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Post by An Bradán on Mar 12, 2018 12:58:15 GMT
One thing that struck me yesterday was the way Dublin lay off passes and then block the opposition from getting to the kicker - this creates that little bit of space for the kicker and also frustrates the opponents who are prevented (legally??) from getting at the guy with the ball. When we lay off the ball the receiver is not getting this type of protection or am I imaginng things. Also I am not all that bothered about yesterdays loss or even the scale of it - it will serve us well and is invaluable experience for the younger lads. If that does not focus the mind for training and effort nothing will. Remember he who laughs last laughs longest and I will be 100% happy if we only beat them once this year provided its in the knockout stages of the championship. This has come up before and it's very obvious they are using screening runs. These are little passing arcs where the passer is then in a position where he is blocking the opposition tackler. This has been the case for years and teams are not adapting or indeed adopting it either.
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Post by skybluezone on Mar 12, 2018 14:03:04 GMT
Just a couple of points. When I saw the Kerry team earlier in the week I thought they'd do well to keep the gap to 6 or less. Then James McCarthy gave an interview intimating that Dublin were going to make a 'statement' for want of a better word. So I took advantage of the -6 with those kind people in Boylesports. Anyway the net point is it was extremely optimistic to think Kerry would get close to Dublin with 7/8 newcomers in the team. That's about 5 too many. That said they are all good footballers and they will get there eventually. First 15 minutes told us that. Clifford looks the real deal but OSullivan was marking him from behind. It's too late when he has the ball in hand, and he will hurt you. Eventually Cooper showed Cian the way and that threat was nullified. Last thing about the mini scuffles breaking out. I know Dublin have a couple who don't need a 2nd invitation to get stuck in, but a lot of the aggro is caused by teams getting fixated on 'laying down markers ' 'taking no *' 'drawing lines in the sand' and other banal platitudes. I was in Castlebar 2 weeks ago and it was more of the same rubbish. When you hear supporters yacking on with this crap you'd wonder does it get into opposition players heads that they have to be seen to be 'laying down a marker' against the big bad Dubs. Crowley thought he was the terminator yesterday with all the late hits he put in, but did he play any football at all? He appears to be doing something but is he really? So teams need to forget about laying down markers in the physical sense as it doesn't appear to be working. No point in being a hero to the fans for putting in late hits and guy your supposed to be marking is wiping the floor with you in a football sense. Priceless comment with McMahon, Cooper, MDMC etc in your team. Get back into your garden. Crowley put in a fair and square championship shoulder on Fenton. You obviously missed the sentence "Dublin have 1 or 2 that don't need a 2nd invitation to get stuck in Crowley teed up Fenton when the ball was gone. My point was he spends a lot of his time doing that when he would be better off playing ball.
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Post by skybluezone on Mar 12, 2018 14:04:53 GMT
Skybluezone, To be fair Clifford couldn’t do much in the second half regardless who was marking him, there was no quality ball coming in whatsoever so if Cian had stayed on him people would have said that he stepped up in the second half and nullified his threat. Regardless, it’s going to make the video review a hard watch for a lot of those lads when they have sit through it. Think you need to mark Clifford from in front. If he gets the ball there is not a lot you can do to stop him.
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Post by skybluezone on Mar 12, 2018 14:08:15 GMT
Last thing about the mini scuffles breaking out. I know Dublin have a couple who don't need a 2nd invitation to get stuck in, but a lot of the aggro is caused by teams getting fixated on 'laying down markers ' 'taking no *' 'drawing lines in the sand' and other banal platitudes. I was in Castlebar 2 weeks ago and it was more of the same rubbish. When you hear supporters yacking on with this crap you'd wonder does it get into opposition players heads that they have to be seen to be 'laying down a marker' against the big bad Dubs. Crowley thought he was the terminator yesterday with all the late hits he put in, but did he play any football at all? He appears to be doing something but is he really? So teams need to forget about laying down markers in the physical sense as it doesn't appear to be working. No point in being a hero to the fans for putting in late hits and guy your supposed to be marking is wiping the floor with you in a football sense. And your thoughts Cian O'Sullivan throttling David Clifford by the throat for most of the first half? Or the 3 Dubs pilling in on top of Burns in the first half? No physical markers being put down there was there?? And that's just two of many incident's that I saw. If your going to live in glass house's you shouldn't really start throwing stones! And were the Dublin fans laying down a marker with the Ole Ole Ole's for every pass they made in the latter part of the second half. That was embarrassing and I for one hope to God it comes back to bite ye in the arse over the coming years as I doubt the Kerry players will forget it. There was no need for it whatsoever.... Not a fan of the Oles
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Post by skybluezone on Mar 12, 2018 14:12:36 GMT
Crowley operated as sweeper in the first half. He provided the main option for the kickout. I thought he played well. McCarthy, MDMA, Kilkenny and a few more decided to impose themselves ...putting it nicely....on certain young players. Darragh o Se did it for Kerry lots of time. You call me a clown. Stay classy. Just to point out 're your above post that McCarthy was nowhere near yesterday's action as he was sitting in the stand. Fair play to him for dishing it out from there! Now who is the clown???
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Post by buck02 on Mar 12, 2018 14:12:53 GMT
Is it safe to come back yet?
I wonder will anything happen from the Michael Burns incident in the first half. He went running after the ref at half time before turning back but the team doctor kept going to the ref. I assume it was to alert him to what happened when Burns and his man were on the ground.
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Post by jackiel on Mar 12, 2018 14:25:02 GMT
Micheal seemed to have a problem with this eyes when he emerged from the pile up. He was fuming and attempted to remonstrate with the ref. He kept putting his hands to his face in the minutes following the incident.
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Post by kerryexile on Mar 12, 2018 14:35:55 GMT
I tend to agree with Skybluezone in his comments re Peter Crowley. I acknowledge his physicality and I have no problem with him conceding a free after a thundering hit. You are getting value for your free at least. But what enrages me is when he gives away those baby frees, not the only Kerry defender to do so of course but he is round long enough to be able to tackle legally. Even allowing. for a lack of fitness at this at this time of the year , his pace seems to have diminished considerably. I repeat what I have said before , reposition him to the full back line where he starred for UCC some years ago. But they say EF is not receptive to advice. What was very noticeable in a good first half for us when we defended well and the ball away after putting in a good tackle always but always the broken ball was snapped up by a Dublin player giving them a second bite of the cherry. Lack of experience ? Lack of sharpness? Who was David trying to pick out with that quick free in the first half? The interception was a stake to the heart. Notwithstanng that mistake, I amazed at the progress he has made at this level. Ditto Sean O'Shea. I hope Sean is available the next day. As far as I am comcermed it is crucial that we win in order to stay up . Accordingly, we should turn out in our droves to push them on. I hope now there is not a huge influx of senior returnees nest weekend, particularly the ones who should have been culled over the winter. Consider this year as a long term investment. Veteran Dublin have been doing this for the last few years. Most players going for a 55/50 or going past a man ball will brace themselves for the physical contact and also prepare to win/keep possession. Dublin have split this into a 2 task project. First concentrate fully on the physical contact and make sure the opposition player is put at a complete disadvantage. Then the fact that the marker didn't focus on possession doesn't matter because they are now unmarked and pick up the ball and carry on. Sometimes there is another Dublin player waiting for the break. In Kerry's case the second player wouldn't have waited around but would have run forward to take a pass that will now never come. So following this passage of football there would be 2 Kerry players redundant as Dublin built an attack. This has been introduced from rugby. I heard Shane Horgan on the radio about a year ago explaining in detail how sub dividing tasks is now how rugby coaches ensure that nothing is left to chance.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 12, 2018 15:47:33 GMT
I tend to agree with Skybluezone in his comments re Peter Crowley. I acknowledge his physicality and I have no problem with him conceding a free after a thundering hit. You are getting value for your free at least. But what enrages me is when he gives away those baby frees, not the only Kerry defender to do so of course but he is round long enough to be able to tackle legally. Even allowing. for a lack of fitness at this at this time of the year , his pace seems to have diminished considerably. I repeat what I have said before , reposition him to the full back line where he starred for UCC some years ago. But they say EF is not receptive to advice. What was very noticeable in a good first half for us when we defended well and the ball away after putting in a good tackle always but always the broken ball was snapped up by a Dublin player giving them a second bite of the cherry. Lack of experience ? Lack of sharpness? Who was David trying to pick out with that quick free in the first half? The interception was a stake to the heart. Notwithstanng that mistake, I amazed at the progress he has made at this level. Ditto Sean O'Shea. I hope Sean is available the next day. As far as I am comcermed it is crucial that we win in order to stay up . Accordingly, we should turn out in our droves to push them on. I hope now there is not a huge influx of senior returnees nest weekend, particularly the ones who should have been culled over the winter. Consider this year as a long term investment. Veteran Dublin have been doing this for the last few years. Most players going for a 55/50 or going past a man ball will brace themselves for the physical contact and also prepare to win/keep possession. Dublin have split this into a 2 task project. First concentrate fully on the physical contact and make sure the opposition player is put at a complete disadvantage. Then the fact that the marker didn't focus on possession doesn't matter because they are now unmarked and pick up the ball and carry on. Sometimes there is another Dublin player waiting for the break. In Kerry's case the second player wouldn't have waited around but would have run forward to take a pass that will now never come. So following this passage of football there would be 2 Kerry players redundant as Dublin built an attack. This has been introduced from rugby. I heard Shane Horgan on the radio about a year ago explaining in detail how sub dividing tasks is now how rugby coaches ensure that nothing is left to chance. Some very good analysis going on here amongst the jibberish in this thread. I'm sure Kerry will use yesterday to learn a lot. David Clifford & Sean O'Shea were both excellent yesterday in the first half. Micheal Burns put in a great shift and having watched him at underage level for Kerry & Crokes at senior level last year I'm sure he has the game intelligence to become a very good senior player for Kerry. It is about taking the positives from the first half yesterday and building on that. Hopefully we'll go with same 15 again on Saturday. The second half should only be about looking for nuggets and learning from that. Have to say I'm very upbeat about yesterday despite how the game transpired. The Dubs are a class team, that is the only environment for young players to learn from.
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Post by decondd2 on Mar 12, 2018 16:34:59 GMT
Priceless comment with McMahon, Cooper, MDMC etc in your team. Get back into your garden. Crowley put in a fair and square championship shoulder on Fenton. You obviously missed the sentence "Dublin have 1 or 2 that don't need a 2nd invitation to get stuck in Crowley teed up Fenton when the ball was gone. My point was he spends a lot of his time doing that when he would be better off playing ball. Fenton went to clip Crowley to create space for the man with the ball. Dublin get away with these third man tackles all the time. Fenton deliberately changed his line to block Crowley off. Crowley was just the wrong guy to try and clip. Lowndes took Murphy out in the exact same way earlier in the half, right in front of the linesman. Thats not trying to say that Kerry players are angels and its all the big bad Dubs. Crowley gets involved several times off the ball. Burns has developed a habit of it as well. We had a few late tackles and high tackles (McCarthy and Spillane come to mind. Burns shoved Cluxton which drew a big reaction from the crowd though there was very little in it. Just in the incident where Fenton was hit, it was 100% his own doing in my opinion.
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Post by MeathExile on Mar 12, 2018 17:52:12 GMT
The last time I heard the 'ole ole' was 2001 vs Meath. These things have a habit of coming back to bite you....I'm sure it is being filed away by all playing yesterday.
The game can only be taken as a learning experience - the players will learn from it and improve. Hopefully all will receive a fair shot at it again next week. And surely Casey will get a fair chance to prove his worth. If not he would be well entitled to tell Fitz where to go.
What struck me in the stand with 10 minutes to go was the amount of Dubs leaving. It appears that they are getting tired of winning. The low attendance yesterday was indicative of what is happening - people are losing interest in the game due to one team dominating....what the GAA sows it reaps - will be interesting to see attendance numbers for Leinster matches.
In the pub after I dared to mention the biased funding that the Dubs have received in recent years - turns out it's a very touchy subject with the boys in blue to say the least. They don't want to hear it - the truth hurts apparently. Here's hoping Liam Sheedy gets the top job - if either of the other 2 get it there will be more of the same.
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Post by greenmen55 on Mar 12, 2018 17:59:11 GMT
Even though we suffered a bit of a beating yesterday I hope fitzmaurice doesn't resort back to the old dogs come summer time and abandon the new blood being brought through so far in this league campaign.Performances from the likes of Seanie o shea Michael Burns and of course David Clifford have all been encouraging but we still have a few defensive issues which will need tweaking if we are to compete in the latter stages of the championship as we struggle when a team runs down the heart of our defence and gift a lot of goal opportunities which will be converted when August and September come around
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Post by onlykerry on Mar 12, 2018 17:59:57 GMT
The game has developed a lot in terms of "off the ball" play and tactics - most are within (or at least not outside) the rules mainly because we don't have an offside rule and such tactics were not commonly used in the past and therefore not legislated for. This all feeds back to athleticism and fitness as the core of the modern game.
Reading today that Gavin has now added a soccer coach (UEFA A licenced coach who worked with the NI team amongst others) who specialises in opposition team analysis, this is in addition to his studies of basketball and rugby coaching techniques and tactics.
This level of preparation (profesionalism if you like) is pushing the gap between Dublin and the rest and comes back to the ugly and heated topic of funding.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 12, 2018 18:00:16 GMT
Anyone paying attention will realize that Dr.Crokes dominance in Kerry as well as other factors (socio-economic and otherwise) have neutered Kerry football. Economic factors are certainly an issue between say Dublin and the rest. If you suggest that Killarney as an economic powerhouse is a factor in Crokes' success then condemning them is no part of the solution. I'd more compliment and emulate them. I have long made this point on the economics aspect of the GAA but I was consistently shot down so maybe some lessons are learnt the hard way. As regards the yawning gulf between counties and while it is getting worse the improving economy will slow it down, albeit as growth filters through to rural Ireland. The underlying reasons are external to the GAA but because it suffers so much as the largest voluntary body then maybe it needs to get it's lobbying ducks in order. Otherwise the slide will continue and much of rural Ireland will become a backwater that hardly sees a car on the road from one end of the day to the next. The trend cannot be reversed but it can be minimised.
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Post by greengold35 on Mar 12, 2018 18:03:22 GMT
It is time for change? how long do we give this management team. It looks like they have lost their way with these players and don't know what to do next. Probably is time for change but it will not happen before the end of this year's championship. Management are currently not inspiring any confidence with huge rotations in the squad from match to match - e.g. 1. Adrian Spillane was in the squad in Monaghan, omitted from match day panel of 28 for the Galway game, back for the Dublin game in a starting role - I understand he was not injured. 2. Brendan O'Sullivan starts against Monaghan, replaced after 20 mins, wears 17 vs Galway, not utilised, not in panel for yesterdays game. 3. Killian Spillane was introduced in Galway game, not included in yesterdays squad, plays with Templenoe in county league. 4. Jack Savage - started against Monaghan, unused sub both games subsequently. 5. Kevin McCarthy - not named in any squad until this week end, starting position. To add to this, there are players who have been around the panel for quite a while who continue to get game time, seemingly irrespective of form/performances. The top 3 full backs from the minor winning teams of 2014-2017 were in my opinion - Brian O'Beaglaoich, Jason Foley and Tom O'Sullivan; we have the first two, why not slot O'Sullivan into corner back and persevere with him for a while? We can then choose from Paul Murphy, Gavin Crowley, Tadgh Morley, Killian Young, Peter Crowley, Gavin White for our half back line - maybe somebody like Daniel O'Brien could be considered - he should be interesting @ U-20 level this year - strong on the ball, great guy to break the tackle. Could he be considered for mid field in time? Midfield would seem to be Jack Barry and David Moran - not much other options though Diarmuid O'Connor is someone I expect to see next year challenging for a spot. Anthony Maher if returning/fit. Our six forwards have some stand outs - Paul Geaney, Sean O'Shea, David Clifford, James O'Donoghue - we can choose from Micheal Burns, Stephen O'Brien, Killian Spillane, maybe Conor Geaney - thats cutting a lot of guys from the panel but management need to be ruthless and have a clear vision of what they want. Brian O'Seanachain was a very effective " free man" in the 2015 and could be utilised in a sweeper role if we adopt such a tactic. I think we should persevere with Shane Murphy in goal - if not Brian Kelly seems to be the only other viable option.
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Post by dubaroo on Mar 12, 2018 18:10:00 GMT
The last time I heard the 'ole ole' was 2001 vs Meath. These things have a habit of coming back to bite you....I'm sure it is being filed away by all playing yesterday. The game can only be taken as a learning experience - the players will learn from it and improve. Hopefully all will receive a fair shot at it again next week. And surely Casey will get a fair chance to prove his worth. If not he would be well entitled to tell Fitz where to go. What struck me in the stand with 10 minutes to go was the amount of Dubs leaving. It appears that they are getting tired of winning. The low attendance yesterday was indicative of what is happening - people are losing interest in the game due to one team dominating....what the GAA sows it reaps - will be interesting to see attendance numbers for Leinster matches. In the pub after I dared to mention the biased funding that the Dubs have received in recent years - turns out it's a very touchy subject with the boys in blue to say the least. They don't want to hear it - the truth hurts apparently. Here's hoping Liam Sheedy gets the top job - if either of the other 2 get it there will be more of the same. Low attendance yesterday may have something to do with it being Mothers Day. That and we all know Kerry don't travel till the final....so ehm ya they don't travel too much lately! 😁
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Post by An Bradán on Mar 12, 2018 18:27:51 GMT
Wheels turn, clocks tick and time moves on. Our time will come again. Very unlikely to be this year but that day will come. Great teams and golden eras always come to an end. Like empires of old they usually end with crushing defeat. It's about being ready for that day and being utterly ruthless when it happens.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 12, 2018 18:50:12 GMT
The last time I heard oles (or aays?) was our good selves against Tyrone in the (?) 2012 qualifier in Killarney.
I wasn't innocent. I wouldn't do it again though.
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Post by kerryexile on Mar 12, 2018 19:18:33 GMT
The game is on EIR1 again at 8 this evening.
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Post by veteran on Mar 12, 2018 21:04:41 GMT
Slybluezone , I take your point re playing David Clifford from the front. However, could be dangerous of the right high ball is floated in behind the marker . David is a terrific fielder.
Kerryexile, that is a a very interesting analysis. No doubt every sport can benefit from tactics imported from other sports. This is where resources come into play I suppose.
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Post by thebluepanther on Mar 12, 2018 21:06:36 GMT
The last time I heard oles (or aays?) was our good selves against Tyrone in the (?) 2012 qualifier in Killarney. I wasn't innocent. I wouldn't do it again though. I don't like the oles, I hate when I hear it. But it's not only Dublin who do it, but of the Dublin support its a small section of clowns on the Hill that usually start it.( although I'll add that the older supporters on the Hill have no time for it) what happens then is teenagers who think it's cool join in. I've watched Dublin lose to many teams over the Years . I've had many opposition supporters gloat and sneer when we lost So I take nothing for granted and know the sick feeling of a bad defeat. I'll make no bones about the fact that I Love When Dublin Beat Kerry and I wanted the margin to be bigger yesterday. (Its not hatred , more payback for all those defeats we suffered at your hands) But there Is no enjoyment in rubbing It In to young lads some just out of Minor. who have trained hard and are doing their best.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 12, 2018 21:09:20 GMT
The last time I heard oles (or aays?) was our good selves against Tyrone in the (?) 2012 qualifier in Killarney. I wasn't innocent. I wouldn't do it again though. I don't like the oles, I hate when I hear it. But it's not only Dublin who do it, but of the Dublin support its a small section of clowns on the Hill that usually start it.( although I'll add that the older supporters on the Hill have no time for it) what happens then is teenagers who think it's cool join in. I've watched Dublin lose to many teams over the Years . I've had many opposition supporters gloat and sneer when we lost So I take nothing for granted and know the sick feeling of a bad defeat. I'll make no bones about the fact that I Love When Dublin Beat Kerry and I wanted the margin to be bigger yesterday. (Its not hatred , more payback for all those defeats we suffered at your hands) But there Is no enjoyment in rubbing It In to young lads some just out of Minor. who have trained hard and are doing their best. Was there an element of Dublin supporters laughing at Kerry in the second half yesterday?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 21:27:30 GMT
I know a good few did laugh when Clifford pulled up looking injured towards the end of the game. To be fair a few others told them to cop on.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 12, 2018 21:33:50 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 12, 2018 21:45:22 GMT
Wheels turn, clocks tick and time moves on. Our time will come again. Very unlikely to be this year but that day will come. Great teams and golden eras always come to an end. Like empires of old they usually end with crushing defeat. It's about being ready for that day and being utterly ruthless when it happens. I have read similar sentiments over the past few years but what logic is it based on. For the first time since the GAA started, Dublin has organised itself mainly funded by the GAA themselves. Four of the last eight U21s were won by Dublin. One third of all kids under 14 live in Dublin. The army can continue to be replenished indefinitely. The comparison with KK hurling is totally off the mark. No comparison.
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Post by piggott on Mar 12, 2018 22:01:53 GMT
As previously stated by other posters, the under 21 team's success or lack of it, is a better indicator of future senior prospects than minors. Hence our flop against Galway in 2017 is telling us more than the 4 in a row minors. Just wondering if the Under 20 competition will give the same indications.
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Post by skybluezone on Mar 12, 2018 22:08:09 GMT
You obviously missed the sentence "Dublin have 1 or 2 that don't need a 2nd invitation to get stuck in Crowley teed up Fenton when the ball was gone. My point was he spends a lot of his time doing that when he would be better off playing ball. Fenton went to clip Crowley to create space for the man with the ball. Dublin get away with these third man tackles all the time. Fenton deliberately changed his line to block Crowley off. Crowley was just the wrong guy to try and clip. Lowndes took Murphy out in the exact same way earlier in the half, right in front of the linesman. Thats not trying to say that Kerry players are angels and its all the big bad Dubs. Crowley gets involved several times off the ball. Burns has developed a habit of it as well. We had a few late tackles and high tackles (McCarthy and Spillane come to mind. Burns shoved Cluxton which drew a big reaction from the crowd though there was very little in it. Just in the incident where Fenton was hit, it was 100% his own doing in my opinion. No issue with any of that except to say that if you watch the replay back from one of the angles on eir, Crowleys eyes don't deviate from Fenton. No interest in the ball and from my view there was intent on nailing Fenton. Won't fall out about the other stuff.
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Post by skybluezone on Mar 12, 2018 22:10:27 GMT
The last time I heard the 'ole ole' was 2001 vs Meath. These things have a habit of coming back to bite you....I'm sure it is being filed away by all playing yesterday. The game can only be taken as a learning experience - the players will learn from it and improve. Hopefully all will receive a fair shot at it again next week. And surely Casey will get a fair chance to prove his worth. If not he would be well entitled to tell Fitz where to go. What struck me in the stand with 10 minutes to go was the amount of Dubs leaving. It appears that they are getting tired of winning. The low attendance yesterday was indicative of what is happening - people are losing interest in the game due to one team dominating....what the GAA sows it reaps - will be interesting to see attendance numbers for Leinster matches. In the pub after I dared to mention the biased funding that the Dubs have received in recent years - turns out it's a very touchy subject with the boys in blue to say the least. They don't want to hear it - the truth hurts apparently. Here's hoping Liam Sheedy gets the top job - if either of the other 2 get it there will be more of the same. What were attendances lime in 1982? Did it concern You Then?
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Post by skybluezone on Mar 12, 2018 22:25:01 GMT
Slybluezone , I take your point re playing David Clifford from the front. However, could be dangerous of the right high ball is floated in behind the marker . David is a terrific fielder. Kerryexile, that is a a very interesting analysis. No doubt every sport can benefit from tactics imported from other sports. This is where resources come into play I suppose. Veteran, what happened yesterday was that the first ball sent in between Clifford and O'Sullivan saw Cian misjudging it and Clifford collecting a high ball and sticking it over the bar. Cian was spooked and began to mark Clifford from behind as a result. It wasn't until close to ht that he trusted himself to mark from the front that he got on top of Clifford. Young David is quality but I get the impression he is not exceptionally pacey whereas O'Sullivan is a greyhound.
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Post by SCB-ROCK on Mar 12, 2018 22:28:30 GMT
Anyone paying attention will realize that Dr.Crokes dominance in Kerry as well as other factors (socio-economic and otherwise) have neutered Kerry football. Economic factors are certainly an issue between say Dublin and the rest. If you suggest that Killarney as an economic powerhouse is a factor in Crokes' success then condemning them is no part of the solution. I'd more compliment and emulate them. I have long made this point on the economics aspect of the GAA but I was consistently shot down so maybe some lessons are learnt the hard way. As regards the yawning gulf between counties and while it is getting worse the improving economy will slow it down, albeit as growth filters through to rural Ireland. The underlying reasons are external to the GAA but because it suffers so much as the largest voluntary body then maybe it needs to get it's lobbying ducks in order. Otherwise the slide will continue and much of rural Ireland will become a backwater that hardly sees a car on the road from one end of the day to the next. The trend cannot be reversed but it can be minimised. While I don't live there, I'm from Killarney, and I wouldn't say it's an economic powerhouse, maybe relative to most of Kerry. It’s a one industry town and just like the county has little to no diversity in business. To your point about emulating Dr. Drokes, how do you propose a club goes about doing that? That's the same argument being applied to Dublin, 'it's simple just emulate them". The math doesn't work, there's only a finite amount of resources to go around. Indulge for me a moment I will talk football near the end. Ask yourself, how much fun it is for elite to very good footballers in rural parts of Kerry, who have no chance of winning a county championship or anything for that matter. Do you think they might say to hell with this, I'm off to America, Australia, UK, Dublin, take your pick. And I’m sure plenty have. What has Kerry GAA ever done for regular people trying to get jobs in or at least near Kerry? Since Kerry Footballers past and present have the highest profile in their county, where are they on the fact that Kerry is one of the poorest counties in the country and one of the most affected by emigration? I would imagine quite a few on here have a family member extended or otherwise who has emigrated. Where is the college graduate, the computer engineer, the solicitor, the medical student, business degree holders, biotech grads, scientists and others going to get jobs, in a hotel? If you bleed your communities of it’s best, brightest most ambitious, what’s left? Status Qou is what you have left, and if that’s what you have, then that’s usually what a communities overlords want. Think about the spending power, the brain power, the ambition that has been forced to leave Kerry for opportunity elsewhere, we all can’t be Kerry footballers after all. And where did Kerry GAA come for funding for the COE, NYC and other US cities, come back into the fold and empty your pockets. What are hoteliers doing to help diversify business in Kerry, nothing, or create a community for arts and culture, again, nothing, but they will accept that government conference money, or is that hush money?. I feel confident in saying that if mark O Connor was from Dublin he might have stayed there. He would have envisioned a life as a hybrid pro/amateur athlete with plenty of opportunity and notoriety. If Kerry GAA thinks it exists in a vacuum because of Kerry Group (now HQ’d in Dublin) they are wrong! Back to football… I have said in past posts that Fitzmaurice is not up to the job and I’m going to spell it out for you all here. Of the three high profile football coaches in Kerry Football, Peter Keane is described as the coach with the steadiest hand, best communication skills, and a style of play that gets players excited! Jack O Connor has been described as “moody” and Fitzmaurice as “confused”. Take it for what ever it’s worth.
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