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Post by greengold35 on Jun 1, 2023 9:37:35 GMT
Would recommend Scoozies too - also Luigi Malones opposite the opera house, great pizzas etc or Amicus opposite the entrance to Paul St Shopping centre. Thanks lad much appreciated No bother - forgot to mention Isaacs on McCurtain St - very nice & less than 10 mins walk from train station - have a look online but you would definitely need a booking!
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Post by horsebox77 on Jun 1, 2023 10:27:13 GMT
He is involved alright. Same role as last year. Maybe teams have adapted to our system but, you would hope that he has brought something else to the table in terms of tactics or defensive structure from last year. Tally did the warm up & drills before Mayo game - very hands on. Rumours from the camp are that Paul Murphy, Ruairi Murphy & Adrian Spillane will all start on Sat with Casey, Jack Barry & Dara Moynihan dropping to the bench - also expect a few new faces on the bench. O’Beaglaoich not considered following his hamstring tweak but not believed to be serious. Ya, heard the same regarding Spillane going straight into midfield with Jack Barry losing out, heard too that Ruairí or Stephen will take a wing berth.
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Post by thehermit on Jun 1, 2023 12:58:41 GMT
A non game related post, Traveling down hopefully by train on Sat with my daughter for her first game. Can you recommend anywhere for food after the game before we jump on the train back to the North East ? She's only 5 so pizza for example is fine.. any tips for a solo dad would be great! Hope she has a great time Royal, its going to be a long auld journey on the train there and back on Saturday for her! Was humming and hawing about going to this game after the Mayo match but feel you can't let the lads down when they've got their backs to a bit of a wall so I've booked the return train down as well. I wonder what sort of crowd will be there? With the Cork hurlers gone, this is all their GAA fraternity has to support for the summer now. Will the Kerry supporters turn up???
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Post by john4 on Jun 1, 2023 13:04:39 GMT
A non game related post, Traveling down hopefully by train on Sat with my daughter for her first game. Can you recommend anywhere for food after the game before we jump on the train back to the North East ? She's only 5 so pizza for example is fine.. any tips for a solo dad would be great! Hope she has a great time Royal, its going to be a long auld journey on the train there and back on Saturday for her! Was humming and hawing about going to this game after the Mayo match but feel you can't let the lads down when they've got their backs to a bit of a wall so I've booked the return train down as well. I wonder what sort of crowd will be there? With the Cork hurlers gone, this is all their GAA fraternity has to support for the summer now. Will the Kerry supporters turn up??? I've a feeling there'll be more Cork folk on inchydoney beach than inside the walls of PUC
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Jun 1, 2023 13:07:04 GMT
I presume if thats the case that Graham will go to the corner and Murphy will play on the wing. Whatever about Saturday I wouldn't like to be facing one of the top teams with Paul Murphy as a corner back. Strange that we add a bit bit of bite with Adrian Spillane to midfield but, weaken the physicality of our Half Back line by most likely playing Paul Murphy there.
To be honest I don't know much about Ruairi Murphy apart from the sub appearances and one start he made against Galway in the league and the east kerry games. Hopefully he goes well as we are short options in the HF line.
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Post by smalltalk on Jun 1, 2023 14:34:31 GMT
Any suggestions for parking … anyone know if cork con will be open for parking? Travelling up with a smallie also.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jun 1, 2023 14:51:51 GMT
Cork Con is open, saw on social media during week.. tenner parking.
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Post by Jo90 on Jun 1, 2023 15:20:32 GMT
I presume if thats the case that Graham will go to the corner and Murphy will play on the wing. Whatever about Saturday I wouldn't like to be facing one of the top teams with Paul Murphy as a corner back. Strange that we add a bit bit of bite with Adrian Spillane to midfield but, weaken the physicality of our Half Back line by most likely playing Paul Murphy there. To be honest I don't know much about Ruairi Murphy apart from the sub appearances and one start he made against Galway in the league and the east kerry games. Hopefully he goes well as we are short options in the HF line. Murphy came on at HT v Mayo against one of the most in-form players in the country in Ryan O’Donoghue and had cut wreck in the 1st half and Paul kept him completely quiet. Mayo are one of the top teams in the country and O’Donoghue is one of their top players.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jun 1, 2023 17:21:40 GMT
I presume if thats the case that Graham will go to the corner and Murphy will play on the wing. Whatever about Saturday I wouldn't like to be facing one of the top teams with Paul Murphy as a corner back. Strange that we add a bit bit of bite with Adrian Spillane to midfield but, weaken the physicality of our Half Back line by most likely playing Paul Murphy there. To be honest I don't know much about Ruairi Murphy apart from the sub appearances and one start he made against Galway in the league and the east kerry games. Hopefully he goes well as we are short options in the HF line. Murphy came on at HT v Mayo against one of the most in-form players in the country in Ryan O’Donoghue and had cut wreck in the 1st half and Paul kept him completely quiet. Mayo are one of the top teams in the country and O’Donoghue is one of their top players. I see where you are coming from and partly agree, however if Paul is stationed on the wing he will get exposed physically and would be targeted by oppositions kickouts. Even thought slightly short of 6 feet, I'd actually be happier if Mike Breen was selected if there were defensive changes.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 1, 2023 19:04:32 GMT
Murphy in half back Spillane in half forward.
Otherwise it's unchanged.
Disappointed Jack didn't make atleast 1 more change.
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 1, 2023 19:35:18 GMT
I'm not overly happy with the team selection. Glad Adrian in but there should have been more changes. Hope we don't rue this versus Cork. Think there will be more changes come throw in time!
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Post by horsebox77 on Jun 1, 2023 19:54:01 GMT
I'm not overly happy with the team selection. Glad Adrian in but there should have been more changes. Hope we don't rue this versus Cork. Inclined to agree, not happy with Murphy being brutally honest, I feel he could be exposed, more so considering that Dara is directly in front of him. Agree with Adrain.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 1, 2023 20:06:16 GMT
Inclined to agree, not happy with Murphy being brutally honest, I feel he could be exposed, more so considering that Dara is directly in front of him. Agree with Adrain. When has paul murphy ever been exposed? Has been one of our most consistent players for the last ten years not sure where this narrative has come from. When left 1 on 1 with Con Callaghan in the league in 2021. I agree he's been excellent overall but you have to look at the size of our middle 8. Edit It must be said it was his bravey to play a difficult pass that to DC last year that won us the game against Dublin.
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Post by mike70 on Jun 1, 2023 21:05:02 GMT
As another poster has said, hard to see this as the starting line up. Let’s see what Saturday brings.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 1, 2023 21:10:04 GMT
As another poster has said, hard to see this as the starting line up. Let’s see what Saturday brings. That's not really Jack's style though. I don't think he goes in for naming dummy teams.
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Post by The16thMan on Jun 1, 2023 21:35:41 GMT
As another poster has said, hard to see this as the starting line up. Let’s see what Saturday brings. That's not really Jack's style though. I don't think he goes in for naming dummy teams. Jack wouldn't be into making 3/4 changes before throw in, nearly always guaranteed to be same as match programme. Whilst Adrian into number 12 is an improvement I would have preferred to see Ruairi Murphy given a chance at 10. He's a fella I really like and has done reasonably well in his 1st intercounty year when given the chance.
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Post by pillar on Jun 1, 2023 21:46:13 GMT
Don't think the squad has the depth to be making wholesale changes..we have to find a way of getting the optimum out of the players we have..Its not a multiple All Ireland winning panel at the moment.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jun 1, 2023 21:56:27 GMT
Don't think the squad has the depth to be making wholesale changes..we have to find a way of getting the optimum out of the players we have..Its not a multiple All Ireland winning panel at the moment. Unfortunately, I'm inclined to agree.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Jun 1, 2023 22:00:55 GMT
When I look at that team I am struck by how weak that bench is. Stephen O'Brien is the only one I would class as a game changer and he is only finding his form. Tony Brosnan maybe but, I I think we can agree the jury is out.
Our midfield cover is Barry Dan who at best is unproven at this level. Defensive cover is an inexperienced Dylan Casey who's confidence must be ropey after the mayo game. Michael Burns can be hit or miss when he comes on an isn't really a scorer.
If our first 15 don't get the job done I would really fear for us. Also in all likely hood we will be playing 3 games in three weeks and if we make the quarters it will be 4 in four weeks. Unless some lads in the squad put their hands up in the next week or two I would fear for a threadbare squad meeting a rested Galway or their ilk in Croke Park
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 1, 2023 22:05:49 GMT
When I look at that team I am struck by how weak that bench is. Stephen O'Brien is the only one I would class as a game changer and he is only finding his form. Tony Brosnan maybe but, I I think we can agree the jury is out. Our midfield cover is Barry Dan who at best is unproven at this level. Defensive cover is an inexperienced Dylan Casey who's confidence must be ropey after the mayo game. Michael Burns can be hit or miss when he comes on an isn't really a scorer. If our first 15 don't get the job done I would really fear for us. Also in all likely hood we will be playing 3 games in three weeks and if we make the quarters it will be 4 in four weeks. Unless some lads in the squad put their hands up in the next week or two I would fear for a threadbare squad meeting a rested Galway or their ilk in Croke Park I'll just hand over my log on details and let you post on my behalf. Agree with every word of that. You'd only hope, OBeaghlaoich, K Spillane and Breen will give us something off the bench in later games.
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Post by peanuts on Jun 1, 2023 22:29:31 GMT
When I look at that team I am struck by how weak that bench is. Stephen O'Brien is the only one I would class as a game changer and he is only finding his form. Tony Brosnan maybe but, I I think we can agree the jury is out. Our midfield cover is Barry Dan who at best is unproven at this level. Defensive cover is an inexperienced Dylan Casey who's confidence must be ropey after the mayo game. Michael Burns can be hit or miss when he comes on an isn't really a scorer. If our first 15 don't get the job done I would really fear for us. Also in all likely hood we will be playing 3 games in three weeks and if we make the quarters it will be 4 in four weeks. Unless some lads in the squad put their hands up in the next week or two I would fear for a threadbare squad meeting a rested Galway or their ilk in Croke Park 3 games in 3 weeks if we get to the 1/4 final but your point still stands.
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Post by piskin on Jun 1, 2023 22:52:12 GMT
Got a bad feeling for saturdays game, weak links in P Murphy & D Moynihan. Happy with A Spillane coming in to add some steel, I can see Jacks side in giving J Barry & D o Connor another chance but if it is not working again then Jack needs to act more quickly than he did in the Mayo game. This is a must win game for morale at least.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jun 1, 2023 22:52:54 GMT
A non game related post, Traveling down hopefully by train on Sat with my daughter for her first game. Can you recommend anywhere for food after the game before we jump on the train back to the North East ? She's only 5 so pizza for example is fine.. any tips for a solo dad would be great! I just love this, I have great memories of match days with my father but I was a lot more than 5 before I got to go. Hope she has a great day. Far from pizzas we were reared - ah havin' the crack, I know that gal will have a day she will rekindle one day! I'll tell ye a good one sometime of a bit of fodder I had in Barrys Hotel when I was a day or two more than 5 too Jackie!
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Jun 2, 2023 0:07:33 GMT
When I look at that team I am struck by how weak that bench is. Stephen O'Brien is the only one I would class as a game changer and he is only finding his form. Tony Brosnan maybe but, I I think we can agree the jury is out. Our midfield cover is Barry Dan who at best is unproven at this level. Defensive cover is an inexperienced Dylan Casey who's confidence must be ropey after the mayo game. Michael Burns can be hit or miss when he comes on an isn't really a scorer. If our first 15 don't get the job done I would really fear for us. Also in all likely hood we will be playing 3 games in three weeks and if we make the quarters it will be 4 in four weeks. Unless some lads in the squad put their hands up in the next week or two I would fear for a threadbare squad meeting a rested Galway or their ilk in Croke Park 3 games in 3 weeks if we get to the 1/4 final but your point still stands. Your right. I didn't realise there was a 2 week gap between games 2 - 3 in the group. You would hope we beat cork and put the Louth game to bed early and rest some players. If we finish second who are our likely opponents in Killarney? I know it's crystal ball gazing to so who we think will finish 3rd in a group if we finish second. Armagh / Tyrone, Clare / Donegal and Kildare / Roscommon are the options really I suppose.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Jun 2, 2023 0:38:37 GMT
When has paul murphy ever been exposed? Has been one of our most consistent players for the last ten years not sure where this narrative has come from. When left 1 on 1 with Con Callaghan in the league in 2021. I agree he's been excellent overall but you have to look at the size of our middle 8. Edit It must be said it was his bravey to play a difficult pass that to DC last year that won us the game against Dublin. 1 on 1 with Con O Callaghan in his prime Jeez is that it ? I doubt there’s any defender in the championship that could have dealt with Con in his prime and he’s still going well I think Paul Murphy is a very genuine player I wish we had a few more like him I think we ll have to fasten the seat belts for this game could be a rough trip Saturday s game lineup was copperfastened Sometime around three months ago when We had Barry Dan totally outplaying his partner yet still getting The curly finger in order to restore the Na Gael partnership Of Barry and O Connor I hope it all works out on Saturday but I cannot see that partnership getting the job done on all recent and not so recent evidence David cannot keep bailing us out In the national rankings our 8 and 9 would not make the first 10 not even close No way trying to be cynical but come on now we can do better
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Post by orangerhyme on Jun 2, 2023 7:55:21 GMT
I agree about Paul Murphy.
He's been our most consistent player since 2014. Very tidy on the ball also.
I thought he was our best player when we lost to Tyrone.
Barry Dan will make an appearance from the bench and it's up to him to nail down a position. Might start Vs Louth.
We should win this by a decent score anyway.
I'd be worried about us meeting the heavyweights later on in the summer.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 2, 2023 8:08:33 GMT
When left 1 on 1 with Con Callaghan in the league in 2021. I agree he's been excellent overall but you have to look at the size of our middle 8. Edit It must be said it was his bravey to play a difficult pass that to DC last year that won us the game against Dublin. 1 on 1 with Con O Callaghan in his prime Jeez is that it ? I doubt there’s any defender in the championship that could have dealt with Con in his prime and he’s still going well I think Paul Murphy is a very genuine player I wish we had a few more like him I think we ll have to fasten the seat belts for this game could be a rough trip Saturday s game lineup was copperfastened Sometime around three months ago when We had Barry Dan totally outplaying his partner yet still getting The curly finger in order to restore the Na Gael partnership Of Barry and O Connor I hope it all works out on Saturday but I cannot see that partnership getting the job done on all recent and not so recent evidence David cannot keep bailing us out In the national rankings our 8 and 9 would not make the first 10 not even close No way trying to be cynical but come on now we can do better I don't disagree regarding Con but that's the example that's generally used. I think he played 6 against Tyrone aswell if I'm not mistaken and that wasn't a great day. I think he's an excellent player but it's wing back and not corner back.
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Post by orangerhyme on Jun 2, 2023 8:27:54 GMT
He was our best player Vs Tyrone
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Post by horsebox77 on Jun 2, 2023 8:29:44 GMT
I suppose, in reality, in the current game, most if nearly all teams will play or deploy both their wing forwards behind the midfield line in general play, in that regard both Murphy and White will be holding the line as opposed to man to man, my concerns are the height disadvantage as Cork have both Brian O’Driscoll and Ruairi Deane in their half forward line and both would have a height advantage. I know an earlier poster queried when was this ever a factor, but in my opinion, its only a matter of time before this is exposed, in particular in a sector where another wing man is of similar stature, and we are already taking in water in the midfield area.
I think too that Cork will deploy Powter on the forty tomorrow directly on Tadgh as they know the Templenoe man will sit deep and not tail, it’s therefore, imperative, that both Adrian and Dara bottle the centre as we were cruelly exposed against Mayo through the centre and could have shipped three or four if not for the diligence of Shane Ryan.
Our high press was seriously exposed last day out, tmw will be a hot energy sapping day in Cork, tracking and getting the position right or on the front foot is where the improvement is most required.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 2, 2023 8:36:08 GMT
He was our best player Vs Tyrone What game were you watching ? David Clifford was our best player v Tyrone. What did we concede that day? No back covered themselves that day.
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