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Post by sharp on Jun 20, 2006 16:20:48 GMT
yes also heard that beale had a back game with mitchels called off a few months back also due to a wedding in mitchels and that game had been fixed since start of year
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Post by realist on Jun 20, 2006 16:32:54 GMT
Beale are playing Mitchels this weekend as far as I know in that back game. Thats a real important game and will have a huge bearing on who is going to go up!
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Post by fiorgael on Jun 20, 2006 16:57:10 GMT
Lads the game was fixed for last Sat. Referee was there Beale were on the pitch warming up. It won take up too much time at county board level, beale will get points. Beale play mitchels in mitchels this weekend in back game. Mitchels were unable to play back game cause of co cship commitments.
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Post by JOAN on Jun 20, 2006 19:06:28 GMT
Cant believe that a walkover would be giving and that a club like beale would take the points.
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Post by Aodhan on Jun 20, 2006 20:04:08 GMT
Why are Beale becoming the vilians here? All they did was try and fulfill a fixture and on the other teams home ground at that. As fiorgael stated it should be an easy decision for the county board. If Beale go against the boards likely decision and insist on rescheduling the game it would be a precedent in the history of the GAA.
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Post by buck02 on Jun 21, 2006 8:35:42 GMT
Cant believe that a walkover would be giving and that a club like beale would take the points. Comments like this play straight into the hands of those who say women should have no opinion on football matters!!!
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Post by FootballFan on Jun 21, 2006 12:30:06 GMT
Interestingly enough if you look at Willie O Connors Weekly Column on this website for Thursday 15th June as far as i can make out he makes no mention of the Beale v Tarbert game for the following weekend. He says that there was 8 Co Championship games to be played last weekend and that the next round of the Co League is on July 2nd! Am i just adding fuel to the fire up in North Kerry
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Post by austinstacksabu on Jun 21, 2006 13:02:17 GMT
Am i just adding fuel to the fire up in North Kerry Are they reading this up in North Kerry?
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Post by JOAN on Jun 21, 2006 17:42:28 GMT
Buck thanks for the vote of confidance and I guess you would be one of those people. Alot could be said about some of the male dribble that goes on this fourm but that is for another day.I am long enough around teams and my own club not sitting in the stands either to be able to stand by what I said. I checked the fixtures schedule and there was no mention of that game as well as the fact that I was talking to someone very involved in Tarbert GAA they knew notting of the game. I still dont like teams getting poing t for games not played unless it was a decision by both involved or a meanless game. No team likes a walkover.
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Post by MrT on Jun 22, 2006 11:46:30 GMT
I still dont like teams getting poing t for games not played unless it was a decision by both involved or a meanless game. No team likes a walkover. Agree with you there JOAN,if Beale happen to get promoted n 1/2 points seperate them from another team who failed to get promoted tis fairly unfair on the unpromoted team who played hard in all their games.the same applies about tarbert if they loose out by the 2 points lost. admittidely id probably take the points aswell ,cant blame beale for that really, but tis a bit unfair on ALL the teams in d division as those 2 points could make a huge difference come the end of the season. Ive a sneakin suspecion that the county board will have to intervene cos if tarbert did have the weekend booked off till be a fairly harsh punishment for them
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Post by realist on Jun 22, 2006 14:41:46 GMT
The fact that Tarbert didn't turn up at all is no different from what happens in the last round or 2 of the leagues anyway when teams with nothing to play for show up with a bum team and more or less throw the game(although the fixture is in fact fulfilled). Tarbert must have know or heard from someone or through someone that Beale were planning to travel over for a game on the weekend? It's not like the 2 clubs are a million miles away and communication was impossible???
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Post by realist on Jun 22, 2006 14:43:53 GMT
Oh and another question. I didn't think that you could just "book a weekend off" for a team??? I always thought that the other team had to at least be in agreement?? And wasn't this a back game that had already been called off??? To the best of my knowledge you can't call the same game off twice unless both clubs agree?
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Post by JOAN on Jun 22, 2006 19:11:10 GMT
As with any county Board a team that has advance knowledge of a date that maybe clashing with a wedding or exams etc they can request a fixture change with the Schedule committee this does not have to be in agreement with the other team Only if the date is fixed and both teams agree to a change of venue or date can it be done. I understand this game was requseted off months in advance. I also Know that Tarbert were under the understanding that this game was off and did not have a team ready at will to call when Beale took the field. I am not blaming them for taking the points I just find it hard to believe that they would as they are a very proud club and are always up to for a game
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Post by expert05 on Jun 22, 2006 23:01:42 GMT
Its not the first time there have been communication barriers within the Tarbert ranks. However to think they had the weekend off is a joke! The game was advertised in the paper and on aertel. Beale and the referee showed up expecting a game. Beale deserve the points full stop. The game had to be played anyway as it was a back game due to junior c'ship replay. From what i hear and bannerman has been mentioning is that Tarbert have a very small panel at the moment. But still they should easily field a decent 15. Beale are looking strong for promotion and i think the mitchells will join them.
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Post by nk05 on Jun 23, 2006 11:18:15 GMT
Tarbert knew well bout d game,d ref & beale team were there,also heard couple of mitchels fellas came out 2 watch d game,so tarbert cant say they didnt no there was no game,they try 2 pull a fast 1,chancers,they lost 2 games in a round,they wanted 2 stop d bad results by not playing games 4 while,get d confidence back.beale deserve d pts,only rite
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Post by austinstacksabu on Jun 23, 2006 13:57:53 GMT
How does not playing games build up your confidence? Do they hit the drink for a week and get dutch courage or something?
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Post by MrT on Jun 23, 2006 15:11:17 GMT
I suppose there is no1 actually from Tarbert on this forumn who might be able to enlighten us with some of the details(their version).Is this gonna go before a meeting or Beale get points ,matter closed?
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Post by JOAN on Jun 23, 2006 16:23:08 GMT
I understand that the points will be giving to Beale. Abu you are 100% right not playing does not get your confidence back. Yes Tarbert are missing players but they still have plenty to field a team. Tarbert players were not aware there was a game. Oh Well!!!!
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Post by expert05 on Jun 23, 2006 19:32:14 GMT
Beale deserve the points of course. Tarbert had absolutely no excuse that we are aware of that they were unable to play. Did they want to avoid a potential hammering? i know that sounds a bit stupid as they are very evenly matched. But Tarbert are hiding something from us. Either that or a communication mix up!
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Post by JOAN on Jun 23, 2006 20:53:09 GMT
I would think its the latter. Dont think Tarbert are hiding anything from you. I happen to know that the players were under the impression that there was no game.
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Post by bannerman on Jun 24, 2006 11:35:18 GMT
Tarbert players knew there was a game but were informed from management team on thurs night that game was called off.... they did this because they knew they would not win.... it serves them right... they should have played the game.... the week before ballyduff played tarbert with only five proper first team players... tarbert were missing 3 or four at the most for the beale game.... Tarbert putting lots of pressure on themselves after getting themselves into fine position
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Post by Aodhan on Jun 24, 2006 14:15:21 GMT
Getting close to the truth there bannerman, very obvious why Tarbert did not show up. The county board may bail or is it beale them out yet. Part of the strategy.
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Post by bannerman on Jun 24, 2006 14:19:30 GMT
While I think it will be wrong if the rules are properly enforced beale and tarbert will have to replay as beale was mitchels was called off before tarbert and beale and cancelled games are meant to be played in sequence.... meaning beale game with mitchels should have been played first
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Post by Aodhan on Jun 24, 2006 14:40:52 GMT
Never heard that rule before, I'm sure Beale would have prefered to play the game. Those two boys gone to NY did not help Tarberts case plus the regular injuries all clubs have to endure.
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Post by bannerman on Jun 24, 2006 17:31:49 GMT
I was reliably informed that Tarbert had a panel of 26 players for junior champ replay v beale.... now they were missing five for the game that wasnt last saturday that still leaves them with 20 odd players..... now its obvious that the management dont believe they have strength in depth needed.....
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Post by JOAN on Jun 25, 2006 14:58:13 GMT
disagree bannerman I dont know who you are talking to in tarbert but I can tell you at no time did the players know thye were up sat evening. They had also meet ballyduff less than a week prior and yes did have a panel of 26 an lossed the north kerry league semi final by one. And the 5 away or injured were not there for that either. That does not mean managment dont believe the have the depth if anything it shows the opposite
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Post by bannerman on Jun 25, 2006 17:48:16 GMT
Joan stick to the New York football scene because the tarbert players knew about this game.... the fact that the managers told players no game says everything...
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Post by expert05 on Jun 26, 2006 22:55:07 GMT
joan, bannerman is right. that is a very poor attitude not even to field a team. Tarbert developing a trend of giving walkovers.
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Post by MrT on Jun 27, 2006 14:03:19 GMT
Round 6 w/e July 2 St. Pat's v Valentia - ValentiaCastlegregory v Glenflesk - GlenfeskKenmare v Ballymacelligott - BallymacelligottBeale v Renard - BealeLispole v Legion - LegionJohn Mitchels v Tarbert - DrawAssuming all the fixtures are fulfilled there are a few games here that are hard to call. Both Mitchels n Tarbert seem to be falling apart and could quite easily slide down the table.Beale goin strong at the moment,Good win over Mitchels on sunday,Ballymac on the back of a big win over St. Pats while the rest are difficuly enough to call
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Post by fiorgael on Jun 27, 2006 14:14:03 GMT
Mitchels are decimated with injuries suspenion & Kerry minor at d moment. The lost brendan o mahony after 5mins last sunday with shoulder injury and stephen o mahony after 10mins with broken bones in his hand. Brian Costello is with the kerry minors, Ger dan dennehy and fergus o connor are long term injuries. strugglin for a team this weekend at home to tarbert. If they drop points nxt wkend the can forget about promotion
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