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Post by inchperfect on Jun 10, 2016 14:20:26 GMT
I assume that the game won't be televised? RTÉ One: Donegal v Fermanagh (Throw-in 2.00pm) Roscommon v Sligo (Throw-in 4.00pm) RTÉ Two and TV3 showing the Euros instead.
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Post by keane on Jun 10, 2016 18:19:06 GMT
Longer than 12 or 13 years? Suspect we may get a few surprises tonight in any case. I believe that Brian Kelly will be restored to goalkeeping duties with O'Beaglaoi, Morley & Enright as his full back line!! Full forward line of Darran, Paul Geaney & O'Brien! The two boys are wing backs interestingly. Correct on the rest although you haven't given an exhaustive list either!
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Post by kerrysupporter on Jun 10, 2016 19:22:08 GMT
Kelly Enright Griffen Young Begley Crowley Morley Donaghy Sheehan, Murphy Cooper Walsh Darran P Geaney O' Brien
From a reliable source!
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Post by Leathama on Jun 10, 2016 19:59:44 GMT
The team, captained by Bryan Sheehan is as follows:
1. Brian Kelly Killarney Legion
2. Shane Enright Tarbert
3. Mark Griffin St Michaels/Foilmore
4. Killian Young Renard
5. Brian Ó Beaglaoich An Ghaeltacht
6. Peter Crowley Laune Rangers
7. Tadhg Morley Templenoe
8. Kieran Donaghy Austin Stacks
9. Bryan Sheehan (C) St Marys
10. Paul Murphy Rathmore
11. Colm Cooper Dr Crokes
12. Donnchadh Walsh Cromane
13. Darran O’Sullivan Glenbeigh-Glencar
14. Paul Geaney Dingle
15. Stephen O’Brien Kenmare
Fir Ionaid:
16. Brendan Kealy Kilcummin
17. David Moran Kerins O’Rahillys
18. Marc Ó Sé An Ghaeltacht
19. Fionn Fitzgerald Dr Crokes
20. Barry John Keane Kerins O’Rahillys
21. Michael Geaney Dingle
22. Jonathan Lyne Killarney Legion
23. Anthony Maher Duagh
24. Padraig O’Connor Killarney Legion
25. Alan Fitzgerald Castlegregory
26. Mark O’Connor Dingle
Interestingly, 15 different clubs represented on the starting 15 - first time in a very long time I suspect.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jun 10, 2016 20:36:46 GMT
Surprised that Savage wasnt brought in, also surprised that we havent seen at least one young forward given a chance as the forward line looks a bit stale to me
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 20:55:07 GMT
Certainly not what I expected.
The backs have been significantly shaken up. Surprised Sheehan & Donaghy both start. They should do fine the next day but hard to see what they would against Dublin. The forwards is fairly predictable but jod and Buckley still to come in.
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Post by givehimaball on Jun 10, 2016 21:04:50 GMT
Aidan O'Mahoney - Suspended James O'Donoghue - Injured Johnny Buckley - Injured Brendan O’Sullivan - Injured Denis Daly - Injured
Lads who have been involved in training/with the panel Barry O’Sullivan Tom O’Sullivan Killian Spillane Gavin Crowley Andrew Barry - Leaving Cert Gavin White - Leaving Cert Jason Foley - Injured Michael Burns - Injured
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Post by gamechanger10 on Jun 10, 2016 21:23:05 GMT
Kerrysupporter, Far be it for me to tell you how to post, but posting "reliable sources" and naming a perfectly accurate team could be seen as naive maybe even stupid in the eyes of some. When I say some I include myself.. Sharp posting Scoobydoo
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Post by Fado on Jun 10, 2016 21:34:45 GMT
Accurate???
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Post by Premier on Jun 10, 2016 21:53:40 GMT
Aidan O'Mahoney - Suspended James O'Donoghue - Injured Johnny Buckley - Injured Brendan O’Sullivan - Injured Denis Daly - Injured Lads who have been involved in training/with the panel Barry O’Sullivan Tom O’Sullivan Killian Spillane Gavin Crowley Andrew Barry - Leaving Cert Gavin White - Leaving Cert Jason Foley - Injured Michael Burns - Injured Most disappointed for Brendan Sullivan. Originally thought the injury was innocuous enough and now hasn't played since league final
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Post by kerryexile on Jun 10, 2016 22:55:27 GMT
I would agree with most of the team.
I can not understand why Young is in there. If (when?) we meet Dublin players like Flynn or Connolly will go past him like he didn't exist. Maybe Eamonn has his own agenda.
The question could be asked "What would O'Beaglaoich do against them?" He is tigerish and, for all their athleticism, he would force them to play the ball under pressure. And that's where Dublin can be found out.
Taking it that Moran's position is a straight forward dropping I am not very surprised. He does not turn possession into attacks. No doubt he will be back.
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Post by Hicser on Jun 11, 2016 1:27:52 GMT
Ok, look at half back line, 2 new lads either side with Crowley, Griffen full back, that's a new defence, now let's see what we concede against Clare. If Dubln are to beat us they have to go through us, youth in half backs is great, mid you have to say is old but experienced, up front look at the individuals, they are not so bad! So what's the missing link?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2016 1:34:20 GMT
Interesting to see how Morley does. Kerry badly need backs. Can't see that midfield being the midfield against Cork for the Final. Would not be surprised if Mark O'Connor gets a run on Sunday.
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Post by wayupnorth on Jun 11, 2016 5:30:35 GMT
Interesting team. Shake up of defence in response to League Final and it will indeed be interesting to see how the half back line fare. O Beaglaoich has already proved his mettle as one of the few bright sparks in the opening League games and he should be able to push on. How they supply our potentially devastating forward lines will also be worth looking out for as that has been a real problem in the recent past. Surprised to see Killian so far back but with Marc kicking his heels on the bench would expect a rapid change here if it's not working out.
I agree that midfield will not outlive this game but what to do with Brian and Kieran is going to be a real problem - the former for the captaincy and the long range frees the latter for his mercurial form. Maher probably not fit enough for a start yet but will surely challenge, Moran dropped to the bench but can redeem himself.
Forwards exciting as ever and Eamon keeping faith in Paul in this position is justified. Let's hope that the talent is reflected in the score line. With James still to come back and Barry John (who I think is always better from the bench than starting) we have no shortage of options here. And that bench would cause sleepless nights for many a first team.
Unfortunately I won't be able to travel to this one but Radio Kerry will be blaring in the heart of Antrim. Who needs the Euros when the Kingdom takes to the field!
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Post by Deise Exile on Jun 11, 2016 6:20:57 GMT
What's the story with JOD? I can't see him having any impact on this years champsionship with no game time and lack of match fitness
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Post by Premier on Jun 11, 2016 7:12:17 GMT
I would agree with most of the team. I can not understand why Young is in there. If (when?) we meet Dublin players like Flynn or Connolly will go past him like he didn't exist. Maybe Eamonn has his own agenda. The question could be asked "What would O'Beaglaoich do against them?" He is tigerish and, for all their athleticism, he would force them to play the ball under pressure. And that's where Dublin can be found out. Taking it that Moran's position is a straight forward dropping I am not very surprised. He does not turn possession into attacks. No doubt he will be back. You'd swear Killian was horrendous slow. Anyone that has seen him play corner back in this year's county championship knows he is a brilliant man marker, with all the requisite skills to play out if the ball breaks down
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jun 11, 2016 9:33:40 GMT
I would agree with most of the team. I can not understand why Young is in there. If (when?) we meet Dublin players like Flynn or Connolly will go past him like he didn't exist. Maybe Eamonn has his own agenda. The question could be asked "What would O'Beaglaoich do against them?" He is tigerish and, for all their athleticism, he would force them to play the ball under pressure. And that's where Dublin can be found out. Taking it that Moran's position is a straight forward dropping I am not very surprised. He does not turn possession into attacks. No doubt he will be back. You'd swear Killian was horrendous slow. Anyone that has seen him play corner back in this year's county championship knows he is a brilliant man marker, with all the requisite skills to play out if the ball breaks down Its interesting that this is a talking point alongside the talk of BJK starting- all in light of the first round championship match recently where Young did a very, very good job nullifying Keane
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 11, 2016 10:20:13 GMT
I would agree with most of the team. I can not understand why Young is in there. If (when?) we meet Dublin players like Flynn or Connolly will go past him like he didn't exist. Maybe Eamonn has his own agenda. The question could be asked "What would O'Beaglaoich do against them?" He is tigerish and, for all their athleticism, he would force them to play the ball under pressure. And that's where Dublin can be found out. Taking it that Moran's position is a straight forward dropping I am not very surprised. He does not turn possession into attacks. No doubt he will be back. You'd swear Killian was horrendous slow. Anyone that has seen him play corner back in this year's county championship knows he is a brilliant man marker, with all the requisite skills to play out if the ball breaks downDid he develop these skills recently as his inability to solo the ball while running without losing it or slipping was always his biggest weakness
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Post by inchperfect on Jun 11, 2016 10:29:35 GMT
The defence looks odd, just because of the positions the players are playing in. I would've arranged those players as:
Begley.......Griffin.....Enright Crowley.....Morley.....Young
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 11, 2016 10:33:34 GMT
You'd swear Killian was horrendous slow. Anyone that has seen him play corner back in this year's county championship knows he is a brilliant man marker, with all the requisite skills to play out if the ball breaks downDid he develop these skills recently as his inability to solo the ball while running without losing it or slipping was always his biggest weakness That was rectified as far as I can see. I don't see those very high solos anymore.
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Post by hatchetman on Jun 11, 2016 10:34:55 GMT
What are Morleys strengths for those of us who haven't seen him play?
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Post by givehimaball on Jun 11, 2016 11:38:01 GMT
The defence looks odd, just because of the positions the players are playing in. I would've arranged those players as: Begley.......Griffin.....Enright Crowley.....Morley.....Young Reading the lineup I just automatically assumed that Begley and Young would be switching places between the wing-back and corner-back spots. I'd have Crowley at centre-back, given it's Morley's first start and with Donaghy and Sheehan in midfield. We shall see soon enough I suppose.
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Post by hugh20 on Jun 11, 2016 11:40:51 GMT
What's the story with JOD? I can't see him having any impact on this years champsionship with no game time and lack of match fitness Supposedly Eamonn Fitz has given James the go ahead to play some part in the County league fixture between Crokes and Legion tomorrow at noon in Crokes pitch.
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Post by givehimaball on Jun 11, 2016 11:40:57 GMT
You'd swear Killian was horrendous slow. Anyone that has seen him play corner back in this year's county championship knows he is a brilliant man marker, with all the requisite skills to play out if the ball breaks down Its interesting that this is a talking point alongside the talk of BJK starting- all in light of the first round championship match recently where Young did a very, very good job nullifying Keane No harm to have someone in there who is coming off a flyer of a game in the championship - there's a couple of others who are in there who were only very average in recent club games.
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Post by givehimaball on Jun 11, 2016 12:18:13 GMT
What's the story with JOD? I can't see him having any impact on this years champsionship with no game time and lack of match fitness Supposedly Eamonn Fitz has given James the go ahead to play some part in the County league fixture between Crokes and Legion tomorrow at noon in Crokes pitch. Will be a case off eating the Sunday Dinner pretty much straight after the breakfast for a few folk around Killarney tomorrow so.
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Post by taggert on Jun 11, 2016 12:27:31 GMT
It doesn't matter where Young plays against Dublin, he will be blown away quickly and easily. The evidence is there from all our recent games against the dubs. He has neither the power nor the aggression for that level of contest. Doing a number on BJK is one thing but BJK has resemebled an u14 player on the few occasions he has taken to the field against Dublin. However, as its Clare tomorrow, none of this will be apparent.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jun 11, 2016 12:44:43 GMT
It doesn't matter where Young plays against Dublin, he will be blown away quickly and easily. The evidence is there from all our recent games against the dubs. He has neither the power nor the aggression for that level of contest. Doing a number on BJK is one thing but BJK has resemebled an u14 player on the few occasions he has taken to the field against Dublin. However, as its Clare tomorrow, none of this will be apparent. I think you're being a bit harsh on Young here- also we are bedding in 2 new backs and that will give us additional options when we get to play teams later in the championship and maybe when we come against Dub then he might not be chosen as the right horse, etc. I'm more worried about the staleness from 8 onwards- if we play with that midfield against anyone in Croker then we'll be in serious trouble. The forwards are all very known quantities aswell so saw that selection as a bit disappointing.
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Post by taggert on Jun 11, 2016 12:52:16 GMT
Fair enough. Will sgree to disagree. I am pleased with 2 new backs but a tad dissappoinred that J Lyne has not kicked on to nail down a place - his cameo against Mayo in Limerick in 2014 suggested that here was a guy that had the lot (pace, power, aggression, kicking). Perhaps injuries and/or loss of form a factor.
Not sure there are any better forwards currently available - the u21s would suggest there are not.
I do think Kerry ought to be trying out a runner in midfield for battles down the line. The days of the big boned 8 and 9 are surely behind us.....
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 11, 2016 14:03:55 GMT
Whatever about aggression, I am fairly sure somebody telling me that Young was the strongest person in there, in terms of core strength.
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Post by keane on Jun 11, 2016 14:04:47 GMT
Yeah * Brendan O'Sullivan for being injured anyway! If he was fit and we picked Sheehan and Donaghy as our midfield pair for this game I think I'd pack it in.
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