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Post by wonka on Apr 3, 2006 11:42:28 GMT
well anyone want to predict any clubs that have what it takes to win the conty championship, by over coming south kerry dominance in the pass three years...........
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Post by FatTom on Apr 3, 2006 11:44:15 GMT
Gaeltacht and Crokes will have a good chance. Depending on what stage they meet sth kerry. If early on they will have a good chance. Rangers will be there or thereabouts too depending on Frannys form.
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Post by wonka on Apr 3, 2006 11:47:35 GMT
ya can see one of those two winning it this year!appartently gealtacht are going well-have all there players back and want to give it another shot-
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Post by wonka on Apr 3, 2006 13:19:28 GMT
rathmore may do well this year
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Post by seamus on Apr 4, 2006 8:11:21 GMT
Has to be South Kerry lads. The strength in depth is too much.
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Post by realist on Apr 4, 2006 9:40:37 GMT
Wide open this year. Can't see South Kerry doing a third one. I think it will be a club victory this year. my tip An Gaeltacht. They seem to be firing again under fergal se.
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Post by kerryman on Apr 5, 2006 9:34:50 GMT
I'd obviously love to see South Kerry doing well but it would do Kerry clubs the power of good if a club won it. Gaeltacht are my 2nd favourites (after South Kerry).
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Post by Aine on Apr 5, 2006 9:45:12 GMT
I think An Gaeltacht could do it this year. They looked good last year and should only get stronger.
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Post by inforthebreaks on Apr 5, 2006 9:51:44 GMT
For the quality of players and strength in depth its hard to look beyond South Kerry. But divisional teams (and particularly South Kerry) find it hard t gel sometimes. When the chips are really down a fella is more prepared to throw his body on the line for a clubmate than for someone who he will be trying to knock the head off the following week in the south kerry championship.
I would say Crokes have to be the most likely of the clubs to challenge South Kerry this year.
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Post by wonka on Apr 5, 2006 12:20:50 GMT
i can see dingle doing well this year!they deserve to be in this championship and can see them winning it few years down the road!all young players-but ye ll all be suprised with them
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Post by matchspy100 on Apr 5, 2006 15:58:11 GMT
Ya we all agree that South Kerry are strong and will be there or there abouts, but theres this idea and seamus you mentioned it in your last post on this site that their strenght in depth is too much...Where do people see this strenght or What players in depth do they have??
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Post by starsailor on Apr 5, 2006 18:28:53 GMT
laune rangers...
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Post by seamus on Apr 6, 2006 10:49:41 GMT
Matchspy, Just to elaborate on my last post. As far as i can recall the subs bench for South Kerry last year included Sean Hussey, Brian Hickey etc.
They team has current Kerry panellists - Declan O'Sullivan, Brian Sheehan, Ronan O'Connor, Adrian O'Connell, Ronan Hussey and Brian Hickey. Throw in former Kerry stars Maurice Fitz, Denis ODwyer and Killian Burns as well as current county u21s Killian Young, Mike Curran and Paul O'Connor. They also have seasoned championship performers like John Sugrue,Sean Hussey, Mark Drummond, Stephen O'Sullivan and Denis O'Sullivan. And that is not even including upcoming stars like Paddy Curran who will play for Kerry. Should any player get injured they can call on either a seasoned championship performer or an up and coming starlet. No other team has that. Even the gaeltacht have to carry 3 or 4 average players in their starting 15.
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Post by buck02 on Apr 6, 2006 11:01:24 GMT
Theres no doubting the current pool of talent in the South and it will be a great testiment to the management if they could complete a 3 in a row. The Gaeltacht do seem to have many young players coming through at the moment and they might just have too much mileage to pull off another championship. Crokes on the other hand might still be that bit too young and light, especially given the final stages of the competition will (hopefully) be played in October and even November. Other than these 3 I cant see any other serious challengers but South Kerry must be considered worthy favourites.
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Post by Walter Mitty on Apr 6, 2006 12:43:45 GMT
I'd like to re-iterate my protest against South Kerrys pick - St Mary's - Valentia - St Micheals and Foilmore (2 parishes in itself!!) - Renard - Waterville - Dromid Pearses - Derrynane - Sneem - Skellig Rangers
Sneem Derrynane and say Waterville should be made play with Kenmare
Otherwise, I can't see anyone touching South Kerry for the next 2-3 years
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Post by kerry50 on Apr 6, 2006 13:15:17 GMT
Well Walter_Mitty no one was giving out about their strength & depths a few years ago when south kerry were winning * all did they!! They have put in a big effort in south kerry with under-age plus a few years back you had clubs such as Renard were in Div 5 St Michaels/Foilmore, Skellig Rangers & Dromid were all Div 4, so obviously the clubs in south kerry have put in a big effort also. Few years ago people were saying on this website that the Divisional sides should be scraped because they weren't challanging the clubs for the Championship so yes they ave a big pick but that doesn't guarantee sucess. One of the reasons they ave strength and depth cos they've worked hard in the clubs and have got a good structure down in south kerry now.
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 6, 2006 13:28:18 GMT
you got there before me kerry50,well said,south kerry only won 4 or 5 championships in the last 50 years or so,just because they have won two in a row your getting up on your high horse,give yourself a break.its great south kerry and the small rural clubs that make up the district can field teams at all considering the amount of people that have had to leave the area over the decades.Maybe you should take a look at the what they have done at school level and try it in your own area and keep a lid on the begrudgery.Also south kerry have had only one player starting on the kerry fifteen over the last two summers,that says to me that there a lot of very goog club players working their arse's off.
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Post by seamus on Apr 6, 2006 13:33:40 GMT
Colaiste Na Scelige was definitely the catalyst for the revival in South Kerry. It gave players from small clubs the opportunity to play on the national stage and gave them the exposure needed to make the breakthrough with county teams as well as giving them the basic understanding of the dedication required to succeed.
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Post by buck02 on Apr 6, 2006 13:57:08 GMT
South Kerry owe a great deal of gratitude to Jack Connor and his people for the work they've put into football in Coliaste na Sceilge (and to John O Donoghue for the facilities in the school!) which have definately been a major factor in South Kerrys success over the last two years.
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Post by kerry50 on Apr 6, 2006 15:08:50 GMT
Coliaste Na Sceilge has helped with south kerry sucess but the clubs themselves have done a lot of good work also which isn't given enough credit, I agree Jack O Connor has done wonders down south with da school teams but if you look at da starting 15 that beat the Crokes last year in The County Final only 4 were past pupils of the school, Byran Sheehan, Declan O Sullivan, Sean Fogarty & Adrian O Connell. The school is only open about 5 years or so.
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Post by Admin on Apr 7, 2006 14:35:16 GMT
The draw for the first round of the AIB County Senior Football and Hurling Championships will be made during the Ciarraí Abú programme on Radio Kerry from 9.00 p.m. to 10.00 p.m. on Wednesday April 19th.
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Post by SteelFixer on Apr 7, 2006 16:54:27 GMT
I'm with Walter Mitty to a point on this one !
I've always felt that Sneem should be in with Kenmare, and probably Derrynane aswell !
Sneem were in with Kenmare until the late 60's and joined South Kerry when the county board un-successfully tried to scrap the Kenmare board ! I even saw in the county final programme last year where Ronan Hussey's father palyed with Kenmare in a county final in the 1950's. A number of years ago Sneem tried to re-join Kenmare, However I understand that a combination of the South Kerry board and the county board prevented them !
My opinion on this has nothing to do with been envious or jealous of South Kerry ! In fact I was delighted to see them win the last two SFC's as it was a great tonic for all the divisional sides and our County Championship system ! And they have set the standard in terms of committment and organisation ! However they could function just a good without Sneem and have plenty of quality players to fill the void that would be left by the loss of Hussey, Burns and Drummond !
No one can argue that it would'nt serve the greater good ! It would mean that Kenmare would be serious contenders for the SFC and would also enable more Sneem players play SFC, aswell as freeing up spaces for other fellas's on the South Kerry panel ! The same could be said for Derrynane, who have a number of useful players who don't get a look in with South Kerry !
Finally I'll just say that from a social and geographical point of view Sneem belong with Kenmare aswell ! Most Sneem fella's would head in to Kenmare on a Saturday nite I would imagine and they probably went to school there too ! Sneem is only around 10 to 15 miles from Kenmare, while it is around 30 from Cahersiveen across the worst roads in Ireland !
The County Board should push this subject, even if Sneem or Kenmare (unlikely) dont like it ! Because as I say it would be for the greater good !
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Post by wonka on Apr 11, 2006 7:33:37 GMT
THE DRAW IS BEING MADE TONIGHT FOR THE COUNTY CHAMPIONSHIP
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Post by SteelFixer on Apr 11, 2006 9:52:28 GMT
I think you have your wires crossed there Wonka !
According to this forum and Willie Connor in the Kerryman, the senior draws are'nt been made until tomorrow night week on Radio Kerry's 'Ciarrai Abu' programme !
Is it the Minor or U21 that your talking about ?
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Post by wonka on Apr 11, 2006 10:49:10 GMT
ya minor and under21 it might be so
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Post by kanye on Apr 12, 2006 11:52:58 GMT
fair play to south kerry with there success im from shannon rangers and it is great seeing a divisional side doin well it is an inspiration for us .we have really started to cop on at underage in the last few years thanks mainly to john kennedy i think we can be up near the top in 4 or 5 years time
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Post by inforthebreaks on Apr 12, 2006 12:05:41 GMT
Noone was saying to East Kerry when they won a few championships that some fo their clubs should be moved to another district. or west kerry either. One of the main reasons for South Kerry's strength is that they ahve no senior clubs and a large number of them are playing intermediate and Division 2 football, which means that they are all getting exposed to a high standard of football. If a South Kerry club, say the Mary's, were to win the intermediate and go senior then the south kerry team would be severly weakend. As happened when An Galetacht went senior and werent playing with west Kerry anymore.
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Post by FatTom on Apr 12, 2006 12:21:41 GMT
Exactly. South Kerry shouldn't be broken up until a team wins intermediate. Imagine how poor West Kerry will be if Annascaul win it this year though!
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Post by wonka on Apr 12, 2006 12:26:46 GMT
they'll have nothing-lispole and castle!!!gealtacht,dingle, and annascaul out on there own-they wont have enough to make a team
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Post by FatTom on Apr 12, 2006 12:38:45 GMT
Well they well as both teams field senior teams. but they would be the worst divisional side in the county.
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