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Post by veteran on Oct 18, 2018 11:44:19 GMT
It is a huge worry that an eighteen year old has to undergo a shoulder operation. I suspect it is very rare occurrence at that age. In contrast the wrist injury to Kevin McCarthy is merely a short term problem, albeit that is no consolation to East Kerry. Taking into account these injuries , the loss of Stefan and Mark and the spate of retirements one is burdened with a feeling of emptiness at the end of a forgettable year.
His impending shoulder operation makes David’s scoring exploits of last Sunday all the more extraordinary. Please God, facilitate the return of the 2018 David in 2019.
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Post by yerah on Oct 18, 2018 13:34:13 GMT
Going for shoulder operation after East Kerrys involvement in County Championship Out for 15 weeks after I am sure the shoulder will be tested hard this coming weekend with this news hitting the airwaves and again in the final should they get that far. It's a pity it is announced before such a crucial game (or games).
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Post by sullyschoice on Oct 18, 2018 14:03:48 GMT
Is their truth on D Clifford going for surgery? Is this going to set him back a few years similar to J Donoghue. K Macarthy not good news I think. Not looking good for the foreseeable future with player injured and going to AFL. Confirmed on Radio Kerry a few mins ago Going for shoulder operation after East Kerrys involvement in County Championship Out for 15 weeks after Ah Bollox. That's all I have to say on the matter
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Post by buck02 on Oct 18, 2018 14:25:00 GMT
Cliffords shoulder has been dodgy for a few years now. This is the best time for surgery. He has had a fairly exhausting year and no Sigerson or NFL early rounds will be positive in the long run for him IMO.
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Post by givehimaball on Oct 18, 2018 15:21:42 GMT
Is their truth on D Clifford going for surgery? Is this going to set him back a few years similar to J Donoghue. K Macarthy not good news I think. Not looking good for the foreseeable future with player injured and going to AFL. Confirmed on Radio Kerry a few mins ago Going for shoulder operation after East Kerrys involvement in County Championship Out for 15 weeks after Looking at the middle of February, if the 15 weeks forecast is accurate. In terms of the league you imagine he will miss the Tyrone, Cavan, and Dublin games. Galway on February 23 is probably the earliest he will be back.
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 19, 2018 8:25:33 GMT
No need to rush him back then either. He doesn't need to play NFL in 2019. He didn't need to be front ended with games last February. It must be pretty clear by now that he can step up on demand. There are plenty of young players to give game time to in the NFL. UCD's and Dublin's management of Con O'Callaghan has been very good.
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Post by animal on Oct 19, 2018 8:41:56 GMT
No need to rush him back then either. He doesn't need to play NFL in 2019. He didn't need to be front ended with games last February. It must be pretty clear by now that he can step up on demand. There are plenty of young players to give game time to in the NFL. UCD's and Dublin's management of Con O'Callaghan has been very good. I agree with the lack of need to rush David back but Dublin's use of Con O'Callaghan was very much dictated by his involvement with Cuala in the hurling. I wonder how much they would have used him had Cuala not been involved last Spring. Either way it took him a long time to get going this year compared to last. Second season syndrome?. Something we should be mindful of with regard to the likes of David, Sean O'Shea and James Foley this coming year
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Post by dc84 on Oct 19, 2018 15:15:52 GMT
Confirmed on Radio Kerry a few mins ago Going for shoulder operation after East Kerrys involvement in County Championship Out for 15 weeks after As long as he comes back as good as he was. Might be no bad thing in the long run. Can't be totally reliant on an U20 all the time. Time for the likes of JOD and Geaney to step back up to the plate in the league Hopefully it will be other lads ie brosnan or someone else think geaney looked burnt out by end of munster this year
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Post by Kingdomson on Oct 19, 2018 15:37:32 GMT
No one wants to see David missing out but for the Kerry team, learning to swim in the forwards without him might be no bad thing in the long run. We don't want an over dependency situation developing with players seeking out the big guy too much like we used to do with Maurice F during the famine years. On another note, if this era of the Dubs thought us anything it’s that burnout is all in the head in this day and age. It wasn’t burnout that got to some of the senior footballers last summer but the high-pressure heat clearly got too hot in heads for some. Heads need to be sorted out and no better man than Peter Keane to get fellas in the right headspace.
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Post by pintpleasejohn on Oct 29, 2018 22:43:37 GMT
Saw an article on FB saying that gavin o brien has been called up to the kerry squad. Having seen him a few times in the championship this year it’s well deserved. Any other new names gone in?
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Post by Galway breeze on Oct 30, 2018 12:22:04 GMT
Gavin O' Br deserves the call up to senior if that's the case, but a few lads could have made the championship team on radio Kerry the likes of Seanie o Sé, JOD, D O Connor, and Dingle goalie Gavin Curran were very consistent when involved.
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Post by greengold35 on Oct 30, 2018 12:33:38 GMT
Gavin O' Br deserves the call up to senior if that's the case, but a few lads could have made the championship team on radio Kerry the likes of Seanie o Sé, JOD, D O Connor, and Dingle goalie Gavin Curran were very consistent when involved. Agree - but like the All Stars selections, team mainly picked from the two finalists, both of whom had come through the back door.
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Post by piggott on Oct 30, 2018 13:15:33 GMT
Hope PK goes outside this ALL STAR team to compile his panel!!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Oct 30, 2018 15:32:26 GMT
Hope PK goes outside this ALL STAR team to compile his panel!! Hopefully there are more than 15 players on the Kerry panel...
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Post by greenmen55 on Nov 19, 2018 15:09:02 GMT
A lot of rumors going around about new fellas being brought into the mix is there any truth in these rumors? Does anybody know anyone who actually has been called in besides Gavin O Brien??
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Post by An Bradán on Nov 19, 2018 21:25:40 GMT
Also players rumoured to be heading for the exit door too.
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Post by bannerman on Nov 19, 2018 21:34:03 GMT
Keane, casey, Fitzgerald and Shanahan reported on kerry radio as gone. Also hearing Griffin and young but those two unconfirmed and would have me doubts on such a cull after big names retiring
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Post by greengold35 on Nov 20, 2018 8:45:32 GMT
Gone: Daithi Casey, Fionn Fitzgerald, BJ Keane, Jack Savage, all of K2 except Tony Brosnan. In: Jonathan Lyne, Conor Keane, Cian Gammell, Danny Sheehan, David Shaw, Gavin O’Brien, Jack Sherwood, Dara Moynihan, Shane Ryan, Mark Ryan, Paudie Clifford, Rob Wharton.
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Post by brigid on Nov 20, 2018 12:30:18 GMT
I heard players in are 5 from Templenoe - Morley, Crowley, 2 Spillanes and Clifford.
Not included are Barry O'Sullivan, Flaherty, and Shanahan,
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Nov 20, 2018 13:29:04 GMT
Shannahan defintely seems to not be this or the past managements cup of tea. Never really knew who was on the K2 panel so not really bothered as felt it was just tying up players unnecessarily.
No issue with any of the players gone to be honest. Maybe BJK as an impact sub but thats about it. Think Fionn Fitz was finished at this level last year anyway. I can understand Daithi Casey. Peter Keane wont have him for the league due to Crokes involvement so might as well focus on youth.
I think Lyne and Conor Keane are in as Peter knows them from his time with legion and obviously thinks they can do a job. Think Lyne was poor for a while before e was dropped off the panel last year. Great to see Shane Ryan in. I think the panel will be fairly fluid anyway until he can get to grips with the players and see what he actually has.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Nov 20, 2018 14:15:29 GMT
Lyne and Keane are surprises to be honest - especially the former
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Post by onlykerry on Nov 20, 2018 14:21:20 GMT
PK is the breath of fresh air we all demanded and its his perrogative who he calls in or not - best of luck to him and I am really looking forward to 2019.
One however comment - he needs to manage the process correctly and players being omitted (particularly those who have been part of the set up for a few years) deserve respect also and should be properly informed that their services are not currently required. I think the motto in sport is GET RESPECT - GIVE RESPECT and this should apply. Am hearing murmurings that this may not have happened and it could sour things quickly for the new management.
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Post by hurlingman on Nov 20, 2018 16:52:34 GMT
What is this K2 panel? I only recently heard about it.
As for the players who are gone. I've felt they were all past it now bar Shanahan, but at the same time wouldn't be surprised if they were back at some point. As others have said Lyne and Keane are quite big surprises.
I'd be very surprised if Young has been let go TBH, while we need youth of course i don't think PK would get rid of all the experienced players all at once
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Post by greengold35 on Nov 20, 2018 17:33:17 GMT
What is this K2 panel? I only recently heard about it. As for the players who are gone. I've felt they were all past it now bar Shanahan, but at the same time wouldn't be surprised if they were back at some point. As others have said Lyne and Keane are quite big surprises. I'd be very surprised if Young has been let go TBH, while we need youth of course i don't think PK would get rid of all the experienced players all at once K2 was s supplementary panel EF had last year - 10/12 guys who trained once a week with county panel and were available for county league.
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Post by greenmen55 on Nov 20, 2018 19:06:54 GMT
Heard somewhere last week that Diarmuid O Connor from Na gaeil has also been called into the training panel? Does anybody know if there is any truth in this?
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Post by veteran on Nov 20, 2018 20:17:48 GMT
Could somebody explain to me why Ronan Shanahan is repeatedly excluded from Kerry teams/panels?
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Post by westkerry18 on Nov 20, 2018 21:00:05 GMT
Shannahan defintely seems to not be this or the past managements cup of tea. Never really knew who was on the K2 panel so not really bothered as felt it was just tying up players unnecessarily. No issue with any of the players gone to be honest. Maybe BJK as an impact sub but thats about it. Think Fionn Fitz was finished at this level last year anyway. I can understand Daithi Casey. Peter Keane wont have him for the league due to Crokes involvement so might as well focus on youth. I think Lyne and Conor Keane are in as Peter knows them from his time with legion and obviously thinks they can do a job. Think Lyne was poor for a while before e was dropped off the panel last year. Great to see Shane Ryan in. I think the panel will be fairly fluid anyway until he can get to grips with the players and see what he actually has.
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Post by westkerry18 on Nov 20, 2018 21:03:05 GMT
Shannahan defintely seems to not be this or the past managements cup of tea. Never really knew who was on the K2 panel so not really bothered as felt it was just tying up players unnecessarily. No issue with any of the players gone to be honest. Maybe BJK as an impact sub but thats about it. Think Fionn Fitz was finished at this level last year anyway. I can understand Daithi Casey. Peter Keane wont have him for the league due to Crokes involvement so might as well focus on youth. I think Lyne and Conor Keane are in as Peter knows them from his time with legion and obviously thinks they can do a job. Think Lyne was poor for a while before e was dropped off the panel last year. Great to see Shane Ryan in. I think the panel will be fairly fluid anyway until he can get to grips with the players and see what he actually has. I am hearing that Kevin Breen and Jamie Sullivan are in also from legion?? Open to correction on this one Mike Stam spa is due to come back in also??
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Post by culbaire on Nov 20, 2018 21:28:59 GMT
I am hearing that Kevin Breen and Jamie Sullivan are in also from legion?? Open to correction on this one Mike Stam spa is due to come back in also?? Stam must be a good age now he seems to be around for ever? Any word on any of the west Kerry lads getting a look in? Eg gav curran, Cathal long, rob Se, eanna, Tom Leo, Barry Dan all deserve a look anyway and maybe Conor Geaney If fit?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 21:33:23 GMT
What was the objective of the K2 thing? It seems odd that none of these players are deemed good enough now to make a training panel.
It is early days and I would be surprised if Keane was closing the door to some of those mentioned just yet.
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