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Post by athletics on Aug 1, 2011 11:57:19 GMT
Just wondering if anybody has news on Darren this morning ? it looked like he came off in time and just tweaked his hamstring but more information would be great. He is playing the football of his life.
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Post by thepope on Aug 1, 2011 12:08:18 GMT
Same as a few others here, I would be a bit concerned that we've played about 1 half of football at a good pace. We've arrived at an All-Ireland semi in third gear, whereas teams on the other side of the draw seem to be playing at something more like championship pace. We will have raise the pace of our game when a team puts it up to us. Just hope we can lift it when the time comes. This team has plenty of experience of tough tight games, we can't use it as an excuse. |
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Post by lynchyboy on Aug 1, 2011 12:34:31 GMT
Hopefully darrens injury isn't serious, contender for player of the year at the moment the way he's going. Hopefully we bring a good crowd to the Semi's as well lads. Not just being Bandwaggoners and waiting till the final !
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Post by crokes86 on Aug 1, 2011 14:59:26 GMT
Kerry looked rusty but Limerick was not a real test . Mayo will be tough , to me it looks like Tyrone are on a roll to another All Ireland .
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Post by Kingdomson on Aug 1, 2011 15:15:05 GMT
Kerry looked rusty but Limerick was not a real test . Mayo will be tough , to me it looks like Tyrone are on a roll to another All Ireland . Peter Canavan said on the TV3 after Sunday's matches that he believes it will be a Tyrone versus Kerry final and that Tyrone would win it. He said it with real conviction. However, I would remind Peter - there is an awful lot of football to be played yet. To be quite honest, I would not look past the Mayo game and we'd be very foolish to do otherwise just look as what happened Cork! Forewarned is forearmed as they say. |
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Post by Kingdomson on Aug 1, 2011 15:17:08 GMT
The best thing about Sunday after the Kerry team and management played Limerick was they sat in the stand and watched the second game unfold. They will be under no illusion now about the possible task they may be facing and will know full well Mayo are not a soft touch this year despite some of the spoof talk they will be hearing within the county.
Mayo wiped the Cork midfield out and this was a Cork midfield with hitherto Alan O’Connor in the form of his career and the prodigious young Aidan Walsh. The O’Shea’s of Mayo are of Kerry pedigree and showed a mental strength against Cork of granite - this band of brothers will not be easily stopped. Perhaps, Mayo like Clare during the 90’s having finally had enough of near misses and humiliations and will no longer meekly except their fate.
I think we are in for an almighty battle with Mayo and nothing can be taken for granted.
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Post by greengold35 on Aug 1, 2011 17:05:30 GMT
Coming back from Dublin last evening and getting worried about Mayo game; I know it must have been hard for everyone to up their game yesterday given the previous result against Limerick but there are some guys out there who really need to up their game for the next day. Tom O'Sullivan has not looked comfortable all year and is guilty of being unpredictable of late; Eoin Brosnan and Aidan ( O'Mahony) need to be sharper than they were yesterday; the biggest worry I have is with Star- does not look fit in my opinion, does not seem to be able to get around opponents and his shooting not at its best- just hope he can produce the goods when asked. Mayo were good but Cork were probably no better than they were in the Munster and obviously handicapped by the loss of Goulding- I think from the vibes I was getting from Cork during the week that they had one eye on the 21st and retribution for Killarney- a very dangerous situation.
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Post by aitelads2 on Aug 1, 2011 18:42:19 GMT
Lads, did Kerrigan actually get a touch on that ball??
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Post by bilythewalsh on Aug 1, 2011 18:51:12 GMT
Was listening to Jack being interviewed on Sport at 7 there, said they need to wait 24-48 hours for Darran's injury to settle down so they can assess it properly. Said he went for cryotherapy today but did not want to speculate on whether a return for the Mayo game was likely or not.
Also said that he saw the first half of the Mayo game yesterday - they had to head for home then - but said he had seen enough to know that they will be a tough proposition, as they have the pace needed for Croke Park and have backs who stick to their jobs, which they were doing very well yesterday. Added that they have players who are playing some 'serious' football at the moment.
Also said that they had all been 'dreading' getting drawn in the delayed quarter-final.
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Post by Ard Mhacha on Aug 1, 2011 21:24:48 GMT
The Cork win will give Mayo a huge boost, whereas Kerry didn't have to scrap for that win against Limerick. I remember in 2002, I knew we had a chance because we were involved in 4 or 5 tough games that year, whereas Kerry strolled through games and didn't have those close battles.
Mayo collapsed in 2 finals against Kerry, but this is a semi final. Mayo beat Kerry well in 1996 semi, and if they play like they did against Cork, they can definitely win.
Nothing personal against Kerry, but I hope Mayo win. God knows they need some success after the amount of finals they've lost over the last 20 odd years.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 1, 2011 22:02:14 GMT
Mayo are always dangerous when written off. Different think though doing it as favourites.
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Post by ardfertnarrie on Aug 2, 2011 9:02:09 GMT
Looks like Darren will be fit for the semi final. Great news. God knows we'll need him with the form he is on. Our best forward so far.
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Post by thepope on Aug 2, 2011 9:13:19 GMT
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Post by Jigz84 on Aug 2, 2011 9:53:04 GMT
Mayo went man for man against Cork and did very well but I don't think they can afford to do the same against Kerry.
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Post by k on Aug 2, 2011 10:01:15 GMT
Lads, did Kerrigan actually get a touch on that ball?? He scored a goal and two points from play. |
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Post by playitfair on Aug 2, 2011 10:36:42 GMT
Mayo will not be easy at all. They fought like demons and all their forwards showed for every ball. there was no hiding, their midfield was excellent, high fielding and abrasive.
If Kerry can win enough ball around the middle, then clearly they should win, if not it will be a tough day.
Picking up on a topic about Kieran O'Leary I think that he has to start the semi final he was very good against Dublin when introduced as a sub in the league and has a very good relationship with Cooper. As mentioned before, he brings a lot of structure to our forward line. I am inclined to think that playing Kieran Donaghy as an out and out target man is difficult to do in Croke Park given its size, in any event he will probably needed in the midfield battle.
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Post by Jigz84 on Aug 2, 2011 10:58:48 GMT
Mayo will not be easy at all. They fought like demons and all their forwards showed for every ball. there was no hiding, their midfield was excellent, high fielding and abrasive. If Kerry can win enough ball around the middle, then clearly they should win, if not it will be a tough day. Picking up on a topic about Kieran O'Leary I think that he has to start the semi final he was very good against Dublin when introduced as a sub in the league and has a very good relationship with Cooper. As mentioned before, he brings a lot of structure to our forward line. I am inclined to think that playing Kieran Donaghy as an out and out target man is difficult to do in Croke Park given its size, in any event he will probably needed in the midfield battle. Even though I was far from impressed with Donaghy's performance Sunday, I would leave the forwards as they are...simply because Donaghy will be in his element against a fairly small full back line, Cafferkey isn't the biggest full back I've ever seen and the long high ball has paid off big time against Mayo in the past. I know they are more or less a new team compared to 2006, but they didn't play one high ball into the square against Cork for their own forwards, so that would suggest to me that they don't test their backs with it in training. |
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Post by midfield on Aug 2, 2011 11:00:53 GMT
shane enright to start??
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Post by lorr29 on Aug 2, 2011 12:00:52 GMT
Mayo went man for man against Cork and did very well but I don't think they can afford to do the same against Kerry. I agree, I think this is the key really, if Mayo adopt the same approach against Kerry, going man for man I believe we have niftier (sp!) players. However, as Mayo demonstrated on Saturday they are up for this and we all know the role "hunger" plays...it's gonna be some game, I hope, love the Mayo fans..gotta book my flight  |
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Post by yerraman on Aug 2, 2011 12:08:57 GMT
You have to remember that the cork forward unit is very rigid. With the exception of moving kerrigan to the wing there's not a lot of positional switches they could have made. For us, declan can play centre or full forward, darren can play centre,wing or corner, we can play a 2 man with gooch and donaghy or play donaghy inside on his own with the corner forwards roaming. Mayo's man to man system could get torn apart as their backs will be dragged all over the pitch.
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Post by peig on Aug 2, 2011 12:31:48 GMT
Firstly, congrats to the team for overcoming Limerick, even though it wasn't an attractive game. I agree with Mozzy - it was like watching a National League game back in February.
I think Sheehan deserves huge credit for his performance last Sunday. He's looking super fit and is probably the greatest exponent of a free taker from the placed ball.
I'll put my neck on the line by saying this much: even though Marc had a great game at full-back, I feel he's wasted in there. Same with Killian in the corner. I'd love to see a half-back line of Tomás, Marc and Killian. It's too late in the day now but I'd put Bohane in at full-back with Shane Enright in the other corner. No disrespect to AOM but we all know he's seen better days. Same with Eoin Brosnan.
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Post by chrism on Aug 2, 2011 12:37:46 GMT
Mayo a very good manager. I feel he will target Brosnan and Tom O Sullivan as he probably sees them as weak links. A fussier ref might not have let Mayo away with some to the tackles that they had against Cork(Donnacha O Connor). Having said all that something in me thinks that they may not perform as well the next day in defence. A semi final will be have a larger crowd etc.
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Post by lynchyboy on Aug 2, 2011 12:42:24 GMT
I think Mayo will put it up to us lads but our class will pull through in the end, I think O'Mahony needs to be dropped he was shocking at the weekend, alright fair enough the 4week break but he nearly granted limerick of a goal in the first few minutes and other scores throughout the game, I'd stick bohane full back move marc to the corner and push Killian young to wing back, Bohane has looked impressive in every game he's featured in for kerry this year in the championship.
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Post by Lolly Valance on Aug 2, 2011 13:54:21 GMT
Where does all this "Bohane for Full Back" come from? He played about 20 mins in a rain sodden Croke Park against Galway in 2008. He was marking a half fit Joe Bergin that was out for months previously. He broke one ball and was out in front of a half fit Bergin for another ball. That was it.
Watch the tape back and you will see. Maybe he will grow into the role if given time there during the league but no way would I totally re-adjust my backs for what is essentially an experiment in an all Ireland Semi Final.
Only Killian, Marc and Tomás played up to scratch the last day. I would worry for Tom but I'd say Aidan O'Mahony will be the most vulnerable if Enright comes back in.
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Post by crokes86 on Aug 2, 2011 14:12:58 GMT
I think they will start with the same team the only change on the bench could be David Geaney . I have been impressed with James o' Donoghue shows well for the ball and can score . Mayo showed a lot of hunger against Cork and if we match their hunger we should win by 3 or 4 points . I think we have the better footballers but that doesn't mean anything . We need to get stuck in from the start and win the midfield area . Croke Park has plenty space so we have to use it and get our forwards one on one with their backs . Rain would not be a good thing for us .
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Post by bilythewalsh on Aug 2, 2011 15:11:36 GMT
Mayo have scored 2 goals so far in this year's Championship. They got 10 in the League but we were the only side not to concede a goal against them.
Not sure if that will be relevant the next day but hopefully our forwards can bring that bit of guile with them and be fit and sharp enough to work for the full 70 mins if need be. Hopefully it will be a dry day and not as slippy in Croke Park.
They've been here many times before and should know exactly what to do. No hulaballoo over suspensions either so thankfully Jack will not have to be sitting down with the media on the eve of the game having to field questions on disciplinary issues.
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Post by mozzy on Aug 2, 2011 15:18:58 GMT
It's amazing how certain players change their game for the bigger the occasion - we need some experience here and I believe we will Tom O Sullivan up his game - he must know from the video that he can do better
I am also a fan of the idea of letting Marc roam out on the wing but as some have asked is Bohane ready for that position - Brosnan is another man who may not have played to his ability but he has the experience and memory of how to win - I would go with Enright as well over AOM - he makes a better impact sub imo
as for Leary - Donnacha Walsh will be needed for that battle for the breaking ball - they have the much better midfield than we and we need someone to fight hard in there to counteract - Galvin and Walsh usually do the dirty work and we'll need them bad next time out -
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Post by jimjepeto on Aug 2, 2011 15:55:59 GMT
Darren seems like our MVP this year - he is so important to the cause and brings such drive to the forward line - consistently getting those balls on the run and then 1 on 1 with the goalie.
HE IS THE KEY TO KERRY WINNING THE ALL IRELAND THIS YEAR!
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Post by jimjepeto on Aug 2, 2011 15:58:37 GMT
Also JOC also talks about match-ups - Brosnan against Dillion?  - i doubt it! |
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Post by Kingdomson on Aug 2, 2011 16:59:52 GMT
Firstly, congrats to the team for overcoming Limerick, even though it wasn't an attractive game. I agree with Mozzy - it was like watching a National League game back in February. I think Sheehan deserves huge credit for his performance last Sunday. He's looking super fit and is probably the greatest exponent of a free taker from the placed ball. I'll put my neck on the line by saying this much: even though Marc had a great game at full-back, I feel he's wasted in there. Same with Killian in the corner. I'd love to see a half-back line of Tomás, Marc and Killian. It's too late in the day now but I'd put Bohane in at full-back with Shane Enright in the other corner. No disrespect to AOM but we all know he's seen better days. Same with Eoin Brosnan. Peig I’d agree with you. Problem is and as Veteran pointed out in another post, although Jack is nobody’s fool a bit of daring would not be one of his qualities. Mickey Harte is the same and has shown fierce loyalty to the old guard – it took the defeat against Donegal to force Mickey to make the changes and to trust the youth. Obviously we no longer have the luxury of defeat as we are in knockout football but it will take a bit of daring to win this All Ireland. We are very open through the centre of our defence and not that we have to worry about it yet but if we met the likes of Sean Cavanagh he would make hay through that Kerry defence as it is presently constituted. Perhaps, Jack may go against type and make the big calls to the defence for the Mayo game. |
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- i doubt it!