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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 10, 2023 21:20:45 GMT
To borrow the title of Michael Jordans documentary. This is Dublins Last Dance for a few years. McCarthy, Fitzsimons and Rock and possibly more will probably finish this year. This is why they are pushing so hard this year. We will see but i think they are a dangerous animal. True and they say history has a habit of repeating itself. When the great Kerry team fell in 82 they came back for the "last dance" in 84 after 2 years without Sam. Dubs were favourites and Kerry won and went onto win 3 in a row again. Now Dubs gave gone 2 years without Sam and Kerry favourites but as you say they a dangerous animal. I have this vivid memory of Tomas OSé a warrior in a Kerry jersey chasing Diarmuid Connolly in 2013 final SF. You could see in the 2nd half his race was run and time had caught up with him. Time will tell if that happens any of the Dublin players but time catches us all. Unfortunately.
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Post by mafi97 on Jan 10, 2023 22:29:24 GMT
Agree that Dublin will give it one last go all aces may be back in the pack, Mannion, McCaffery etc but plying their trade in div 2 and being in a non-competitive province, they may be undercooked come knockout ball. Their biggest ace is not on the playing field in my opinion, but in Pat Gilroy on the sideline. His addition cannot be underestimated. He started the blue wave, Gavin may have roofed the house, but Gilroy set the corner stones. I agree completely. For me, Gilroy's return changes everything. We don't know if James McCarthy can avoid injury and we don't know if Mannion and McCaffrey can return to their old standards - we do know that Gilroy will maximise every last drop of ability left in that Dublin squad. I am not so sure about some of the players - but Gilroy is very shrewd and I don't think he would take the role if he didn't feel that the squad still had enough left to pull in another title. Be afraid. I am.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jan 10, 2023 22:32:39 GMT
I think it’s an overstatement to say it’s Dublin’s last dance. McCarthy (although he might still have a few years in him) and Rock are coming to an end and both will be big losses but Kilkenny, O’Callaghan, Fenton, Howard, Small etc. are still relatively young. McCaffrey and Mannion will be big additions and some of their young players who haven’t made the breakthrough yet look promising. Dublin have definitely dropped a couple of levels since 2019 but I would still probably expect them to go into each of the next couple of years along with ourselves as favourites. Do people expect them to drop below the likes of Galway, Armagh and Tyrone?
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 10, 2023 22:46:23 GMT
I think it’s an overstatement to say it’s Dublin’s last dance. McCarthy (although he might still have a few years in him) and Rock are coming to an end and both will be big losses but Kilkenny, O’Callaghan, Fenton, Howard, Small etc. are still relatively young. McCaffrey and Mannion will be big additions and some of their young players who haven’t made the breakthrough yet look promising. Dublin have definitely dropped a couple of levels since 2019 but I would still probably expect them to go into each of the next couple of years along with ourselves as favourites. Do people expect them to drop below the likes of Galway, Armagh and Tyrone? I think this current Dublin team it is their last dance. At the top level 10 to 13 years is probably the max for most lads. Dublin will very likely lose Mccarthy, Fitzsimons and Rock next year. Rock should have really gone this year. A lot of others will have a lot of miles. Mannion and McCaffery who knows if it's just a 12 month comeback but McCaffery is a strange one as he didn't even play for Clontarf last year. Who knows what the year will bring but there is many challenges. Tyrone for example have one of the best potential FF lines in McCurry, McShane and Canavan.
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Post by Jo90 on Jan 10, 2023 22:46:46 GMT
Agree that Dublin will give it one last go all aces may be back in the pack, Mannion, McCaffery etc but plying their trade in div 2 and being in a non-competitive province, they may be undercooked come knockout ball. Their biggest ace is not on the playing field in my opinion, but in Pat Gilroy on the sideline. His addition cannot be underestimated. He started the blue wave, Gavin may have roofed the house, but Gilroy set the corner stones. No team will be undercooked with the new round robin system. Was Gilroy that good? His startled earwigs lost by 17 pts to Kerry in 2009, threw away a semifinal in 2010, ok won in 2011 but as much thrown away by Kerry as won by Dublin, bowed out limply to Mayo in 2012.
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