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Post by Jo90 on Jul 27, 2010 9:25:53 GMT
Down has a 100% record against Kerry in the C'ship Kerry has a 100% record in the 1/4 finals.
This is Down's 1st year getting to a 1/4 final. This is Kerry's 10th year getting to a 1/4 final.
This is Down's 2nd game in Croke Park since 1994. This is Kerry's 45th game in Croke Park since 1994.
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Post by blackandgreen on Jul 27, 2010 9:28:22 GMT
Iarnrod Eireann. It doesn't specify that it's a special or anything but I presume it must be. The regular train was booked up yesterday and there was a change at Mallow. www.irishrail.ie/home/#[/quote]Cheers for that Delorean. It looks like a Special alrite as the price is cheaper than normal but the train back in the evening is booked out which just makes things awkward!!!
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Post by Johnnyb on Jul 27, 2010 9:31:26 GMT
Lovely post Veteran, but fcuk it you have me spooked...
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 27, 2010 9:38:49 GMT
Down has a 100% record against Kerry in the C'ship Kerry has a 100% record in the 1/4 finals. This is Down's 1st year getting to a 1/4 final. This is Kerry's 10th year getting to a 1/4 final. This is Down's 2nd game in Croke Park since 1994. This is Kerry's 45th game in Croke Park since 1994. They have been a couple of league finals, but no game anything like the atmosphere or intensity of next saturday. Those stats are phenomenal, what I wonder were the comparative stats in 1991?
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Post by bilythewalsh on Jul 27, 2010 9:42:16 GMT
Most of the publicans are western, Cavan or Munster men who own all the best properties and land in south Dublin. Is that how they did it? They must have got out the magic wands alright. No doubt they would claim that the loss of their Landsdowne Road regulars to Croke Park for the past few years has brought them to their knees. Or so they would have us believe!
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 27, 2010 9:46:40 GMT
Iarnrod Eireann. It doesn't specify that it's a special or anything but I presume it must be. The regular train was booked up yesterday and there was a change at Mallow. www.irishrail.ie/home/#Cheers for that Delorean. It looks like a Special alrite as the price is cheaper than normal but the train back in the evening is booked out which just makes things awkward!!![/quote] Can you not get somebody to look after the green&goldfish for one night?! Alternatively get one of the many Limerick/Cork trains up the Junction and take a bus onwards. Or just take a bus! It's a long journey but the eggs justifies the beans
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Post by redonion on Jul 27, 2010 9:47:35 GMT
Views up here about match well we love the massive underdog tag, what have we to loose and if we win then the sky is the limit.What annoys us the much is the constant slagging off from critics admit in the past it was fully justified but the league this year and promotion to div 1 and now the quarter finals beckons.Our midfield is strong they dont stop going from end to end and our fowards can cut loose if given the right ball and i am not just going on result against sligo.However the back line can leak but wee james has been working on it big time using colgan as sweeper and now gordan is full back 6 2 and he can catch a ball ex midfielder so he can handle himself. All in all we are up against it big time maybe a year to early but believe me we are coming in force and with are nordy neighbours along side the colour and noise we will make well you never know an dun abu
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 27, 2010 9:49:04 GMT
Most of the publicans are western, Cavan or Munster men who own all the best properties and land in south Dublin. Is that how they did it? They must have got out the magic wands alright. No doubt they would claim that the loss of their Landsdowne Road regulars to Croke Park for the past few years has brought them to their knees. Or so they would have us believe! It was a great time for the north city, a short golden era for an area that has been very neglected for so long. Still, I prefer The Bridge Tavern, The Big Tree and McGrath's any day to Kiely's, Bellamy's and the like. Crowes is alright though, when Leinster are playing Munster
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 27, 2010 9:53:37 GMT
Views up here about match well we love the massive underdog tag, what have we to loose and if we win then the sky is the limit.What annoys us the much is the constant slagging off from critics admit in the past it was fully justified but the league this year and promotion to div 1 and now the quarter finals beckons.Our midfield is strong they dont stop going from end to end and our fowards can cut loose if given the right ball and i am not just going on result against sligo.However the back line can leak but wee james has been working on it big time using colgan as sweeper and now gordan is full back 6 2 and he can catch a ball ex midfielder so he can handle himself. All in all we are up against it big time maybe a year to early but believe me we are coming in force and with are nordy neighbours along side the colour and noise we will make well you never know an dun abu Wilkommen und bienvenu Onion. Enjoy the great chat and banter over the next few days and hopefully stick around after to swell the mix of ethnic minorities on here Look forward to getting revenge over yis in the Final
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Post by redonion on Jul 27, 2010 9:58:42 GMT
we might even bring our auld friend agent paddy o rourke called home after doing a great job with dear armagh dumped by dublin smiles all around in the mournes lol
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Post by Jo90 on Jul 27, 2010 10:07:05 GMT
Down has a 100% record against Kerry in the C'ship Kerry has a 100% record in the 1/4 finals. This is Down's 1st year getting to a 1/4 final. This is Kerry's 10th year getting to a 1/4 final. This is Down's 2nd game in Croke Park since 1994. This is Kerry's 45th game in Croke Park since 1994. They have been a couple of league finals, but no game anything like the atmosphere or intensity of next saturday. Those stats are phenomenal, what I wonder were the comparative stats in 1991? Yeah, I meant c'ship games in Croke Park. Kerry's last meeting with Down was a league 1/4 final in '97 which I think was in Croke Park and Kerry won 1-18 to 0-10. In 2010 looking back at the last 45 Games in Croke Park stretches back only 14 years for Kerry. In 1994 it stretched back 40 years.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 27, 2010 10:07:50 GMT
another aside, the usual story of everyone else in stadium shouting on down too! dubs and tyrone certainly won't be cheering us on remember the munster final this year, and a lad in an armagh shirt was sitting in front of us, roaring on limerick- sorry we had to disappoint him! I sincerely doubt it. We don't owe Down anything other than a bit of admiration, just a little bit mind, for their achievements. That's all I'll say for now on the matter. And I cannot envisage Kerry allowing waht they might see as Cork having an "easy" (considering how they beat Tyrone last year, and the thought that Kildare, Down, or a mediocre Meath would be their opponents in the final) route to an All-I title, that alone will be worth a few kilojoules in energy to the Kingdom
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Post by blackandgreen on Jul 27, 2010 10:14:16 GMT
From Hoganstand.com
O'Mahony in line for Kerry return 27 July 2010
Aidan O'Mahony could make a dramatic return to the Kerry team against Down on Saturday.
The Rathmore clubman hasn't featured in this year's championship so far after missing the early rounds because of a self-imposed exile. He quit the panel at the end of the National League for personal reasons, but returned before the Munster final success against Limerick.
And with Tomas O Se serving a four-week suspension, allied to injuries to Padraig Reidy (knee) and Daniel Bohane (hip), the way has been paved for O'Mahony to make a sensational return to the Kerry half back line.
With Micheal Quirke hampered by a calf injury, Kingdom boss Jack O'Connor may opt for a midfield consisting of Seamus Scanlon and David Moran. With Paul Galvin also suspended, last year's All-Ireland winning captain Darran O'Sullivan is set to continue in the number 10 jersey with Donncha Walsh on the opposite wing.
Remarkably, Kerry have never beaten Down in the championship, having lost their previous four meetings, the most recent of which was in 1991 when Peter Whitnell inspired the Mournemen to a 2-9 to 0-8 All-Ireland semi-final victory.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jul 27, 2010 10:22:15 GMT
Living on the County Down side of Belfast I get quite a few remarks the last few days as most of my friends say that they are not afraid of us at all. Down's greatest strength is their believe in themselves and the fact they operate as a unit. Brolly made a good point last week that it used to be in Tyrone that they would fight each other fiercely in the county championship and there was no unity in the intercounty team. They sorted that out and the guys know fight just as fiercely for their county as they do for their club in the county championship. It's the same in Down at the moment. As a unit they are very strong and very skilled and they have a few really good players; not just Coulter but also Ronan Murtagh, Martin Clarke, John Clarke, Rogers, Daniel Hughes, Mark Poland and McComiskey. Kerry will have their hands full but I believe we can do it.
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Post by Dermot on Jul 27, 2010 10:24:13 GMT
Rugby game on in new Landsdowne Road Saturday as well, Dublin publicans will be licking their lips. Usually Dublin is quiet bank holiday weekends. Maybe not this time. Most of the publicans are western, Cavan or Munster men who own all the best properties and land in south Dublin. Is that how they did it? About the 90s Down team, and comments above that they should have won more - most people have agreed that Derry were the best team in Ulster in that era but didn't get the breaks that Down got. Meath were a spent force by the 91 final, and Dublin should have beaten Down in 94, threw it away. Also I think Down had a couple of nice runs to what was then an extremely tough Ulster Champ, whereas Derry got alot of hard draws Can't totally agree with you there Rashers ... You're right in that the Derry team underperformed and should have won more AI's, mostly because of internal arguments etc.. but the Down team were a terrific outfit too. Greg blaney, Peter Whitnal, Conor Deegan, Ross Carr, Wee James McCartan, Mickey Linden etc... They were great players. I can remember us playing them in the semi (I think it was) in 94 ... I just remember seeing the Down team come onto the field and just knew that we were in for a hiding ... It honestly was like men against boys that day .. I couldn't get over the size difference for a start .. they just looked so much bigger all over the field and they really had the swagger that day .. Ominous for the start and as I though they kicked our arses ! Also, there's still many folk that say that one of the best games they ever saw was the Ulster final in 1994 between these 2 teams which Down just about won.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 27, 2010 10:28:47 GMT
They have been a couple of league finals, but no game anything like the atmosphere or intensity of next saturday. Those stats are phenomenal, what I wonder were the comparative stats in 1991? Yeah, I meant c'ship games in Croke Park. Kerry's last meeting with Down was a league 1/4 final in '97 which I think was in Croke Park and Kerry won 1-18 to 0-10. In 2010 looking back at the last 45 Games in Croke Park stretches back only 14 years for Kerry. In 1994 it stretched back 40 years. Well I'll try racking my severely atrophied memory! Between 1968 and the 1991 semi (a nicely comparable 23 years), Kerry played 28 times at least (don't know if they had any semi-final replays), losing only 4, in champ in Croker, whilst Down had been in 3 games, losing all three. I think your main stat should stretch from 91 (last Kerry-Down meeting) to this year, in which case it's 45 games for Kerry in 19 years and 4 for Down (won 3 and lost one I think?)
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Post by Dermot on Jul 27, 2010 10:33:32 GMT
Views up here about match well we love the massive underdog tag, what have we to loose and if we win then the sky is the limit.What annoys us the much is the constant slagging off from critics admit in the past it was fully justified but the league this year and promotion to div 1 and now the quarter finals beckons.Our midfield is strong they dont stop going from end to end and our fowards can cut loose if given the right ball and i am not just going on result against sligo.However the back line can leak but wee james has been working on it big time using colgan as sweeper and now gordan is full back 6 2 and he can catch a ball ex midfielder so he can handle himself. All in all we are up against it big time maybe a year to early but believe me we are coming in force and with are nordy neighbours along side the colour and noise we will make well you never know an dun abu Hi Redonion .. I'm a Tyrone man and I'll be cheering yez on (Would always cheers on the Ulster team unless its Derry ;D .. I'd say Kerry ones would do the same unless its Cork and vice versa) ... Will it be reciprocated do you think ?
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 27, 2010 10:36:58 GMT
Most of the publicans are western, Cavan or Munster men who own all the best properties and land in south Dublin. Is that how they did it? About the 90s Down team, and comments above that they should have won more - most people have agreed that Derry were the best team in Ulster in that era but didn't get the breaks that Down got. Meath were a spent force by the 91 final, and Dublin should have beaten Down in 94, threw it away. Also I think Down had a couple of nice runs to what was then an extremely tough Ulster Champ, whereas Derry got alot of hard draws Can't totally agree with you there Rashers ... You're right in that the Derry team underperformed and should have won more AI's, mostly because of internal arguments etc.. but the Down team were a terrific outfit too. Greg blaney, Peter Whitnal, Conor Deegan, Ross Carr, Wee James McCartan, Mickey Linden etc... They were great players. I can remember us playing them in the semi (I think it was) in 94 ... I just remember seeing the Down team come onto the field and just knew that we were in for a hiding ... It honestly was like men against boys that day .. I couldn't get over the size difference for a start .. they just looked so much bigger all over the field and they really had the swagger that day .. Ominous for the start and as I though they kicked our arses ! Also, there's still many folk that say that one of the best games they ever saw was the Ulster final in 1994 between these 2 teams which Down just about won. That Down-Derry game was one of the greats alright. No doubts that Down had some great players, I think Mickey Linden was the best of any player I can think of from that era, O'Rourke, Tompkins, Henry Downey, Paul Curran, and perhaps Martin O'Connell and Teddy McCarthy being the others on teams that made it to semis and finals. Dessie Farrell was close, and "Wee"(in heighth not width!) James McC and Blaney. I think Mickey Linden and Padraic Joyce along with MFR and Maurice Fitz and The Pony, and of course Paul Curran, Larry Tompkins and Henry Downey were the best players I saw in the 90s. Michael Donnellan for a brief period. O'Rourke was past his best. Maybe throw in Earley for Kildare, Liam McHale, Geraghty, McDermott, and the Offaly lad, Claffey, of those that I saw a good bit of. Tony Boyle of Donegal too, who would you say were best players in Ulster in that era Dermo?
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Post by redonion on Jul 27, 2010 10:47:57 GMT
yo dermot up tyrone getting red and white headband for top of flag will you be getting red and black one
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Post by Dermot on Jul 27, 2010 10:49:48 GMT
Can't totally agree with you there Rashers ... You're right in that the Derry team underperformed and should have won more AI's, mostly because of internal arguments etc.. but the Down team were a terrific outfit too. Greg blaney, Peter Whitnal, Conor Deegan, Ross Carr, Wee James McCartan, Mickey Linden etc... They were great players. I can remember us playing them in the semi (I think it was) in 94 ... I just remember seeing the Down team come onto the field and just knew that we were in for a hiding ... It honestly was like men against boys that day .. I couldn't get over the size difference for a start .. they just looked so much bigger all over the field and they really had the swagger that day .. Ominous for the start and as I though they kicked our arses ! Also, there's still many folk that say that one of the best games they ever saw was the Ulster final in 1994 between these 2 teams which Down just about won. That Down-Derry game was one of the greats alright. No doubts that Down had some great players, I think Mickey Linden was the best of any player I can think of from that era, O'Rourke, Tompkins, Henry Downey, Paul Curran, and perhaps Martin O'Connell and Teddy McCarthy being the others on teams that made it to semis and finals. Dessie Farrell was close, and "Wee"(in heighth not width!) James McC and Ambrose. I think Mickey Linden and Padraic Joyce along with MFR and Maurice Fitz and The Pony, and of course Paul Curran, Larry Tompkins and Henry Downey were the best players I saw in the 90s. Michael Donnellan for a brief period. O'Rourke was past his best. Maybe throw in Earley for Kildare, Liam McHale, Geraghty, McDermott, and the Offaly lad, Claffey, of those that I saw a good bit of They were all great players Rashers but without a doubt the best of the 90's was our very own "God" ... Peter Canavan ... Now he was something else ! I'll put my hard hat on now and run for cover
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Post by Dermot on Jul 27, 2010 10:53:29 GMT
yo dermot up tyrone getting red and white headband for top of flag will you be getting red and black one ;D ...Yeah right Redonion .... I've an awful feeling that we'll support you lot but when it comes to the crunch yous wont return the favour ..... I wish Down were playing first ;D
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Post by ardfertnarrie on Jul 27, 2010 10:54:09 GMT
You'd better run Dermot! Good draw for Kerry, but bad time for me. I've a wedding at 2pm on Saturday, in Killarney. Oh well, will have to slip out of the chuch before the bride arrives. Shure nobody will notice!
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jul 27, 2010 10:57:30 GMT
You'd better run Dermot! Good draw for Kerry, but bad time for me. I've a wedding at 2pm on Saturday, in Killarney. Oh well, will have to slip out of the chuch before the bride arrives. Shure nobody will notice! as long as you're not the groom ;D
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Post by Dermot on Jul 27, 2010 10:58:38 GMT
You'd better run Dermot! Good draw for Kerry, but bad time for me. I've a wedding at 2pm on Saturday, in Killarney. Oh well, will have to slip out of the chuch before the bride arrives. Shure nobody will notice! Ah dont talk to me ... I have a meeting in London this Friday and I'm staying with a brother on Friday night and flying home the next day at 16.50 ... and its with Ryanair so feck know what they'll charge to get it changed ... Am I p1ssed off or what .... I may just have to come home and NOT answer my phone or look at messages, dont talk to anyone or listen to anyones conversations ... run into the house and lock myself in a room to watch the recording ... Not perfect but it may be my only option
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jul 27, 2010 11:11:46 GMT
we'll miss you Dermot Won't have the laptop with me this weekend otherwise I'd send you a PM. I'm actually meeting up with some Tyronies as well before or after the match and I guess I'll share the bus with the men from the mournes.
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Post by Dermot on Jul 27, 2010 11:16:32 GMT
we'll miss you Dermot Won't have the laptop with me this weekend otherwise I'd send you a PM. I'm actually meeting up with some Tyronies as well before or after the match and I guess I'll share the bus with the men from the mournes. I nearly fell off my chair when I saw our game was on Saturday ... I'm stupid really as I should have thought of that eventuality when booking my bloody ticket ... I hope its not a bad omen .... The last time I missed seeing (on TV or in person) a Tyrone match I was on an oil rig ,, I rang home every fifteen minutes on a satellite phone to hear the score of the 1996 Tyrone v Meatch semi final and we all know how that ended up
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Post by mozzy on Jul 27, 2010 11:21:36 GMT
Has anyone any news from training?
This is going to be a tough match - we are not the team of 12 months ago but I truly hope the lads do it for two reasons - Paul and Tomas.
Again, if anyone has any updates on training and who is looking good etc, would be appreciated.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 27, 2010 11:25:16 GMT
That Down-Derry game was one of the greats alright. No doubts that Down had some great players, I think Mickey Linden was the best of any player I can think of from that era, O'Rourke, Tompkins, Henry Downey, Paul Curran, and perhaps Martin O'Connell and Teddy McCarthy being the others on teams that made it to semis and finals. Dessie Farrell was close, and "Wee"(in heighth not width!) James McC and Ambrose. I think Mickey Linden and Padraic Joyce along with MFR and Maurice Fitz and The Pony, and of course Paul Curran, Larry Tompkins and Henry Downey were the best players I saw in the 90s. Michael Donnellan for a brief period. O'Rourke was past his best. Maybe throw in Earley for Kildare, Liam McHale, Geraghty, McDermott, and the Offaly lad, Claffey, of those that I saw a good bit of They were all great players Rashers but without a doubt the best of the 90's was our very own "God" ... Peter Canavan ... Now he was something else ! I'll put my hard hat on now and run for cover Ah of course, I keep thinking of him as the last decade! Still, make an effort there Dermo and tell me your best OTHER Ulster players, and any other players, from the 90s
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 27, 2010 12:00:15 GMT
Views up here about match well we love the massive underdog tag, what have we to loose and if we win then the sky is the limit.What annoys us the much is the constant slagging off from critics admit in the past it was fully justified but the league this year and promotion to div 1 and now the quarter finals beckons.Our midfield is strong they dont stop going from end to end and our fowards can cut loose if given the right ball and i am not just going on result against sligo.However the back line can leak but wee james has been working on it big time using colgan as sweeper and now gordan is full back 6 2 and he can catch a ball ex midfielder so he can handle himself. All in all we are up against it big time maybe a year to early but believe me we are coming in force and with are nordy neighbours along side the colour and noise we will make well you never know an dun abu welcome! How many of the Down minor team that won the All Ireland a few years ago are playing/on the panel. That team took Mayo apart in the final. Not sure which year....... I think Martin Clarke was playing that day. Any chance that Mickey Linden will appear..... I wouldnt be surprised. Mickey Linden and Padraic Joyce are two of my all time favourites from outside Kerry
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Post by ardfertnarrie on Jul 27, 2010 12:06:48 GMT
Lots of talk that O'Mahony will fill in for Tomás and that won't really surprise anyone. He may even start at CHB and Mike Mac move to the wing. What may surprise people is that Moran could be starting at MF.
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