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Post by dashboard10 on Mar 16, 2015 11:07:03 GMT
Possibly his main challenger would be a team mate of his must be something in the water back there
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Post by donegalman on Mar 16, 2015 11:55:25 GMT
You are all correct in your assessment of Paddy Mc Brearty, he is our star man this year, and possibly last too. He didnt start last year bar the derry game. I can see him running amok if he is given the correct supply of ball. I also think that the Monaghan game last weekend has bucked us up in terms of the failure of the system.
The camera angle didnt show the Murphy incident with any clarity can anyone else comment on its severity?
I think that Walsh is going to struggle this year with the talent that youse have, to get his place. I thought this was a potential issue when he came back from oz last oct, I honestly believe that his lack of form, coupled with Galvin's return to training is a perfect distraction for journalists to take a lot of the heat of other kerry players. (not to mention the Gooch story)!!
Monaghan in 2 weeks should be easy enough for you. I think that they will defo bring their A game with them, but you have had an ideal league campaign so far, with good wins and a couple of relatively poor performances leaving room for improvement. Perfect combination really.
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Post by playitfair on Mar 16, 2015 11:59:17 GMT
Paddy Mc Brearty is a far better footballer than Michael Murphy. And has a better temprament too Sully have you started the St. Patricks day celebrations early. IMO, that's one comment that's way off the mark. If you could pick one Donegal player to play for your local team it would have to be Murphy. Michael Murphy is a class footballer who has performed time & again for his county, furthermore he strikes me a very classy individual. Remember him waiting for all the Kerry players to come down the steps & individually congratulate them. Great touch.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 16, 2015 12:17:33 GMT
You are all correct in your assessment of Paddy Mc Brearty, he is our star man this year, and possibly last too. He didnt start last year bar the derry game. I can see him running amok if he is given the correct supply of ball. I also think that the Monaghan game last weekend has bucked us up in terms of the failure of the system. The camera angle didnt show the Murphy incident with any clarity can anyone else comment on its severity? I think that Walsh is going to struggle this year with the talent that youse have, to get his place. I thought this was a potential issue when he came back from oz last oct, I honestly believe that his lack of form, coupled with Galvin's return to training is a perfect distraction for journalists to take a lot of the heat of other kerry players. (not to mention the Gooch story)!! Monaghan in 2 weeks should be easy enough for you. I think that they will defo bring their A game with them, but you have had an ideal league campaign so far, with good wins and a couple of relatively poor performances leaving room for improvement. Perfect combination really. they should play him at CHF and get him centrally involved and where his quick hands, a skill honed in Oz, will be of most use. He showed little flashes of that yesterday. He will kick a few points from there too and the confidence will come into his kicking then
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Post by Jigz84 on Mar 16, 2015 14:29:17 GMT
Not much to add to all of the above comments on the game. Ticking over nicely with two more tough games to come. Pa Kilkenny has been disappointing so far. Our lack of an alternative placed ball kicker to Sheehan is worrying too.
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Post by townend on Mar 16, 2015 15:20:03 GMT
David Moran is one of the best midfielders in the game, super game on sunday, Tommy Walsh needs game time i would play him centre forward for the rest of the league and Brian Sheehan needs a rest.
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Post by keane on Mar 16, 2015 15:24:09 GMT
How could any intercounty player need a rest six weeks into the season? A rest is the last thing Sheehan of all players needs.
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Post by fitz on Mar 16, 2015 15:38:03 GMT
David Moran is one of the best midfielders in the game, super game on sunday, Tommy Walsh needs game time i would play him centre forward for the rest of the league and Brian Sheehan needs a rest. I don't know Town, Bryan has been injured for long periods since 2011. Not sure how he picked up the rib yesterday, only saw him clutching it after taking another wonder free. Did he get a belt before that? Leaving the rib aside, I'd be playing him in as many full matches as possible. He needs the sharpness. His free taking is sublime and he's now added the ability to nail them under pressure too. re: AI final. Murphy is flawless too. On McBrearty, very powerful player, actually if you get a chance look back on Donegal's first score the circular overlaps from right corner, back out across the Kerry half back line, a couple of 1-2s. Class score. Agree Pa should have been moved off him much earlier. Kilkenny's first two games were poor but he played well against Dublin and one of the better players against Cork. I don't think he "played" badly yesterday, he was just up against a man who is as of now too good for him. Enright to have come in earlier as other indicated. On the Murphy/McBrearty parallel thread, Murphy s equally comfortable on left and right boot. I' haven't see McBrearty shoot of his right side
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Post by veteran on Mar 16, 2015 15:51:22 GMT
When I left Listowel yesterday it was a beautiful day. I could not get over how bitter it was in Tralee. On my way home, I thought my time had come. I was behind a long line of cars being held up by a 40km per hour merchant. Eventually we came to a long stretch of straight road and with nothing coming against us I decided to make my break for freedom. I was careering along nicely when another guy got the same idea and ,obviously without looking in his mirror, decided to pull out as I was overtaking him. I had to swerve a little to avoid him. Swerving when you are going fast is not to be recommended and ,momentarily, I lost control but the man above guided me to safety. Forever grateful.
I was sure that Killian had goaled in the second half when he knifed in from the right corner. So sure was I that I opened my programme to credit him with it. I have not seen it on TV but it must just have been a matter of inches. Indeed, I think KD was rushing in from left corner and he must have been very close to getting a toe to it.
I know I have posed this question before but why was Paddy McBrearty not started in last year's final? Apart from his ability, he is nearly as bulky as Michael Murphy now. Talking about Paddy, I felt one of his points in the second half was wide. The referee consulted with the umpire. Was it referenced on TV?
Am I right in saying that Kerry only got two frees within scoring range in the second half- the penalty and the forty five, which David Moran made a pig's ear of. Talking about David, how can one explain the contrast in his form between the Cork and Donegal games? I suppose one could go further and ask the same question about the entire team.
Has anybody any idea how Bryan Sheehan sustained his injury and the nature of same.
Was Alan Fitzgerald on the last year's panel?
I have never been a fan of Rory Hickey and I always get the impression that he is not a fan of Kerry. He also exudes a certain arrogance, suggesting that he is more important than the players. An undesirable trait.
Regarding some of his decisions yesterday: The Neil Gallagher incident was probably a yellow card rather than a black. It was clumsy and awkward. He swung Stephen O'Brien by the shoulder and his arm eventually finished around his neck. Dangerous but no malice intended ,I imagine. Will Donegal be able to squeeze another year out of this thirty four year old at midfield?
I had a good view of the Michael Murphy incident. The problem for Michael was that he was not favourably positioned to contest that particular ball. By way of contrast, Jonathan was in the path of the ball and it was going to be his. The result was that Michael had to lunge at Jonathan to have any hope of gaining possession. Now if somebody like Ryan McHugh had executed that lunge there would not have been half the furore because Ryan would not be capable of inflicting the damage that his far more powerful colleague would. Another factor about the incident is this. It took place in front of EF. Now Eamon is usually unflappable on the line but he became very agitated over this incident, not surprising I suppose as he watched Jonathan, who is a hardy lad, prostrate on the ground. At the very least, it was a yellow card. A less benign referee might have flashed a red. Certainly, in rugby it would be regarded as taking the man out in the air and almost certainly would have resulted in a red. Speaking of Michael, I was delighted when Donegal moved him out. Just as, I am sure, most opponents are delighted when KD is moved out.
The referee was totally inconsistent in adjudicating a situation where the man in possession was surrounded by a cluster of players. This time it was regarded as over holding, the next time as a foul tackle. Then again, I suppose this happens with most referees. Totally unsatisfactory.
The decision which most enraged me was one I referred to in my report. In the second half, KD was racing back towards his own goal when he was tripped off the ball by ? Neil McGee. Happened directly in the referee's line of vision. He merely ran past the flattened KD and indeed a Donegal point resulted. It was as cynical a foul as one could see and blatant black card offence. This is not an attack on Neil McGee because I have no doubt a Kerry player would act similarly in the same circumstances. But the point is that this is one of the offences for which the black card was introduced.
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Post by keane on Mar 16, 2015 16:06:21 GMT
Am I right in saying that Kerry only got two frees within scoring range in the second half- the penalty and the forty five, which David Moran made a pig's ear of. Talking about David, how can one explain the contrast in his form between the Cork and Donegal games? I suppose one could go further and ask the same question about the entire team. I only got to watch the Cork game on Saturday morning and was absolutely baffled by the criticism Moran got. The whole team got tired with about 15 minutes to go and faded badly, but for about 50/55 minutes Kerry were totally dominant at midfield. Listening to Syl Hennessy's stats on Terrace Talk this afternoon confirmed that as we won 100% of our kickouts in the second half, and something like 80% of them in total while also winning 8 out of 24 of Cork's kickouts (not all of which were out the middle, I suspect not many of them were in fact). He made a balls of a solo at one stage alright.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 16, 2015 16:22:58 GMT
I take your word Vet re Gallagher and fitzwop also had another angle. Eoghan Cormican agrees and buck02 and I are 100% in agreement on Murphy/Lyne. TV showed only a partial clip of the trip but it was typical of what was going on. Ref judged on falls as opposed to who caused it, i.e. knocked or fell themselves, E.g. McFadden fell 'unaided' and got a penalty. Decisions on crowding of man in possession was 100% determined by his jersey colour. Ref was patting Murphy on the back going in at half time so you'd wonder, and it smacks of the arrogance our Vet has picked up on and that is all so uncharacteristic of a man from a Clare.
The angles for Killian's potential shot on goal, like BJK's?, was so much tighter than may have appeared and hope often blinds spectators of what is realistic; defenders will quickly try to block off any ball route to the net and weren't both sides obliged to take points when goals looked obvious to us hurlers on the ditch, bird in the hand etc.
Moran showed symptoms of mental exhaustion v Cork and after Dubs game methinks and that mis-solo proves it for me. Perfectly planned fixtures would have given us more recovery time but the GAA has been known to struggle with fairly straight forward foresight, so mastering hindsight is a bit away, they ain't got The Kerry Ingredient's 6th sense of anticipation.
I'd say yesterday drove fear into anyone doubting our back-to-back claims and we have our rebel neighbours to thank for helping to steady us, excitement has still gone up a notch though!
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Post by donegalman on Mar 16, 2015 16:31:56 GMT
The referee was totally inconsistent in adjudicating a situation where the man in possession was surrounded by a cluster of players. This time it was regarded as over holding, the next time as a foul tackle. Then again, I suppose this happens with most referees. Totally unsatisfactory.
I agree, there is a lot of trouble with this in every game i have seen for the past several years. It seems to be getting more and more difficult to police. Lots of men around a player means he has got to either release the ball or hold on and over carry. The third option, which is to award a free to the grounded player seems to happen when a team are chasing the game. Im not sure how to police this consistently, but no doubt, different refs take liberties with the situation ie they try to balance the books in terms of borderline decisions given against a team earlier in the match, or to try to keep a team in the game for interests sakes. Who knows what they are being told behind closed doors about this!
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 16, 2015 17:44:24 GMT
Paddy Mc Brearty is a far better footballer than Michael Murphy. And has a better temprament too Sully have you started the St. Patricks day celebrations early. IMO, that's one comment that's way off the mark. If you could pick one Donegal player to play for your local team it would have to be Murphy. Michael Murphy is a class footballer who has performed time & again for his county, furthermore he strikes me a very classy individual. Remember him waiting for all the Kerry players to come down the steps & individually congratulate them. Great touch. I am not questioning him as a nice and decent fella off the pitch. Merely pointing out that he has discipline issues on field lately. I would prefer to have Mc Brearty. You would prefer Murphy...i am not going to suggest that you have been drinking because of it.
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 16, 2015 17:52:19 GMT
When I left Listowel yesterday it was a beautiful day. I could not get over how bitter it was in Tralee. On my way home, I thought my time had come. I was behind a long line of cars being held up by a 40km per hour merchant. Eventually we came to a long stretch of straight road and with nothing coming against us I decided to make my break for freedom. I was careering along nicely when another guy got the same idea and ,obviously without looking in his mirror, decided to pull out as I was overtaking him. I had to swerve a little to avoid him. Swerving when you are going fast is not to be recommended and ,momentarily, I lost control but the man above guided me to safety. Forever grateful. I was sure that Killian had goaled in the second half when he knifed in from the right corner. So sure was I that I opened my programme to credit him with it. I have not seen it on TV but it must just have been a matter of inches. Indeed, I think KD was rushing in from left corner and he must have been very close to getting a toe to it. I know I have posed this question before but why was Paddy McBrearty not started in last year's final? Apart from his ability, he is nearly as bulky as Michael Murphy now. Talking about Paddy, I felt one of his points in the second half was wide. The referee consulted with the umpire. Was it referenced on TV? Am I right in saying that Kerry only got two frees within scoring range in the second half- the penalty and the forty five, which David Moran made a pig's ear of. Talking about David, how can one explain the contrast in his form between the Cork and Donegal games? I suppose one could go further and ask the same question about the entire team. Has anybody any idea how Bryan Sheehan sustained his injury and the nature of same. Was Alan Fitzgerald on the last year's panel? I have never been a fan of Rory Hickey and I always get the impression that he is not a fan of Kerry. He also exudes a certain arrogance, suggesting that he is more important than the players. An undesirable trait. Regarding some of his decisions yesterday: The Neil Gallagher incident was probably a yellow card rather than a black. It was clumsy and awkward. He swung Stephen O'Brien by the shoulder and his arm eventually finished around his neck. Dangerous but no malice intended ,I imagine. Will Donegal be able to squeeze another year out of this thirty four year old at midfield? I had a good view of the Michael Murphy incident. The problem for Michael was that he was not favourably positioned to contest that particular ball. By way of contrast, Jonathan was in the path of the ball and it was going to be his. The result was that Michael had to lunge at Jonathan to have any hope of gaining possession. Now if somebody like Ryan McHugh had executed that lunge there would not have been half the furore because Ryan would not be capable of inflicting the damage that his far more powerful colleague would. Another factor about the incident is this. It took place in front of EF. Now Eamon is usually unflappable on the line but he became very agitated over this incident, not surprising I suppose as he watched Jonathan, who is a hardy lad, prostrate on the ground. At the very least, it was a yellow card. A less benign referee might have flashed a red. Certainly, in rugby it would be regarded as taking the man out in the air and almost certainly would have resulted in a red. Speaking of Michael, I was delighted when Donegal moved him out. Just as, I am sure, most opponents are delighted when KD is moved out. The referee was totally inconsistent in adjudicating a situation where the man in possession was surrounded by a cluster of players. This time it was regarded as over holding, the next time as a foul tackle. Then again, I suppose this happens with most referees. Totally unsatisfactory. The decision which most enraged me was one I referred to in my report. In the second half, KD was racing back towards his own goal when he was tripped off the ball by ? Neil McGee. Happened directly in the referee's line of vision. He merely ran past the flattened KD and indeed a Donegal point resulted. It was as cynical a foul as one could see and blatant black card offence. This is not an attack on Neil McGee because I have no doubt a Kerry player would act similarly in the same circumstances. But the point is that this is one of the offences for which the black card was introduced. The Mc Brearty point was well inside the post. I had a perfect view of it. I couldnt understand what the ref was in talking to the umpire about.
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Post by Premier on Mar 16, 2015 18:53:13 GMT
When I left Listowel yesterday it was a beautiful day. I could not get over how bitter it was in Tralee. On my way home, I thought my time had come. I was behind a long line of cars being held up by a 40km per hour merchant. Eventually we came to a long stretch of straight road and with nothing coming against us I decided to make my break for freedom. I was careering along nicely when another guy got the same idea and ,obviously without looking in his mirror, decided to pull out as I was overtaking him. I had to swerve a little to avoid him. Swerving when you are going fast is not to be recommended and ,momentarily, I lost control but the man above guided me to safety. Forever grateful. I was sure that Killian had goaled in the second half when he knifed in from the right corner. So sure was I that I opened my programme to credit him with it. I have not seen it on TV but it must just have been a matter of inches. Indeed, I think KD was rushing in from left corner and he must have been very close to getting a toe to it. I know I have posed this question before but why was Paddy McBrearty not started in last year's final? Apart from his ability, he is nearly as bulky as Michael Murphy now. Talking about Paddy, I felt one of his points in the second half was wide. The referee consulted with the umpire. Was it referenced on TV? Am I right in saying that Kerry only got two frees within scoring range in the second half- the penalty and the forty five, which David Moran made a pig's ear of. Talking about David, how can one explain the contrast in his form between the Cork and Donegal games? I suppose one could go further and ask the same question about the entire team. Has anybody any idea how Bryan Sheehan sustained his injury and the nature of same. Was Alan Fitzgerald on the last year's panel? I have never been a fan of Rory Hickey and I always get the impression that he is not a fan of Kerry. He also exudes a certain arrogance, suggesting that he is more important than the players. An undesirable trait. Regarding some of his decisions yesterday: The Neil Gallagher incident was probably a yellow card rather than a black. It was clumsy and awkward. He swung Stephen O'Brien by the shoulder and his arm eventually finished around his neck. Dangerous but no malice intended ,I imagine. Will Donegal be able to squeeze another year out of this thirty four year old at midfield? I had a good view of the Michael Murphy incident. The problem for Michael was that he was not favourably positioned to contest that particular ball. By way of contrast, Jonathan was in the path of the ball and it was going to be his. The result was that Michael had to lunge at Jonathan to have any hope of gaining possession. Now if somebody like Ryan McHugh had executed that lunge there would not have been half the furore because Ryan would not be capable of inflicting the damage that his far more powerful colleague would. Another factor about the incident is this. It took place in front of EF. Now Eamon is usually unflappable on the line but he became very agitated over this incident, not surprising I suppose as he watched Jonathan, who is a hardy lad, prostrate on the ground. At the very least, it was a yellow card. A less benign referee might have flashed a red. Certainly, in rugby it would be regarded as taking the man out in the air and almost certainly would have resulted in a red. Speaking of Michael, I was delighted when Donegal moved him out. Just as, I am sure, most opponents are delighted when KD is moved out. The referee was totally inconsistent in adjudicating a situation where the man in possession was surrounded by a cluster of players. This time it was regarded as over holding, the next time as a foul tackle. Then again, I suppose this happens with most referees. Totally unsatisfactory. The decision which most enraged me was one I referred to in my report. In the second half, KD was racing back towards his own goal when he was tripped off the ball by ? Neil McGee. Happened directly in the referee's line of vision. He merely ran past the flattened KD and indeed a Donegal point resulted. It was as cynical a foul as one could see and blatant black card offence. This is not an attack on Neil McGee because I have no doubt a Kerry player would act similarly in the same circumstances. But the point is that this is one of the offences for which the black card was introduced. Can anyone explain why David Moran is the secondary free taker for Kerry? Time after time he kicks wides when Sheehan isn't playing, rarely ever see him kick a free off the ground over the bar
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Post by ballynamona on Mar 16, 2015 19:13:56 GMT
Was Alan Fitzgerald on the last year's panel? Veteran, I would estimate Alan Fitzgerald as 24 or 25 years old. He last played U21 in 2011. He was on last year's panel. There is 26 in the official panel and was the next man, and so probably the most unlucky on the extended squad not to get an All-Ireland medal. He had proved himself useful in the league and is adding to the strength in depth.
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Post by southward on Mar 16, 2015 19:32:56 GMT
When I left Listowel yesterday it was a beautiful day. I could not get over how bitter it was in Tralee. On my way home, I thought my time had come. I was behind a long line of cars being held up by a 40km per hour merchant. Eventually we came to a long stretch of straight road and with nothing coming against us I decided to make my break for freedom. I was careering along nicely when another guy got the same idea and ,obviously without looking in his mirror, decided to pull out as I was overtaking him. I had to swerve a little to avoid him. Swerving when you are going fast is not to be recommended and ,momentarily, I lost control but the man above guided me to safety. Forever grateful. I was sure that Killian had goaled in the second half when he knifed in from the right corner. So sure was I that I opened my programme to credit him with it. I have not seen it on TV but it must just have been a matter of inches. Indeed, I think KD was rushing in from left corner and he must have been very close to getting a toe to it. I know I have posed this question before but why was Paddy McBrearty not started in last year's final? Apart from his ability, he is nearly as bulky as Michael Murphy now. Talking about Paddy, I felt one of his points in the second half was wide. The referee consulted with the umpire. Was it referenced on TV? Am I right in saying that Kerry only got two frees within scoring range in the second half- the penalty and the forty five, which David Moran made a pig's ear of. Talking about David, how can one explain the contrast in his form between the Cork and Donegal games? I suppose one could go further and ask the same question about the entire team. Has anybody any idea how Bryan Sheehan sustained his injury and the nature of same. Was Alan Fitzgerald on the last year's panel? I have never been a fan of Rory Hickey and I always get the impression that he is not a fan of Kerry. He also exudes a certain arrogance, suggesting that he is more important than the players. An undesirable trait. Regarding some of his decisions yesterday: The Neil Gallagher incident was probably a yellow card rather than a black. It was clumsy and awkward. He swung Stephen O'Brien by the shoulder and his arm eventually finished around his neck. Dangerous but no malice intended ,I imagine. Will Donegal be able to squeeze another year out of this thirty four year old at midfield? I had a good view of the Michael Murphy incident. The problem for Michael was that he was not favourably positioned to contest that particular ball. By way of contrast, Jonathan was in the path of the ball and it was going to be his. The result was that Michael had to lunge at Jonathan to have any hope of gaining possession. Now if somebody like Ryan McHugh had executed that lunge there would not have been half the furore because Ryan would not be capable of inflicting the damage that his far more powerful colleague would. Another factor about the incident is this. It took place in front of EF. Now Eamon is usually unflappable on the line but he became very agitated over this incident, not surprising I suppose as he watched Jonathan, who is a hardy lad, prostrate on the ground. At the very least, it was a yellow card. A less benign referee might have flashed a red. Certainly, in rugby it would be regarded as taking the man out in the air and almost certainly would have resulted in a red. Speaking of Michael, I was delighted when Donegal moved him out. Just as, I am sure, most opponents are delighted when KD is moved out. The referee was totally inconsistent in adjudicating a situation where the man in possession was surrounded by a cluster of players. This time it was regarded as over holding, the next time as a foul tackle. Then again, I suppose this happens with most referees. Totally unsatisfactory. The decision which most enraged me was one I referred to in my report. In the second half, KD was racing back towards his own goal when he was tripped off the ball by ? Neil McGee. Happened directly in the referee's line of vision. He merely ran past the flattened KD and indeed a Donegal point resulted. It was as cynical a foul as one could see and blatant black card offence. This is not an attack on Neil McGee because I have no doubt a Kerry player would act similarly in the same circumstances. But the point is that this is one of the offences for which the black card was introduced. veteran, There's always a 40km/h merchant on that road, you should know that. Always! And never too many chances to overtake; it's a constant source of irritation. You're spot on about Hickey not being a Kerry fan. I groaned when I saw who was down to ref the game. Actually surprised he gave us the penalty cos he never gives us anything and didn't yesterday either up to then. You can argue whether Murphy's challenge on Lyne should have seen black, yellow or red but what infuriated the crowd was that Hickey gave nothing (apart from the free). Incredible!, it felt like he was trying to wind us up. Didn't help that it was hot on the heels of Gallagher's tackle. Still, not to be too negative, a really good game of football, much better than expected. Walked past the Donegal players warming up on the way in and you could tell that they were really up for it. Kerry needed to play well to get a result here. I thought Maher was outstanding again, really becoming a fine asset for Kerry, though he seems to be overshadowed by Moran in the plaudit stakes.
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Post by givehimaball on Mar 16, 2015 19:33:27 GMT
Was Alan Fitzgerald on the last year's panel? Veteran, I would estimate Alan Fitzgerald as 24 or 25 years old. He last played U21 in 2011. He was on last year's panel. There is 26 in the official panel and was the next man, and so probably the most unlucky on the extended squad not to get an All-Ireland medal. He had proved himself useful in the league and is adding to the strength in depth. Alan Fitzgerald turned 24 last December.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 16, 2015 19:51:14 GMT
How is Murphy's "challenge" a black???!!
I thought we understood this!
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 16, 2015 20:39:46 GMT
I could well be wrong here but did Alan Fitzgerald come on v Monaghan in Iniskeen a few years ago and kick a few effortless points from long distance? Is he an athlete of some note?
JMcGs decision to not start McBrearty looks in the final looks more and more mad now but maybe Donegals whole game plan was a full court press in the final quarter which the two goals capsized. I think Shane is the man for him when they next meet.
Could someone else other than Michael Murphy have floated that last free into the Kerry square. Murphy is the one man you would want at the end of that lob.
Wasn't it a great display of footpassing from both sides. The Donegal goal was a thing of beauty. Killian hit a left foot pass of about 45 yards and Moran hit a peach with the left foot.
I though Rory Hickey was grand out.
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Post by stevieq on Mar 16, 2015 21:33:47 GMT
Has Tommy Walsh forgotten so much over the last few years away. I hope he finds his mojo soon (whatever that means). Tommy Walsh needs to start the next game. Huge fan of his. He basically kicked the life out of cork in the AI with two points one after the other...sent into orbit one from each foot. Magnificent stuff. Unfortunately, he's a long way off that level at the moment. He needs game time to get some kind of rhythm back. BJK had a night mare second half and was on his way off until he scored the goal. Can't see him starting come championship. Lad to bring in fresh with 10-15 mins to go. There's always a bit of reluctance with him to take on his man and tends to make snap deceisions - often the wrong one. Delighted to see Crowley, Enright and Young on. There's a bit of strength and physicality to these lads that was badly wanting against Cork. Maher, Moran, Buckley and Sheehan. ... Awesome stuff yesterday. With Colm and James to come back. You gotta feel good about the year.
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Post by kerryeye on Mar 16, 2015 22:06:44 GMT
I could well be wrong here but did Alan Fitzgerald come on v Monaghan in Iniskeen a few years ago and kick a few effortless points from long distance? Is he an athlete of some note? Pretty sure that was Niall Mahony from spa that day in Monaghan Mick!
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Post by baurtregaum on Mar 16, 2015 22:31:53 GMT
McBrearty was excellent at times but has been pointed out he kicks everything off his left leg, or seemed to yesterday anyway. With his physicality this may not matter as he is very hard to mark. Murphy is still a good bit ahead of him in my book.
The Murphy/Lyne incident happened in front of me. Murphy Creased him pretty deliberately in my view. It was a yellow at least. It was Eamonn McGee who tangled with Donaghy, Rory Hickey was running right past and couldn't but see it. Nothing done - was this the worst refereeing performance of the weekend? Neither side was entirely innocent but his inconsistency as frustrating.
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Post by playitfair on Mar 16, 2015 22:44:56 GMT
Sully have you started the St. Patricks day celebrations early. IMO, that's one comment that's way off the mark. If you could pick one Donegal player to play for your local team it would have to be Murphy. Michael Murphy is a class footballer who has performed time & again for his county, furthermore he strikes me a very classy individual. Remember him waiting for all the Kerry players to come down the steps & individually congratulate them. Great touch. I am not questioning him as a nice and decent fella off the pitch. Merely pointing out that he has discipline issues on field lately. I would prefer to have Mc Brearty. You would prefer Murphy...i am not going to suggest that you have been drinking because of it.
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Post by playitfair on Mar 16, 2015 22:45:35 GMT
I am not questioning him as a nice and decent fella off the pitch. Merely pointing out that he has discipline issues on field lately. I would prefer to have Mc Brearty. You would prefer Murphy...i am not going to suggest that you have been drinking because of it. Fair comment, we'll agree to disagree,
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 16, 2015 23:04:17 GMT
I could well be wrong here but did Alan Fitzgerald come on v Monaghan in Iniskeen a few years ago and kick a few effortless points from long distance? Is he an athlete of some note? Pretty sure that was Niall Mahony from spa that day in Monaghan Mick! Thanks. Is that who that was. He looked to be a good prospect that day anyway.
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Post by fitz on Mar 16, 2015 23:25:43 GMT
Has Tommy Walsh forgotten so much over the last few years away. I hope he finds his mojo soon (whatever that means). Tommy Walsh needs to start the next game. Huge fan of his. He basically kicked the life out of cork in the AI with two points one after the other...sent into orbit one from each foot. Magnificent stuff. Unfortunately, he's a long way off that level at the moment. He needs game time to get some kind of rhythm back. BJK had a night mare second half and was on his way off until he scored the goal. Can't see him starting come championship. Lad to bring in fresh with 10-15 mins to go. There's always a bit of reluctance with him to take on his man and tends to make snap deceisions - often the wrong one. Delighted to see Crowley, Enright and Young on. There's a bit of strength and physicality to these lads that was badly wanting against Cork. Maher, Moran, Buckley and Sheehan. ... Awesome stuff yesterday. With Colm and James to come back. You gotta feel good about the year. I would have been a BJK detractor over the years, but find myself now wanting to stand up for him. He had a bad game yesterday but he's been a strong player for us in the league til now, has two good feet, kicks good scores. You could see the goal meant an awful lot to him. He's a confidence player for sure. I think he'll likely miss out in Championship but he's pushing much harder and more convincingly than ever before. He's still young and is to be persevered with. He made key contributions in All Ireland final. Killian is playing the best I've seen from. He's very elusive in extricating himself from tackles and very accurate in possession. Star ate him though for not popping the ball to him to dunk in second half, I think the shot was well on, but he needed to stick it.
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Post by fitz on Mar 16, 2015 23:40:55 GMT
The referee was totally inconsistent in adjudicating a situation where the man in possession was surrounded by a cluster of players. This time it was regarded as over holding, the next time as a foul tackle. Then again, I suppose this happens with most referees. Totally unsatisfactory.
I agree, there is a lot of trouble with this in every game i have seen for the past several years. It seems to be getting more and more difficult to police. Lots of men around a player means he has got to either release the ball or hold on and over carry. The third option, which is to award a free to the grounded player seems to happen when a team are chasing the game. Im not sure how to police this consistently, but no doubt, different refs take liberties with the situation ie they try to balance the books in terms of borderline decisions given against a team earlier in the match, or to h to keep a team in the game for interests sakes. Who knows what they are being told behind closed doors about this! If ever a ruling was required it's for this tackle instance and totally agree with points made. It's a lottery, a panic decision by refs, I need to award something, maybe watch more closely to see if he flips an old 10 pence as he hovers, with whistle wetted. I've mentioned this at least twice before but nobody concurred or demurred, so here goes again . The player being equivalent to 'choke' tackled by up to 4 to 5 players remains isolated to his fate. Why are his teammates not crowding in, not to start a fight, but very validly try to get a throw ball. It's a tackle that infuriates me. It is reflective of tigerish defending but the attacking player cannot play the ball. Tough sh1t would be a worthy riposte but there's no way a ref can accurately judge that all, some or one are not fouling. I'm not sure if this is completely thought out, but a maximum of two defenders to a tackle seems more logical and fair and easier to officiate?
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 16, 2015 23:55:17 GMT
It reminds me a bit of rugby. A pile of lads on the ground with a ball somewhere inside the pile. The referee could give a penalty in either direction and you could probably justify either.
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Post by jackiel on Mar 17, 2015 0:34:15 GMT
I didnt get to watch this match yesterday with it being Mothers day so I settled down to it tonight. Some very questionable decisions from the ref alright. Johnny Buckley is playing great football, Killian seems to have found a massive burst of form and Stephen is shaping up nicely too. I know everyone says "its only the league" and all that but to see the green shoots does your heart good. Yesterdays match against one of the top teams will have done the lads the world of good, although I'm very worried about Bryan as he's vital to Kerry success. We need to find another free taker because as much as I think David Moran is the real deal, he's not the right man to take the frees.
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