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Post by buck02 on Jul 6, 2019 21:35:37 GMT
It's on Sunday of course, my sky planner only goes to Saturday and I thought it was that day I'd be fearful of mayo. Theyve bullied us before and are far more experienced. Our porous defence wories me if mayo run at us. We cant let Aidan O Se run the show. If we break even at midfield we should have the better forwards buts a game I fear. Mayo with momentum are hard to stop, this is a defining moment for this kerry team. After the game tonight Sky advertised that they are showing the Tyrone v Roscommon game on Saturday and Donegal v Clare or Meath on Sunday. Rte will show the other two games.
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Post by taibhse on Jul 6, 2019 21:35:44 GMT
Will seats be allocated in the stand do you think or will it be unreserved seating? Hopefully Kerry supporters will come out in big numbers and support this young Kerry team. I am afraid Kerry will be wearing the gold jerseys as the rule is both counties change when there is a clash of colours. No, first come first served. I understand that there will be some pre-match entertainment. I believe you are right on the jersey rule - both sides change.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 6, 2019 21:44:01 GMT
Kerry are surprisingly hot favourites, 15/8 on, Mayo 15/8 against, Draw 15/2 Kerry's record in Killarney is very good. Mayo are on their last legs and although a great side in their own right they best a Galway side I an ashamed Kerry lost to last year because they are gack
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Post by athletics on Jul 6, 2019 21:46:52 GMT
Unreserved seating is a bit unfair for season ticket holders? We will have to be there very early!
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 6, 2019 21:55:25 GMT
I'm tipping Kerry to win this one in a high octane game by 3-5 points.
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Post by dc84 on Jul 6, 2019 22:03:02 GMT
Fitness will 100pc be a factor here mayo visibly tired towards the end of both halves if it wasn't for that terrible goal Galway conceded things could have been very different.
Ref will be interesting
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Post by clarinman on Jul 6, 2019 22:07:39 GMT
Mayo were extremely cynical, they fouled Galway far out the field several times. This stopped numerous Galway attacks, there was several black card instances. We need our pundits to highlight this, hopefully Tomás will raise it on the Sunday Game. I thought Aiden O'Shea was hugely influential, I'm wondering could Jack do a man marking job like he did to Fenton in Tralee, Aidan O'Sheas man scored 4 points from play in the first half. Rather than looking at stopping him, we should look to attack him. That is what Dublin have always done.
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Post by sullyschoice on Jul 6, 2019 22:09:48 GMT
Blood pressure tablets might be required. I will most likely be with some mayo lads
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Jul 6, 2019 22:15:28 GMT
Was at the match tonight. As always would be concerned but Mayo are very beatable. I know people won't agree but I don't think there is much football in Aidan O'Se. Match him physically and your halfway there. Their full back line are very ropey.
Think Keith Higgins is on his last legs. Push up on the kick outs and mark zonally. Clarke tents to just drive them when in doubt. Safety first. We need to win those 50/50 on the ground or in the air.
Mayo half forward line were poor tonight defense wise. Couldn't seem to live with Galway's half backs when they carried st pace. Matchups will need to be spot on.
Morely on Cohen. Gavin Crowley on COC. Tom on McLaughlin. Sherwood on Carr.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jul 6, 2019 22:23:53 GMT
I would be fully confident if it wasnt for the midfield question. Unlike the league final we will have someone to match up to Aidan O'Shea physically in David Moran. Jack Barry wasn't strong or aggressive enough in the league final which meant Aidan O'Shea could do as he wished. We will need Moran to horse into him and O'Shea will suit Moran as well as he is not fast. Vaughan will be Mayo's other midfielder in the absence of Ruane and Diarmuid O'Connor. Do we stick with Jack Barry here even with his obvious flaws and limitations or do we stick Gavin Crowley in here who I think is a better option than White or Sherwood who have also been mentioned for this role. Adrian Spillane is another option, I find it very hard to know how good he is and what his main strengths are. It's a strange one. I think we will win if we can cope with Mayo's physicality in the middle 8 as we have better forwards. To do this I would look at making up to 3 personnel changes. I think we should look at the possibilities of Gavin Crowley,Gavin O’Brien and Mikey Geaney coming in for Gavin White, Diarmuid O’Connor and Dara Moynihan. These changes will help make us physically stronger as a team. Even 1 or 2 of these changes would help. I suppose you have to be careful not to pick just our physically strongest team but our best team with physical strength in mind.
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Post by Hicser on Jul 6, 2019 23:09:16 GMT
Mayo were extremely cynical, they fouled Galway far out the field several times. This stopped numerous Galway attacks, there was several black card instances. We need our pundits to highlight this, hopefully Tomás will raise it on the Sunday Game. I thought Aiden O'Shea was hugely influential,[\b] I'm wondering could Jack do a man marking job like he did to Fenton in Tralee, Aidan O'Sheas man scored 4 points from play in the first half. Rather than looking at stopping him, we should look to attack him. That is what Dublin have always done. I think Dublin keep the ball away from him, also I think he bottles it when he gets to AF day,
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 6, 2019 23:26:35 GMT
Darren Coen and James Carr are a big addition up front this year
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Post by wayupnorth on Jul 7, 2019 7:48:47 GMT
We’d better not be giving away any soft goals next Sunday. That and an inability to kick a penalty was what made the difference yesterday. If we play to our strengths we will get over the line. I’m glad it’s Mayo because we will know how good we really are.
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 7, 2019 8:02:59 GMT
Mayo will hold no fears in coming to Killarney - they are back in championship mode and are battle hardened from recent games, their explosive start proof of their match sharpness in contrast to Galway's recent inactivity. This would be a worry from a Kerry view point too as it can take a while to get to championship pace.
The recent league final will have little bearing on the latest episode other than to highlight the physicality required at this level - hopefully we will have learned from that day. The cynicism of Mayo as recently highlighted by Fitzmaurice was much in evidence last night as they persistently fouled Galway as they ( Galway) set up their attacks - no action from a timid ref who allowed Mayo dictate the agenda.
We will need to have a defined defensive structure - do we go man to man or do we play a sweeper? Mayo's structure with Boyle sweeping worked a treat but Galway didn't help themselves throwing in Comer full forward and lumping the ball in without any great thought, as it played into their hands big time.
Personally I would like to see us play a sweeper, a two man inside line of Clifford and Jameso with plenty of help from our half forwards around the middle - Mayo have added big players now in Darren Coen and McDonagh and along with the returning Cillian O'Connor, they possess a real threat up front.
This is the defining game of our season - win it and we will head to Croke Park full of confidence - a loss would probably see our season end the following Sunday vs Donegal.
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Post by Kingdomson on Jul 7, 2019 8:58:18 GMT
Mayo will hold no fears in coming to Killarney - they are back in championship mode and are battle hardened from recent games, their explosive start proof of their match sharpness in contrast to Galway's recent inactivity. This would be a worry from a Kerry view point too as it can take a while to get to championship pace. The recent league final will have little bearing on the latest episode other than to highlight the physicality required at this level - hopefully we will have learned from that day. The cynicism of Mayo as recently highlighted by Fitzmaurice was much in evidence last night as they persistently fouled Galway as they ( Galway) set up their attacks - no action from a timid ref who allowed Mayo dictate the agenda. We will need to have a defined defensive structure - do we go man to man or do we play a sweeper? Mayo's structure with Boyle sweeping worked a treat but Galway didn't help themselves throwing in Comer full forward and lumping the ball in without any great thought, as it played into their hands big time. Personally I would like to see us play a sweeper, a two man inside line of Clifford and Jameso with plenty of help from our half forwards around the middle - Mayo have added big players now in Darren Coen and McDonagh and along with the returning Cillian O'Connor, they possess a real threat up front. This is the defining game of our season - win it and we will head to Croke Park full of confidence - a loss would probably see our season end the following Sunday vs Donegal. Good post! Next Sunday does have a knockout feel about it and for the reason you wrote. Dublin Joe was very lazy in his referring last night and Mayo got away very lightly. What interest would an attacker (Shane Walsh) have in rolling around on the turf when his side is 4 or 5 points down and the clock ticking? Clearly the Mayo defender was grappling and holding the attacker - Dublin Joe issues 2 yellows of course and it went on wholesale. A strong referee is needed and the linesmen need to bring attention to what is happening in front of them but I wouldn’t hold my breath. This is a very bitter and cynical Mayo team shaped by those hard defeats to Dublin willingly to break all rules and decorum to finally land Sam in what surely is a last chance for some of them. Kerry simply have to stand up for themselves because no mercy will be shown them.
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Post by kerryboy83 on Jul 7, 2019 9:12:44 GMT
Do clubs down here get tickets? Surely we are entitled to more tickets than mayo for this as it is our home game??
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 7, 2019 9:53:28 GMT
Do clubs down here get tickets? Surely we are entitled to more tickets than mayo for this as it is our home game?? County board will get an allocation for the game and it’s up to the clubs to apply for their own quota.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 7, 2019 10:14:23 GMT
No matter how i look at this I cant see Kerry winning this game.
A draw would be a great result.
Mayo have a well defined method of getting enough possession in a game from their own restarts. They know how to put pressure on the opposition keeper and if he has to go long they know how to mop up breaking ball.
They could be like a wrecking ball against lighter Kerry players.... big men like Maher, Donaghy and Sheehan and Peter Crowley brought power and strength. That will be missed.
Kerry do not yet appear to have the ability to twart the opposition running through the middle.
Kerrys full back line is not settled.
On the plus side, Mayo may run out of gas towards the end of each half as they are playing week in week out now.
Mayo are Mayo with a self destruct gene in their DNA and every game is a roller coaster ride of brilliance and the ridiculous.
Finally, Mayo will tweak plenty of tails hoping that to get a reaction. There is no evidence whatsoever to believe that Kerry wont fall for that.
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Post by ciarraioch1956 on Jul 7, 2019 10:42:11 GMT
Kerry need to win against Mayo next Sunday but it's going to be a big ask. Mayo are battle hardened with a run of games under their belts and bolstered by having beaten us in the League Final. Injuries haven't crippled them entirely as they have found a few stylish forwards, namely Carr,McDonagh,and Coen. Our forwards are much better however and Mayo's defence is not what it used to be. Huge question marks about our back's and m/field?? Mayo 'cynical fouling and deliberate time wasting should warrent close inspection from the referee. Teams and players who delve close to the edge should be punished no necessarily by cards but by close in frees. Any views on this?
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Post by The16thMan on Jul 7, 2019 11:16:22 GMT
Kerry need to win against Mayo next Sunday but it's going to be a big ask. Mayo are battle hardened with a run of games under their belts and bolstered by having beaten us in the League Final. Injuries haven't crippled them entirely as they have found a few stylish forwards, namely Carr,McDonagh,and Coen. Our forwards are much better however and Mayo's defence is not what it used to be. Huge question marks about our back's and m/field?? Mayo 'cynical fouling and deliberate time wasting should warrent close inspection from the referee. Teams and players who delve close to the edge should be punished no necessarily by cards but by close in frees. Any views on this? I think Mayo are overhyped like they usually are, they will be brought back to earth soon enough. Hopefully we can make our home venue in Killarney count and make it a toxic place for Mayo to come into. Mayo will try snap up the majority of the 35,000-40,000 tickets but we should really be attending this in our droves as this is season defining like Galway in Croke Park was last year. Hopefully Peter has a few Aces up his sleeve, we get a good start we could catch Mayo like a rabbit in the headlights. Last but not least, please don't let this Mayo team be the 1st team to beat us in Killarney since 1995.
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Post by veteran on Jul 7, 2019 11:54:29 GMT
The first requirement is the concession of no baby goals. Ideally no goals at all.
Kerry will not have played for three weeks while Mayo will have been on the road for successive weeks and therefore primed to start like a house on fire. Kerry will need to be prepared for that all guns blazing Mayo start.
I did not see last,night’s game (no Sky) but I am not surprised to hear of Mayo’s cynicism . They have it down to a fine art. Will need a strict referee. Anything to be said for Mr. Gough! I thought I would never hear myself utter that sentence. It would appear that Mayo are second only to Dublin in being the referee’s pet.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 7, 2019 12:00:59 GMT
I watched it in a pub with the sound turned down so not ideal.
It was the usual lawless mayhem. Not sure Galway were angels either but Mayo were ahead and they "managed" the game well to see it out to use modern parlance. Galway would have done likewise if they were ahead.
No point in complaining about it. Its what winners do.
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Post by themanfromthewest on Jul 7, 2019 12:07:08 GMT
Mayo are not great, Galway have been cack all year due to injuries and disillusionment with KW’s methods. Their season is over now and it is one they will want to forget. A new, more progressive manager could see that team dominate Connaught for the foreseeable future.
Mayo will try to antagonise our players and turn it in to a scrappy dogfight like they did in the second half last night, we cannot beat them this way so we need to play on our terms and not get drawn in to it. Home advantage is a big plus here. Keep the head, get some protection in there in front of our full back line and trust our forwards to score more. If we give away a few sloppy goals and get a man sent off we haven't a hope.
As others have alluded to we need to do better in the middle than we did during the league, which I think we will. Ruane is out and Moran is a good match for O’Shea, it will be two very different units facing off. They killed us on the breaking ball in the league final, presumably that did not escape Peter Keanes attention and Kerry have been working on it.
Too close to call but I am very hopeful that we can prevail and head to Croke Park the following weekend full of confidence. A win here could be a real catalyst for this team.
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Post by gaelicden on Jul 7, 2019 12:36:20 GMT
Looking towards next Sunday on the sky box. It appears that rte are showing both hurling quarter finals on rte 2... and Kerry v Mayo on rte 1.
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Post by The16thMan on Jul 7, 2019 13:35:01 GMT
Kerry v Mayo the only game not on tickets.ie yet. All the other games on there for sales to begin Monday at 10.00am at €25 each but nothing about the Kerry game. Hopefully this isn't cause they'll have more expensive costs for this game and be put on sale later in the week.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 7, 2019 13:46:38 GMT
The first requirement is the concession of no baby goals. Ideally no goals at all. Kerry will not have played for three weeks while Mayo will have been on the road for successive weeks and therefore primed to start like a house on fire. Kerry will need to be prepared for that all guns blazing Mayo start. I did not see last,night’s game (no Sky) but I am not surprised to hear of Mayo’s cynicism . They have it down to a fine art. Will need a strict referee. Anything to be said for Mr. Gough! I thought I would never hear myself utter that sentence. It would appear that Mayo are second only to Dublin in being the referee’s pet. I watched it in a pub with the sound turned down so not ideal. It was the usual lawless mayhem. Not sure Galway were angels either but Mayo were ahead and they "managed" the game well to see it out to use modern parlance. Galway would have done likewise if they were ahead. No point in complaining about it. Its what winners do. Staggering the volume of GAA people the Sky deal has taken the game away from. Watched it in a busy tourist pub also. You'd be better off going for a walk, swim or jog!
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 7, 2019 13:51:31 GMT
Mayo will hold no fears in coming to Killarney - they are back in championship mode and are battle hardened from recent games, their explosive start proof of their match sharpness in contrast to Galway's recent inactivity. This would be a worry from a Kerry view point too as it can take a while to get to championship pace. The recent league final will have little bearing on the latest episode other than to highlight the physicality required at this level - hopefully we will have learned from that day. The cynicism of Mayo as recently highlighted by Fitzmaurice was much in evidence last night as they persistently fouled Galway as they ( Galway) set up their attacks - no action from a timid ref who allowed Mayo dictate the agenda. We will need to have a defined defensive structure - do we go man to man or do we play a sweeper? Mayo's structure with Boyle sweeping worked a treat but Galway didn't help themselves throwing in Comer full forward and lumping the ball in without any great thought, as it played into their hands big time. Personally I would like to see us play a sweeper, a two man inside line of Clifford and Jameso with plenty of help from our half forwards around the middle - Mayo have added big players now in Darren Coen and McDonagh and along with the returning Cillian O'Connor, they possess a real threat up front. This is the defining game of our season - win it and we will head to Croke Park full of confidence - a loss would probably see our season end the following Sunday vs Donegal. No matter how i look at this I cant see Kerry winning this game. A draw would be a great result. Mayo have a well defined method of getting enough possession in a game from their own restarts. They know how to put pressure on the opposition keeper and if he has to go long they know how to mop up breaking ball. They could be like a wrecking ball against lighter Kerry players.... big men like Maher, Donaghy and Sheehan and Peter Crowley brought power and strength. That will be missed. Kerry do not yet appear to have the ability to twart the opposition running through the middle. Kerrys full back line is not settled. On the plus side, Mayo may run out of gas towards the end of each half as they are playing week in week out now. Mayo are Mayo with a self destruct gene in their DNA and every game is a roller coaster ride of brilliance and the ridiculous. Finally, Mayo will tweak plenty of tails hoping that to get a reaction. There is no evidence whatsoever to believe that Kerry wont fall for that. These are the games over the next few weeks that the DCs & SOSs stayed at home in Ireland to play in for Kerry. I expect the dozen or so minors since '14 to step up to the plate big time over this 7-8 day time-frame.
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Post by mossie on Jul 7, 2019 14:14:42 GMT
On the potential attendance figures - people need to be aware that the maximum allowed in Killarney for this game is 30,000. This is so for Health and Safety reasons as there is only one game and a greater number of patrons will all converge on the stadium at roughly the same time. It’s vital that our supporters get their tickets sorted as soon as possible. The lads deserve our full support, no excuses. You sure it is only 30k capacity for the Mayo match?
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Post by The16thMan on Jul 7, 2019 14:24:45 GMT
On the potential attendance figures - people need to be aware that the maximum allowed in Killarney for this game is 30,000. This is so for Health and Safety reasons as there is only one game and a greater number of patrons will all converge on the stadium at roughly the same time. It’s vital that our supporters get their tickets sorted as soon as possible. The lads deserve our full support, no excuses. You sure it is only 30k capacity for the Mayo match? What I was thinking, surely at least, 35,000. Was usually about 40,000 for Munster finals. I know they took away the seats in the scoreboard end but they filled it with tarmac so people can go in there as sort of a terrace kind of thing before they finish off the terrace down that end. I imagine we'll be looking at a crowd of about 35,000
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 7, 2019 14:48:18 GMT
Killarney will be hopping next Sunday evening. Has the capacity been set yet?
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