pity it was too late. Nowhere better encapsulated than by JOD - he was taking on the world this evening; shame he didn't go for it at the end v Monaghan last week.
Madness by Neil Flynn for his red card. I was over the other side and didn't get a great view but it looked totally unnecessary. Kildare were well on top at that stage.
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Post by veteran on Aug 4, 2018 21:30:18 GMT
The result in Salthill ensured that the Killarney result is now only of academic interest. In any case , it has been overshadowed with Eamon's resignation.
Over th past year or two I have been as critical of him as the next man, baffled by team selections and poor judgement on the sideline when. a match was in progress. . Prior to that he gave us an unexpected All-Ireland , an unexpected NFL title and a hatful of. Munster titles. Not a bad haul.
A hallmark of Eamon's tenure was the dignity he always displayed , even on the most stressful of days. It is no surprise then that he leaves with the same dignity. His football judgement may have wavered at times in latter years but never his gentlemanly approach. Thanks Eamon for your noble contribution and I sincerely wish you health and happiness and continued success in your new post as principal .
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Post by john4 on Aug 4, 2018 21:40:32 GMT
Liam Kearns and Donie Buckley. Liam Kerins has agreed to stay on as the manager of the Tipperary Senior team for another year, this was announced by the Tipperary County board on Monday the 16th of July, the day after the Galway game. Kerry's precarious position in the 8's was not lost in Tipperary and they were quick to keep Kerins. Personally, I think he could do a good job. A friend of mine was on the Limerick team he was over around 10~12 years ago, he had nothing but good to speak of him, he had them flying. I don't know that much about him tactically but he would not be found wanting for preparation. Intercounty management is a bit of a circus in the summer, with media and all that Bullsh*t, having someone who is comfortable with this circus, rather than someone from scratch, could hit the ground running from next year.
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Post by ballintoy on Aug 4, 2018 21:45:35 GMT
The result in Salthill ensured that the Killarney result is now only of academic interest. In any case , it has been overshadowed with Eamon's resignation. Over th past year or two I have been as critical of him as the next man, baffled by team selections and poor judgement on the sideline when. a match was in progress. . Prior to that he gave us an unexpected All-Ireland , an unexpected NFL title and a hatful of. Munster titles. Not a bad haul. A hallmark of Eamon's tenure was the dignity he always displayed , even on the most stressful of days. It is no surprise then that he leaves with the same dignity. His football judgement may have wavered at times in latter years but never his gentlemanly approach. Thanks Eamon for your noble contribution and I sincerely wish you health and happiness and continued success in your new post as principal . Lovely post and to add Eamonn has three Celtic crosses himself. That anywhere outside of Kerry is legendary status. Veteran you seem a very sharp man I have been reading your posts for quite a while.Would you perhaps like to throw your hat in the ring for a side line position? I think you would have a lot to offer.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 4, 2018 21:56:19 GMT
Liam Kearns and Donie Buckley. Liam Kerins has agreed to stay on as the manager of the Tipperary Senior team for another year, this was announced by the Tipperary County board on Monday the 16th of July, the day after the Galway game. Kerry's precarious position in the 8's was not lost in Tipperary and they were quick to keep Kerins. Personally, I think he could do a good job. A friend of mine was on the Limerick team he was over around 10~12 years ago, he had nothing but good to speak of him, he had them flying. I don't know that much about him tactically but he would not be found wanting for preparation. Intercounty management is a bit of a circus in the summer, with media and all that Bullsh*t, having someone who is comfortable with this circus, rather than someone from scratch, could hit the ground running from next year. He'd renege fairly lively if Kerry came calling.
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Aug 4, 2018 22:09:45 GMT
Liam Kerins has agreed to stay on as the manager of the Tipperary Senior team for another year, this was announced by the Tipperary County board on Monday the 16th of July, the day after the Galway game. Kerry's precarious position in the 8's was not lost in Tipperary and they were quick to keep Kerins. Personally, I think he could do a good job. A friend of mine was on the Limerick team he was over around 10~12 years ago, he had nothing but good to speak of him, he had them flying. I don't know that much about him tactically but he would not be found wanting for preparation. Intercounty management is a bit of a circus in the summer, with media and all that Bullsh*t, having someone who is comfortable with this circus, rather than someone from scratch, could hit the ground running from next year. He'd renege fairly lively if Kerry came calling. Don't like Kearns, anyone who does interviews and consistently refers to "my player's just doesn't sit right with me. Had and have great Time for Eamon Fitz.
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Post by oldschool on Aug 4, 2018 22:12:17 GMT
Three cheers for Kieran Donaghy. Totally endorse that - he has been some servant and shown tremendous leadership all of his career. Hip Hip etc. True "STAR"
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Post by whitefire on Aug 4, 2018 22:28:44 GMT
Donie Buckley has to be involved in any new Kerry management team. Look how well Mayo tackled from 1-15 with him coaching them. That's what we lack in Kerry, if we could defend and a hit hard when other teams run directly at us, the forward play would look after itself.
Jack O'Connor with Donie Buckley, Peter Keane and Maurice Fitz (for continuity) would be a killer combination.
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Post by taggert on Aug 4, 2018 22:41:31 GMT
Jack has been clueless on the line for the last 3 years with the u21s. Lets not reward mediocrity.
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Post by john4 on Aug 4, 2018 22:44:52 GMT
Jack o Connor's style of play would make you weep, run forward to pass back.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Aug 4, 2018 22:49:11 GMT
It's just my opinion about Kearns. I'm not doubting he is a good manager etc but, just haven't seen anything from him that would make may say he's got a great tactical brain. It all depends what team he puts in place. I think tipp have been exposed as a bit tactically niave at times, like against cork this year and the semi with mayo a few years back. Tipp play nice football but, I would just be worried about the structure of our team. He could be the perfect fit and I could be totally wrong. One of my regrets of Eamonn and his poor last few years in charge is that Maurice Fitz might be tainted by asssociaton and never get a shot at the top job. I think he did a fine job with the Mary's and had them playing a lovely brand of football but we'll drilled at the same time. Realistically if we don't give it to Kearns and Pat O'Shea doesn't want it or can't get clearance from the Munster council are we looking at a Rookie inter county manager at senior level? Jack has blotted his copybook some what the last 2 years. Can't really think of anyone that stands out in the club game. Steven Wallace ??
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 4, 2018 22:57:47 GMT
For all the back slapping here flagging Monaghan as the best team in the group Kerry drew with them in Clones.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 23:01:11 GMT
Laughable to hear Liam Kearns being mentioned after being hammered by cork
Only candidates are pat o shea and Keane
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 4, 2018 23:01:18 GMT
Donie Buckley has to be involved in any new Kerry management team. Look how well Mayo tackled from 1-15 with him coaching them. That's what we lack in Kerry, if we could defend and a hit hard when other teams run directly at us, the forward play would look after itself. Jack O'Connor with Donie Buckley, Peter Keane and Maurice Fitz (for continuity) would be a killer combination. Lots of personality clashes there. Cats in a bag. Pat O'Shea would seem to have best understanding of the modern game in Kerry.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 4, 2018 23:01:26 GMT
For all the back slapping here flagging Monaghan as the best team in group Kerry drew with them in Clones. Kerry scored a last minute goal against them. They were clearly the better side overall.
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