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Post by Kingdomson on Jun 6, 2007 11:44:05 GMT
 Media bias against Kerry! I think this deserves a thread because the media play such a vital role in creating perceptions or atmospheres around teams that can influence referees, and even gee up opposition. This year it is quite striking that Martain Breheny writing in the Irish Independent is hell bent on making life awkward for kerry. OK, if the reporting is fair and balanced but when it has such an obvious agenda then it is time to stand up and point it out. It is more than a little strange how Martain Breheny in the Irish Indo went on about Kerry again this week for the second week in row in a very unbalanced report. Has someone in Kerry upset this man? Yes, his right when he mentions the system is unfair in Munster, to all counties concerned. Yet, Martain argues it like it is only a benefit to kerry (never once mentions Cork, mind) nor does Martain point out the disadvantages it holds for the strong counties, Kerry and Cork respectively. I would have left it as a one off, but in light of last week’s Martain Breheny article in the Indo it is pretty obvious Martain has his own agenda with Kerry this year….whatever it is, he is a bitter man. Last week he gave a very unbalanced report concerning the treatment Armagh players come in for in games because of their reputation for physicality and mentioned how certain Armagh players had come in for rough treatment by Kerry players, he never mentioned how this behaviour was reciprocated by Armagh players and in my view in many cases instigated. Overall, very unbalanced and biased reporting by Martain Breheny. Maybe our own Co. Board PRO should drop him a line and ask what his beef is?
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Post by Owenabue on Jun 6, 2007 11:52:26 GMT
You should read the Examiner so.
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Post by Kingdomson on Jun 6, 2007 11:57:25 GMT
I do owenabue, is Breheny from CorK? Any relation of Billy's? Or is it they both love to drink bitter lemon!
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Post by Owenabue on Jun 6, 2007 11:59:54 GMT
You've me confused now. I just meant that the Examiner is not against ye.
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Post by diehard on Jun 6, 2007 12:21:32 GMT
There will always be elements of the media that will try detract from successful teams in any code of sport as kerry win the all ireland more often than anyone (fact) we come in for crap than anyone. Just goes with the territory the burden of greatness
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Post by Piggy on Jun 6, 2007 13:58:53 GMT
if Kerry were in Leinster or Connaught they'd breeze through it aswell apart from one tough game every year(which we nomally get from Cork anyway).
Maybe the time has come for a new format because i think you'll all agree the northern team have the toughest road to travel in order to win Sam!it will probably benefit Armagh that they got knocked out in the first round of the Ulster championship for instance and that cant be right!
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Post by Kingdomson on Jun 6, 2007 14:07:05 GMT
Response to Piggy
No one is questioning the deep unfairness of the present provincial system as it currently stands. Everybody realises there must be changes to the format.
However, that is not the issue on this thread, the issue on this thread is to highlight the unbalanced and unfair journalism instigated against Kerry by Martain Breheny’s reporting.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 6, 2007 14:09:43 GMT
Its all about getting to the quarter finals now......... and being fresh for 3 matches.
The only was Kerry, Cork, Galway, Mayo, Meath, Dublin, Tyrone , Donegal and Armagh wont be in the last 8 is if two of them meet in a back door game.
All these games up to then are just a warm up for the real action in august.
surely Breheny can see that
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Post by Owenabue on Jun 6, 2007 14:10:01 GMT
So is it Martin Brehery or the media in general so?!
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Post by Kingdomson on Jun 6, 2007 14:15:23 GMT
In this case it is Martain Breheny as it so obvious, owenabue. However, if anyone feels other journalists or other articles are being unfair, please add.
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Post by inforthebreaks on Jun 6, 2007 14:24:37 GMT
In fairness its not that bad an article by Breheny. Here it is for anyone who didnt read it www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/the-rich-just-keep-getting-richer-692174.htmlIts not like he is against Kerry, he is just saying that the system is a bit unbalanced. Ok he could have mentioned Dublin and their waltz thru Leinster last year but he has a point. Look at what Armagh have had to do for the past few years to get out of Ulster, what Donegal have to do this year. It is laid on a plate for Kerry and Cork with Munster being so weak. I dont think its having an anti Kerry bias pointing that out. |
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Post by Kingdomson on Jun 6, 2007 14:34:13 GMT
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Post by Owenabue on Jun 6, 2007 14:39:14 GMT
Bigbother, RTE aren't against ye either. Oh unless Dublin get to the Leinster final and then we all would be as well off having a media ban!
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Post by inforthebreaks on Jun 6, 2007 14:44:57 GMT
what do you object to here. the talk of McGeeney getting hit off the ball. Well it was going on all thru the match. we have plenty talk on here about what happened to Gooch in 2005. Ok the might not have been pro Kerry pieces by Breheney but I dont think they are out of order. It is a pity though that he didnt mention billy morgan when talking about managers blaming other teams tactics. Cos we all know Owenabue loves discussing Billy at length with us... |
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Post by Kingdomson on Jun 6, 2007 14:53:07 GMT
respose to inforthebreaks
I’m not saying the off the ball stuff with McGeeney did not go on, however, does Breheny have a blind spot here, when mentioning that one instance, from the game. How about the double stamping on a Kerry player on the ground? Or the encroachment of the Armagh water boy John Toal onto the pitch who instigated trouble. If Breheny is going to bring up Kerry versus Armagh, there are sinners and sinned against on both sides. My point is the reporting should be fair and balanced!
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Post by Owenabue on Jun 6, 2007 14:54:19 GMT
Inforthebreaks, get new material.....
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Post by buck02 on Jun 6, 2007 15:00:39 GMT
Speaking of media matters the Kerryman seems to have made a few changes for the year ahead. Mikey Sheehy & Eamon Breen appear to have been dropped from the coverage of Kerrys championship games in favour of the "Expert View" from Eamon Fitz.
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Post by Owenabue on Jun 6, 2007 15:22:24 GMT
Inforthebreaks, sorry for getting crany with you, but seriously like, do ye bring Billy up just to annoy me?!
Bigbrother I was thinking more about your dilemma, and all I can say is you should move to Cork. I mean, we've a Kerry man on the local radio station commentating on the Cork matches. You'd know what unbiased reporting was then....
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Post by inforthebreaks on Jun 6, 2007 15:27:48 GMT
Inforthebreaks, sorry for getting crany with you, but seriously like, do ye bring Billy up just to annoy me?! Is it working??? |
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Post by Owenabue on Jun 6, 2007 15:35:38 GMT
What would you think? Maybe as much as he annoyed ye in the first place. So we're evens now.
It's just ye and us against the world that thinks Munster football is weak, so maybe it's time to prove them wrong. See ye the third week in September again?!
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Post by Kingdomson on Jun 6, 2007 18:53:42 GMT
Media bias against Kerry! I don't agree with you KerryNorth, in my opinion, Martain Breheny has been unfair and unbalanced in his reporting towards the kerry team over a sustained period of time, not just in these articles. Yes, the present Championship is unfair, KerryNorth, but that is not the issue, as I have said on more than one occasion. Last year, Jack O’ Connor wasn’t too happy with sections of the media’s coverage towards Kerry, and you can be sure it was the behaviour of journalists like Breheny that he was referring to. They do their best to create a poison atmosphere, gossip and innuendo, and try to denigrate this great county’s achievements. It’s time we stand up to these fellas and prove we’re not fooled by their poisoned pens. This is just the latest in a long list of begrudgary, jealousy, and bitterness towards the most successful county in football by this particular journalist who has his own agenda, nothing else. And I stand over those comments as someone who loves the green and gold! Up the Kingdom!!! |
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 6, 2007 21:01:09 GMT
Breheny used to write in the Sunday Press and was on about the same type of stuff 25 years ago.
The League divisions would indicate that Ulster is strongest followed by Munster.
When the back door was introduced in 2001 Tommy Lyons said that any new system that would give Kerry an extra game was to be welcomed. It hasnt stopped kerry.
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Post by Piggy on Jun 6, 2007 22:01:25 GMT
in fairness i think we get good coverage from most journalists so saying there's a media bias against Kerry is abit over the top.Colm O Rourke and Eugene McGee are two examples of journalists who have praised Kerry time and time again
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Post by Kingdomson on Jun 6, 2007 22:24:36 GMT
Response to Piggy
In fairness, in my last post I was referring to segments of the media as Jack O’ Connor said last year that were biased against Kerry in their reporting. You can include Martain Breheny among that group.
I think most people can see through him at this stage but I think I am quite within my rights as a Kerry supporter to highlight this.
Yes, piggy, you rightly point out we do get a lot of positive press. However, we all so receive some vitriol that is unwarranted. Criticism is fine if it fair and balanced but not if it is biased or if is intended to insult and denigrate the achievements of the Kerry team. Yes, there will always be people such as Breheny who are jealous of our success but that doesn’t mean these fellas should not be exposed or answered in a public forum, same as they express their views.
Up the Kingdom!!
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Post by Tadhgeen on Jun 6, 2007 22:28:05 GMT
I do think that Breheny's recent articles are a bit strange and could be construed as biased against Kerry. However it's the usual old early championship slings and arrows that Kerry faces routinely.
Remember Colm Keyes article in the Sunday Independent last year? He questioned Colm Cooper and his dedication , lifestlye and fitness etc and only a few months after the death of his father.
Here's an extract ' Cooper is a young man in his early 20s, entitled to enjoy life away from sport too. He has played a lot of football over the last four seasons and may just be tiring of being at the pinnacle for so long. Perhaps there is also room for improvement in his current application to lifestyle and training'.
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Post by Kingdomson on Jun 6, 2007 22:33:36 GMT
Tadhgeen,
Is it little wonder Jack is no friend of the Independent.
Remember their scandalous and sensationalist headlines about the Kerry team on the morning of the All-Ireland last year.
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Post by JOAN on Jun 7, 2007 2:42:58 GMT
ah lads its not today or yeaterday that teh media bias against stated years and years. Never worry about it. Never expect much from Dublin papers anyway.
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Post by Pablo on Jun 7, 2007 7:53:04 GMT
I think we get good and bad from the media, I enjoy the good and take the bad in my stride, but felt martin breheny seemed to single out kerry in those two articles and it bugs me particularly when its in contrast to a team like armagh who are not exactly famed for being shrinking voilets.
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Post by watchdehop on Jun 7, 2007 8:01:01 GMT
I do think that Breheny's recent articles are a bit strange and could be construed as biased against Kerry. However it's the usual old early championship slings and arrows that Kerry faces routinely. Remember Colm Keyes article in the Sunday Independent last year? He questioned Colm Cooper and his dedication , lifestlye and fitness etc and only a few months after the death of his father. Here's an extract ' Cooper is a young man in his early 20s, entitled to enjoy life away from sport too. He has played a lot of football over the last four seasons and may just be tiring of being at the pinnacle for so long. Perhaps there is also room for improvement in his current application to lifestyle and training'. I agree with Tagheen here. I remember that article well. It was a low even for the independent. I can't understand how the indenpendent was not boycotted after that. They should never again be entitled to get a quote or any cooperation from Kerry after that article. I saw Keys hanging around after a Crokes game in the Munster championship looking for quotes: he should have been roasted on spit on the spot. His article was an abuse by a public company who make money from covering the Kerry team of an amateur player. |
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 7, 2007 8:06:35 GMT
galway,martin brehenys own county have to beat mayo,leitrim and roscommon to get to the quarter finals via the front door.
cork have to beat limerick,tipperary and kerry to get to the quarter final via the front door.
is there really much of a difference between the routes of the two provences,might this explain mayo coming from connaght,a easy route to the final getting to the final and not been actually good enough to win it.
why so havent cork,galway and mayo won over thirty all-ireland finals,there all in single digits,would martins comments have any thing to do jealousy or begrudgery.
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