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Post by onlykerry on Apr 13, 2016 9:06:47 GMT
I'll field that one. Obviously not as strong in the middle of the field. There may be a temptation yet to look at Billy Courtney there. Bryan Sweeney another option if his injury clears up fully. Up front there is a lot of talent, Clifford will take over Geaneys role as the "go to" forward. Some good backs there too but maybe a few question makes over the full back line compared to the full back line of the last two years. They are more or less guaranteed a place in the All Ireland quarter final and I'm sure no other team in the county will fancy playing them at that stage. I woulndt be a bit surprised to see them go all the way. I agree buck...Clifford role will be instrumental in playing in a Conor Geaney type role.Don't think we will see much changes to team in next few matches.Tommy Griffin has done a lot of work with this crop and am sure he knows what cards to play.The experience of these under 17's from last year will stand the rest and then lads deserve a place on starting 15.I know the Sem guys on the bench have done well this year but the older more experienced 17's will be that bit cuter and more experienced for later in the competition.Dara Moynihan,Clifford, and Naughthon are exceptional.Well deserved of their place after the Sems exploits.I think Shaw will be kept for later in the Competition and Courtney could be utilised as a man to bring on at any stage.Interesting he's named at number 16 as this is usually used as second keeper.Potts and co may have to settle for the bench this year. I think there will be competition for places and this could be the strength of this years team - six of the non starters (for various reasons) were involved with last years panel and they will be chomping at the bit for some action as the season develops. Looking forward to watching this crop push for honours .....
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Post by leeside on Apr 13, 2016 9:23:33 GMT
I agree buck...Clifford role will be instrumental in playing in a Conor Geaney type role.Don't think we will see much changes to team in next few matches.Tommy Griffin has done a lot of work with this crop and am sure he knows what cards to play.The experience of these under 17's from last year will stand the rest and then lads deserve a place on starting 15.I know the Sem guys on the bench have done well this year but the older more experienced 17's will be that bit cuter and more experienced for later in the competition.Dara Moynihan,Clifford, and Naughthon are exceptional.Well deserved of their place after the Sems exploits.I think Shaw will be kept for later in the Competition and Courtney could be utilised as a man to bring on at any stage.Interesting he's named at number 16 as this is usually used as second keeper.Potts and co may have to settle for the bench this year. I think there will be competition for places and this could be the strength of this years team - six of the non starters (for various reasons) were involved with last years panel and they will be chomping at the bit for some action as the season develops. Looking forward to watching this crop push for honours ..... Well best of luck to Peter,Tommy,James,Podge & Chris and to the whole panel. May you have a fruitful and exciting year ahead and hope they can bring The Tommy Markham home for a third year.Enjoy the experience.The whole of The Kingdom are behind you..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2016 10:13:39 GMT
Second that
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Post by seamus on Apr 13, 2016 10:43:29 GMT
The influence of Mark O'Connor at midfield on the last two teams cannot be underestimated. Himself and Barry O'Sullivan were the best minor midfield combination I have seen. It is a serious platform for any team to start with.
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 13, 2016 10:57:18 GMT
The influence of Mark O'Connor at midfield on the last two teams cannot be underestimated. Himself and Barry O'Sullivan were the best minor midfield combination I have seen. It is a serious platform for any team to start with. And if both were fully fit would also have given Kerry the platform to win last weeks Muster u21 final. If fit, Mark O'Connor could possibly play senior championship this year at wing forward.
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Post by greengold35 on Apr 13, 2016 12:33:29 GMT
Potentially this is as good a team as any of the last 2 winning teams; we could not be as strong at midfield given the performances of Mark O'Connor and Barry O'Sullivan but overall think we may have more outstanding players - for instance, David Clifford would almost certainly have been involved last year but for the rule forbidding U-16s participating in inter county minor teams; Collins at full back is a serious operator as is Friel at corner forward- the strength of the panel is exemplified by only 4 of the 11 eligible Sem boys starting; think that as we progress we will see the likes of Sweeney, Shaw & Linnane forcing their way into the team- the SK U-16 development squad of last year conquered all comers in Munster with Clifford and Friel being their stand out men- its a big step up to minor from U-16 but with the SEM boys already having had the taste of All Ireland glory I expect a lot from this side.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2016 15:02:22 GMT
I agree it's a strong panel. Midfield is not as strong as the other two years but the Forwards and backs are as good if not better. Players like Shane Foley Michael Heaphy Aaron Morris Connie O'Connor Fergal Ryan Niall O Mahoney Cian Gamel JJ Herlihy Chris O'Donoghue Peter McCarthy Patrick Daly Fiachra Clifford Patrick Moriarty Iarla Courtney Gearoid Savage. 15 players that didnt even make the extended panel. Good players.
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Post by glengael on Apr 13, 2016 17:14:28 GMT
Best of luck to team and management tonight. Safe journey to all of you on the road. I was in Cork today and some of the showers were monsoon like, hopefully it wasn't quite as bad further east. CIARRAI ABU............
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Post by giveitinlowhigh on Apr 13, 2016 18:19:35 GMT
Doesn't look like we'll learn much at all from this performance tonight at the rate it's going!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2016 18:27:28 GMT
Total mismatch
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Post by scart on Apr 13, 2016 19:49:51 GMT
The influence of Mark O'Connor at midfield on the last two teams cannot be underestimated. Himself and Barry O'Sullivan were the best minor midfield combination I have seen. It is a serious platform for any team to start with. And if both were fully fit would also have given Kerry the platform to win last weeks Muster u21 final. If fit, Mark O'Connor could possibly play senior championship this year at wing forward. The most wreckless thing that has been said on this forum recently, and that's saying something. No doubting Mark's potential but in fairness he's a long way off championship standard yet
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Post by wkfootball on Apr 13, 2016 19:58:46 GMT
Take it handy Kerrygold, Mark is 19, and hasn't played a full game since october. I don't think he'll be replacing Donnacha Walsh or Buckley for at half forward at all...
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Post by brosna11 on Apr 13, 2016 20:02:19 GMT
Take it handy Kerrygold, Mark is 19, and hasn't played a full game since october. I don't think he'll be replacing Donnacha Walsh or Buckley for at half forward at all... Have to agree with you here. This is the kind of attitude that causes young fellas to be suffering from burnout but that's for another thread.
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Post by southward on Apr 13, 2016 20:03:19 GMT
2-21 to 1-2 at FT. That's a 22 point defeat at home for Waterford. Even allowing that hurling is their game, that's really poor.
Went to see Kerry/Waterford at U-21 a couple of years ago. I think the margin was 30 points on that occasion. In fairness, they can't be putting much into it at all.
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Post by southward on Apr 13, 2016 20:14:25 GMT
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Post by cool1 on Apr 13, 2016 20:45:22 GMT
Kerry will play Clare in the semi after they had a 1 point win. Cork struggled against Tipperary also and will probably end up playing them again in the other semi.
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Post by leesider on Apr 13, 2016 21:46:56 GMT
Cork struggled against Tipperary also and will probably end up playing them again in the other semi. Yeah it's a complete joke.We will probably have to play them in Thurles too. There's actually no benefit to beating them at all apart from the fact Tipp have to play two extra games (which they will probably win anyway).
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Post by southward on Apr 13, 2016 22:10:47 GMT
Cork struggled against Tipperary also and will probably end up playing them again in the other semi. Yeah it's a complete joke.We will probably have to play them in Thurles too. There's actually no benefit to beating them at all apart from the fact Tipp have to play two extra games (which they will probably win anyway). And those extra games will stand to Tipp, thus disadvantaging Cork even more. The whole structure of the Munster minor championship is bizarre. Lose in the first round - you're grand. Lose in the final - no problem. Lose in both the first round and the final - still ok. But lose in the semi - you're gone.
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Post by Premier on Apr 13, 2016 22:35:05 GMT
Kerry will play Clare in the semi after they had a 1 point win. Cork struggled against Tipperary also and will probably end up playing them again in the other semi. Kerry really fell on their feet this year with the draw. Beat Waterford and Clare and you're gaureented football until the August bank holiday no matter how the final goes
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 14, 2016 8:07:10 GMT
And if both were fully fit would also have given Kerry the platform to win last weeks Muster u21 final. If fit, Mark O'Connor could possibly play senior championship this year at wing forward. The most wreckless thing that has been said on this forum recently, and that's saying something. No doubting Mark's potential but in fairness he's a long way off championship standard yet Keep your kacks on, I'm not calling for Mark to be included on the Kerry team or panel. I'm just saying that he is possibly or potentially is good enough to play senior championship this year if fully fit and injury free. In my opinion he sees the game in the same way a young gooch read the game as a 19 year old. His game is built of awareness/game intelligence rather than or in contrast to brawn. Looking in from the outside that is what I see in the player.
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 14, 2016 8:09:06 GMT
Kerry will play Clare in the semi after they had a 1 point win. Cork struggled against Tipperary also and will probably end up playing them again in the other semi. Kerry really fell on their feet this year with the draw. Beat Waterford and Clare and you're gaureented football until the August bank holiday no matter how the final goes Kerry had to win a do or die game against Cork last year early in the competition.
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Post by leeside on Apr 14, 2016 8:42:58 GMT
Kerry really fell on their feet this year with the draw. Beat Waterford and Clare and you're gaureented football until the August bank holiday no matter how the final goes Kerry had to win a do or die game against Cork last year early in the competition. They played a team last night that were made up of hurlers.Of course they can only play what is thrown at them.Workmanlike performance.Hope Naughton is ok.Its a steady start for management and hope all players got home safe with no injuries.Is this forum now turning into a Mark O Connor Forum ?.Ridiculous really..Any stand outs from last night's win.Had the tough side of draw last year,nothing is easy in championship football.Cork have a serious Operator in Damien Gore.Scored 8 last night and pulled Tipp apart.They will be a force in this year's tournament.Interplay amongst their half forwards and midfield were exceptional from reports. Let's all see what happens..
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Post by onlykerry on Apr 14, 2016 9:14:55 GMT
Limerick minor footballers pay for wides in Clare defeat Report by Jerome O’Connell for the Limerick Leader newspaper THE Limerick minor footballers were defeated 0-9 to 1-5 in the opening round of the Munster MFC this Wednesday evening by Clare in Miltown Malbay. It’s the fourth successive season that Clare have beaten Limerick in the minor football grade. The loss means Limerick will play Tipperary on Wednesday April 20th in the backdoor series. The Jerry O’Sullivan managed Limerick kicked 12 costly second half wides. Despite of the wides the game seemed destined for extra time until a 58th minute winner from Clare’s Joseph McGann. In front of an attendance of 676, Limerick won the toss and opted to play against the elements and Clare were 0-6 to 1-1 ahead after playing with the aid of the breeze in the opening half. It was a 30-minutes that was mostly played in driving rain and made underfoot conditions and handling slippery for both sides. Clare dominated the early stages and were 0-4 to no score ahead after 16-minutes with tricky full forward Joseph McGann leading their line. Centre back Adam Kearns opened the Limerick account in the 20th minute when he surged forward to point. Three minutes later Limerick had a goal. Noel Callinan had the initial shot, which was saved by Mark Lillis but James Ryan crashed the rebound to the net from close range. But Limerick failed to build on the goal and Clare had the final two points of the half for a two point interval lead. It could have been different had a 27th minute shot from Eoin O’Mahony found the net but it was kept out by a combination of goalkeeper and upright. It was a half in which Clare kicked five wides and Limerick just three. Limerick bossed the opening stages of the second half and were ahead at the mid-point of the half with two fine Eoin O’Mahony points and the lead score from Adam Storan. But back came Clare with their first scores of the half in the 17th minute. A 56th minute Conor O’Grady free tied up the game again but then came the late Clare winner. SCORERS: Limerick: James Ryan 1-0, Eoin O’Mahony 0-2, Adam Kearns, Adam Storan and Conor O’Grady (free) 0-1 each. Clare: Joseph McGann and Padraig Kelly (3frees) 0-3 each, Dermot Coughlan 0-2, Sean Rouine 0-1. LIMERICK: Aaron Murphy (Fr Caseys); Gearoid Brennan (Claughaun), Fionn Murphy (Kilteely-Dromkeen), Daniel Enright (Monaleen); Seamus Hurley (Newcastle West), Adam Kearns (St Senans), Oran Collins (Adare); Josh Ryan (Oola), Diarmaid Kelly (Newcastle West); Eoin O’Mahony (Ballylanders), Colm McSweeney (Gearld Griffins), Noel Callinan (St Kierans); Anthony Barrett (Kilmallock), Adam Storan (Mungret St Pauls), James Ryan (Athea) Subs: Conor O’Grady (Hospital-Herbertstown) for Noel Callinan (28mins), Sean Ryan (Athea) for Anthony Barrett, inj (52mins), Eoghan Carew (Monaleen) for Oran Collins (56mins), Darragh Ranahan (Ballysteen) for James Ryan (62mins). CLARE: Mark Lillis (Cooraclare); Peter Collins (Doora-Barefield), Jonah Culligan (Ballyvaughan), Damien O’Loughlin (Corofin); Cillian Flaherty (Kilmurry Ibrickane), Andrew Shannon (Kilmurry Ibrickane), Rowan Danaher (St Breckans); Darragh Bohannon (Shannon Gaels), Padraig Kelly (St Breckans); Ross O’Doherty (Ennistymon), Ciaran O’Donoghue (Cooraclare), Dermot Coughlan (Kilmurry Ibrickane); Sean Rouine (Ennistymon), Joseph McGann (St Breckans), Gavin Cooney (Eire Og) Subs: Tom Hannon (Doora-Barefield) for Andrew Shannon, b-c (39mins), Danny Griffin (Eire Og) for Darragh Bohannon, inj (45mins), Conor Lynch (Clondegad) for Ross O’Doherty (55mins), Diarmuid Meade (Miltown Malbay) for Gavin Cooney (62mins). REFEREE: David Murnane (Cork)
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Post by onlykerry on Apr 14, 2016 9:16:34 GMT
Kerry Play Clare on 11/May at a Clare venue - presumably Miltown Malbay. Game against Limerick was played in poor conditions and Clare only managed three points from play it seems.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2016 10:13:32 GMT
It looks like McGann at full forward is their main man.
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Post by lad on Apr 14, 2016 10:32:11 GMT
Last night's game was a worthless exercise for both teams. For Waterford, a hurling county, a hammering like that will do them no good but let's imagine our minor hurlers playing their minor hurlers, I reckon it would be a similar result against us. I still would be in favour of a B championship for the weaker counties as Kerry minors hurlers won a B All Ireland last year which was great for those lads! Kerry's shooting was very impressive last night particularly early on. Kerry had the breeze and despite Waterford playing a sweeper, Kerry just shot from distance and all of their first 10 shots in the opening 10 minutes all went over and despite little or no pressure on the shots, it's still impressive! This is what you need against a sweeper system and it bodes well for the rest of the year. Thew midfield was impressive and cleaned out Waterford but the calibre of opposition has to be taken into account here. But it wasn't a test and there is a long road ahead hopefully! Speaking of long roads, getting lads to travel from Dingle to Dungarvan on a school night is ridiculous. By the time the team has had a meal and made their way back to Killarney, the Dingle lads still have an hours drive! I reckon it was well after 1 when these lads arrived home.
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Post by scart on Apr 14, 2016 14:17:00 GMT
Kerry had to win a do or die game against Cork last year early in the competition. They played a team last night that were made up of hurlers.Of course they can only play what is thrown at them.Workmanlike performance.Hope Naughton is ok.Its a steady start for management and hope all players got home safe with no injuries.Is this forum now turning into a Mark O Connor Forum ?.Ridiculous really..Any stand outs from last night's win.Had the tough side of draw last year,nothing is easy in championship football.Cork have a serious Operator in Damien Gore.Scored 8 last night and pulled Tipp apart.They will be a force in this year's tournament.Interplay amongst their half forwards and midfield were exceptional from reports. Let's all see what happens.. Exactly leeside, can we try and focus on the lads currently involved in the set up instead of living off past glorys. I agree, Gore was extremely impressive last night and I was also very impressed by the other corner forward Mark Buckley showed great accuracy kicking 5 or 6 points from play i think it was.
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Post by onlykerry on Apr 14, 2016 15:06:40 GMT
Were Cork's backs that good or were Tipp's forwards poor? Only four points from the Tipp forwards with the midfielders being the main scoring threat it seems (full back and wing back also scored). In contrast all Cork scores came from 4 forwards with the two corners contributing 13 points between them (8 from play).
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Post by leeside on Apr 14, 2016 15:19:02 GMT
Not too sure really.Maybe Cork backs were too good for the Tipp forwards.Anyway just said id put it out there to see if anyone was maybe at the match.Cork were desperate unlucky against kerry lady year in tralee and only for Mike Breen we could have been licking our wounds.Don't think they will lie down either this year.Sleeping Giant comes to mind,but hopefully not. Who stood out for us last night in Dungarvan ? Any word on David Naughtons injury ? Big loss if it's serious. He's some grafter with a great brain for the game.
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Post by onlykerry on Apr 14, 2016 15:22:33 GMT
Not too sure really.Maybe Cork backs were too good for the Tipp forwards.Anyway just said id put it out there to see if anyone was maybe at the match.Cork were desperate unlucky against kerry lady year in tralee and only for Mike Breen we could have been licking our wounds.Don't think they will lie down either this year.Sleeping Giant comes to mind,but hopefully not. Who stood out for us last night in Dungarvan ? Any word on David Naughtons injury ? Big loss if it's serious. He's some grafter with a great brain for the game. Would hope his injury is not too serious - was told physio worked on him on the field and he resumed his position but was called ashore shortly thereafter and he walked off the park under his own steam.
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