Aodhan
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Post by Aodhan on Jun 24, 2017 22:35:52 GMT
It would be great if we could get Down somewhere along the way. That is one record that badly needs to end. Careful what you wish for - I was delighted when we got them in 2010 and was full sure the record would be set right that year - was not to be ....... Even the opportunity to do so would be a great occasion.
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Post by buck02 on Jun 24, 2017 22:42:46 GMT
I was glad Down won tonight. Monaghan never really kicked on from their promise of 3 years ago and surely this is the end of O Rourke with them. They look like a team that could do with a bit of freshness on the line.
Down had a bit of nastiness about them that you need to win these games in Ulster. 3 times I counted fellas going in with the knee after McManus had gone to ground.
The only blackspot on a good game for the neutral was having to listen to Tom Carr (formerly known as Tommy Carr). He is painful. Just to think, thats where part of ye're TV licence money is going.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 24, 2017 23:38:10 GMT
It would be great if we could get Down somewhere along the way. That is one record that badly needs to end. I presume Kerry cant meet Down or Tyrone in 2017 other than in the final. Am i right in thinking that Monaghan and Kerry could meet now that Monagahn are in the qualifiers?
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 24, 2017 23:43:06 GMT
Connolly as likely to be cynical as any of them. He was just silly to lose his head against Carlow...like Galvin was against Clare in 2008. Carlow amd Clare!! A nd skybluezone..... no matter what Spillane said on TSG, if the ref didnt put the incident into his report, the CCCC were powerless to act. It was different back in 2008/2009..... then the CCCC could unilaterally act on something highlighted by TSG irrespective of whether the incident was in the refs report on not. They changed the rules in the intervening period. on reflection i was wrong in this. The change that was brought in was that once a ref dealt with an incident the CCCC could not revisit it. In the Cork v Waterford hurling match the ref did not deal with the incident where the waterford player grabbed the Cork players helmet... so the CCCC were free to sanction the player which they did.
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Post by Aodhan on Jun 25, 2017 1:15:36 GMT
It would be great if we could get Down somewhere along the way. That is one record that badly needs to end. I presume Kerry cant meet Down or Tyrone in 2017 other than in the final. Am i right in thinking that Monaghan and Kerry could meet now that Monagahn are in the qualifiers? The loser of the Ulster Final will go into the Munster Finalists side of the draw.
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Post by yourholiness on Jun 25, 2017 7:23:03 GMT
I presume Kerry cant meet Down or Tyrone in 2017 other than in the final. Am i right in thinking that Monaghan and Kerry could meet now that Monagahn are in the qualifiers? The loser of the Ulster Final will go into the Munster Finalists side of the draw. I think that the losing Ulster finalists go in the qualifiers on the side that most likely advances to play the Leinster Final winners . Mayo and Donegal are the big hitters on the Munster side of the draw .
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Post by playitfair on Jun 25, 2017 8:55:21 GMT
The loser of the Ulster Final will go into the Munster Finalists side of the draw. I think that the losing Ulster finalists go in the qualifiers on the side that most likely advances to play the Leinster Final winners . Mayo and Donegal are the big hitters on the Munster side of the draw . based on last Sunday, hard to see donegal doing anything. Naive in the extreme. I think their race is done for 2017.
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Post by Jigz84 on Jun 25, 2017 9:33:58 GMT
The loser of the Ulster Final will go into the Munster Finalists side of the draw. I think that the losing Ulster finalists go in the qualifiers on the side that most likely advances to play the Leinster Final winners . Mayo and Donegal are the big hitters on the Munster side of the draw . That's right. Kerry cannot meet Tyrone, Monaghan or Down until a possible All-Ireland Final as they're on the B side of the draw, win or lose next Sunday.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jun 25, 2017 10:23:41 GMT
The Dubs are perfectly setup to become the first semi professionals in the GAA, centre of population and economics in the country. Just a matter of time before some bright young player sets himself up as "concentrating full time on football & education". I look forward to seeing it as the new model and way forward for inter county players. You wouldn't count the two of your lads who gave up good, well-paying jobs to go full-time at football recently then? Or the one who gave up teaching? Must have been very tough to afford.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 25, 2017 11:20:10 GMT
The Dubs are perfectly setup to become the first semi professionals in the GAA, centre of population and economics in the country. Just a matter of time before some bright young player sets himself up as "concentrating full time on football & education". I look forward to seeing it as the new model and way forward for inter county players. You wouldn't count the two of your lads who gave up good, well-paying jobs to go full-time at football recently then? Or the one who gave up teaching? Must have been very tough to afford. One set up his own cloths brand, one has opened a bar and restaurant in his home village, the other simply changed jobs. As you know I salute self employment & business development and more so if these people also avail of their profiles as intercounty players. I look forward to seeing the first full time GAA player as a result of his profile in the GAA, be that player from Dublin, Kerry, Kilkenny or Cork, Ballymun or elsewhere, I really don't care.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 25, 2017 13:06:42 GMT
It will be fascinating to watch whether Dublin football will go into decline (like the KK hurlers) when great players like Cluxton, BB, MDMA retire or will the weight of numbers and ultra professional set up by Dublin now (compared to previously) ensure success in perpetuity. It's about having the players with the right attitude. Weight of numbers is of no use if the right players arent there ( although i agree it increases your percentages) You have more of a chance of getting the right players with the right attitude if you have a bigger group to pick from. I'm sure the lads who fancy themselves as mathematicians will agree with that.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 25, 2017 15:40:58 GMT
Non event in Croker. The second half is most likely to degenerate even further!
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Post by seaniebo on Jun 25, 2017 16:03:00 GMT
Non event in Croker. The second half is most likely to degenerate even further! The basic errors being made by Westmeath is shocking. Weaker teams totally implode as is what's happening here.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 25, 2017 16:21:33 GMT
Non event in Croker. The second half is most likely to degenerate even further! The basic errors being made by Westmeath is shocking. Weaker teams totally implode as is what's happening here. Dubs not even out of first gear. Leinster's second best team seems to have regressed this year.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 16:36:45 GMT
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Westmeath should be ashamed of themselves
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Post by seaniebo on Jun 25, 2017 16:40:50 GMT
If you picked up 15 lads at the Red Cow they'd have done just as good a job.
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Post by glengael on Jun 25, 2017 18:07:18 GMT
I see reports on Twitter that the Dubs are now not doing 1 to 1 post match interviews. The Down win sounded impressive- it is good to see them back.
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Post by veteran on Jun 25, 2017 19:44:09 GMT
Even allowing for the fact that Dublin are the top team Westmeath were an eyesore today. How is it that teams like Clare and Tipperary , primarily hurling counties, can be so defiant and stubborn and team like Westmeath play, for the most part without pride and structure. A management set up which presides over such a humiliation should fold their tent .
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Post by playitfair on Jun 25, 2017 19:46:25 GMT
I see reports on Twitter that the Dubs are now not doing 1 to 1 post match interviews. The Down win sounded impressive- it is good to see them back. thats surprising. Whatever about the rights or wrongs, not a good idea in my opinion.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 25, 2017 19:59:29 GMT
With 33,000 in attendance today this game could have been played in any one of the grounds in Tullamore, Portlaoise, Killkenny or Wexford. Kildare and Meath played their semi final in Tullamore, a neutral venue. I don't see what the obsession is with giving Dublin home advantage in the Leinster championship.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 25, 2017 20:11:16 GMT
🤔🤔 Westmeath should be ashamed of themselves Even allowing for the fact that Dublin are the top team Westmeath were an eyesore today. How is it that teams like Clare and Tipperary , primarily hurling counties, can be so defiant and stubborn and team like Westmeath play, for the most part without pride and structure. A management set up which presides over such a humiliation should fold their tent . Dublin looked very good today, they would have done something similar to any of the other Leinster counties today. They look fresh and ready for road. I'm not sure if James McCarthy looks the part at midfield however.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 25, 2017 20:14:24 GMT
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Post by southward on Jun 25, 2017 20:36:39 GMT
I think Jim Gavin is making a t*t of himself here. Smacks of sulking imo. He wouldn't want to have been Kerry manager circa 2008-10.
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Post by southward on Jun 25, 2017 20:42:24 GMT
I think Jim Gavin is making a t*t of himself here. Smacks of sulking imo. He wouldn't want to have been Kerry manager circa 2008-10. Big question is.. Will Des feel under pressure to resign from TSG in solidarity?
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Post by thebluepanther on Jun 25, 2017 20:58:37 GMT
With 33,000 in attendance today this game could have been played in any one of the grounds in Tullamore, Portlaoise, Killkenny or Wexford. Kildare and Meath played their semi final in Tullamore, a neutral venue. I don't see what the obsession is with giving Dublin home advantage in the Leinster championship. Not that I think that's it's a good enough reason to keep the Dubs in Croker, but none of those grounds you mentioned could of accommodated the crowd today.
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Post by kerryexile on Jun 25, 2017 21:00:19 GMT
Westmeath today were the worst mentally prepared team I have ever seen. I can't remember ever seeing so many players sauntering aimlessly around the place when there was so much work to be done. There was no game plan. There was no work ethic. In the second half I think Dublin, deliberately or otherwise took the foot off the pedal but it was still embarrasing. Cribbin is not a manager of inter county standard.
Having said that I think there are a lot of players on the Westmeath team that have potential.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 25, 2017 21:27:14 GMT
Brolly and Dessie Dolan pretty much implied that Spillane had an agenda against Connolly on TSG on the night after the Dub v Carlow game.
Spillane has always been an embarrassment at best as a pundit. As a player he had total respect for refs and i dont believe he had an agenda on TSG.
A cuter Kerryman would have played it...cuter and said nothing
Full marks to Dublin for turning this to their advantage.
Its poor Dublin now in the media campaign stakes. EF must be raging
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Post by fitz on Jun 25, 2017 21:31:42 GMT
Today saw the restoration of 'Wilf' to his full powers, possibly already now Dublin's most important foward. A class footballer, albeit embellished by a pathetic opposition. Christ 31 points. Conceded 2-5 in last 6-7 minutes.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 21:37:08 GMT
Gavin must be taking the p*ss when he talks about Connollys good name being damaged. I think his good name disappeared a long while ago.
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Post by 1979 on Jun 25, 2017 22:14:18 GMT
Great result for Down yesterday. However, it's clear that they cynically targeted Monaghan's best player throughout the game and seemed to get away with it. It's worrying how often this happens. More worrying still is a pundit on TSG actively lauding such cynicism. Is there a more cowardly act than leading with the knee into a player on the groud, often times after the whistle is blown? Yet tonight it featured in the game's "highlights"! God help us.
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