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Post by greengold35 on Sept 21, 2017 17:01:46 GMT
Your cries to play Micheal Quirke there a few years ago fell on deaf ears. I wish you success in this crusade! Would you continue to play david at midfield given the way the game has moved on....and his habit of slowing down the play....... If not, where would you see him playing. David could easily play @ centre forward - great distribution, good kicker off either foot. Not a centre back - his tackling can often be poor.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 21, 2017 17:11:03 GMT
Have you any recollection of Jacko being tried at full back! It didn't last long I can tell you. David would have been a supreme midfielder in a different era but Dublin, the trend setters, have emphasized the importance of pace in that region. The victors write the history as they say. Veteran, to be fair Jacko's mid field partner Sean Walsh was tried there and it was very successful. As was johnno keeffe.
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Post by onlykerry on Sept 21, 2017 17:22:44 GMT
I think the true influence David Moran brings to the team comes when you analyse his good games - Kerry win them all and he is a collosus. When he is successfully targeted by the opposition we tend to run into trouble. Therefore rather than criticising him I think we need to be supporting him more efectively to bring him into games and protect him from being successfully targeted. He is a strength for our team and we need to play to our strengths and work to bring him more into the game.
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Post by champer on Sept 21, 2017 18:06:23 GMT
Your cries to play Micheal Quirke there a few years ago fell on deaf ears. I wish you success in this crusade! Would you continue to play david at midfield given the way the game has moved on....and his habit of slowing down the play....... If not, where would you see him playing. I think he is an outstanding midfielder. He tires a bit towards the end of games but he gives it everything he has and takes on a lot of responsibility which other shy away from. More a reflection that we have nobody to replace him when he tires in my view. He could play in the Johnny Buckley role at 11 that Eamonn fitzmaurice seems to love. Winning ball and linking play with less tracking back How long would he last marking Paul Mannion, Andy Moran or any top end full forward?
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Sept 21, 2017 18:19:46 GMT
Ah jeez Mick- I cant agree with that at all. Would be some waste Have you any recollection of Jacko being tried at full back! It didn't last long I can tell you. David would have been a supreme midfielder in a different era but Dublin, the trend setters, have emphasized the importance of pace in that region. The victors write the history as they say. That was all before I was born! Moran broke even with Fenton in the semi last year and our midfield was on top against Dublin in both league meetings this year- I dont think we are doing too badly
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Post by veteran on Sept 21, 2017 18:29:52 GMT
Kerryexile , you are right of course about Sean Walsh but Sean was a different animal to Jacko. Sean was one of these rare specimens who could play most positions. For Kerry he played FB, CHB, MF and FF. I cannot recall him playing at CHF for Kerry but saw him star there several times for UCC. In my time I can only recall a few Kerry players who were that versatile- Tom Long, Mkck O'Dwyer, Seamus Murphy, Paudie Lynch, Seamus Moynihan.
Jacko was essentially a midfielder, perhaps the best there ever was , perhaps the best footballer there ever was.
Mickmack, Johno grew up mostly playing underage and in St. Brendan's as a CHB. In my view he was never a midfielder of the first rank, being a more natural defender. Therefore playing at FB was a return to his natural habitat more or less. .
I have suggested a man for FB, or at least for the full back line where we are currently bankrupt- Peter Crowley. Any views?
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Sept 21, 2017 19:41:37 GMT
Well in fairness even if we throw i our you lads and give them a years or two experience and suffer a loss or two along the way how bad. The team in is current format won't be winning a all Ireland anyway lets be honest. The standard is so poor at inter county level currently that we would still beat most teams playing poorly a[art from Mayo, Dublin and maybe Tyrone. Even if we wait until the lads are all 22/23 it will still take them maybe a year to get to the pitch of inter county in most cases. Give youth its head (within reason) and see what happens. I agree with most people that our panel needs a serious cull.We can' be doing the same thing with the same players year i year out and expect different results. We have no full backline. Lets call a spade a spade. Clare, Cork, Galway and mayo carved us open a times. Tactics etc play a part but, we dot have the players either that you would feel confident in a man to man situation. Killian is not a full back line player, Either is Griffin, Fionn isn't either. Enrights form was poor all year. But, we had no alternatives. Our half back line is fine. Add Killian back into the mix and along with Murphy and Crowley it looks solid. Midfield is a concern. I have said i time and again. I don't get the hype about Moran. He doesn't deliver on a consistent basis. In short you cant rely on him. Maybe its not his fault, we mightn't be playing the best way to get the best out of him. Maher is a solid player. Fitness is an issue because of the injuries. Realistically midfield is Jack Barry + An OtherOur half forward line has been a problem since Galvin retired and before then. We just don't seem to have the pace.And are too easy over ran. Ad if we do play the lads with pace like Darran ad SOB they are too small and get out muscled. Also were are no getting any scoring return from our half forwards really so the all the pressure is on the full forward line every day. Interesting. You dont rate Moran but you say Maher is "solid"? Dont get the logic in that. It seems to me from listening to some on here and some pundits that if Moran isnt outstanding in a game, people say he is playing poor. Even when he is doing "OK". Maher on the other hand can do OK, but seems to be given extra credit for that and people say he had a good game! I think Moran has suffered from not having a consistent midfielder next to him. Or even having consistently a similar type of midfielder next to him. Maher one day, Sheehan another, Buckley another, Barry another. All totally different types of player. David has to adjust his game depending on who is next to him. PS - What has Jack Barry done in 2017 in the championship to be the Number 1 midfielder? When Maher has gotten a run of games and got his fitness up he has been our best mid fielder. He might not be as spectacular as Moran but he's a more dependable player. He's a solid 7/10 player most days where Moran could be a 9/10 one day and follow it with a 5/10. Maher might never scale the heights but you can rely on him. Im not making Barry our number one midfielder just based on his mobility that we can't afford not to start him unless we haven't anyone else to do his role currently
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Sept 21, 2017 19:47:14 GMT
I think the true influence David Moran brings to the team comes when you analyse his good games - Kerry win them all and he is a collosus. When he is successfully targeted by the opposition we tend to run into trouble. Therefore rather than criticising him I think we need to be supporting him more efectively to bring him into games and protect him from being successfully targeted. He is a strength for our team and we need to play to our strengths and work to bring him more into the game. That's part of my point and you made it probably better then my attempts. He has all the skills and talent. We just don't seem to have any idea to get him into the games. Instead of developing some sort of system to maximise his influence on the game we just go out and hope for the best. Even play him outside of midfield but let him drift in their. People raved about Aidan O'Shea and how Mayo used him from centre forward. Moran is well able to do that type of role and even better. He is a better passer and ball kicker
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 21, 2017 20:12:38 GMT
Mickey Linden tattooed Jacko in that NFL game played in Tralee around the early '90s. The experiment was over very quickly in that game. Jacko was an exceptional centre back for South Kerry however.
I couldn't see David Moran thriving at full back for Kerry.
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Post by derry4sam on Sept 21, 2017 20:33:10 GMT
Is Moran mobile enough? Always looks like he's gassed to me.. very poor in the tackle too but you can say that for nearly all of his team mates. The most promising up and coming midfielder in the county is Rob O Se in my opinion. I personally don't get the fuss about Brendan O'Sullivan. A couple of brief cameos in the league got folks very excited there.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 21, 2017 20:47:53 GMT
KIERAN SHANNON: Can anyone catch the mighty Dublin? 25 Wednesday, September 20, 2017 Such supremacy is as a measure of the GAA’s negligence as it is of Dublin’s exemplary management, from John Costello to Jim Gavin, writes Kieran Shannon.
On the last page of The Road To Croker, his rollicking travelogue following the 2003 GAA championships, the writer Eamonn Sweeney retreats to a bar near Croke Park shortly after Tyrone have claimed Sam Maguire for the first time. Just as he’s sipping a pint to take in all he’s just witnessed, he overhears a conversation between Tyrone fans already discussing the following year.
They like their own county’s chances; now that they’ve finally won one, that group of players could go on to win three or four.
“I suppose,” one of them nods, “but Kerry will bounce back.” Then someone mentions Cork. And how there might be a last kick in Sean Boylan’s Meath. There’ll certainly be another one in Armagh.
“And the Dubs,” muses someone, “you know, they’ll not be bad.” It leaves Sweeney with the line to finish his book. “When you think that it’s over, it’s only begun.”
As it would transpire, those Tyrone supporters pretty much foresaw the rest of the decade, not just the following year. Kerry would indeed bounce back to win the 2004 championship. That group of Tyrone players would go on to win three All-Irelands. Armagh would not go away though they wouldn’t quite get back to the summit. And while Cork and Dublin would both flop again in 2004, they would thereafter embark steely-eyed on a march back to credibility, relevance, and contention before ultimately claiming the first two All-Irelands of the following decade. Only Meath failed to make any great noise — and even they would make it back to two All-Ireland semi-finals before the noughties was out.
Nowadays talk of next year doesn’t wait for supporters to make their way to some watering hole. It starts out on the pitch, under the golden ticker-tape, with Johnny Cooper declaring to TV reporters that Dublin aren’t finished with the business of winning All-Irelands.
Even the losing dressing room are eyeing the following year before they traipse out of the place; at this stage we know Mayo too well to know any vow that they’ll be back isn’t empty rhetoric.
But what about everyone else? What can they say? What can we say about them?
Minutes before this year’s hurling All-Ireland final, Tony Browne made the point to RTÉ sideline reporter Claire McNamara that the upcoming game was also an appetiser of what was to come in 2018 and beyond. He expanded on his point a few days later in his column for this paper. Hurling was now living in a post-Kilkenny world and up to seven counties could win the following year’s All-Ireland, even if one of those seven was Kilkenny.
Football’s landscape appears much different. It’s very much Dublin’s world, only Mayo and Kerry are able to live with them and everyone else just seems to inhabit it. Last Sunday was the best case yet for the Super 8s, a format that almost guarantees another clash of these two titans at some point next summer, and no one would be surprised or disappointed if they ended up meeting in another final too. Yet as brilliant as it to see more Dublin-Mayo just as it is to watch Mayo-Kerry and Kerry-Dublin, football requires new faces to enter the equation of epic matchups, now that Donegal have departed it.
Tyrone still appear the best hope, even if hope is all it possibly is. Next year’s Division One will see plenty of experimentation (before Dublin invariably win it): Kerry will blood a few more of their 2014 and 2015 minors as well as the star pupil of the 2017 class – is there even a need to say who that is? Mayo will – or at least should – rest key veterans and finally give more of the 2016 U21s their head; Monaghan will rotate their squad to an unprecedented level, their year along with Roscommon’s having taught them that relegation isn’t fatal but a lack of freshness come high summer is.
Tyrone’s experimentation will come more in the guise of tactics than personnel. Dublin – and Mayo – have underlined what they and the rest of Ulster should have absorbed at the end of 2016, if not 2015: What wins in Ulster won’t cut it in Croke Park. Not against the big boys. Having so many bodies back is the new naivety.
Like Monaghan, even possibly Mayo, it could leave Mickey Harte’s side vulnerable to relegation, but what about it? When you realise that what got you to here won’t get you to there, sometimes you have to get worse to get better.
There’s a reason though why Mickey Harte asked to be kept on until 2020. It could take three years for Tyrone to be good enough to reach or win a final. Even in Kerry, in the aftermath of the Mayo replay there’s an acceptance that the gap between them and Dublin isn’t going to close over the next year or two.
So if that’s where Tyrone and Kerry are, what about the rest? It’s impossible to see any of them challenging, let alone, winning, in 2018. What you’d be looking at though is for someone to make it their moving year, along the lines of Donegal and Mayo in 2011.
Both Jim McGuinness and James Horan recognised the low hanging fruit in their own county and of all the managers and counties out there, Ronan McCarthy and Cork would appear best-placed to follow their example.
There is just as much talent in Cork now as there was in Donegal and Mayo in 2010 after the wreckages of Crossmaglen and Longford. What McGuinness and Horan were able to do was sell a vision and sense of cause to their players. Can football mean as much to Cork players as it did to those Donegal players and what it still does to those Mayo players? Can they buy into the lifestyle that the Cantys lived by and instilled not that long ago? If McCarthy can achieve that, then Cork are primed to climb, especially from Division Two where Donegal started out in 2011. It will take Cork more than two years to win an All-Ireland but it should not be a stretch for them to get back to a final within three.
If it’s shocking that Cork haven’t been in an All-Ireland semi-final since 2012 – at the outset of this decade, remember, the future looked red, not blue; Cork, not Dublin, had the team culture everyone else aspired to – then the plight and decline of Meath since – well, you could say September 2001 – is scandalous.
There are many reasons for that – not least that they’re paying for the sins of an underwhelming county board propped up by the brilliance of Sean Boylan – but even with what they have they should be doing more. Just like Ronan McCarthy, Andy McEntee has to get his team out of Division Two. Meath have been there for far too long.
That they haven’t been exposed to more spring football against the likes of Dublin and Mayo is an indictment of the GAA too though. During the summer, Sligo player Niall Ewing made a shrew observation.
“Since the Division One to Division Four [format] came in there’s a situation that has developed that the best five or six teams are constantly playing against each other and they’re making each other better.
“It’s very disappointing for ourselves when you only play a Division One team once a year. I remember when there was Division 1A and 1B and there was a more even split of teams. Smaller teams were probably playing bigger teams more often and there were bigger teams coming down to the smaller grounds playing so-called weaker teams. Everything [now] seems to be about developing this elite.”
That’s been a major if largely unspoken factor as to why we have so few contenders.
Ask yourself this: What counties are currently enjoying their best decade in over half a century? Dublin, just as Tyrone had their best decade in the noughties. Donegal, just as Armagh had their best in the noughties. After that, you’re only talking about Mayo, Monaghan and Tipperary. In the noughties you had Sligo, Fermanagh, Laois, Westmeath, Wexford and Limerick all enjoy a golden decade while Banty’s Monaghan laid the ground for Malachy’s.
Such competitiveness wasn’t by accident. That was by design – the GAA’s, with its league format. So is the current elitism, as Ewing has identified.
That’s why the usual line that there have always been dominant teams rings hollow. Between 2003 and 2008 Tyrone were beaten by the likes of Donegal, Derry, Laois, Meath, Down, none of them All-Ireland finalists during that era; Kerry were brought to a replay by Limerick. Since 2011, Dublin have only been beaten in championship by Mayo and Donegal and tested by Kerry. No one else since Cork in 2013 has come close.
Such supremacy is as a measure of the GAA’s negligence as it is of Dublin’s exemplary management, from Costello to Gavin.
Of course there is one retort to all this: Mayo, just like Donegal before them. As James Horan put it there recently, there’s no Abramovich in Castlebar, just as there wasn’t one in Letterkenny. Counties have to do more to help themselves.
Galway and Kildare have put themselves in position to make a further move for position; a season in Division One and possibly a big scalp at home in the Super 8s will bring them on. But as for reaching a final, let alone winning it? Too soon.
For 2018, Mayo still seem all that’s between Cooper celebrating another All-Ireland in Coppers’.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Sept 21, 2017 20:48:59 GMT
Is Moran mobile enough? Always looks like he's gassed to me.. very poor in the tackle too but you can say that for nearly all of his team mates. The most promising up and coming midfielder in the county is Rob O Se in my opinion. I personally don't get the fuss about Brendan O'Sullivan. A couple of brief cameos in the league got folks very excited there. Totally agree re Rob O'Se would love to see him get a run in the league next year.
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 21, 2017 22:00:22 GMT
What age is Rob?
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 21, 2017 22:13:26 GMT
Hypothetical speaking, with JMG background and profession, what would his fee be for managing Mayo in 2018, €250k?
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Post by mossie on Sept 21, 2017 23:27:32 GMT
is this the same Rob O'Se who came on in the all Ireland u21 semi v Galway? fso, He was certainly one of Kerry's better players that day and had the cut of a lad we should have started that day
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Sept 22, 2017 5:11:12 GMT
is this the same Rob O'Se who came on in the all Ireland u21 semi v Galway? fso, He was certainly one of Kerry's better players that day and had the cut of a lad we should have started that day By all accounts he has been playing like a man with a point to prove ever since.
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Post by Jigz84 on Sept 22, 2017 8:18:12 GMT
On David Moran, I'd like to see him at 11 or 14. I'd be curious to see how Morley would go at full-back.
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Post by derry4sam on Sept 22, 2017 9:01:39 GMT
He would be 21 I'd imagine. I think he was on the bench for 2014 minor win? If there is one club on a steep upward curve in Kerry it's An Ghaeltacht and there's a couple of guys there worth having a look at. Eanna O Conchuir being one, Tomas O Se another. What do Kerry do with the full back line though? This is the big problem. Leave Ryan and Murphy battle it out for number one but how do they rectify the full back line? I just don't see real specialised defenders in the panel or the county in general... I see a glut of exciting half back options. Do you need to bring Crowley back there (mentioned by Veteran already I believe), do you task O Beaglaoich with a corner back role even though you know he's best at 5 or 7 (Like Marc before him). They're the only two that I can see that you could put back there... Mark Griffin's future lies out the field and Killian Young is a half back too. I'd be willing to forgive Enright. He was marking the best footballer in the country this season in both those Mayo games, a man possessed and he was woefully exposed. Jason Foley, Gavin Crowley, Cathal O Luing and Ronan Shanahan are others to note. I have also heard through the rumour mill that Foley did not enjoy the best of times in the A v B games along with some of the other younger lads or 'minor crop' if you can call them that.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Sept 22, 2017 9:24:10 GMT
Any merit in playing Killian as a half forward? Has the pace as well as the football to play there. If we are playing a sweeper he could play from there. Is good on the ball as well. And could leave Murphy in the half back line. Has always win his share of breaks as well.
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Post by buck02 on Sept 22, 2017 10:01:57 GMT
I thought this was a good thread to post the following article.
Dr Ed Coughlan: Dublin commitment to succession planning gets deserved success
Con O’Callaghan has been groomed for years in a structure of development that puts skills progression first, says Dr Ed Coughlan.
THE end of every season sparks the mandatory postmortem to determine the quality on display throughout the year.
The health of the sport is questioned in relation to its sustainability going forward. The doomsday parade will likely paint a dark picture bemoaning the dominance of Tiger Woods, Roger Federer, and the Chicago Bulls of yesteryear, or the Cork Ladies football team, the All Blacks, Kerry, and Kilkenny of more recent times — there is always someone to blame for being better than everyone else.
Make no mistake about it, Dublin are good for the game of Gaelic football. Ironically, and in equal measure, potentially so are Mayo.
Dublin provides a template for continual improvement and are the epitome of the saying: what got you here will not get you there. And therein lies the pain for Mayo; last Sunday they were good enough to beat the Dublin of 2016, just not the Dublin of 2017.
Such a painful realisation will set in motion the reflection that will lead to the planning for next year. But such planning has to be coupled with a patience and commitment to adding value one year at a time.
Should Mayo decide to push harder than previous years and attempt to make up this 12-month deficit in a single year, they run the risk of over-cooking it and falling even further behind.
The process that goes into becoming a dominant force in any sport starts with the care and attention given to the youth of the sport and finishes with the appreciation and respect shown to the coaches who deliver on such a programme for the future.
Almost to the week, it is 10 years since a sport science research project commenced with the Dublin development squads. The topic they were interested in and prepared to sacrifice many training sessions, was to determine the impact of games-based practice sessions compared to drills-based practice sessions on improving the frequency of use of the non-dominant hand-pass in match play. A decade ago!
Not surprisingly, many of those players and coaches are still involved with Dublin GAA in some capacity today, with several on the field of play last Sunday. There is no money at play here, no mass sponsorship, no state-of-the-art facilities, just a commitment to the future and a show of genuine appreciation from the county board for their voluntary efforts.
Compare that to the horror stories around the country of coaches committing years to development squads only to be passed over without consideration for involvement at the minor level by county board executives. Or the appointment of former great players who happened to win something in their past, with little or no coaching experience being drafted into a managerial position ahead of a seasoned coach and student of the game.
Is it any wonder some counties struggle to get people to commit to developing youth when the lack of respect and appreciation shown to them for their efforts is so soul-destroying? Let’s not fool ourselves also into thinking the players do not pick up on this injustice, year in, year out.
It took Kieran Kingston of Cork hurling to connect the dots between senior, under-21, and minor before Cork football thought it might be a good idea in this new regime. Something Dublin football has been doing for years.
It’s a wonder why the same thinking is not pervading Dublin hurling. Maybe now is the time they’ll promote from within.
So rather than bemoan the success of Dublin, we should celebrate their commitment to a plan. A plan that enables Jim Gavin to be short-sighted in thinking of only the next game ahead, because all the long-sighted work has been done before the players reach senior level. Con O’Callaghan wasn’t plucked from thin air; he has been groomed for years in a structure of development that commits to skills progression over physical development. Don’t be surprised to see players who made appearances in last year’s O’Byrne Cup and national league, only to fade away into the background come championship, increasing their exposure in next year’s second and third tier campaigns.
Commentators will casually assume that Dublin cannot have the same hunger to win as their opposition because they have won it all before. But if each game is taken as a single entity, to be prepared for without the distraction of the importance of the result, then the same thinking begins to permeate into each play within a game.
The sense of inevitability that permeated through last Sunday’s final comes from the sense of calm that Dublin have developed to be able to evaluate the risk-reward trade-off throughout the game. No doubt Dublin made errors last Sunday, as did Mayo, but predictably those errors happened further away from their own goal and at less critical times. Panic and the tendency to force a play are directly linked to a nagging realisation that the work is not yet done to finish the job.
Mind you, Dublin are acutely aware that they’re still 10 titles behind Kerry in the all-time honours list, as well as the fact that Kerry have twice achieved a four-in-a-row in their history. But awareness of such facts does not mean it will become their goal, such is their commitment to their step-by-step approach.
The silly debates about the luck Dublin have enjoyed or conversely, the lack of it from a Mayo perspective; completely disrespects the process that underpins consistent excellence in sport. A culture of winning comes from a culture of excellence. Accountability from players and coaches and a willingness to take responsibility for failings are critical elements to building a robust unit of freethinking individuals capable of engaging in a team ethic beyond their own self-importance.
There is little doubt that Mayo have made significant improvements under the management of Stephen Rochford, but just because they have made such developments this year, or even last year, does not outweigh the years they lag behind in similar improvements that Dublin have nurtured. If Stephen Rochford took the Mayo job thinking it was just a matter of fine-tuning and tweaking what was already there, he would certainly realise now the error in such thinking. The strength and depth coming from his bench is a case in point. How Patrick Durcan is only three years involved in a senior set-up is an indictment of the myopia that has cost Mayo in the past.
Where are the recent All-Ireland winning minor and U21 Mayo managers and coaches in the current senior set-up? Should Stephen Rochford stay on as Mayo manager, he has to be the one to finally connect the dots back along the Mayo production line.
Otherwise, the county risks overlooking and under developing playing and coaching talent that may be right beneath their noses.
Mayo are good for the game for the drama and emotion they evoke from all corners of the world. For sure, an All-Ireland is getting closer, but not before more layers of joined-up thinking are put in place. If Stephen Rochford can emerge from his post-season analysis committed to finding the future Andy Morans, Keith Higgins, and David Clarkes to join the current Cillian O’Connors, Lee Keegans and Jason Dohertys, then this year will one day be seen as a success for how it kick-started a period of dominance that Dublin currently enjoy.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Sept 22, 2017 11:02:59 GMT
No doubt oversimplistic, but B backs are facing A forwards and A backs are facing B forwards in training games.
You do the math after that.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Sept 22, 2017 11:09:30 GMT
No doubt oversimplistic, but B backs are facing A forwards and A backs are facing B forwards in training games. You do the math after that. What if you were just playing backs and forwards?
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Post by kerryexile on Sept 22, 2017 11:58:22 GMT
Bomber Liston column and Darran O'Sullivan interview in today's Indo.
Nothing unusual in either except one interesting quote from each in the context of what is being discussed here.
For all the people who suggested that the age that Maurice, Mike Frank, Tomás etc etc started playing senior at was irrelevant because it is a different game now Bomber says in the course of his piece:
“It also helps that the game has gotten cleaner, a lot of the rough stuff from my day is long gone”.
About playing next year Darran says:
"God, are there any backs coming through?" he laughs. "Competition is good, the more the better. But I'm unsure what I'll do. I'm getting married in two weeks so I'll have a new boss then! I'll just see how it is. If Eamonn (Fitzmaurice) wants me back, I'll probably come back."
Very unreassuring regarding Eamonn and himself!! !
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Sept 22, 2017 13:06:14 GMT
No doubt oversimplistic, but B backs are facing A forwards and A backs are facing B forwards in training games. You do the math after that. What if you were just playing backs and forwards? We are talking about A vs B games but I know what you mean.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 22, 2017 14:03:11 GMT
Who is Dr Ed a stalking horse for?
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Sept 22, 2017 14:15:16 GMT
Who is Dr Ed a stalking horse for? Is this not the Ed Coughlan that was involved with Mayo a few years back as S&C under Horan?
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Post by peanuts on Sept 22, 2017 14:30:38 GMT
Who is Dr Ed a stalking horse for? Is this not the Ed Coughlan that was involved with Mayo a few years back as S&C under Horan? Yes, that's him. He and Anthony Maher were 'getting to know each other' down in Limerick.
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Post by foggylol24 on Sept 22, 2017 18:57:39 GMT
"There is no money at play here, no mass sponsorship, no state-of-the-art facilities, just a commitment to the future and a show of genuine appreciation from the county board for their voluntary efforts."
He does relies that Dublin have 100 full time coaches to teach other voluntary coaches how to coach these skill based drills opposed to other counties having 1 or 2
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Post by veteran on Sept 22, 2017 19:47:30 GMT
As Jigz84 suggests , Tadgh Morley, like Peter Crowley, is another man who could be moved back to the full back line.
On a different topic , Hasn't Darran been treated shamefully. Gets a spurious black card, referee and linesman blank him when he asks the reason for the card and then gets a match suspension for reacting angrily at the incident. Some respect for a mild mannered player. In the meantime the referee and linesman , presumavly, will be be given a licence to carry on regardless, Show respect, earn respect etc .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 19:53:42 GMT
As Jigz84 suggests , Tadgh Morley, like Peter Crowley, is another man who could be moved back to the full back line. On a different topic , Hasn't Darran been treated shamefully. Gets a spurious black card, referee and linesman blank him when he asks the reason for the card and then gets a match suspension for reacting angrily at the incident. Some respect for a mild mannered player. In the meantime the referee and linesman , presumavly, will be be given a licence to carry on regardless, Show respect, earn respect etc . Agree, Darren's season is ruined. Months of hard work destroyed by a vain, preening primadonna.
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