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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Jul 7, 2019 14:54:21 GMT
Its a massive game for Jack Barry or whoever we choose to partner Moran at midfield. It depends how Mayo decide to mark from Kerry kickouts. If they match O'Shea with Moran on our restarts I would hit the other wing and try and isolate Barry on his marker with another Kerry man waiting for the break. If Moran isn't marked by O'Shea I would hit him with everything long.
Ideally I would have Gavin O'Brien in from the start to add an option for kickouts. He seems to ave dropped down the pecking order. Although people will suggest it its not as simple as isolating Clifford and Geaney inside. Mayo will probably go for a man marker on Clifford and maybe Geaney. We need to create mismatches inside there but no necessarily around Clifford. Get Clifford to pull his man to the centre and open space for Stephen O'Brien to run into down that wing.
If JOD is fully fit and playing well I would go with an orthodox full forward line for at least the first 15 minutest. Depdends on JOD and his fitness and if Geaney starts.
As mentioned before we need our half forward line to work like dogs to stop the runners at source. Diarmuid O'Connor is some prospect but himself and Moynihan are still very light as this level and can you play both of them from the start against Mayo?
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jul 7, 2019 16:22:49 GMT
For match ups in our defence I would go for the following if Mayo line out as they did last night which I expect they will;
Morley on Coen Foley on O'Connor Sherwood on Carr O'Sullivan on McLoughlin Murphy on Doherty Crowley on McDonagh
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2019 16:29:00 GMT
For match ups in our defence I would go for the following if Mayo line out as they did last night which I expect they will; Morley on Coen Foley on O'Connor Sherwood on Carr O'Sullivan on McLoughlin Murphy on Doherty Crowley on McDonagh Gavin White dropped?
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Jul 7, 2019 16:32:34 GMT
Whats the prices for the match on Sunday?
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Post by The16thMan on Jul 7, 2019 16:45:48 GMT
Whats the prices for the match on Sunday? €25 for the other games on tickets.ie so I presume it'll be the same for this one even though it's not up yet.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Jul 7, 2019 18:27:10 GMT
Any reason why the tickets for this game aren't being released until tomorrow?
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Post by trevor73 on Jul 7, 2019 18:56:52 GMT
Personally I'm very fearful about this fixture and it seems I'm not alone. It's essentially an experienced battle hardened cynical side against a very young and inexperienced one. Mayo have momentum and you saw how that helped against Galway. We need a strong ref that won't allow them to indulge in the dark arts. Kerry need to reign in Aidan O Se. Man mark him?
This lot have our number since 2014. It's time to restore natural order. Like in Limerick during the epic semi final our fans need to stand up and be counted. And also when Tyrone came to Killarney in the qualifiers a while back.
It's a essentially a knock out game as Donegal in Croke Park is tougher too. Last year we blew it early. This year we need to put down a strong marker. It's time for all this potential and a better system behind it to mature and instill fear into the rest of Ireland because right now nobody rates us. You'd think they would learn. Never write off the Kingdom
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Post by ciarrai4sam on Jul 7, 2019 19:39:05 GMT
What time are the tickets being made available tomorrow guys
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Jul 7, 2019 19:53:03 GMT
10 AM
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jul 7, 2019 20:22:12 GMT
The first requirement is the concession of no baby goals. Ideally no goals at all. Kerry will not have played for three weeks while Mayo will have been on the road for successive weeks and therefore primed to start like a house on fire. Kerry will need to be prepared for that all guns blazing Mayo start. I did not see last,night’s game (no Sky) but I am not surprised to hear of Mayo’s cynicism . They have it down to a fine art. Will need a strict referee. Anything to be said for Mr. Gough! I thought I would never hear myself utter that sentence. It would appear that Mayo are second only to Dublin in being the referee’s pet. I am appalled that anyone is denied the right to see a GAA game on our national TV station that we actually own, and I think I speak for one and all when I find that turning away the like of our Vet is shameful. We have all these Croker games 'to maximise revenues' but now we get caught again, and again, and again. Then a Dublin TD tells us that rural Ireland is favoured with broadband that it hasn't even got, and when he gets his answer he then tells us we have the N2 and N3 - I am not anti-Dub but this is absolutely disgraceful. If Vet was in Dublin he could stroll over to Croker. Worse still how many would be stars youngsters are deprived of seeing games, so the next time someone decides to go down under, I'll give 'em clap on the back, because GAA HQ have pushed them away, if money is that important to GAA HQ the we must all go me fein - so so sad, reminds of that picture from wasn't it 2014 of a house in Mayo full to the rafters with neighbours, would be great to be among them but that is hardly the point!
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Jul 7, 2019 20:36:49 GMT
The first requirement is the concession of no baby goals. Ideally no goals at all. Kerry will not have played for three weeks while Mayo will have been on the road for successive weeks and therefore primed to start like a house on fire. Kerry will need to be prepared for that all guns blazing Mayo start. I did not see last,night’s game (no Sky) but I am not surprised to hear of Mayo’s cynicism . They have it down to a fine art. Will need a strict referee. Anything to be said for Mr. Gough! I thought I would never hear myself utter that sentence. It would appear that Mayo are second only to Dublin in being the referee’s pet. I am appalled that anyone is denied the right to see a GAA game on our national TV station that we actually own, and I think I speak for one and all when I find that turning away the like of our Vet is shameful. We have all these Croker games 'to maximise revenues' but now we get caught again, and again, and again. Then a Dublin TD tells us that rural Ireland is favoured with broadband that it hasn't even got, and when he gets his answer he then tells us we have the N2 and N3 - I am not anti-Dub but this is absolutely disgraceful. If Vet was in Dublin he could stroll over to Croker. Worse still how many would be stars youngsters are deprived of seeing games, so the next time someone decides to go down under, I'll give 'em clap on the back, because GAA HQ have pushed them away, if money is that important to GAA HQ the we must all go me fein - so so sad, reminds of that picture from wasn't it 2014 of a house in Mayo full to the rafters with neighbours, would be great to be among them but that is hardly the point! Can we not redo this argument again in this thread? Its a valid argument but don't derail the thread. I will say Sky's coverage is lite years ahead of RTE especially analysis wise.
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Post by oldschool on Jul 7, 2019 20:38:41 GMT
Who is the ref for our game against Mayo? He would want to do a better job than Mayo v Galway ref. He really let Mayo off the hook more than once,
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Jul 7, 2019 21:06:14 GMT
Who is the ref for our game against Mayo? He would want to do a better job than Mayo v Galway ref. He really let Mayo off the hook more than once, That was Dublin Joe.
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Post by kerryexile on Jul 7, 2019 21:45:03 GMT
The first requirement is the concession of no baby goals. Ideally no goals at all. Kerry will not have played for three weeks while Mayo will have been on the road for successive weeks and therefore primed to start like a house on fire. Kerry will need to be prepared for that all guns blazing Mayo start. I did not see last,night’s game (no Sky) but I am not surprised to hear of Mayo’s cynicism . They have it down to a fine art. Will need a strict referee. Anything to be said for Mr. Gough! I thought I would never hear myself utter that sentence. It would appear that Mayo are second only to Dublin in being the referee’s pet. I watched it in a pub with the sound turned down so not ideal. It was the usual lawless mayhem. Not sure Galway were angels either but Mayo were ahead and they "managed" the game well to see it out to use modern parlance. Galway would have done likewise if they were ahead. No point in complaining about it. Its what winners do. Staggering the volume of GAA people the Sky deal has taken the game away from. Watched it in a busy tourist pub also. You'd be better off going for a walk, swim or jog! I also watched it in a pub with no sound. I agree about better off going for a walk but must admit I stayed for the drink.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 7, 2019 22:19:11 GMT
Kerry are surprisingly hot favourites, 15/8 on, Mayo 15/8 against, Draw 15/2 Kerry's record in Killarney is very good. Mayo are on their last legs and although a great side in their own right they best a Galway side I an ashamed Kerry lost to last year because they are gack are they on their last legs though. Does this statement stand up to scrutiny. They have a nice infusion of new guys like Darren Coen and his cousin Stephen Coen and James Carr and Treacy and another lad whose name escapes me now. If you were to pick a team of 15 plus 6 subs from Kerry and Mayo you might end up with more Mayo men on it if you were to be impartial about it....
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Post by dc84 on Jul 7, 2019 22:20:29 GMT
Just saw cork v laois on tsg maybe we were a bit harsh on our backs a few weeks ago they really have some quality forwards. Hurley Collins and Deane are serious footballers. Cork are better than Galway at this moment in time.
Hope they do themselves justice next Saturday dublin will still beat them well as the levels of fitness will tell in the end
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Post by themanfromthewest on Jul 7, 2019 22:44:53 GMT
Kerry's record in Killarney is very good. Mayo are on their last legs and although a great side in their own right they best a Galway side I an ashamed Kerry lost to last year because they are gack are they on their last legs though. Does this statement stand up to scrutiny. They have a nice infusion of new guys like Darren Coen and his cousin Stephen Coen and James Carr and Treacy and another lad whose name escapes me now. If you were to pick a team of 15 plus 6 subs from Kerry and Mayo you might end up with more Mayo men on it if you were to be impartial about it.... I’d agree with this they really have found some great new talent. You can add mcdonagh and Ruane to that list. Most of these guys won an U21 in 2016 yet only emerged at this level now. It’s a lesson for us in terms of patience with our young lads.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 7, 2019 23:04:10 GMT
Cavanagh giving Kerry no chance, think he really likes Kerry.
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Post by The16thMan on Jul 7, 2019 23:47:21 GMT
Cavanagh giving Kerry no chance, think he really likes Kerry. Yeah he's not giving us a prayer, neither are any other county really which suits us down to the ground. Better not to have the young players hyped up too much. They might give a better performance knowing their being wrote off (like Tyrone in Killarney in 2012) and that they have a lot to prove. With Cavanagh though, he's getting a bit cocky over Tyrone. That game with them vs Cork in Croke Park will be huge and a close one in my opinion as I expect both teams to beat Roscommon (not by much though) and be fighting it out for 2nd place.
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Post by Aodhan on Jul 8, 2019 2:13:40 GMT
What is the black card situation with Kerry? I presume they carry over from the league. Mayo have become the most cynical team in football, it is utterly import that Kerry do not retaliate. They also make every game a home game, by all accounts they outnumbered Galway 4 to 1 in Limerick. Can't let this happen in our patch. They will snap up tickets as fast as possible online. This Kerry team needs us now more than ever. Celebrity Mick was in Limerick Saturday and is heading in our direction
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Post by crokes86 on Jul 8, 2019 2:47:28 GMT
Not really confident we can get a result from this game. Everyone knows our weaknesses at this stage. I expect Mayo to run at us in numbers and go right down through the middle.
Our backs and midfield are just not good enough at this level. We are totally reliant on Clifford and O'Shea up front and if they get injured or have an off day then we're in big trouble.
Stephen O'Brien is also having a good year. Geaney has totally gone off the boil. O'Donoghue just can't stay injury free. Diarmuid O'Connor is a great prospect but also very young.
Add to that too Mayo will be well ahead in the physical aspect of the game. I think those games they have had in the last few weeks will stand to them.
We won a poor Munster championship and thats really all we have done the last few years. I thought when Keane took over he would have made some changes to the way we defend but i don't see a big difference to the way we have defended the last few years. Teams are still walking through us.
We would need huge games from Moran and Barry and a big improvement from our half back line and i just can't see that happening. I think we will do well to keep it 3 or 4 points.
Really hope I'm wrong though. Best of luck to the team on Sunday.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 8, 2019 7:15:51 GMT
I am appalled that anyone is denied the right to see a GAA game on our national TV station that we actually own, and I think I speak for one and all when I find that turning away the like of our Vet is shameful. We have all these Croker games 'to maximise revenues' but now we get caught again, and again, and again. Then a Dublin TD tells us that rural Ireland is favoured with broadband that it hasn't even got, and when he gets his answer he then tells us we have the N2 and N3 - I am not anti-Dub but this is absolutely disgraceful. If Vet was in Dublin he could stroll over to Croker. Worse still how many would be stars youngsters are deprived of seeing games, so the next time someone decides to go down under, I'll give 'em clap on the back, because GAA HQ have pushed them away, if money is that important to GAA HQ the we must all go me fein - so so sad, reminds of that picture from wasn't it 2014 of a house in Mayo full to the rafters with neighbours, would be great to be among them but that is hardly the point! Can we not redo this argument again in this thread? Its a valid argument but don't derail the thread. I will say Sky's coverage is lite years ahead of RTE especially analysis wise. Additionally the match was in Limerick rather than Croke Park. I am sure Vet remembers a time when almost no football was on TV.
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Post by onlykerry on Jul 8, 2019 8:21:45 GMT
Sorry to be the party pooper but we have no God given right to watch each and every match on TV for free - we never had and we never will. Go to any club game and you have to fork out anything from €5 - €15 depending on the game before you factor in your travelling costs. For intercounty we are extremely lucky to get the number of games we do get on TV for free. As Annascaultilidie mentions games on TV are a relatively recent occurance and the AI SF and F were what was on offer when I was growing up - delighted we get a lot more now but we need to stop thinking we are entitled to watch every game for free.
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Post by dc84 on Jul 8, 2019 8:22:20 GMT
Are we building mayo up a bit too much? How bad were Galway? Shocking bad is how I'd see it. They got a good start with the soft goal and a team set up like Galway can't chase a lead.
The key here as a team who haven't played in a while is the start we have to be up to the pitch of the game. Moran and Barry should do fine here would have been more worried if the pacy ruane was there.need a lot more from our half forward line defensively to stop Durcan et al. As for match ups assuming mayo go with same forwards foley on coen,Morley on O'Connor, w on carr, Murphy on mcloughlin ,Sherwood on doherty and Crowley on mcdonagh. When you look at it man for man we match up ok I wouldn't mind o Sullivan on coen either as coen is not fast or super athletic and Tom could burn him like he did Kerrigan in cork. O brien has won every individual battle so far this year and Buckley has massively improved his tackling technique. Who do mayo have to mark Clifford? Think geaney will be better here he has to be seanie Shea got roughed up in league final but that young man is iron and I expect him to bounce back it was notable in cork he got into a lot more scoring positions the last day.
I'm cautiously optimistic about this game win it and we have one foot in the semis lose it and we are in big trouble. Proper championship game in a packed killarney in the middle of july if this doesn't get you fired up then check your pulse!!!
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jul 8, 2019 8:27:55 GMT
Kerry's record in Killarney is very good. Mayo are on their last legs and although a great side in their own right they best a Galway side I an ashamed Kerry lost to last year because they are gack are they on their last legs though. Does this statement stand up to scrutiny. They have a nice infusion of new guys like Darren Coen and his cousin Stephen Coen and James Carr and Treacy and another lad whose name escapes me now. If you were to pick a team of 15 plus 6 subs from Kerry and Mayo you might end up with more Mayo men on it if you were to be impartial about it.... Clarke Barrett Morley Harrison O'Sullivan Keegan Durcan O'Shea Moran Doherty O'Shea O'Brien Clifford Geaney Carr 8-7 to Mayo from my team.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 8, 2019 8:30:46 GMT
are they on their last legs though. Does this statement stand up to scrutiny. They have a nice infusion of new guys like Darren Coen and his cousin Stephen Coen and James Carr and Treacy and another lad whose name escapes me now. If you were to pick a team of 15 plus 6 subs from Kerry and Mayo you might end up with more Mayo men on it if you were to be impartial about it.... Clarke Barrett Morley Harrison O'Sullivan Keegan Durcan O'Shea Moran Doherty O'Shea O'Brien Clifford Geaney Carr 8-7 to Mayo from my team. yeah... and Mayo might have more subs if you pick a panel of 21.
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Jul 8, 2019 8:51:35 GMT
Surely Mayo will be thinking that if they push up on the Kerry kick outs, like they did in the league final, that will be the winning of the game for them? Conversely, I would expect the Kerry management to have some plan in place to counteract this. Our midfield and half back line are a constant issue. Sherwood needs to be an anchor/stopper at 6, otherwise we can forget completely about winning games against the best opposition. Cork pointed out lots of flaws in our formation. My issue is that so did Mayo in the league final and in Tralee earlier in the league. I would like to see us structurally sound, ala the last 14 minutes against Cork. That would be a good basis for us to have a right go at Mayo.
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Post by gbbuei on Jul 8, 2019 9:11:33 GMT
are they on their last legs though. Does this statement stand up to scrutiny. They have a nice infusion of new guys like Darren Coen and his cousin Stephen Coen and James Carr and Treacy and another lad whose name escapes me now. If you were to pick a team of 15 plus 6 subs from Kerry and Mayo you might end up with more Mayo men on it if you were to be impartial about it.... Clarke Barrett Morley Harrison O'Sullivan Keegan Durcan O'Shea Moran Doherty O'Shea O'Brien Clifford Geaney Carr 8-7 to Mayo from my team. 100% Coen would start ahead of Geaney on current form
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Post by glengael on Jul 8, 2019 9:12:24 GMT
no tickets on sale yet. they appear to be on sale for other 3 matches.
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Post by gbbuei on Jul 8, 2019 9:13:55 GMT
Surely Mayo will be thinking that if they push up on the Kerry kick outs, like they did in the league final, that will be the winning of the game for them? Conversely, I would expect the Kerry management to have some plan in place to counteract this. Our midfield and half back line are a constant issue. Sherwood needs to be an anchor/stopper at 6, otherwise we can forget completely about winning games against the best opposition. Cork pointed out lots of flaws in our formation. My issue is that so did Mayo in the league final and in Tralee earlier in the league. I would like to see us structurally sound, ala the last 14 minutes against Cork. That would be a good basis for us to have a right go at Mayo. Similarly we need a plan for Mayo’s kick-outs. Dave Clarke is an excellent goal keeper and shot stopper but his kick-outs are his weak link. Which is why Hennelly keeps getting a shot at it. So similar to what we’ve done in the past with Cluxton’s kick-outs we need to put Clarke’s kick-outs under enormous pressure.
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