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Post by A.N. Other on Mar 15, 2015 21:01:07 GMT
Niall Sheehy is injured. And I think Greg Horan may have been carrying an injury/picked up a knock. Surprised Cillian Fitz isn't starting, has been a star player throughout the Hastings cup. Barry O Sullivan more than held his own against Tommy Walsh in the challenge game a couple of weeks back so I'd imagine that was a massive boost to him. Matthew Flaherty will play as a sweeper as he has been throughout the Hastings cup also.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 15, 2015 21:01:10 GMT
Darragh Ó Sé names 6 All-Ireland winning minors in Kerry U21 team to play Cork
The teams meet next Wednesday night in their Munster semi-final tie in Páirc Uí Rinn.
KERRY U21 MANAGER Darragh Ó Sé has named six players from last year’s All-Ireland minor winning team in the county’s side to face Cork in the Eirgrid Munster U21FC semi-final next Wednesday night. Goalkeeper Shane Ryan, corner-backs Cormac Coffey and Brian Ó Beaglaoich, midfielder Barry O’Sullivan, wing-forward Micheal Burns and corner-forward Matthew O’Flaherty all started in the minor final triumph over Donegal last September. Full-back Gavin Crowley is the only member of the starting Kerry team who lost out to Cork in the Munster championship last year to be named here. Centre-back Denis Daly and corner-forward Conor Keane both came on as subs in that game while substitutes this year Padraig Ó Conchúir, Greg Horan and Adrian Spillane all started in last year’s U21 loss. Kerry
1. Shane Ryan (Rathmore) 2. Cormac Coffey (Kerins O’Rahillys) 3. Gavin Crowley (Templenoe) 4. Brian Ó Beaglaoich (An Ghaeltacht) 5. Ronan Murphy (Beaufort) 6. Denis Daly (St Mary’s) 7. Cathal Ó Lúing (An Ghaeltacht) 8. Jack Barry Na Gaeil) 9. Barry O’Sullivan (Dingle) 10. Brian Crowley (Templenoe) 11. Jack Savage (Kerins O’Rahillys) 12. Micheal Burns (Dr Crokes) 13. Matthew Flaherty (Dingle) 14. Dara Roche (Glenflesk) 15. Conor Keane (Killarney Legion) Subs 16. Darragh O’Shea (Ballydonoghue) 17. Cathal Murphy (Rathmore) 18. Greg Horan (Austin Stacks) 19. Conor Jordan (Austin Stacks) 20. Gary O’Sullivan (Listry) 21. Kevin McCarthy (Kilcummin) 22. Eanna Ó Conchúir (An Ghaeltacht) 23. Donal Maher (Kilcummin) 24. Liam Carey (Beaufort) Extended training panel Adrian Spillane (Templenoe) Cillian Fitzgerald (Churchill) David Foran (St Senan’s) Killian Spillane (Templenoe) Niall Sheehy (John Mitchels) Pádraig Ó Conchúir (Dingle) Sean T. Dillon (St Senan’s) Tom O’Sullivan (Dingle)
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Post by Premier on Mar 15, 2015 22:00:19 GMT
The Kerry Team to play Cork in the Cadburys Munster GAA Under 21 Football Championship Semi Final in Páirc Uí Rinn on Wednesday evening next contains just one of last year’s starting 15 against the same opposition (Gavin Crowley)as well as 6 of the successful Kerry Minor side from last year namely, Shane Ryan, Cormac Coffey, Brian Ó Beaglaoich, Barry O’Sullivan, Micheál Burns and Matthew Flaherty. The team, captained by Gavin Crowley from Templenoe is as follows: 1. Shane Ryan (Rathmore) 2. Cormac Coffey (Kerins O’Rahillys) 3. Gavin Crowley (Templenoe) 4. Brian Ó Beaglaoich (An Ghaeltacht) 5. Ronan Murphy (Beaufort) 6. Denis Daly (St Marys) 7. Cathal Ó Lúing (An Ghaeltacht) 8. Jack Barry Na Gaeil) 9. Barry O’Sullivan (Dingle) 10. Brian Crowley (Templenoe) 11. Jack Savage (Kerins O’Rahillys) 12. Micheal Burns (Dr Crokes) 13. Matthew Flaherty (Dingle) 14. Dara Roche (Glenflesk) 15. Conor Keane (Killarney Legion) Fir Ionaid 16. Darragh O’Shea (Ballydonoghue) 17. Cathal Murphy (Rathmore) 18. Greg Horan (Austin Stacks) 19. Conor Jordan (Austin Stacks) 20. Gary O'Sullivan (Listry) 21. Kevin McCarthy (Kilcummin) 22. Eanna Ó Conchúir (An Ghaeltacht) 23. Donal Maher (Kilcummin) 24. Liam Carey (Beaufort) Bainistíocht: Darragh Ó Sé (Bainisteoir), Seamus Moynihan, John Shanahan, Ciarán McCabe. The following players are part of the extended Kerry training panel: Adrian Spillane (Templenoe), Cillian Fitzgerald (Churchill), David Foran (St Senans), Killian Spillane (Templenoe), Niall Sheehy (John Mitchels), Padraig Ó Conchúir (Dingle), Sean T. Dillon (St Senans), Tom O'Sullivan (Dingle). You would have to presume Greg Horan is injured I still have doubts about Cormac Coffey and definetly Cathal Long as a wing back, never seen him play there before The sweeper role will suit Flatherty as he wouldn't be able to mark anyone anyway due to his lack of size The lads on the team must be playing out of their skin if that amount of quality can be in the extended panel, many of whom are better than those on the team ( Tom, Patrick O Connor, Sean T, Cillian Fitz)
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Post by fivenarow on Mar 15, 2015 22:59:49 GMT
I think 5 outfield players just out of minor level will be a bridge too far, you might get away with it to a certain degree at home but down in Cork will be difficult.I think Greg Horan is injured but I would have played Gary O Sullivan instead of Barry O Sullivan, I thought Killian Fitzgerald & Dave Foran would also be in the shakeup but they havent even made the subs - physically the forwards look on the light side. Hopefully the lack of form that Cork showed in Limerick will continue.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Mar 15, 2015 23:17:12 GMT
A surprising team to say the least- I would have assumed that Greg & Patrick O Connor would be definite starters and that Cillian FItz would be very, very close. I share the reservations about Cathal Long at wing back but maybe the plan is for Matthew to drop in there and Long to play as a sweeper?
Will be interesting to see how this goes and how we actually line-out! 2 man full forward line seems to be a certainty
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2015 23:47:03 GMT
Interesting team . I am worried about the size of our Forwards . All talented footballers but they lack size and height . I expected Cillian Fitzgerald or Eanna O'Connor to start at Full Forward . Cork are a bigger side so we will see how our forwards go about winning posession one on one . Midfield looks solid . The half back line are big lads but O'Luing is a little slow for wing back . I would swap with Cormac Coffey he has pace . A little surprised Cathal Murphy did not start in the Corner . Greg Horan is probably injured . I would have started him at no.11 to add size to the forwards but I guess the Selectors no more . We'll see how it goes .
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 16, 2015 0:15:57 GMT
This u21 side fills me with optimism and excitement for some reason. A certain u21 game in Skibbereen in 1973 springs to mind when a very youthful Kerry side beat Cork. Showing my age now!
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Post by The16thMan on Mar 16, 2015 0:55:00 GMT
Darragh Ó Sé names 6 All-Ireland winning minors in Kerry U21 team to play Cork The teams meet next Wednesday night in their Munster semi-final tie in Páirc Uí Rinn. KERRY U21 MANAGER Darragh Ó Sé has named six players from last year’s All-Ireland minor winning team in the county’s side to face Cork in the Eirgrid Munster U21FC semi-final next Wednesday night. Goalkeeper Shane Ryan, corner-backs Cormac Coffey and Brian Ó Beaglaoich, midfielder Barry O’Sullivan, wing-forward Micheal Burns and corner-forward Matthew O’Flaherty all started in the minor final triumph over Donegal last September. Full-back Gavin Crowley is the only member of the starting Kerry team who lost out to Cork in the Munster championship last year to be named here. Centre-back Denis Daly and corner-forward Conor Keane both came on as subs in that game while substitutes this year Padraig Ó Conchúir, Greg Horan and Adrian Spillane all started in last year’s U21 loss. Kerry 1. Shane Ryan (Rathmore) 2. Cormac Coffey (Kerins O’Rahillys) 3. Gavin Crowley (Templenoe) 4. Brian Ó Beaglaoich (An Ghaeltacht) 5. Ronan Murphy (Beaufort) 6. Denis Daly (St Mary’s) 7. Cathal Ó Lúing (An Ghaeltacht) 8. Jack Barry Na Gaeil) 9. Barry O’Sullivan (Dingle) 10. Brian Crowley (Templenoe) 11. Jack Savage (Kerins O’Rahillys) 12. Micheal Burns (Dr Crokes) 13. Matthew Flaherty (Dingle) 14. Dara Roche (Glenflesk) 15. Conor Keane (Killarney Legion) Subs 16. Darragh O’Shea (Ballydonoghue) 17. Cathal Murphy (Rathmore) 18. Greg Horan (Austin Stacks) 19. Conor Jordan (Austin Stacks) 20. Gary O’Sullivan (Listry) 21. Kevin McCarthy (Kilcummin) 22. Eanna Ó Conchúir (An Ghaeltacht) 23. Donal Maher (Kilcummin) 24. Liam Carey (Beaufort) Extended training panel Adrian Spillane (Templenoe) Cillian Fitzgerald (Churchill) David Foran (St Senan’s) Killian Spillane (Templenoe) Niall Sheehy (John Mitchels) Pádraig Ó Conchúir (Dingle) Sean T. Dillon (St Senan’s) Tom O’Sullivan (Dingle) players selected are all up to the standard in my opinion, perhaps a few positional changes such as Cormac Coffey for Cathal Long and I wonder how badly is Greg Horan injured as he was arguably Stacks' standout player throughout their club campaign. It'll probably be a two-man full forward line with Keane & Roche inside with Matthew Flaherty sweeping up along with Micheal Burns. The question I ask is besides Conor Keane who can do the Cork backs significant damage, Roche appears to be coming on but has not quite proven himself yet, Micheal Burns & Matthew Flaherty will probably be asked to pick up breaking ball rather than be taking on shots for scores.. Jack Savage is a great free taker but can become inconsistent in his ability to score from play as for Brian Crowley I am not fully aware of this mans ability or style of play but of what I hear regarding him appears to be good so i'll remain hopeful.. Midfield will certainly be a battle that must be won, Ian Maguire is proving to be a great talent for Cork and is certainly one to keep the eye on for the future he will have to be kept relatively quiet if we are to win as he was highly influential in providing the Cork forwards with quality supply for the 5 goals they got vs Limerick
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Post by dashboard10 on Mar 16, 2015 8:29:57 GMT
I can understand the reasons why but I would feel very sorry for dara o'se the goalkeeper who hasn't really put a foot wrong in goals think he's conceded 1 goal in 5 games in Hastings cup plus improved his kick outs greatly with the help of declan okeefe but I know Shane Ryan is a great keeper and cork have a huge full forward so I couldn't disagree with it just hard on him after all his efforts over the last few months
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Post by buck02 on Mar 16, 2015 9:26:35 GMT
A surprising team to say the least- I would have assumed that Greg & Patrick O Connor would be definite starters and that Cillian FItz would be very, very close.I share the reservations about Cathal Long at wing back but maybe the plan is for Matthew to drop in there and Long to play as a sweeper? Will be interesting to see how this goes and how we actually line-out! 2 man full forward line seems to be a certainty I might be totally wrong here but playing in a two man full forward line you need two really pacey players and thats where Cillian Fitz probably falls down? Still would have thought he would have been an option off the bench if you needed to change things around a bit, especially with the apparent lack of physicality amongst the other forwards on the bench.
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Post by dashboard10 on Mar 16, 2015 9:43:02 GMT
Don't think your wrong what is on the bench for the forward line is speed the likes of Liam Carey who can run at a tired defence just wonder have we any plan b if Roche and Keane and savage aren't able to get the scores but they must be the guy's that have produced the goods in training so I'm sure the 24 is there on merit and especially last year s minors that are starting best of luck to them, there well able for it.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Mar 16, 2015 9:56:49 GMT
A surprising team to say the least- I would have assumed that Greg & Patrick O Connor would be definite starters and that Cillian FItz would be very, very close.I share the reservations about Cathal Long at wing back but maybe the plan is for Matthew to drop in there and Long to play as a sweeper? Will be interesting to see how this goes and how we actually line-out! 2 man full forward line seems to be a certainty I might be totally wrong here but playing in a two man full forward line you need two really pacey players and thats where Cillian Fitz probably falls down? Still would have thought he would have been an option off the bench if you needed to change things around a bit, especially with the apparent lack of physicality amongst the other forwards on the bench. I agree that Cillian might not work in a 2 man line although he is not that slow! I just expected, from the Hastings cup games and how things were goin in training, that there was a good chance that they would play 3 men inside with him at 14.
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Post by greengold35 on Mar 16, 2015 10:02:46 GMT
Just wonder if Greg Horan is injured why is he on the bench? He has had a long campaign with Stacks so maybe that has taken its toll.
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Post by dashboard10 on Mar 16, 2015 10:05:57 GMT
Is the cork team named I'm sure they will make changes from the team that beat limerick
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Post by keane on Mar 16, 2015 10:10:38 GMT
Possibly the fact that Horan was with Stacks means the management decided he hadn't trained with the U21s enough to start?
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Post by Premier on Mar 16, 2015 12:25:33 GMT
Is the cork team named I'm sure they will make changes from the team that beat limerick 3 changes, Michael McSweeney, Brian o Driscoll and Kevin Davis come in
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Mar 16, 2015 13:44:09 GMT
A couple of pre-match starting 15 adjustments cant be ruled out here to be honest-also i had forgotten about Conor Jordan! Surprised he isnt starting either!
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Post by veteran on Mar 16, 2015 16:03:28 GMT
I am not in a position to comment on the merit of the selected team. However, I am a little worried that six or seven of last year's minor team have been selected. It means that they will be conceding a couple of years to their opponents. That is a significant disadvantage for young players.
Mickmack referred to the youthfulness of the 1973 u21 team. I don't think the comparison is valid. That 1973 team was backboned by players from the 1969 Hogan cup winning team from St. Brendans and the Kerry minor team of 1970 who were beaten only in a replay of the All-Ireland. Paudie O'Mahony, Jim Deenihan, Ger O'Keeffe, Ger Power, Mickey O'Sullivan, John Long, Tim Kennelly, John Egan, Mikey Sheehy, Paudie Lynch- would all have been in their last year as u21's. My goodness, wasn't it some u21 team though.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 16, 2015 18:12:48 GMT
and given that Cork put five goals past the Kerry keeper in the first half of the 1973 Munster Senior Football final and went on to win the All Ireland, it did look like Kerry would be down for a while but that U21 game v Cork in Skibbereen was a call to arms for a new generation. Kerry beat Mayo in that years u21 final.
Incidentally, the main man on that u21 side was Martin Ferris who could have ended up with several All Ireland Senior medals if he hadn't taken another path.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2015 18:37:39 GMT
I think a big problem is the half back line.While they are all big strong men there is a serious lack of pace.Also just a few small things like, Ronan Murphy didn't come near even coming off the bench for UCC while Gary O Sullivan doesn't start Wednesday night, he started all games. Padraigh O Conchuir and Adrian Spillane start last year don't make 24 this year.Baffling really.
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Post by Premier on Mar 16, 2015 18:48:22 GMT
I think a big problem is the half back line.While they are all big strong men there is a serious lack of pace.Also just a few small things like, Ronan Murphy didn't come near even coming off the bench for UCC while Gary O Sullivan doesn't start Wednesday night, he started all games. Padraigh O Conchuir and Adrian Spillane start last year don't make 24 this year.Baffling really. I too have reservations at the pace of the half back line but that is mainly aimed at Cathal Long. Denis Daly for a man of his size is deceptively quick, if not one of the quickest there over a long distance .. With regards Ronan Murphy, that's more of a horses for courses matter, UCC were incredibly strong in the backline whereas they were a little weak in midfield, hence Gary Sullivan playing.. Although Adrian Spillane did play last year, I never felt he deserved that place and always felt he would struggle once Burns came out of minors.. Patrick Connor's form is supposed to have sharply dipped in recent times
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Post by givehimaball on Mar 16, 2015 19:00:29 GMT
gaacork.ie/news/355079/Cork_v_Kerry_Munster_U21_Football_S_F_Wed_18th_MarchMaguire out is a serious blow - it is a back injury so he might be a possible candidate for being parachuted in. Martin in goals played last Wednesday as well as making his debut for the seniors in Omagh yesterday - I'd imagine the straw that broke the camel's back for Cuthbert with O'Halloran was Donaghy's goal last Sunday.
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Post by ballynamona on Mar 16, 2015 19:07:46 GMT
This u21 side fills me with optimism and excitement for some reason. A certain u21 game in Skibbereen in 1973 springs to mind when a very youthful Kerry side beat Cork. Showing my age now! Team line-up for that game here: history.launerangers.ie/?p=1574
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Post by greengold35 on Mar 16, 2015 19:20:57 GMT
I think a big problem is the half back line.While they are all big strong men there is a serious lack of pace.Also just a few small things like, Ronan Murphy didn't come near even coming off the bench for UCC while Gary O Sullivan doesn't start Wednesday night, he started all games. Padraigh O Conchuir and Adrian Spillane start last year don't make 24 this year.Baffling really. Not sure there is a lack of pace in the half back line - Murphy & Daly are quite mobile for big men; think O'Luing will switch with Cormac Coffey who has explosive pace. Last year's team were beaten more comprehensively than the scoreline suggests( 0-18 to 2-8) - with Cork having 6 of that team available maybe selectors felt that it was time for some changes. This is a bold selection with the selectors having the benefit of the Hastings Cup to build a team; starting with 6 minors from last year is a gamble but these guys are winners and will bring a different mentality to the team; I think we will play with possibly only 4 forwards, 2 in each line, Crowley & Savage the link with the defence along with Conor Keane & Dara Roche inside to pick off the scores; expect to see Flaherty & Burns dropping back to help out our defence which should keep Cork scores to a minimum. Maguire is a huge loss to Cork so the scales are tipped a little more in our favour. Tough place to go but Limerick's 2-12 gives further encouragement- I could see us sneak this one!
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Post by homerj on Mar 16, 2015 20:43:05 GMT
General consensus seems to be that the team selection is a gamble.....
If darragh has any hope of being a future kerry manager,it rests on this game.
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Post by dashboard10 on Mar 16, 2015 21:20:45 GMT
I agree with you homerj and I was one of the optimistic one's for our chances but reading the comments a lot of them have merit and I would wonder is six of last year's minors starting possibly to much don't think cork have any minor from last year. but they must be there on merit and would be used to big game's I'll keep the faith
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Post by An Tarbh Rua on Mar 16, 2015 22:10:43 GMT
Hard to see Cork winning this and especially now with Macguire out. Kerry look far more balanced, more strength in depth and better prepared. Could be a long tough night for Cork and I will be surprised if margin is under 6 pts.
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Post by shannonsider on Mar 17, 2015 5:40:31 GMT
Hard to see Cork winning this and especially now with Macguire out. Kerry look far more balanced, more strength in depth and better prepared. Could be a long tough night for Cork and I will be surprised if margin is under 6 pts. Utter nonsense. Cork have 5 lads who have played Cork senior already..we have 1, Conor Keane. Cork have a competitive game under their belt aswell, which is always better preparation in my view. Yes, Maguire is a big loss, but even if we do win midfield, Cork's forward line is capable of causing us trouble. This would be a great one to win, especially in Cork, but I've a feeling we'll need to make a few in-game changes to get over the line and I don't honestly trust this management to make the right calls.
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Post by An Tarbh Rua on Mar 17, 2015 8:59:38 GMT
No nonsense Shannonsider - just my assessment of this Cork squad. The fact that 5 have played senior is meaningless - none of them will be c'ship starters. In this context Maguire isa massive loss. There is little on the Cork bench to come on and change things.
The general view in Cork is that this is a very average team and are not expected to win. Given the massive effort Kerry have put in to this U21 team it would be a shock if they don't win - don't know why you think it would be a great one to win as Kerry are clearly the better squad.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Mar 17, 2015 9:38:56 GMT
Hard to see Cork winning this and especially now with Macguire out. Kerry look far more balanced, more strength in depth and better prepared. Could be a long tough night for Cork and I will be surprised if margin is under 6 pts. Absolute tosh! A win for Kerry would be a great result, we have a terrible record in Cork and at minor level this team were very unlucky with how the draw fell. Added to the above is a fairly surprising team selection/structure meaning it is unlikely that we will win comfortably. I'll take a 1 point win, gladly
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