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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 21, 2023 13:29:48 GMT
I sat down to re-watch the match last night, it didn't get any better. I won't rehash other's comments but I feel that there are a few lads who may have used their last chance to shine on Sat. Shane Ryan is our No 1 and no mistake. I felt Dara Moynihan gave a good account of himself, Stefan needs more game time. I've seen Paddy Tally at matches but no sign of Tony Griffin, has he left the set up? Pat Spillane made the comment after the All Ireland final that Killian was naturally talented but that Adrian needed to work hard to find improvements in himself. I've seen this before and the difference doesn't really become apparent until senior level. Killian has been given so many chances to come in and make a difference and unfortunately it's just not happening for him, whereas Adrian will burst the gut with every opportunity given. And at senior Intercounty, battling qualities are vital. This weeks examiner podcast was good and Maurice Brosnan made a good point, A few of those Kerry lads are ob the scene a while and they should be looking over their shoulders now. They got 3 games and failed to perform. Dara Roche and Donal OSullivan shouldnt pay the price for others who are around longer. He also mentioned Barry OMahony and how he turned down the hurlers yet can't make our bench.
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Post by blacksheep21 on Feb 21, 2023 13:34:58 GMT
Hopefully there are no politics in the team selection the next day.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 21, 2023 15:50:32 GMT
Politics - ah jazus give us a break.
Hey, Rochford is a dark horse - the silent killer Say night? He'll have picked up on a lot of Donie Buckley stuff, i.e. they say teachers often learn more than students! Maybe himself and Corporal Private McStay have really clicked and we could be in for a great year here.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 21, 2023 17:45:39 GMT
Politics - ah jazus give us a break. Hey, Rochford is a dark horse - the silent killer Say night? He'll have picked up on a lot of Donie Buckley stuff, i.e. they say teachers often learn more than students! Maybe himself and Corporal Private McStay have really clicked and we could be in for a great year here. Buckley is in there with them, It was Buckley who took the Mayo warm up.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 21, 2023 20:07:14 GMT
Politics - ah jazus give us a break. Hey, Rochford is a dark horse - the silent killer Say night? He'll have picked up on a lot of Donie Buckley stuff, i.e. they say teachers often learn more than students! Maybe himself and Corporal Private McStay have really clicked and we could be in for a great year here. Buckley is in there with them, It was Buckley who took the Mayo warm up. Even more formidable, they'd have beaten any team Sat night!
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Post by colinsworth1 on Feb 21, 2023 22:34:01 GMT
I’d start Okunbar next night and get the ball quicker to the FF line Roche and O Sullivan did not stand a chance With 4 or 5 versus 2 on Sunday It was the Mayo defensive system that beat them and tactically we looked bankrupt The bad beating should clear away some of the fog The one switch we made worked well Okunbar to midfield and Tom Dan to FF like it or not it did bear fruit. A come back may have been a possibility but when Killian dropped that ball over his head that was game over for me The best positive I got from the game was Dylan Casey have we found a new player ? Aidan O Shea has been rebooted and reprogrammed he’s going to be a force to be reckoned with this year he’s in fabulous form And caused us all kinds of problems in his new Role I do believe he tried to head butt Donal Down in a reckless manner and should have been censured for it Still capable of anything but nonetheless . If Casey can curb him then great he’s one of a rare breed
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Post by exiled on Feb 23, 2023 22:09:03 GMT
Buckley is in there with them, It was Buckley who took the Mayo warm up. Even more formidable, they'd have beaten any team Sat night! The word here is that Aidan is getting 1to 1 from Donie and McHale and is thriving from it.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 24, 2023 11:02:55 GMT
Even more formidable, they'd have beaten any team Sat night! The word here is that Aidan is getting 1to 1 from Donie and McHale and is thriving from it. Any inside on Rochford? While his actual role with Donegal was a secret I have my doubts as to how well it worked but of course with closed doors and media training we will never know and which is shameful, though probably necessary? I suppose nobody could begrudge them if they finally make it, though I am not sure if it was at our expense. I often wonder are we all in the bubble with them - has there ever been such a phenomenon in any other walk of life, i.e. a perennial bridesmaid, twice a bridesmaid never a bride - jazus how many have they ushered up them steps in is it 60 years? It would take GAA to a new level if they got over the line and not least because whatever anyone says, their culture and style of play always entertains - those Limerick games were the best, we are so privileged to have been there let alone come out on top and then the individual performances, AO'M having to be lifted off 'on his shield' - Gardai vs Gardai! Ah they are an oksih gang, as I often say, a pint is so much tastier with a Mayo man in the company - I have known 'em down the years and the place is full of John Bs, even the same style of raconteur - while of course truth seldom gets in the way of a good one they'd hang themselves just to trigger a belly aching laugh - the thing is who will have the last laugh, well there will never be a last one with this annual renewal of property title that is Gaelic games. Surely 100% of other supporters would have Mayo as their 2nd choice to lift Sam, that is after they own team of course? I get a wee fit of the giggles at the thought of it.
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Post by horsebox77 on Feb 24, 2023 11:48:06 GMT
Can't see it Bally, I think every year they have a game either league or championship where they shoot the lights but invariably, it's just another false dawn.
McStay, probably should have got the gig earlier, when certain players were in their prime, but politics, his choice of selectors and is refusal to bend, probably cost them both.
Time will tell obviously, he appears to have the cohort of fans and players behind him and he is not easily bullied to deviating form his own script, which is in his favour.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 24, 2023 14:33:24 GMT
Can't see it Bally, I think every year they have a game either league or championship where they shoot the lights but invariably, it's just another false dawn. McStay, probably should have got the gig earlier, when certain players were in their prime, but politics, his choice of selectors and is refusal to bend, probably cost them both. Time will tell obviously, he appears to have the cohort of fans and players behind him and he is not easily bullied to deviating form his own script, which is in his favour. Ah jazus maybe I'm only winding myself up, but has the likes of it ever been known in anything, even outside sport? And of the alleged curse, it proved true with was it Biddy Early and Clare. Of course we don't know if it is causation or coincidence but if it is the latter then it is a rare coincidence, moreover when you look at the circumstances, e.g. 2/3 own goals in '16 AI final, and then all the other close shaves - they must be suckers for punishment, agony; I think it only makes 'em more resilient as they keep coming out in droves, even onto the field of play that evening in Limerick. Where would you get it? I'd say that last game v Galway is up there with best, two class rural teams going at each other, a Mayo woman tells me 'twas better than the best clash of tiutans she ever saw outside the dance hall in Crossmolina, now that's saying something and I'd know, I witnessed a few such encounters in my day, as a spectator of course!
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Post by wildatlanticway on Feb 25, 2023 0:57:12 GMT
Ballyfireside, I'm a mayo fan, please don't distract from the final score by mocking mayo. Really poor form. Analyse the game on its merits.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 25, 2023 10:25:10 GMT
Ballyfireside, I'm a mayo fan, please don't distract from the final score by mocking mayo. Really poor form. Analyse the game on its merits. Ah you're at it and in your 1st post, didn't know there was soft people in Mayo ... I was complimenting youse, in fact I was disappointed there was any black cards as there was no dirt whatsoever, just good plain old contact sport stuff. BTW which game are you referring to, Mayo's encounters with Tribes and us were two of the bets games I've ever seen, and as was our Limerick encounters - can't understand how you misunderstood me, just mixing it with a bit of crack and quoting a Mayo person to-boot! Good luck v Red Hands and please deliver another cracker, and if we don't win Sam I hope ye do, it would change GAA forever - we might even make a dance in Crossmolina, would we escape with our lives!
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Post by sullyschoice on Feb 25, 2023 12:19:01 GMT
Ballyfireside, I'm a mayo fan, please don't distract from the final score by mocking mayo. Really poor form. Analyse the game on its merits. I think you are looking to be offended where no offence exists.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 25, 2023 12:59:47 GMT
Dare I say I still think Aidan O'Shea is a bit lazy. He hang around the goalmouth all game but was constantly pushing and dragging with his marker. Dare I say a bit like we used to do with Donaghy. Aidan isn't the most natural footballer in my opinion, but has some skills that do well on the football pitch. He's quite a big guy and muscular and he can win a ball. Even during the warm up though Aidan was the one player not running and just walking around. As the season goes on backs will be better conditioned and as pitches dry up he'll have to do more running to stay with defenders going forward. Carr and O'Donoghue are great players, but I still think that when push comes to shove in the championship Mayo will be found wanting in the scoring department.
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Post by Jo90 on Feb 27, 2023 1:07:49 GMT
Dare I say I still think Aidan O'Shea is a bit lazy. He hang around the goalmouth all game but was constantly pushing and dragging with his marker. Dare I say a bit like we used to do with Donaghy. Aidan isn't the most natural footballer in my opinion, but has some skills that do well on the football pitch. He's quite a big guy and muscular and he can win a ball. Even during the warm up though Aidan was the one player not running and just walking around. As the season goes on backs will be better conditioned and as pitches dry up he'll have to do more running to stay with defenders going forward. Carr and O'Donoghue are great players, but I still think that when push comes to shove in the championship Mayo will be found wanting in the scoring department. Every team bar a few Ulster teams will have a couple of players who won't have to help out defending, so Aidan can be that for Mayo for at least some of the game. He could be targeted for quick kickouts though, unless he can swap out to be in the middle for long ones.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 27, 2023 20:54:42 GMT
Dare I say I still think Aidan O'Shea is a bit lazy. He hang around the goalmouth all game but was constantly pushing and dragging with his marker. Dare I say a bit like we used to do with Donaghy. Aidan isn't the most natural footballer in my opinion, but has some skills that do well on the football pitch. He's quite a big guy and muscular and he can win a ball. Even during the warm up though Aidan was the one player not running and just walking around. As the season goes on backs will be better conditioned and as pitches dry up he'll have to do more running to stay with defenders going forward. Carr and O'Donoghue are great players, but I still think that when push comes to shove in the championship Mayo will be found wanting in the scoring department. Every team bar a few Ulster teams will have a couple of players who won't have to help out defending, so Aidan can be that for Mayo for at least some of the game. He could be targeted for quick kickouts though, unless he can swap out to be in the middle for long ones. Didn't Aidan O'Shea play basketball as well? I think McStay has correctly identified that O'Shea is not a midfielder and that Ruane and O'Connor are the midfield he can trust. Aidan is used more like Donaghy used to be, a target man to win the high ball in and someone who sets up plays. Even if he doesn't see much ball, his bulk and threat near goal means teams often mark or double mark him, or put a sweeper in front of him like Kerry did.By dragging his markers and/or the sweeper all around he c creates room for others. Mayo used the same tac tic against Tyrone and it meant Aidan was able to set up two goals. Just like Gooch and O'Donoghue used to feed of Star, Mayo are doing the same now. I do think Mayo are way ahead in training though and I'd expect them to beat Roscommon, which means Mayo will be in the league final almost surely. I'm not sure if they can keep up that tempo for another few months. Mayo peaking too early? Wouldn't be the first time.
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