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Post by The16thMan on Feb 5, 2024 13:43:41 GMT
So we have our first set of points on the board. Badly wanted as we have Mayo at home next. Mayo have 2 wins from 2 and have yet to conceded a goal in this years league. Kerry have 5 goals in 2 games. It'll be a tough battle and I expect both teams to go strong with team selections. I think out of our team vs Monaghan, fellas that will prob drop out of starting XV are Paul Murphy, Ronan Buckley & one of the Geaneys (could be either). I'd expect the 2 Cliffords & Morley to start this game. I've also been critical of Dylan Casey in the past but I think he's done enough in the opening 2 games to retain a start for this game. From my own supporters point of view, Mayo beat us twice last year by 6 points and 5 points and could argue that both games were over at half time. On top of that, they ended our 28 year home Championship record. This should be enough for Kerry to be gunning for Mayo in my opinion and set the record somewhat straight. Will Jack think like this, I'm not sure. Mayo have somewhat of a dislike towards Kerry recently also and their supporters will admit that. So there's definitely a bit of a rivalry there and Kerry can't afford to lose a 2nd home game and lose to Mayo 3 times in a row also. This game goes down as a must win for me. Jack was smart to give the Cliffords game time prior to this as they won't be as rusty going into it. I'm expecting a big performance from Kerry and hopefully it'll be enough to get us over the line and ready for Dublin in Croke Park the following week.
My team to play Mayo: 1) S.Ryan 2) G.O'Sullivan 3) J.Foley 4) D.Casey 5) T.O'Sullivan 6) T.Morley 7) G.White 8) D.O'Connor 9) J.O'Connor 10) D.Moynihan 11) P.Clifford (c) 12) C.Burke 13) D.Clifford 14) S.O'Shea 15) D.Geaney
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Post by anriochtabu23 on Feb 5, 2024 14:06:28 GMT
That's a formidable 15 and close to a championship team. I'd like to give Dylan Casey a chance to prove himself against Aidan O'Shea. He received very little protection in that game last year from his teammates and Mayo played that game on their own terms. See what he's made of.
Mayo are motoring well as usual at this time of year but they are beatable and there is no love lost between us.
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Post by ataboy on Feb 5, 2024 14:54:38 GMT
So we have our first set of points on the board. Badly wanted as we have Mayo at home next. Mayo have 2 wins from 2 and have yet to conceded a goal in this years league. Kerry have 5 goals in 2 games. It'll be a tough battle and I expect both teams to go strong with team selections. I think out of our team vs Monaghan, fellas that will prob drop out of starting XV are Paul Murphy, Ronan Buckley & one of the Geaneys (could be either). I'd expect the 2 Cliffords & Morley to start this game. I've also been critical of Dylan Casey in the past but I think he's done enough in the opening 2 games to retain a start for this game. From my own supporters point of view, Mayo beat us twice last year by 6 points and 5 points and could argue that both games were over at half time. On top of that, they ended our 28 year home Championship record. This should be enough for Kerry to be gunning for Mayo in my opinion and set the record somewhat straight. Will Jack think like this, I'm not sure. Mayo have somewhat of a dislike towards Kerry recently also and their supporters will admit that. So there's definitely a bit of a rivalry there and Kerry can't afford to lose a 2nd home game and lose to Mayo 3 times in a row also. This game goes down as a must win for me. Jack was smart to give the Cliffords game time prior to this as they won't be as rusty going into it. I'm expecting a big performance from Kerry and hopefully it'll be enough to get us over the line and ready for Dublin in Croke Park the following week. My team to play Mayo: 1) S.Ryan 2) G.O'Sullivan 3) J.Foley 4) D.Casey 5) T.O'Sullivan 6) T.Morley 7) G.White 8) D.O'Connor 9) J.O'Connor 10) D.Moynihan 11) P.Clifford (c) 12) C.Burke 13) D.Clifford 14) S.O'Shea 15) D.Geaney Is this closest to the likely championship team at this stage? Starting to take a bit of shape now. With Seanie playing inside it will really push one of the inside forwards out. How much game time will Spillane, Brosnan, Roche get? Not much
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Post by The16thMan on Feb 5, 2024 15:17:20 GMT
So we have our first set of points on the board. Badly wanted as we have Mayo at home next. Mayo have 2 wins from 2 and have yet to conceded a goal in this years league. Kerry have 5 goals in 2 games. It'll be a tough battle and I expect both teams to go strong with team selections. I think out of our team vs Monaghan, fellas that will prob drop out of starting XV are Paul Murphy, Ronan Buckley & one of the Geaneys (could be either). I'd expect the 2 Cliffords & Morley to start this game. I've also been critical of Dylan Casey in the past but I think he's done enough in the opening 2 games to retain a start for this game. From my own supporters point of view, Mayo beat us twice last year by 6 points and 5 points and could argue that both games were over at half time. On top of that, they ended our 28 year home Championship record. This should be enough for Kerry to be gunning for Mayo in my opinion and set the record somewhat straight. Will Jack think like this, I'm not sure. Mayo have somewhat of a dislike towards Kerry recently also and their supporters will admit that. So there's definitely a bit of a rivalry there and Kerry can't afford to lose a 2nd home game and lose to Mayo 3 times in a row also. This game goes down as a must win for me. Jack was smart to give the Cliffords game time prior to this as they won't be as rusty going into it. I'm expecting a big performance from Kerry and hopefully it'll be enough to get us over the line and ready for Dublin in Croke Park the following week. My team to play Mayo: 1) S.Ryan 2) G.O'Sullivan 3) J.Foley 4) D.Casey 5) T.O'Sullivan 6) T.Morley 7) G.White 8) D.O'Connor 9) J.O'Connor 10) D.Moynihan 11) P.Clifford (c) 12) C.Burke 13) D.Clifford 14) S.O'Shea 15) D.Geaney Is this closest to the likely championship team at this stage? Starting to take a bit of shape now. With Seanie playing inside it will really push one of the inside forwards out. How much game time will Spillane, Brosnan, Roche get? Not much I don't see too many breaking into this team for Championship, maybe Paul Geaney, 1 of Paul Murphy or Brian Begley (if fit). Possibly Adrian Spillane or Stephen O'Brien, if Moynihan or Burke isn't going well.. but they would be the only contenders in my book.
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Post by horsebox77 on Feb 5, 2024 19:29:34 GMT
My team to play Mayo: 1) S.Ryan 2) G.O'Sullivan 3) J.Foley 4) D.Casey 5) T.O'Sullivan 6) T.Morley 7) G.White 8) D.O'Connor 9) J.O'Connor 10) D.Moynihan 11) P.Clifford (c) 12) C.Burke 13) D.Clifford 14) S.O'Shea 15) D.Geaney Hard to argue with that XV, Casey will get a firm test, I would love to see a fit again O'Beragleoich in the mix, my C'ship XV in my head, my preferred selection is taking shape, and that has the Gaeltacht man ahead of the Tralee man, he is a better baller and a more solid option for the short kickout. The rest I would agree with number 15 could be any Geaney but was is telling is the Geaney's and Killian are well ahead of Dara Roche, how isn't getting a look in, that even before Paul and Tony Brosnan get back in the panel, as well as any U20 bolter...
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Feb 5, 2024 23:07:56 GMT
While we want a settled team for the championship if we dont give some players proper game time they might not be ready for champuonship.Sean O Brien needs more time as does Dara Roche and even Ronan Buckley.We need to have a strong panel for thw championship and be ready to call on any player from the 26 at anytime.My team v Mayo .Ryan.2.Graham .3.Jason .4.Casey 5.Tom Sull.6.Morley .7.Sean O Brien.8.Joe O C.9.Diarmuid.10.Moynihan .11.Paudie.12.Burke.13.Conor Geaney.14.Darragh Roche.15.Seanie Agree with your overall point but disagree with some of the players you’ve mentioned. Ronan Buckley and Darragh Roche won’t be in the championship 26 so it’s pointless giving them league time. Even Conor Geaney will struggle to make the 26 when in competition with David, Seanie, Paul Geaney, Killian Spillane, Tony Brosnan and his brother Dylan. The league is about developing options as you say. So far we are developing Dylan Casey as a corner back option, Joe O’Connor at midfield and Cillian Burke and Dylan Geaney in the forwards. I think it’d be worthwhile to give Sean O’Brien a start or two at wing back. I consider him a better wing back than midfielder. He’d bring something different to our other wing back options. I also feel we could do with another option at wing forward. There are 2 players I would consider. One is Ruairi Murphy if he returns from injury. Probably unlikely as he didn’t overly impress last year and has now missed months of football. He has shown ability though at different levels and Jack seems to really rate him. The other is Paul Murphy. Plays at 11 for Rathmore and I thought he was good when Fitzmaurice played him there. Isn’t in our best 6 backs for me so think it could be worth a look.
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Post by john4 on Feb 6, 2024 0:07:21 GMT
While we want a settled team for the championship if we dont give some players proper game time they might not be ready for champuonship.Sean O Brien needs more time as does Dara Roche and even Ronan Buckley.We need to have a strong panel for thw championship and be ready to call on any player from the 26 at anytime.My team v Mayo .Ryan.2.Graham .3.Jason .4.Casey 5.Tom Sull.6.Morley .7.Sean O Brien.8.Joe O C.9.Diarmuid.10.Moynihan .11.Paudie.12.Burke.13.Conor Geaney.14.Darragh Roche.15.Seanie Agree with your overall point but disagree with some of the players you’ve mentioned. Ronan Buckley and Darragh Roche won’t be in the championship 26 so it’s pointless giving them league time. Even Conor Geaney will struggle to make the 26 when in competition with David, Seanie, Paul Geaney, Killian Spillane, Tony Brosnan and his brother Dylan. The league is about developing options as you say. So far we are developing Dylan Casey as a corner back option, Joe O’Connor at midfield and Cillian Burke and Dylan Geaney in the forwards. I think it’d be worthwhile to give Sean O’Brien a start or two at wing back. I consider him a better wing back than midfielder. He’d bring something different to our other wing back options. I also feel we could do with another option at wing forward. There are 2 players I would consider. One is Ruairi Murphy if he returns from injury. Probably unlikely as he didn’t overly impress last year and has now missed months of football. He has shown ability though at different levels and Jack seems to really rate him. The other is Paul Murphy. Plays at 11 for Rathmore and I thought he was good when Fitzmaurice played him there. Isn’t in our best 6 backs for me so think it could be worth a look. Might be harsh to say but I think we've seen enough of Killian Spillane, he just doesn't work hard enough when we don't have the ball, lacks have the defensive qualities necessary.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 6, 2024 0:17:00 GMT
Agree with your overall point but disagree with some of the players you’ve mentioned. Ronan Buckley and Darragh Roche won’t be in the championship 26 so it’s pointless giving them league time. Even Conor Geaney will struggle to make the 26 when in competition with David, Seanie, Paul Geaney, Killian Spillane, Tony Brosnan and his brother Dylan. The league is about developing options as you say. So far we are developing Dylan Casey as a corner back option, Joe O’Connor at midfield and Cillian Burke and Dylan Geaney in the forwards. I think it’d be worthwhile to give Sean O’Brien a start or two at wing back. I consider him a better wing back than midfielder. He’d bring something different to our other wing back options. I also feel we could do with another option at wing forward. There are 2 players I would consider. One is Ruairi Murphy if he returns from injury. Probably unlikely as he didn’t overly impress last year and has now missed months of football. He has shown ability though at different levels and Jack seems to really rate him. The other is Paul Murphy. Plays at 11 for Rathmore and I thought he was good when Fitzmaurice played him there. Isn’t in our best 6 backs for me so think it could be worth a look. Might be harsh to say but I think we've seen enough of Killian Spillane, he just doesn't work hard enough when we don't have the ball, lacks have the defensive qualities necessary. Killian has never let us down in the summer when it matters. I just don't know if winter football suits him.
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Post by blacksheep21 on Feb 6, 2024 0:43:20 GMT
Crazy to be writing off a guy like Killian Spillane after one league game and he did well in the McGrath cup final. It is great we may have a few more options in the forwards this summer but Burke and especially the two Geaneys still have an awful lot to prove and may not even make the championship panel.
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Post by homerj on Feb 6, 2024 9:23:35 GMT
judging a corner forward on his defensive capabilities, is a sad sign of where the game is at now
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Post by john4 on Feb 6, 2024 9:30:47 GMT
judging a corner forward on his defensive capabilities, is a sad sign of where the game is at now That is the modern game!.No point pretend or wishing it was different. Everyone has to pick up a position in the defensive formation and for me, (and looking back on the Derry match) he gets targeted for his weaknesses in this area. Watch the Derry match again. There's small margins in these IC matches, weaknesses will be capitalized on.
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Post by homerj on Feb 6, 2024 12:15:41 GMT
if he was kicking points, nobody would care about his defending.David isnt exactly known for his defending.
corner forwards should be inside the opposition 21 and rarely have to leave the danger area.
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Post by Deise Exile on Feb 6, 2024 12:45:13 GMT
So we have our first set of points on the board. Badly wanted as we have Mayo at home next. Mayo have 2 wins from 2 and have yet to conceded a goal in this years league. Kerry have 5 goals in 2 games. It'll be a tough battle and I expect both teams to go strong with team selections. I think out of our team vs Monaghan, fellas that will prob drop out of starting XV are Paul Murphy, Ronan Buckley & one of the Geaneys (could be either). I'd expect the 2 Cliffords & Morley to start this game. I've also been critical of Dylan Casey in the past but I think he's done enough in the opening 2 games to retain a start for this game. From my own supporters point of view, Mayo beat us twice last year by 6 points and 5 points and could argue that both games were over at half time. On top of that, they ended our 28 year home Championship record. This should be enough for Kerry to be gunning for Mayo in my opinion and set the record somewhat straight. Will Jack think like this, I'm not sure. Mayo have somewhat of a dislike towards Kerry recently also and their supporters will admit that. So there's definitely a bit of a rivalry there and Kerry can't afford to lose a 2nd home game and lose to Mayo 3 times in a row also. This game goes down as a must win for me. Jack was smart to give the Cliffords game time prior to this as they won't be as rusty going into it. I'm expecting a big performance from Kerry and hopefully it'll be enough to get us over the line and ready for Dublin in Croke Park the following week. My team to play Mayo: 1) S.Ryan 2) G.O'Sullivan 3) J.Foley 4) D.Casey 5) T.O'Sullivan 6) T.Morley 7) G.White 8) D.O'Connor 9) J.O'Connor 10) D.Moynihan 11) P.Clifford (c) 12) C.Burke 13) D.Clifford 14) S.O'Shea 15) D.Geaney Very likely this will be the team
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Post by thehermit on Feb 6, 2024 14:39:12 GMT
This should be a great test in a full ASP and I'd expect a crackling atmosphere around the town and would assume Mayo, as usual, will bring a decent travelling contingent.
Mayo have nice momentum built up now after two rounds. A comprehensive win against Galway and a fortuitous enough one against Dublin Saturday night. Derry are the early season pace setters and Harte seems determined to win as much as he can as quickly as he can to quieten the noise, ergo Mayo would probably have a similar mindset to us for the League - win what you can while testing options for summer days.
That said we do owe Mayo a beating at this stage. Last year's League fixture was a comically bad night out for Kerry and I'm sure I'm not the only one that was angered by how cheaply we seemed to give up our proud home record in Fitzgerald stadium last May.
I would only make some tweaks from what we saw Sunday. Leave midfield and defence as is with the exception of Tadgh replacing Paul to protect against a couple of Mayo's big beasts. Likewise I'd be tempted to leave the Cliffords on the bench and see how last Sunday's forwards cope with this challenge. If its not turning into any of their night call in the cavalry.
A win would be great to keep the momentum going. And I'd be licking my lips at the prospect of Kerry going to Croker on the back of another victory and Dublin (hopefully) still searching for a result!
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 8, 2024 17:39:52 GMT
I wonder if there anyway all TCBs could agree to allow 'paid up' supporters to catch a glimpse of training, say one session, maybe rotating who can attend, maybe on agreement that nil is said publicly until after the following match?
I know I may be repeating myself but we are talking here about something here that none of us know anything about. Just imagine how different the conversations would be if there was an open/partially open doors training policy!
The above is my best solution, and even at that it invites spies.
Does anyone know how other sport work in this respect? A national team like rugby is less open to espionage while I believe the soccer laddos are released by their clubs to assemble just a few days before a game. Does closed doors apply to all GAA/LGFA/Camoagie inter-county codes?
You see what I am angling at? God be with the days I'd be back from abroad workwise and I'd plan my journey around the final training session. It took my bosses almost 10 years to twig why demand for our wares peaked annually in mid Sept in a small corner of the market - would be clients had to be wined and dined in two particular small enough towns on the N22 to get a cheque out of 'em and nothing or nowhere else would work, and God nor man couldn't do anything about it - the customer was always right!
BTW I note the Footballer of the year in order of favouritism are David Clifford, Sean O'Shea, Shane Walsh, Paudie Clifford, Conor Glass and Con O'Callaghan - we have 3 of 6, 3 of 4 actually!
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Post by ciarrai74 on Feb 8, 2024 18:23:51 GMT
I wonder if there anyway all TCBs could agree to allow 'paid up' supporters to catch a glimpse of training, say one session, maybe rotating who can attend, maybe on agreement that nil is said publicly until after the following match? I know I may be repeating myself but we are talking here about something here that none of us know anything about. Just imagine how different the conversations would be if there was an open/partially open doors training policy! The above is my best solution, and even at that it invites spies. Does anyone know how other sport work in this respect? A national team like rugby is less open to espionage while I believe the soccer laddos are released by their clubs to assemble just a few days before a game. Does closed doors apply to all GAA/LGFA/Camoagie inter-county codes? You see what I am angling at? God be with the days I'd be back from abroad workwise and I'd plan my journey around the final training session. It took my bosses almost 10 years to twig why demand for our wares peaked annually in mid Sept in a small corner of the market - would be clients had to be wined and dined in two particular small enough towns on the N22 to get a cheque out of 'em and nothing or nowhere else would work, and God nor man couldn't do anything about it - the customer was always right! BTW I note the Footballer of the year in order of favouritism are David Clifford, Sean O'Shea, Shane Walsh, Paudie Clifford, Conor Glass and Con O'Callaghan - we have 3 of 6, 3 of 4 actually!
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Post by ciarrai74 on Feb 8, 2024 18:25:21 GMT
I had a small investment on Seanie and Paudie for FOTY at 14/1 and 16/1.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 9, 2024 17:19:40 GMT
Jasus you'd miss the football this weekend all the same....
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Post by sullyschoice on Feb 11, 2024 20:02:55 GMT
Jasus you'd miss the football this weekend all the same.... I used the free weekend to take myself off to a Premiership game. Just to remind me how inferior a product it really is. Grown men chanting abuse at each other and having to check what pub you are going into. Good weekend all the same.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 11, 2024 21:15:36 GMT
Jasus you'd miss the football this weekend all the same.... I used the free weekend to take myself off to a Premiership game. Just to remind me how inferior a product it really is. Grown men chanting abuse at each other and having to check what pub you are going into. Good weekend all the same. Where were you Sully ?
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Post by southward on Feb 11, 2024 22:19:12 GMT
Jasus you'd miss the football this weekend all the same.... I used the free weekend to take myself off to a Premiership game. Just to remind me how inferior a product it really is. Grown men chanting abuse at each other and having to check what pub you are going into. Good weekend all the same. And all on behalf of teams stocked by players, probably none of whom come from those parishes - or even from the country itself most of the time. Just like the coaches and the club owners. I really don't get it.
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Post by sullyschoice on Feb 11, 2024 23:45:21 GMT
I used the free weekend to take myself off to a Premiership game. Just to remind me how inferior a product it really is. Grown men chanting abuse at each other and having to check what pub you are going into. Good weekend all the same. Where were you Sully ? Wolves v Brentford. Have been threatening to go for years. A cousin of my mother's played for Wolves in the 1970s so had a soft spot for them. Its strange how small the ground is.
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Post by tonydorigo on Feb 12, 2024 10:46:57 GMT
Wolverhampton not the most salubrious of areas in the UK either. Basically the rust belt of the UK. Pity as so much came out of the area from industry to music.
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Post by sullyschoice on Feb 12, 2024 13:14:45 GMT
I actually stayed in Birmingham, which wouldn't be the most picturesque city either. That's me being kind. But it was fierce handy for airport and Wolverhampton
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Post by anriochtabu23 on Feb 12, 2024 17:09:50 GMT
Ok lads let's keep it to the proper football...
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Post by mike70 on Feb 12, 2024 17:54:56 GMT
I see on Twitter burns has left the kerry panel, def. A loss as a panelist, unfortunetley not a starter for me.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 12, 2024 18:00:25 GMT
I see on Twitter burns has left the kerry panel, def. A loss as a panelist, unfortunetley not a starter for me. My thoughts aswell Mike, Wish Micháel well.
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Post by southward on Feb 12, 2024 19:18:10 GMT
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Post by The16thMan on Feb 12, 2024 20:04:30 GMT
A quote from the examiner from Jack regarding the Mayo game and players available. Sounds like Jack is gonna try get his own back on Mayo after last year judging by what I've read here. Hopefully a big performance awaits us on Saturday evening as I feel Mayo will be going all out to get a result in Tralee in Saturday
" The Kingdom are looking to avoid a three-game losing streak to Kevin McStay’s Mayo under the Saturday night floodlights in Tralee. Having had their asses handed to them in Castlebar a year ago, Kerry then lost their long Championship unbeaten record at Fitzgerald Stadium last summer.
“They gave us two good beatings last year,” O’Connor nodded. “The game in Killarney, that was a big deal to lose our proud home championship record. Dublin played well in Castlebar in Round 2 and Mayo still got the better of them, and that’s without Mattie Ruane, Diarmuid O’Connor or James Carr, though we hear some of those might be back for Saturday.”
Kerry won’t have Paul Geaney back yet. He has rejoined the group but won’t resume full training until next week. Dr Crokes pair, Shane Murphy and Tony Brosnan are back training, but Stephen O’Brien, Briain O’Beaglaoich, Mike Breen and Killian Spillane are unavailable."
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Post by veteran on Feb 12, 2024 20:17:45 GMT
I am disappointed that Michael Burns has left . He was a useful panel member. However , he can have few complaints about match opportunities., getting more chances than most but could never make himself indispensable. The harsh reality is that while Michael is a serious club player he was no more than a squad inter county member. I hope he doesn’t walk away feeling bitter because ,if he is honest with himself , he will surely realise being in with the top players in the county has , inevitably, raised his game.
At 27, my wish is that he made this decision after careful reflection rather than in a fit of pique. I wish him well and thank him for his contribution.
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