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Post by bannerman on Oct 16, 2018 21:22:22 GMT
Could Shane Ryan come back into picture for the sticks
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Post by Kingdomson on Oct 16, 2018 23:20:48 GMT
I haven't seen Cormac Coffey's name mentioned at all in the plethora of names raised as continuing options for the Kerry backs - lets not forget him. Surely, the possibilities continue! Like a few others have mentioned, midfield would be my main concern gong forward, well that, and the fact a 19 year old carried the fight for our forwards this year when the pressure clearly overwhelmed our more established senior stars in that sector. Who will lead the Kerry midfield engine room going into the next decade? Our great hope, the next potential Darragh and an antidote for Fenton is in Oz - who is the next midfield general?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 1:33:39 GMT
To continue in the spirit of the above posts, we should look at David Clifford as full back, he is big and strong and would be solid under a high ball. I think Jason foley could replace him in the forwards as his pace would be a real asset.
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Post by Deise Exile on Oct 17, 2018 5:43:15 GMT
To continue in the spirit of the above posts, we should look at David Clifford as full back, he is big and strong and would be solid under a high ball. I think Jason foley could replace him in the forwards as his pace would be a real asset. 😂😂😂😂😂
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 9:06:22 GMT
Could Shane Ryan come back into picture for the sticks
I believe he is coming in - the Kerry management have no issue with him playing outfield once Kerry are knocked out of the All Ireland series (or hopefully win it!).
I would imagine Brian Kelly will be left go - based on his showing when playing for Kerry that would come as no surprise and his displays in the co championship would have sealed his fate. He is not at the required level for an intercounty keeper and indeed Kealy would be a good bit ahead of him.
But expect Shane Ryan and Murphy to battle it out next season for the number 1 jersey.
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 17, 2018 9:39:33 GMT
Seen this somewhere else.
10 oldest players at the moment. Might be missing some
Killian Young (31) David Moran (30) Shane Enright (30) Mikey Geaney (29) Brian Kelly (28) Fionn Fitzgerald (28) Peter Crowley (28) James O Donoghue (28) BJ Keane (28) Daithi Casey (28)
So of those 10 would any of them be considered a loss if they were left go? I know not all of them will be but would any of them really be missed?
Quite a lot of them haven't improved since 2014 and have been given more than enough game time since.
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Post by buck02 on Oct 17, 2018 10:01:25 GMT
Seen this somewhere else. 10 oldest players at the moment. Might be missing some Killian Young (31) David Moran (30) Shane Enright (30) Mikey Geaney (29) Brian Kelly (28) Fionn Fitzgerald (28) Peter Crowley (28) James O Donoghue (28) BJ Keane (28) Daithi Casey (28) So of those 10 would any of them be considered a loss if they were left go? I know not all of them will be but would any of them really be missed?Quite a lot of them haven't improved since 2014 and have been given more than enough game time since. I know its all about different opinions and everything but how can people honestly think that David Moran wouldnt be missed? He has been our best midfielder by a distance for the last 5 seasons and is one of a few Kerry players who the opposition will always target as they know how important he is to Kerry. He is not flawless by any means but I dont get some of the grief he gets here and from some in the stands and terraces.
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Post by dc84 on Oct 17, 2018 10:13:02 GMT
Seen this somewhere else. 10 oldest players at the moment. Might be missing some Killian Young (31) David Moran (30) Shane Enright (30) Mikey Geaney (29) Brian Kelly (28) Fionn Fitzgerald (28) Peter Crowley (28) James O Donoghue (28) BJ Keane (28) Daithi Casey (28) So of those 10 would any of them be considered a loss if they were left go? I know not all of them will be but would any of them really be missed?Quite a lot of them haven't improved since 2014 and have been given more than enough game time since. I know its all about different opinions and everything but how can people honestly think that David Moran wouldnt be missed? He has been our best midfielder by a distance for the last 5 seasons and is one of a few Kerry players who the opposition will always target as they know how important he is to Kerry. He is not flawless by any means but I dont get some of the grief he gets here and from some in the stands and terraces. 100% totally agree dont get it at all either he IS our mf tbf and with maher and donaghy gone we really have only two him and Barry, we often get beaten at mf but thats an 8 man issue not moran if we had galvin and walsh at their peak we would see a different outcome. If moran wasnt there we would i have no doubt lose the mf battle every time we play
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Oct 17, 2018 10:54:06 GMT
I know its all about different opinions and everything but how can people honestly think that David Moran wouldnt be missed? He has been our best midfielder by a distance for the last 5 seasons and is one of a few Kerry players who the opposition will always target as they know how important he is to Kerry. He is not flawless by any means but I dont get some of the grief he gets here and from some in the stands and terraces. 100% totally agree dont get it at all either he IS our mf tbf and with maher and donaghy gone we really have only two him and Barry, we often get beaten at mf but thats an 8 man issue not moran if we had galvin and walsh at their peak we would see a different outcome. If moran wasnt there we would i have no doubt lose the mf battle every time we play I have always said Moran is good player just lacks consistency. He can do some great things but, can also do some poor thinks as well. I honestly think he would have been the perfect foil for someone like Darragh. But, I don't think being THE main man in midfield suits him. Its hard to find some one to play with him. With the modern game whoever plays with him needs to provide the legs. Hes not slow by any means he is just not fast either. On his day he is probably one our best passers of the ball. Maybe a few years ago he could have been moulded into a 'stopper' centre back. That said our tactics the last few years werent great for him either. In fairness to Moran since 2015 he hasn't really had a solid partner with him. The new rule in the league for the kickouts might suit him. When we are kicking out the ball anyway.
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Post by hatchetman on Oct 17, 2018 11:49:58 GMT
Could Shane Ryan come back into picture for the sticks
I believe he is coming in - the Kerry management have no issue with him playing outfield once Kerry are knocked out of the All Ireland series (or hopefully win it!).
I would imagine Brian Kelly will be left go - based on his showing when playing for Kerry that would come as no surprise and his displays in the co championship would have sealed his fate. He is not at the required level for an intercounty keeper and indeed Kealy would be a good bit ahead of him.
But expect Shane Ryan and Murphy to battle it out next season for the number 1 jersey.
Would David Clifford be worth a try?
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 17, 2018 13:12:29 GMT
Kerry still have 9 starters from the 2014 All-Ireland left with Johnny Buckley potentially to come back. Four subs remain with two, Brendan Kealy & Jonathan Lyne potentially to come back on the panel.
Hard to argue that next years Kerry panel will lack experience and know how. Add the 7-8 new young players who made their championship debuts in 2017 & 2018 plus a few more young players coming through not yet involved and with a new management freshness it all points towards an exciting 2019.
Kerry XV to play Donegal: Brian Kelly, Marc Ó Sé, Aidan O'Mahony, Fionn Fitzgerald (captain), Paul Murphy, Peter Crowley, Killian Young, Anthony Maher, David Moran, Stephen O'Brien, Johnny Buckley, Donnchadh Walsh, Paul Geaney, Kieran Donaghy, James O'Donoghue.
Replacements: Brendan Kealy, Shane Enright, Michael Geaney, Declan O'Sullivan, Bryan Sheehan, Barry John Keane, Darran O'Sullivan, Kieran O'Leary, Jonathan Lyne, Mark Griffin, Pa Kilkenny.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Oct 17, 2018 13:19:43 GMT
I believe he is coming in - the Kerry management have no issue with him playing outfield once Kerry are knocked out of the All Ireland series (or hopefully win it!).
I would imagine Brian Kelly will be left go - based on his showing when playing for Kerry that would come as no surprise and his displays in the co championship would have sealed his fate. He is not at the required level for an intercounty keeper and indeed Kealy would be a good bit ahead of him.
But expect Shane Ryan and Murphy to battle it out next season for the number 1 jersey.
Would David Clifford be worth a try? Too late. Ciarraíabú has already made this joke!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Oct 17, 2018 13:27:58 GMT
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Post by A.N. Other on Oct 17, 2018 14:25:47 GMT
Fair play to him. Hopefully it works out for him, that rules him out of the full back debate anyway.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Oct 17, 2018 14:58:04 GMT
Fair play to him. Hopefully it works out for him, that rules him out of the full back debate anyway. Some people like to discuss these things even after a player goes.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Oct 17, 2018 15:03:39 GMT
Not surprised to be honest. Wishing them both well. Hoping we can keep on to a few others.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Oct 17, 2018 15:16:56 GMT
In my opinion he is a big loss. Very dissapointing to see another one of our top talents be taken away from us. Look best of luck to him out there but it is very upsetting that we will not get to see a player that could have had a great career in the green and gold jersey (not saying he definetly would have) play for us. Hopefully no more are taken from us or it could take All Irelands away from us.
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Post by southward on Oct 17, 2018 16:43:17 GMT
F*cks sake Are we doomed to never have a full-back again?
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Oct 17, 2018 16:49:49 GMT
In my opinion he is a big loss. Very dissapointing to see another one of our top talents be taken away from us. Look best of luck to him out there but it is very upsetting that we will not get to see a player that could have had a great career in the green and gold jersey (not saying he definetly would have) play for us. Hopefully no more are taken from us or it could take All Irelands away from us. It is hurting almost every single county in the country. You'd hope Kerry can get on with the task at hand rather than wallow.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 19:21:45 GMT
Fair play to him. Hopefully it works out for him, that rules him out of the full back debate anyway. Definitely not, he is now about to become the best defender in the county.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Oct 17, 2018 19:53:01 GMT
Is the absence of Sam in Kerry the last few years making the lure of the AFL bigger than usual? Derry, Louth, Laois and so on have been very unlucky with some of their best players moving down south and having little chance of winning Sam is probably a factor in that. The AFL doesn't seem to have the same pull in Dublin at the moment even though they have a huge player pool and plenty of young talent.
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Post by dc84 on Oct 17, 2018 19:57:42 GMT
Is the absence of Sam in Kerry the last few years making the lure of the AFL bigger than usual? Derry, Louth, Laois and so on have been very unlucky with some of their best players moving down south and having little chance of winning Sam is probably a factor in that. The AFL doesn't seem to have the same pull in Dublin at the moment even though they have a huge player pool and plenty of young talent. Just simple economics id imagine way easier make a good living up here tbf. Financially doesnt make as much sense to make the move and the risks associated.also maybe thr scouting is better in kerry...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 20:06:20 GMT
Dublin lost a guy recently enough to Afl I think. They also lose a lot more to soccer and rugby.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Oct 17, 2018 20:07:48 GMT
F*cks sake Are we doomed to never have a full-back again? I dont think this is a real set back in our attempts to find one to be honest.
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Post by gbbuei on Oct 18, 2018 5:11:11 GMT
F*cks sake Are we doomed to never have a full-back again? I dont think this is a real set back in our attempts to find one to be honest. We won five All-Ireland Minors with 5 different full backs, none of them Stefan, with due respect. So maybe we can find one from that batch of actual full backs as opposed to a converted one? I didn't even think Stefan was a full back until I saw him in the U20s this year. Admittedly I wouldn't be familiar with what his best natural position is.
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Post by dc84 on Oct 18, 2018 7:14:55 GMT
F*cks sake Are we doomed to never have a full-back again? I dont think this is a real set back in our attempts to find one to be honest. I dont really see all that much wrong with jason foley to be honest he is young yet
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Post by Galway breeze on Oct 18, 2018 8:16:17 GMT
Is their truth on D Clifford going for surgery? Is this going to set him back a few years similar to J Donoghue. K Macarthy not good news I think. Not looking good for the foreseeable future with player injured and going to AFL.
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 18, 2018 8:52:25 GMT
I dont think this is a real set back in our attempts to find one to be honest. We won five All-Ireland Minors with 5 different full backs, none of them Stefan, with due respect. So maybe we can find one from that batch of actual full backs as opposed to a converted one? I didn't even think Stefan was a full back until I saw him in the U20s this year. Admittedly I wouldn't be familiar with what his best natural position is. Agreed. People are getting a bit carried away. Keep in mind he wasn't a started with the minors the year he was on the panel. He's always been better out the field any time i've seen him. Was good for the U20's in the Munster final but struggled in the semi-final. In this years Junior final he also played much better when he moved out. Jason Foley is the best option IMO, just needs more game time. This year will have brought him on and another league campaign next year will also help
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Post by yellowbelly on Oct 18, 2018 9:25:19 GMT
Is their truth on D Clifford going for surgery? Is this going to set him back a few years similar to J Donoghue. K Macarthy not good news I think. Not looking good for the foreseeable future with player injured and going to AFL. Confirmed on Radio Kerry a few mins ago Going for shoulder operation after East Kerrys involvement in County Championship Out for 15 weeks after
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Oct 18, 2018 11:06:10 GMT
Is their truth on D Clifford going for surgery? Is this going to set him back a few years similar to J Donoghue. K Macarthy not good news I think. Not looking good for the foreseeable future with player injured and going to AFL. Confirmed on Radio Kerry a few mins ago Going for shoulder operation after East Kerrys involvement in County Championship Out for 15 weeks after As long as he comes back as good as he was. Might be no bad thing in the long run. Can't be totally reliant on an U20 all the time. Time for the likes of JOD and Geaney to step back up to the plate in the league
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