Why was the forumdown so long?

[kerrygold]

If there is a will theres a way,with a bit of thought and planning underage teams in the county could benifit from it as well.

[BIGMAC]

kerrygold said:

bigmac said:

the 1st outsider to get a K i hope ;D

should that not be "blowin" ;D

i take it whatever way i get it

[austinstacksabu]

You can get a full time webmaster for alot less than that.

[BIGMAC]

apart from the admin how many other moderators are there

[Mickmack]

Maybe too much dirty linen was aired on this site to the world....... its well known that journalists from the dailys scan these sites.................... is that the real reason for the shutdown........... just wonderin aloud

[austinstacksabu]

You hit the nail on the head.

[Joxer]

Can you tell us Admin why its not now possible to restore the website and forum as had been hoped after the oct. downtime? Is it down to resources or are there other tech. reasons? Will we have to go away and set up a forum of our own?

[seamus]

I hope that this is a windup. If not i hope the members will be given the chance to make alternative arrangements.

[kerrygold]

honest, frank discussion to the bone is what makes this forum worth loggin into,anything else would result in a mickey mouse forum and a waste of time.

[Liamo]

Lads and Lassies I'm working on an alternative as we speak. It may come to nothing but I am looking at setting up something should this board cease to exist.

It might take a little bit of time but we will get back up and running alright.

[mozzy]

Liamo

how will you inform members of the alternative if the forum is down... how do we contact your proposed site/alternative

[kerrygold]

A forum on kerry gaa matters should be run by the county board,its worth fighting for to save it even if we have to fund it ourselves.

its a sad day in kerry if a forum is closed down because of brutally honest frank to the bone discussion about kerry football matters,kerry football something we all live for and work for to follow.

i'd perfer to think this is more of a administation problem,its time we were informed exactly whats going on by admin and the powers that be.

hold yere fire till were told exactly whats going on with the forum.Come on admin why the silence?.

great post gawsie,sums up exactly why i cherish the kerry blood that gushes through my vains with pride.

[kerrygold]

Ps.seamus moynihan has retired one of the greatest players ever to wear a kerry jersey and we cant give him a send off from the forum.

we cant discuss the retirement of mike mc carthy and the management team.

we cant discuss the shambles in croker with the aussies.

we cant discuss the all stars,

we cant discuss the new candidates for the next kerry manager.

we cant discuss the show piece in killarney on sunday our co. final.


a small bit sad considering the contribution nearly 2000 members have made to this forum,everyone of them unique,intertaining and knodgleable.

[thehighfield]

Lads and Lassies this thread is still open.

Let's discuss everything under the heading of "Why was the forum down so long" ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

On a more serious note there are at least two options:

1.Find out why the forum is really being binned: Funding? what about advertising on the page - I see an AIB ad at the top of this page. Or is it content??? Granted it would take a lot of time to scan every post and make sure there is nothing libelous in a post (as was said, players contact the site looking for posts to be remove and the Admin does a fantastic job on keeping people in check), but how about getting some of the 1K+ boys to contribute some time to the same job, they could sign up a few other trusted friends who don't have as many posts.

2. Start up a new proboards forum and call the unofficial forum. It wouldn't take much posting and instant messaging to get the message out that this is the new Kerry GAA talk-space. Obviously the main problem with this is, once again, people saying libelous things but with a few trusted names at the helm it could take off.

Any thoughts?

[kerrygold]

dont abuse this thread or it might be pulled also,stick too the threads title.

wait and see what plans admin and kerry gaa have before going off setting up a new forum.

they deserve that respect seeing the fanstatic job they have done hear to date.

the service provided here was second to none during the summer and around the all-ireland final time.

sit tight for a while,they have given us this medium here at the moment to express our view points.Respect that.

[ciarrai33]

This forum has whiled many boring days for me at work. It has informed, educated and helped me form my current opinons on gaa matters. After the post match banter and the monday papers its is the final word on what just happened on the weekend.
We definitly cannot just let it die.

[Liamo]

Kerrygold I agree with you 100%. I'm hoping that this forum will stay up, but am just looking into getting another one up and running if this one does go down.

I've been a member here for a long time and even though I never posted much I have checked in nearly every day to keep an eye on goings on.

Whatever about the forum being run by the county board, I can understand if the resources are not there to keep a forum going but the offical website should be retained at all costs by the country board.

Mozzy. If it does come to it that the forum has to go down I would hope that hey would keep it going long enough to redirect all member to a new forum.

[dec]

"Where is a will there is a way"

I think nobody could see any reason why we shouldn't have a GAA forum on here. Its just a great resource and highly instructive, especially for people away from their native land......

Admin mentioned lack of resources! I wonder what this means exactly.. What resources are needed? Is it money... or people to manage the forum?? There are many people here who would help out in anyway way they can (me included).

I think the Kerry County Board in all its progessivity will do all thats required to keep this show up and running..

If additional resources are required..then let us know what they are............

This forum is too much of a good thing to simply let die...

[Attacking Wing Back]

I have created a new forum. Very similar to this one at kerrygaa.myfastforum.org
if any one is interested in being a moderator plese pm me

[kerrygold]

we should wait and see what plans admin have first before the masses jump ship.

[KevinT]

The hours of endless enjoyment this site has given me. Lets hope it can be kept going. I too will be willing to make a contribution , either financially or time wise.

[westkerryace]

Why dont people just use the link above?
kerrygaa.myfastforum.org/

[RashersTierney]

This is awful news, where else can an oul Dub go to wind up the cousins?
Seriously, it would be a terrible loss, definitely the best site I have seen of all for GAA. If it's subscriptions that are required then I would subscribe without hesitation.
Seems very odd that so little explanation is forthcoming. I e-mailed the website twice, during October & again this month, and got no reply.
Is it a case of the old Irish attitude to providing a service - "be grateful for what you've got & tough **** if you dont get it"
While I'm at it, I hope some of you will make the short cyber trek to reservoirdubs.com & help liven up our forum a bit!

Finally (I've waited 7 weeks to say this) Congrats to all Kerry fans on winning Sam for the 500th time, a devastating performance, I just wish we had been there to give yis a game, we really blew it.
Well deserved after narrow defeats in recent years, and brought back some thrilling football, the play of the O'Shea's, Pony, O'Mahony (pure class), Galvin, the younger O'Sullivan, Brosnan, Cooper, Star........inspiring stuff
Well done on winning the media propoganda war as usual, never have so many "crises" been so well manipulated, from start to finish, even the early stages of the Munster Championship, "woe is us, Cooper has lost it, we need to beat Waterford by 50 points or we're all dooooomed!" LOL

As regards the Kerry management question, I dont believe for a minute that after yet another bout of crisis, dispute & seeming confusion that JOC & one or two of the old warhorses will not be persuaded back, when push comes to shove, to chase the one remaining great ambition of winning back-to-back Sams for the first time since the dinosaurs. these are very highly motivated & ambitious people, and besides, it's only fair on the rest of the country to allow another shot at them!
Are you seriously trying to say JOC & Dara OS & Pony et al dont want another tilt at Tyrone, or maybe the Dubs in the final???

[kerrygold]

westkerryace said:

Why dont people just use the link above?
kerrygaa.myfastforum.org/

if you take a look around you will see that a lot of people have been around here for a long time building up the forum over a period of time.

[Attacking Wing Back]

Hi Lads. as already stated I have set up a new forum for us to air our views on while this forum and website is being fixed. Maybe the admin could do the website and some of the top posters from this forum can be appointed as moderators in the new one. I am currently looking into a means of importing this forum into the new one so that hopefully people wont loose what they have done already. However it seems unlikely to do at this stage. Any body yhat want to be a moderator just pm me.


kerrygaa.myfastforum.org/

[topcat]

kerrygold said:

westkerryace said:

Why dont people just use the link above?
kerrygaa.myfastforum.org/

if you take a look around you will see that a lot of people have been around here for a long time building up the forum over a period of time.

Why dont people use the other forum for the time being?
It will be the same people talking anyhow so what difference does it make where it is?

[westkerryace]

I agree with the above. I think its a shame people wont be able to get together and discuss the county final and so on. Also i see theres a thread for the late great Liam Higgins. People should be able to come togther and pay their respects to the man.

[kerryman]

The forum is back but it ain't working.
I want to post congratulations thread to South Kerry but can't.

[Admin]

We're working on it.

The forum and website were maintained by one person for the last 8 years. This person is no longer in a position to update the website and/or monitor the posts on this site.

1. We need to introduce new Moderators for the forum to ensure it continues. We are not hoping it will just "wither away" Gawskie (but thanks for your comments), but it is difficult to set up a team to run it according to official rules.

Anyone interested would need to agree to remove any comments whenever requested (without question), and you would have to maintain an official line for all topics and posts. See the "General Comments" below for an idea of how moderators would need to think/act. (and as we know, not everyone will agree with that and therefore would not be suitable as a Moderator)

2. The website will need to be handed over to a new company or individual to provide regular updates and maintainance.

Please email [e-mail] with your details if you are interested. & thank you to those who have already offered your help.

We will try to implement some solution in the next few weeks.

Admin

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General Comments (as posted earlier in the year):

Unfortunately, just because other people agree with comments does not automatically make them suitable for print! Everyone surely realises that. Majority rule cannot apply on a public forum – as people will quickly take advantage. (Many posts are deleted and users banned every week – and there is no other way – some users are way out of line).

The purpose of this forum is to promote Kerry GAA when possible, and we will accept constructive criticism, but there is no place for rumours, slander, abuse, pointless criticism, personal comments etc. Clean, Fair, Honest, Accurate, Constructive criticism is welcome.

And ideally, we would ask that EVERY contributor post their full name and contact details – but the mask of anonymity is far more appealing it seems! This influences the level of censorship also.

- we have the facilities to include only valid constructive criticism and content that promotes Kerry GAA, so do you not expect us to implement this control – at least to some degree?

Have a look at some of the other GAA forums – a lot which has fallen in anarchy – read some of the posts - and honestly ask yourself if it fair to players and management (and their families) to have to read criticise to such a hateful degree from these sites.

By enforcing some level of censorship over the years on this site, we now have a core group of outstanding contributors on the Kerry forum that know to keep it fair and honest.

But at the same time, we have lost some fine contributors over the years because we deemed their posts unsuitable and they disagreed with the slap on the wrist. It is a shame. But sometimes passion becomes anger, and anger is released in severe criticism/abuse and there becomes a need to modify/delete/ban.

More than once, a club representative, a family member or a player themselves have actually contacted us and asked that content be removed.
- People DO read the forum, the posts can do harm, and we have to be constantly aware of how a simple criticism might seriously upset someone. Understandable?


Finally, a question that has been put to many members of this forum… What right do we have to (anonymously) criticise so publicly and so vehemently the players and management who put in far more that we can imagine?

These guys bust a gut for the jersey all year round, give nothing less that 110% in every game, and yet we saunter onto the forum on a Monday morning and nit-pick at every dropped ball or mis-kick or unfashionable selection – sometimes to an unreasonable degree. Not right.

[doghouse]

no mention anywhere of the late great LIAM HIGGINS , may he rest in peace