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Post by givehimaball on Jul 1, 2023 21:03:18 GMT
By my calculations the odds of the Kerry's opponents in the semi-finals are
Monaghan 45.83% Derry 25% Dublin 12.5% Cork 8.33% Mayo 8.33%
This is assuming all four possible outcomes tomorrow are equal odds.
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Post by givehimaball on Jul 1, 2023 21:15:58 GMT
If Derry and Dublin win => Monaghan v Derry is the only possible repeat fixture. The four semi-finalists are Kerry, Monaghan, Derry, Dublin Kerry v Derry (with Dublin v Monaghan) and Kerry v Monaghan (with Dublin v Derry) are the two options. Kerry can't play Dublin as this would mean a Monaghan v Derry rematch.
If Derry and Mayo win => Monaghan v Derry and Kerry v Mayo are the two possible repeat fixtures. The four semi-finalists are Kerry, Monaghan, Derry, Mayo Kerry v Derry (with Mayo v Monaghan) and Kerry v Monaghan (with Mayo v Derry) are the two options. Kerry can't play Mayo as this would mean a Monaghan v Derry draw both of which are rematches.
If Cork and Dublin win => Kerry v Cork is the only possible repeat fixture. The four semi-finalists are Kerry, Monaghan, Cork, Dublin Kerry v Monaghan (with Dublin v Cork) and Kerry v Dublin (with Cork v Derry) are the two options. Kerry can't play Cork as this would be a rematch which means Monaghan v Dublin can't happen.
If Cork and Mayo win => Kerry v Cork, Kerry v Mayo and Cork v Mayo are the possible repeat fixtures. The four semi-finalists are Kerry, Monaghan, Cork, Mayo This means a repear pairing can't be avoided so a standard open draw will take place. Kerry v Cork (with Monaghan v Mayo) and Kerry v Mayo (with Cork v Monaghan) and Kerry v Monaghan (with Mayo v Cork) are the three options.
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Post by hurlingman on Jul 2, 2023 10:10:47 GMT
I wonder what will happen with McGeeney now. He's been involved with intercounty management for about 15 years now and personally I've never understood the hype around him. He's never really done anything of note and I think he's holding them back.
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Post by Jo90 on Jul 2, 2023 12:00:28 GMT
I guess we should be hoping for Mayo and Cork to win today. Would fancy our chances in any semi or final with Mayo, Monaghan or Cork. Although after yesterday we won't fear anyone anyway.
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Post by southward on Jul 2, 2023 13:15:14 GMT
Jesus, Cork/Derry is misery. Can't watch this any more. Derry are an abomination.
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Post by exiled on Jul 2, 2023 14:13:09 GMT
Jesus, Cork/Derry is misery. Can't watch this any more. Derry are an abomination. Abomination or not they will be difficult opponents for anyone.
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Post by gaelicden on Jul 2, 2023 14:31:55 GMT
Well it's Derry or Monaghan for us in the hat at around 6pm this evening.
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Post by pipsqueak01 on Jul 2, 2023 15:41:33 GMT
Jesus, Cork/Derry is misery. Can't watch this any more. Derry are an abomination. Abomination or not they will be difficult opponents for anyone. I donβt think they will be. Frustrating to play but end of the road for them now that they canβt get Monaghan
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Post by gaelicden on Jul 2, 2023 16:02:33 GMT
Dublin making their move, 1 point up to 7 points in 5 minutes. The bookies odds of a Kerry Dublin final certainly shortening.
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Post by exiled on Jul 2, 2023 16:06:42 GMT
Dublin making their move, 1 point up to 7 points in 5 minutes. The bookies odds of a Kerry Dublin final certainly shortening. They haven't gone away yet. Hopefully they'll get Derry in the semi. That will be a totally different test for them.
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Post by glengael on Jul 2, 2023 16:29:29 GMT
Watching this match, Weeshie's phrase about a knife through butter comes to mind. Mayo being cut open time & again.
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Post by thehermit on Jul 2, 2023 16:30:39 GMT
Ole ole-in every touch of the ball now, just like the Meath supporters of old. Hopefully karma will be as kind π
Mayo being Mayo, architects of so much of their own downfall. Second Dublin goal especially. Honestly how many times did they drop the ball today.
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Post by exiled on Jul 2, 2023 16:39:45 GMT
After watching all the games this weekend I think that the system in use this year will be kept for another couple of years. The importance of winning your group has really been shown this weekend. It's not just playing 2 weeks in row but 3.It asked a lot of amateur players. The only team to get through playing 3 weeks in a row was Monaghan but their game was played at pedestrian pace.
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Post by eternalhope on Jul 2, 2023 16:51:00 GMT
Dublin making their move, 1 point up to 7 points in 5 minutes. The bookies odds of a Kerry Dublin final certainly shortening. They haven't gone away yet. Hopefully they'll get Derry in the semi. That will be a totally different test for them. How much of a test would it be for them? They demolished them in the league final.
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Post by kot on Jul 2, 2023 16:52:29 GMT
Jeez, some blow out. Mayoβs season seems to have peaked in Killarney.
Eerily familiar that Dublin onslaughtβ¦. And mayo capitulation. Hopefully 2019 similarities end there.
Hard to know who we would be better off with in the semi. Be a different challenge either way.
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Post by john4 on Jul 2, 2023 16:53:21 GMT
Cork done us a huge favour in beating Mayo. That saved us back to back weekends of football which could have put our semifinal place in jeopardy.
We need to be more careful to make sure we top our group if this format is kept going forward
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Post by taggert on Jul 2, 2023 16:55:54 GMT
After watching all the games this weekend I think that the system in use this year will be kept for another couple of years. The importance of winning your group has really been shown this weekend. It's not just playing 2 weeks in row but 3.It asked a lot of amateur players. The only team to get through playing 3 weeks in a row was Monaghan but their game was played at pedestrian pace. And there were several on here who felt an extra game last weekend was preferable! The system will be tweaked next year to give a weeks break to those coming through the prelim round into the QF. Armagh would have beaten Monaghan and completed a clean sweep of prelim winner exits with almost any other manager than Geezer who has taken fear of losing to extraordinary levels.....
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Post by gaelicden on Jul 2, 2023 16:59:07 GMT
It's Derry
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Post by exiled on Jul 2, 2023 19:16:19 GMT
They haven't gone away yet. Hopefully they'll get Derry in the semi. That will be a totally different test for them. How much of a test would it be for them? They demolished them in the league final. And we demolished Tyrone in the league but what happened later
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 5, 2023 12:56:23 GMT
An awful lot of silly conversations about Dublin v Kerry on the radio and on fan pages.
Really silly stuff.
Glad it's not be indulged here.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 6, 2023 7:15:39 GMT
An awful lot of silly conversations about Dublin v Kerry on the radio and on fan pages. Really silly stuff. Glad it's not be indulged here. Give us a hint Well on the Dubs page their talking about potential match ups π€£ Some Dubs are trying to stop them infairness πππ
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Post by dc84 on Jul 6, 2023 7:28:57 GMT
Hard to blame the dubs really would anyone seriously give monaghan a chance ? On a good day they might kick 15 or 16 points hard to see them keeping dublin below that target
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 6, 2023 7:42:56 GMT
Hard to blame the dubs really would anyone seriously give monaghan a chance ? On a good day they might kick 15 or 16 points hard to see them keeping dublin below that target No Dublin will hammer them. Hard to believe Monaghan are there ahead of Galway.
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Post by sullyschoice on Jul 6, 2023 9:45:12 GMT
Armagh π€ England: Losing Penalty Shootouts I'd swear Armagh are cursed at this stage π€£ Looks like it. 3 big games losing on *. You d have to feel for them. So unlucky. Commiserations to our great poster Ardmhaca. I feel your pain. Maybe if they subbed their goalkeeper for an actual goalkeeper they might have a better record in shoot-outs
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 6, 2023 10:11:07 GMT
Well on the Dubs page their talking about potential match ups π€£ Some Dubs are trying to stop them infairness πππ OK. Tbh I don't give Monaghan any hope. Ironically I would have given Armagh a chance. Dubs like is seem to have the mojo back and James Mccarthy is playing like a young fella. No i don't give them a hope either, Strangely Dublin could find themselves in an All Ireland without having any serious questions asked. McCarthy was excellent on Sunday but when a young lad like Tommy Conroy can't catch a 33 year old in a sprint you have to ask questions.
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Post by jerryewe on Jul 6, 2023 13:24:20 GMT
OK. Tbh I don't give Monaghan any hope. Ironically I would have given Armagh a chance. Dubs like is seem to have the mojo back and James Mccarthy is playing like a young fella. No i don't give them a hope either, Strangely Dublin could find themselves in an All Ireland without having any serious questions asked. McCarthy was excellent on Sunday but when a young lad like Tommy Conroy can't catch a 33 year old in a sprint you have to ask questions. What questions?
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 6, 2023 13:50:27 GMT
No i don't give them a hope either, Strangely Dublin could find themselves in an All Ireland without having any serious questions asked. McCarthy was excellent on Sunday but when a young lad like Tommy Conroy can't catch a 33 year old in a sprint you have to ask questions. What questions? How a 33 or 34 year old can beat a young lad in a race well into the 2nd half...
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 6, 2023 14:19:52 GMT
How a 33 or 34 year old can beat a young lad in a race well into the 2nd half... Mccarthy is probably the greatest athlete to play the game thats how Yeah he absolutely is but he not superman.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 6, 2023 14:31:06 GMT
Yeah he absolutely is but he not superman. What are you getting at? I wasn't referring to asking questions of McCarthy the greatest Dublin player of all time. I'm referring to the Mayo players who where ten plus years younger that couldn't catch him in a foot race. Nothing but respect for McCarthy.
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Post by dc84 on Jul 6, 2023 14:46:33 GMT
Desire is probably one question to be asked!
2nd its not a great sample size one run ie had conroy just burst up the field a few times and was gassed how many runs in last 5 minutes had both made etc etc. Mccarthy is an athletic freak in fairness but some day fairly soon he will wilt as everyone does time waits for no man.
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