metro
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Post by metro on Aug 16, 2007 14:10:44 GMT
ye let them talk we'll wait in the grass, hopefully they dont cut it till sunday week
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Post by ardfertnarrie on Aug 16, 2007 14:13:16 GMT
Please please let them keep this *e up. Remember Mayo last year.
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Post by Control on Aug 16, 2007 15:14:48 GMT
Dara will have him i the air and should create more breaks but i might be a bit concerned about his mobility, Brosnan on form should breeze past cullen end of., Donaghy will make the breaks but we will need to take them unlike the last day
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Post by ardfertnarrie on Aug 16, 2007 15:39:25 GMT
Did just hear on Radio Kerry that a Kerry midfielder has been ruled out. Please tell me it's not Daragh.
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peig
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Post by peig on Aug 16, 2007 16:13:08 GMT
Did just hear on Radio Kerry that a Kerry midfielder has been ruled out. Please tell me it's not Daragh. ?!!!!
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Post by hitman on Aug 16, 2007 17:32:45 GMT
Any updates on this injury rumour surrounding dara o se
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Post by austinstacksabu on Aug 16, 2007 17:38:00 GMT
I rang Radio Kerry - and the answer is no, they haven't reported it. However, one of the minor midfielders may be injured alright - not sure which one.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2007 17:39:45 GMT
God lads ye gave me a fright!
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Post by austinstacksabu on Aug 16, 2007 17:42:47 GMT
Did it ever dawn on any of ye closer to home than TingTang land to actually ring Radio Kerry and verify the story!!??!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2007 17:46:54 GMT
No, am too busy at work browsing the internet for idle gossip to bother with that!
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Post by hitman on Aug 16, 2007 17:49:56 GMT
Phones downstairs, too lazy to get it
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Aug 16, 2007 19:33:29 GMT
Beginning to look forward to sunday weeks match. Footballers are made or broken on days with titanic struggles such as the one in prospect in the old jones road venue on the 26th. The kerry dublin rivalary is always intense regardless of the time, venue or competition. The last semi meeting between these two sides was in 1977 and i hope we get a match to match. What i usually find in a game like this it is the unlikelest of sources that provides the moment of magic or genius that swings the match. One thing for sure the dubs will be as hyped up to the high heavens because they get to play the box office name in gaelic football in croke park. PLus as the dubs are so confident at the moment i actaully believe that the pressure and the hype surronding the occasion could actually get to them. Kerry have played in a number of all irelands and the build up to this game reminds me of the build up to any all-irekand final. Dublin dont have the experience of that and while they have played some big games in recent years nothing is as big as playing kerry. In 2004 dublin didnt expect to win and their supporters didnt either. However this time both players and fans alike expect a sky blue sky on sunday evening and this is real pressure fr them. Its great to to have the hill behind you but if dublin are struggling in the game the athmospher from the hill will be frosty and nervous enough. (mostof the suppporters are not real die hards so will easily turn n their team). This athmospher could easily transfer itself to the players out on the pitch. Also the fact that the dubs make the hill such a focal point of all their preperations pre match means tha they place a large emphasis on it. If dublin are struggling and wilting and all the players hear are shouts of derision from the hill it will place them under more pressure. There will be no place to hide for dublin players on sunday week and i just wonder if some of them will be looking to hide both mentlly and physically when the going gets tough
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Post by austinstacksabu on Aug 16, 2007 20:09:38 GMT
If you are Declan O'Sullivan and you win the toss, which way would you play first. Consider it to be a dry day with no wind.
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Post by fromdstartscart on Aug 16, 2007 22:40:53 GMT
j.farrel shud b full forward instead of donaghy he is miles better
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Aug 16, 2007 22:59:08 GMT
I did this before the Kerry Cork Munster final and it ended up with Kerry edging it! Well, here it goes....i am assuming the same Dubs team and Sean Ban for Galvin..no other changes Murphy vs Cluxton ------ Draw Marc vs M Vaughan ------ Kerry Tom Sullivan vs C Keaney, -------Dublin Reidy vs J Sherlock, ----------Dublin Young vs B Brogan; -------- Draw Mahoney vs A Brogan, ------ Draw Tom Se vs C Moran, ---------Draw Scanlon Vs Ryan -----Dublin O Se vs Whelan----- Draw Sean Sullivan vs ;P Casey ------Kerry Brosnan ,vs B Cullen, -----Dublin (altough past experiance suggest otherwise!) Declan Sull vs B Cahill ------ Draw Gooch vs D Henry, ------- Draw Star vs R McConnell, ------ Kerry MFR vs P Griffin; ------ Draw Referree ----------- After all the propoganda on here, has to be Kerry Kerry 4 Dublin 4 Draw 8
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Aug 16, 2007 23:00:33 GMT
I'd agree.Any dubs Ive talked are very worried about there half back line especially casey and cullen. they are worried about McConnell as well but feel Dongahy will suit him. They all think Whelan will destroy Darragh. Rubbish! Nobody underestimates Darragh O'Se, so you're talking through your hat. Sure Whelo is the most inconsistent player in the country
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Aug 16, 2007 23:07:18 GMT
To buck02 re Brosnan. I honestly dont know. But I do know from within the Dublin camp (players) that Brosnan is held in the greatest esteem. You see there is no other centre-forward who has the POTENTIAL to go through a back line with the speed and control (soloing) of Brosnan. I dont think that there is another Brosnan out there, i.e. somebody with his particular mix. One way to look at this is to consider whether Paul Caffrey would prefer to have Brosnan starting or on the bench. Bryan Cullen was one of my favourite players and I constantly put the case for him to be sited at centre-back. I was wrong - if he is a centreback, he is an indulgent one - at his best doing a Beckanbauer when Dublin are six or seven point up. Not suggesting that Brosnan is a better player than Declan - but Caffrey would prefer to see Brosnan on the bench. Without question, Dublin will pull Moran back and pull Barry into Centreback (where he should be) and let Cullen sweep forward. This worked like a dream in the first half against Laois - but in the second half they all started "playing" and Laois started making clean inroads down the middle - in a game where they were being demolished. This is part of the Dublin enigma. Actually I dont really subscibe to this enigma notion. Dublin are just not well managed - too many cooks. They have sufficient players and oodles of experience - but create their own problems. I really rated Cullen and Griffin. Now I feel that Cullen has become extremely indulgent and while Griffin is very honest and has tons of speed, I feel that the edge is gone off his game this Summer. Of course he should really be wing back and given his head - his speed is unreal. It is in that mix that I feel that Brosnan is well worth his place against Dublin. If there are to be changes in the half forward line, I would like to see Sean O'Sullivan on the left wing against Paul Casey. If Casey is on Galvin he will tough it out with him. But when somebody runs at him,he is all at sea. He is very honest player, but loses his bearings completley when turned. If we vary our forward play - we will beat Dublin. They will leave Griffin on Gooch as they will rely on his speed to negate Gooch's runs. If they worry about Brosnan's raids, they are paranoid about Gooch. All of which should allow us to isolate Donaghy on McConnell who I am sure is very good to his family - but he is not a fullback. Very good, not being smart here, but I think that hits a few nails on heads. I think Dublin's greatest problem will be uncertainty in the management, and over-caution, as against lack of caution in the previous two meetings
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Aug 16, 2007 23:12:05 GMT
The problem is that is Kerry go man-to-man with all the Dubs forwards as suggested by A.W.B. you could easily get a situation of Killian Young or Padraig Reidy being stood on the edge of the small square (in front of the hill probably) with Dublin having one of their famous "5 minute bursts" where they fire everything into attack. What I would do is put Marc on Alan Brogan (Marc knows him well from college according to JOC) who is definately their most dangerous forward. At various times of the game Dublin will put Keaney, Sherlock & Vaughan full forward and I think Tom Sullivan should be able for those 3, with Keaney probably giving him the most problems due to his sheer strenght (although I must add in that if you put Keaney under any sort of pressure when kicking he's not accurate at all). I would actually put Killian Young man to man on the younger Brogan, I thought he played well the last day and feel he could cause problems for Tom Se if he ran at him. Otherthan that I wouldnt have anybody else going man to man with the Dublin forwards. The rotation of forwards can cause confustion for backs for a minute or two, which can and does give the Dublin forwards to get a few quick fire scores. But it often causes too much confusion for their own lads too resulting in a lack of cohesion up front. Hopefully it'll be a case of the latter the nest day. Some good points, but Conal is very good off his left boot, even under pressure
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Post by hitman on Aug 16, 2007 23:29:53 GMT
I wouldnt agree with the gooch or declan being beaten, declan is in serious form this year and the dubs lack of blanket defending should help the gooch greatly and quite possibly mike frank. As for the kerry backline i believe the matchups you have listed will be much different from those you have listed, but for thiose matchups you are spot on if they are to line out as suggested
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peig
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Post by peig on Aug 16, 2007 23:40:27 GMT
I posted this in another thread but here it goes again:
Here's the team I'd like to see v Dublin (hoping that Galvin is fit, of course):
Diarmuid Murphy Marc Ó Sé Tom O'Sullivan Killian Young Tomás Ó Sé Tommy Griffin Aidan O'Mahoney Darragh Ó Sé Séamus Scanlan Seán O'Sullivan Declan O'Sullivan Paul Galvin Colm Cooper Kieran Donaghy Bryan Sheehan
If Galvin isn't fit to start I'd rather see Darren O'Sullivan start on the wing. Another poster also suggested bringing Gooch out and starting him on the 40, although I'd rather see him on the wing also. Some time ago I posed the question regarding Tomás Ó Sé being a candidate for full back. I'm sticking to my guns. Apart from the final twenty minutes yesterday, we didn't witness his infamous bursts up the field. I think this is something the Kerry management should seriously consider during the winter months.
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Post by Piggy on Aug 17, 2007 8:33:10 GMT
you cant put a man who has played in the half back line all his life(apart from afew games corner back early in his career)in at full back in an all ireland semi final!the national league was the time to try out those things but not now and especially against the dubs. i reckon darragh will give a massive performance the next day.whelan is good darragh is great,end of story.
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Post by A.N. Other on Aug 17, 2007 8:53:01 GMT
Is there somebody injured??Senior or Minor??Cause i joked with a friend last night saying that Dara O Se broke a bone in his leg and he text a few friends to spread the word!!Then i told him i was messing,didnt bother texting back!
And then i come on here and see people talking about a midfielder being injured got me worried!!
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Post by nv011956 on Aug 17, 2007 9:40:00 GMT
Stu,he did break a bone in his leg.....in 2004!!!So technically you're not wrong.
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peig
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Post by peig on Aug 17, 2007 10:26:08 GMT
you cant put a man who has played in the half back line all his life(apart from afew games corner back early in his career)in at full back in an all ireland semi final!the national league was the time to try out those things but not now and especially against the dubs. i reckon darragh will give a massive performance the next day.whelan is good darragh is great,end of story. Perhaps I wasn't clear, piggy. I'm NOT suggesting Tomás Ó Sé go in full back NOW! What I'm saying is that it's something the management should conside over the winter months. End of.
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Post by ardfertnarrie on Aug 17, 2007 10:40:50 GMT
Did just hear on Radio Kerry that a Kerry midfielder has been ruled out. Please tell me it's not Daragh. I rang Radio Kerry - and the answer is no, they haven't reported it. However, one of the minor midfielders may be injured alright - not sure which one. were you half listening narie, or just trying to stir? lots of make believe today! Sorry lads I just wrote it exactly as I heard it on Radio Kerry at 4.30pm yesterday evening. I wouldn't stir about something so serious. Also I said that I hoped it wasn't Darragh that they were talking about.
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Post by A.N. Other on Aug 17, 2007 12:29:55 GMT
Nothing on Radio Kerry anyway at 1 about a kerry player injured!!You may have heard a Kerry U-21's soccer player out injured!!There Cb and Cm are both injured for the Waterford game tomorrow!!
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Post by ardfertnarrie on Aug 17, 2007 12:51:30 GMT
Nothing on Radio Kerry anyway at 1 about a kerry player injured!!You may have heard a Kerry U-21's soccer player out injured!!There Cb and Cm are both injured for the Waterford game tomorrow!! Nope they said "Kerry Midfielder out for SEMI-FINAL"!
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Pablo
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Post by Pablo on Aug 17, 2007 13:05:19 GMT
ardfertnarie, I heard the same thing on the 5:30 bulletin, just the headline like that and then nothing else later.
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Post by Control3 on Aug 17, 2007 13:08:33 GMT
They were talking about a kerry minor midifelder. If u just hear the headline ud think it was darragh or someone but the story itself was about the minors
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 17, 2007 13:09:42 GMT
Must be some CKH somewhere smirking from the side of his mouth.
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