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Post by hurlingman on Oct 9, 2024 7:06:02 GMT
Very impressed with cordal Sean o Connell at midfield I believe jack should try him out in the league. Very strong in the air and well able to kick a point. Won clubber man of the match for Kieran’s 2 times during their outing getting the better of st Brendan’s And Kerry’s Joe O Connor In One Of The Games Has anyone else seen him play? Was A Kerry U17 Captain In 2017 Was he playing with Tipp a few years ago? |
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 9, 2024 7:06:59 GMT
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Post by mike70 on Oct 9, 2024 7:18:48 GMT
I think young Burke is gone, that’s the word for a long time now.
With the pending rule changes, I must say that I am optimistic for a better football style in the year ahead, looking forward to seeing the provincial games take place and show case the rules.
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Post by diego on Oct 9, 2024 7:29:34 GMT
Very impressed with cordal Sean o Connell at midfield I believe jack should try him out in the league. Very strong in the air and well able to kick a point. Won clubber man of the match for Kieran’s 2 times during their outing getting the better of st Brendan’s And Kerry’s Joe O Connor In One Of The Games Has anyone else seen him play? Was A Kerry U17 Captain In 2017 Ya he had a fine game the last day. Has senior intercounty experience also from his sojourn in Tipperary. |
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Post by listowelemerrs on Oct 9, 2024 9:03:46 GMT
Kerry Group and people that care about Kerry football seriously need to have an emergency meeting and sort out the mess that is players going to the AFL.
Why is playing AFL more attractive than playing for Kerry?
Can Kerry group or anyone connected with the Kerry football institution put a stop to this travesty?
That’s Rob monahan gone along with Cillian Burke ? Our 2 future stars not to mention Tommy Walsh and Marc o Connor in the past… I as a Kerry supporter am sick of it..
Charlie Keating will probably go too and many more standout youngsters
If this keeps continuing.. backward Kerry gaa delegates have their head in the sand.
Why does Dublin never suffer from AFL poaching? Becasue they sort and treat their players well.
I don’t want to hear this statement of oh best of luck to them they’re getting paid … they’ll be on rookie contract with average salary for a year or so before they even make it.
Kerry county board are not doing enough.. I’m very depressed about the year ahead.
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Oct 9, 2024 9:42:23 GMT
]I don’t want to hear this statement of oh best of luck to them they’re getting paid … they’ll be on rookie contract with average salary for a year or so before they even make it. Kerry county board are not doing enough.. I’m very depressed about the year ahead. They get 70 grand a year with all expenses paid.. at home they’d be in college so wouldn’t even be making money. Agree though it’s depressing losing nearly every exceptional athlete we produce who could have gone on to be outstanding Kerry players. |
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 9, 2024 10:20:47 GMT
Kerry Group and people that care about Kerry football seriously need to have an emergency meeting and sort out the mess that is players going to the AFL. Why is playing AFL more attractive than playing for Kerry? Can Kerry group or anyone connected with the Kerry football institution put a stop to this travesty? That’s Rob monahan gone along with Cillian Burke ? Our 2 future stars not to mention Tommy Walsh and Marc o Connor in the past… I as a Kerry supporter am sick of it.. Charlie Keating will probably go too and many more standout youngsters If this keeps continuing.. backward Kerry gaa delegates have their head in the sand. Why does Dublin never suffer from AFL poaching? Becasue they sort and treat their players well. I don’t want to hear this statement of oh best of luck to them they’re getting paid … they’ll be on rookie contract with average salary for a year or so before they even make it. Kerry county board are not doing enough.. I’m very depressed about the year ahead. The Dublin CB have career guidance people who will set down with young players and show them how they might not benefit in the long run. The Kerry CB in recent times only think in the short term. That's why there's been a scramble for good candidates for the senior job. It's something I don't see changing any time soon either. |
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Oct 9, 2024 10:40:22 GMT
Dublin simply aren’t producing Burke, Monahans, Kennedys etc. at the moment. It’s as simple as the Aussies aren’t interested in any of their players not anything else.
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Post by veteran on Oct 9, 2024 10:59:22 GMT
Don’t worry , everything will be fine. I read somewhere recently that they are thinking of reviving the Ireland/Australian games. What could go wrong.
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 9, 2024 11:09:15 GMT
Dublin simply aren’t producing Burke, Monahans, Kennedys etc. at the moment. It’s as simple as the Aussies aren’t interested in any of their players not anything else. It's not that simple really. Dublin of the 2010s had plenty of lads who would have been suited for it. Kilkenny was there for a short while before coming back. |
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Post by kerrylad38 on Oct 9, 2024 11:23:32 GMT
Great to see Paul Walsh in flying form for Kieran’s in their games surely jack will call him in for training and try him out in the league
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Post by thehermit on Oct 9, 2024 11:43:01 GMT
Kerry Group and people that care about Kerry football seriously need to have an emergency meeting and sort out the mess that is players going to the AFL. Why is playing AFL more attractive than playing for Kerry? Can Kerry group or anyone connected with the Kerry football institution put a stop to this travesty? That’s Rob monahan gone along with Cillian Burke ? Our 2 future stars not to mention Tommy Walsh and Marc o Connor in the past… I as a Kerry supporter am sick of it.. Charlie Keating will probably go too and many more standout youngsters If this keeps continuing.. backward Kerry gaa delegates have their head in the sand. Why does Dublin never suffer from AFL poaching? Becasue they sort and treat their players well. I don’t want to hear this statement of oh best of luck to them they’re getting paid … they’ll be on rookie contract with average salary for a year or so before they even make it. Kerry county board are not doing enough.. I’m very depressed about the year ahead. Agree 100% with this, the one bright star in the often black void of Kerry's 2024 AI campaign was Cillian and now we are being robbed of his talent and what could be a brilliant Kerry career for Aussie gold. You just wonder where all this is going. How has donning the Green and Gold and being potentially part of a Kerry All Ireland winning team fallen so low on the priorities of our best young footballers? As you rightly say, Dublin were never impacted by this and after O'Connor was stolen the CB should have put something in place to help convince other would be Kerry stars that their professional and sporting careers could be just as satisfied at home. You wonder sometimes if we'll ever dominate Gaelic football again the way the landscape is changing  |
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Post by listowelemerrs on Oct 9, 2024 12:04:02 GMT
Kerry Group and people that care about Kerry football seriously need to have an emergency meeting and sort out the mess that is players going to the AFL. Why is playing AFL more attractive than playing for Kerry? Can Kerry group or anyone connected with the Kerry football institution put a stop to this travesty? That’s Rob monahan gone along with Cillian Burke ? Our 2 future stars not to mention Tommy Walsh and Marc o Connor in the past… I as a Kerry supporter am sick of it.. Charlie Keating will probably go too and many more standout youngsters If this keeps continuing.. backward Kerry gaa delegates have their head in the sand. Why does Dublin never suffer from AFL poaching? Becasue they sort and treat their players well. I don’t want to hear this statement of oh best of luck to them they’re getting paid … they’ll be on rookie contract with average salary for a year or so before they even make it. Kerry county board are not doing enough.. I’m very depressed about the year ahead. Agree 100% with this, the one bright star in the often black void of Kerry's 2024 AI campaign was Cillian and now we are being robbed of his talent and what could be a brilliant Kerry career for Aussie gold. You just wonder where all this is going. How has donning the Green and Gold and being potentially part of a Kerry All Ireland winning team fallen so low on the priorities of our best young footballers? As you rightly say, Dublin were never impacted by this and after O'Connor was stolen the CB should have put something in place to help convince other would be Kerry stars that their professional and sporting careers could be just as satisfied at home. You wonder sometimes if we'll ever dominate Gaelic football again the way the landscape is changing It’s very saddening. The GAA seriously need to do something, I see Derry potentially loosing Eoin Mcevoy and Monaghan also loosing another star. But we seem to most hit always. Tomas Kennedy will likely go too in a year or 2. I was dreaming of David and Paudie Clifford forward line supported by Rob monahan , Tomas Kennedy and Cillian Burke.. imagine that? We will never see it sadly. |
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Post by jerryewe on Oct 9, 2024 12:19:53 GMT
Ya he had a fine game the last day. Has senior intercounty experience also from his sojourn in Tipperary. How did Sean O Connell play with Tipp, out of curiousity? Did he transfer or was it through parents? |
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Post by kerryexile on Oct 9, 2024 12:53:14 GMT
Kerry Group and people that care about Kerry football seriously need to have an emergency meeting and sort out the mess that is players going to the AFL. Why is playing AFL more attractive than playing for Kerry? Can Kerry group or anyone connected with the Kerry football institution put a stop to this travesty? That’s Rob monahan gone along with Cillian Burke ? Our 2 future stars not to mention Tommy Walsh and Marc o Connor in the past… I as a Kerry supporter am sick of it.. Charlie Keating will probably go too and many more standout youngsters If this keeps continuing.. backward Kerry gaa delegates have their head in the sand. Why does Dublin never suffer from AFL poaching? Becasue they sort and treat their players well. I don’t want to hear this statement of oh best of luck to them they’re getting paid … they’ll be on rookie contract with average salary for a year or so before they even make it. Kerry county board are not doing enough.. I’m very depressed about the year ahead. I agree with you 100%. One thing I think that should happen is that any player who goes to Australia and stays more than 2 years should be banned from playing with Kerry again. They abandon Kerry for perceived fame and/ or wealth at the other side of the world and then think they can strut back into the county panel and pick up an All-Ireland medal to complete their collection at the expense of a players who has been loyal to the GAA and hasn't been paid a cent. I would give them 2 years because a young fella can have his head turned, but if they choose to give the best part of their career to another sport they live with the consequences. Kennelly set a terrible example. The dogs in the street know that Marc O'Connor is courting Dingle while he is biding his time to come back and complete his collection. WHERE IS HE THIS WEEKEND WHEN THEY NEED HIM IN ONE OF THE MOST CRUCIAL GAMES THEY WILL PLAY DURING THE COURSE HIS ABSENCE? |
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Post by sayitasiseeit on Oct 9, 2024 15:17:00 GMT
Kerry Group and people that care about Kerry football seriously need to have an emergency meeting and sort out the mess that is players going to the AFL. Why is playing AFL more attractive than playing for Kerry? Can Kerry group or anyone connected with the Kerry football institution put a stop to this travesty? That’s Rob monahan gone along with Cillian Burke ? Our 2 future stars not to mention Tommy Walsh and Marc o Connor in the past… I as a Kerry supporter am sick of it.. Charlie Keating will probably go too and many more standout youngsters If this keeps continuing.. backward Kerry gaa delegates have their head in the sand. Why does Dublin never suffer from AFL poaching? Becasue they sort and treat their players well. I don’t want to hear this statement of oh best of luck to them they’re getting paid … they’ll be on rookie contract with average salary for a year or so before they even make it. Kerry county board are not doing enough.. I’m very depressed about the year ahead. I agree with you 100%. One thing I think that should happen is that any player who goes to Australia and stays more than 2 years should be banned from playing with Kerry again. They abandon Kerry for perceived fame and/ or wealth at the other side of the world and then think they can strut back into the county panel and pick up an All-Ireland medal to complete their collection at the expense of a players who has been loyal to the GAA and hasn't been paid a cent. I would give them 2 years because a young fella can have his head turned, but if they choose to give the best part of their career to another sport they live with the consequences. Kennelly set a terrible example. The dogs in the street know that Marc O'Connor is courting Dingle while he is biding his time to come back and complete his collection. WHERE IS HE THIS WEEKEND WHEN THEY NEED HIM IN ONE OF THE MOST CRUCIAL GAMES THEY WILL PLAY DURING THE COURSE HIS ABSENCE?I’ve no connection to Dingle but that’s an awful rant towards Mark O Connor. It’s widely known that man has undergone surgery lately. As far as I know he had his wrist reconstructed!!! He might have actually undergone two surgeries, I could be wrong there. But he’s definitely had one. I’d forgive him for not playing!!! What that man did for Dingle the past 7 or 8 years was amazing. While all of his peers were off resting and having an off season. Lying on beaches around the world. He was putting his lot in with his club, in horrendous weather and playing game after game. Only to return back to Australia and head straight back into pre season in a career that supports his livelihood. He’s a huge loss to Kerry and if he ever returns i’d only be delighted to see him try to make a go with Kerry again. It would be a very tall order for him with no certainty that he’d be a star in Gaelic Football again. If he had stayed around. He would have been a nationwide name. I’ve no doubt of that. But he chose to play a professional sport, in a different country where he has excelled. Congrats to him. |
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Oct 9, 2024 16:11:13 GMT
Dublin simply aren’t producing Burke, Monahans, Kennedys etc. at the moment. It’s as simple as the Aussies aren’t interested in any of their players not anything else. It's not that simple really. Dublin of the 2010s had plenty of lads who would have been suited for it. Kilkenny was there for a short while before coming back. Feels like recruitment has ramped up, there’s a few going every year now while maybe one every two years at the time when Kilkenny, Fenton, Howard, McCaffrey etc. were young? |
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Oct 9, 2024 16:12:28 GMT
Kerry Group and people that care about Kerry football seriously need to have an emergency meeting and sort out the mess that is players going to the AFL. Why is playing AFL more attractive than playing for Kerry? Can Kerry group or anyone connected with the Kerry football institution put a stop to this travesty? That’s Rob monahan gone along with Cillian Burke ? Our 2 future stars not to mention Tommy Walsh and Marc o Connor in the past… I as a Kerry supporter am sick of it.. Charlie Keating will probably go too and many more standout youngsters If this keeps continuing.. backward Kerry gaa delegates have their head in the sand. Why does Dublin never suffer from AFL poaching? Becasue they sort and treat their players well. I don’t want to hear this statement of oh best of luck to them they’re getting paid … they’ll be on rookie contract with average salary for a year or so before they even make it. Kerry county board are not doing enough.. I’m very depressed about the year ahead. I agree with you 100%. . The dogs in the street know that Marc O'Connor is courting Dingle while he is biding his time to come back and complete his collection. WHERE IS HE THIS WEEKEND WHEN THEY NEED HIM IN ONE OF THE MOST CRUCIAL GAMES THEY WILL PLAY DURING THE COURSE HIS ABSENCE?What does “Mark O’Connor is courting Dingle” mean? |
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Oct 9, 2024 16:14:38 GMT
Agree 100% with this, the one bright star in the often black void of Kerry's 2024 AI campaign was Cillian and now we are being robbed of his talent and what could be a brilliant Kerry career for Aussie gold. You just wonder where all this is going. How has donning the Green and Gold and being potentially part of a Kerry All Ireland winning team fallen so low on the priorities of our best young footballers? As you rightly say, Dublin were never impacted by this and after O'Connor was stolen the CB should have put something in place to help convince other would be Kerry stars that their professional and sporting careers could be just as satisfied at home. You wonder sometimes if we'll ever dominate Gaelic football again the way the landscape is changing It’s very saddening. The GAA seriously need to do something, I see Derry potentially loosing Eoin Mcevoy and Monaghan also loosing another star. But we seem to most hit always. Tomas Kennedy will likely go too in a year or 2. I was dreaming of David and Paudie Clifford forward line supported by Rob monahan , Tomas Kennedy and Cillian Burke.. imagine that? We will never see it sadly. That half forward line could have been special.. perfect mix of athleticism and football. |
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Post by jerryewe on Oct 9, 2024 16:19:47 GMT
It's not that simple really. Dublin of the 2010s had plenty of lads who would have been suited for it. Kilkenny was there for a short while before coming back. Feels like recruitment has ramped up, there’s a few going every year now while maybe one every two years at the time when Kilkenny, Fenton, Howard, McCaffrey etc. were young? I also wonder is there social factors at play. It’s no secret that a lot of the Dublin players now come from upper class areas so maybe a rookie contract may not be as attractive to them with the risk of not making it. |
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 9, 2024 16:47:55 GMT
It's not that simple really. Dublin of the 2010s had plenty of lads who would have been suited for it. Kilkenny was there for a short while before coming back. Feels like recruitment has ramped up, there’s a few going every year now while maybe one every two years at the time when Kilkenny, Fenton, Howard, McCaffrey etc. were young? Definitely. Meath and Kildare particularly lost at lot of lads the last few years. |
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 9, 2024 16:52:36 GMT
Kerry Group and people that care about Kerry football seriously need to have an emergency meeting and sort out the mess that is players going to the AFL. Why is playing AFL more attractive than playing for Kerry? Can Kerry group or anyone connected with the Kerry football institution put a stop to this travesty? That’s Rob monahan gone along with Cillian Burke ? Our 2 future stars not to mention Tommy Walsh and Marc o Connor in the past… I as a Kerry supporter am sick of it.. Charlie Keating will probably go too and many more standout youngsters If this keeps continuing.. backward Kerry gaa delegates have their head in the sand. Why does Dublin never suffer from AFL poaching? Becasue they sort and treat their players well. I don’t want to hear this statement of oh best of luck to them they’re getting paid … they’ll be on rookie contract with average salary for a year or so before they even make it. Kerry county board are not doing enough.. I’m very depressed about the year ahead. I agree with you 100%. One thing I think that should happen is that any player who goes to Australia and stays more than 2 years should be banned from playing with Kerry again. They abandon Kerry for perceived fame and/ or wealth at the other side of the world and then think they can strut back into the county panel and pick up an All-Ireland medal to complete their collection at the expense of a players who has been loyal to the GAA and hasn't been paid a cent. I would give them 2 years because a young fella can have his head turned, but if they choose to give the best part of their career to another sport they live with the consequences. Kennelly set a terrible example. The dogs in the street know that Marc O'Connor is courting Dingle while he is biding his time to come back and complete his collection. WHERE IS HE THIS WEEKEND WHEN THEY NEED HIM IN ONE OF THE MOST CRUCIAL GAMES THEY WILL PLAY DURING THE COURSE HIS ABSENCE?Well banning players is not going to help anyone. However something I do have an issue with is lads coming back from Australia and being put straight back into a panel. Did Tommy Walsh no favours in 2015/16. I seen Zach Tuohy is talking about wanting to play with Laois now he's done in Australia. I can't imagine you'd be overly happy if you were 20/21 on the Laois panel if you lost your place to someone who just shows up after being away for years. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Oct 9, 2024 19:11:16 GMT
I'm sick of this aswell.
A certain Ex Kerry man who set the blue print for this by playing in Australia and then coming home having a bang average year and winning his All Ireland.
Then heading away back under again.
My issue is that as these players are not contracted the GAA get nothing out of this.
However these lads have had 1000s spent on them directly and indirectly via development squads.
They are ready made athletically for the AFL.
The AFL could be making some contribution back to the clubs these lads have left.
Best of luck to them but they've turned their back on Kerry yet they'll give some interview where they'll say they dream of playing for Kerry again.
You're grand lads.
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Post by horsebox77 on Oct 9, 2024 19:18:12 GMT
I'm sick of this aswell. A certain Ex Kerry man who set the blue print for this by playing in Australia and then coming home having a bang average year and winning his All Ireland. Then heading away back under again. My issue is that as these players are not contracted the GAA get nothing out of this. However these lads have had 1000s spent on them directly and indirectly via development squads. They are ready made athletically for the AFL. The AFL could be making some contribution back to the clubs these lads have left. Best of luck to them but they've turned their back on Kerry yet they'll give some interview where they'll say they dream of playing for Kerry again. You're grand lads. This is exactly how I feel, what's sickening for me is the County Board employed the NK man for a period before he turned Judas. It looks to me like we are being targeted more than any other county... in fairness the old chair from Brosna in his speech was advocating against repelling the Oz tide. |
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Post by Control8 on Oct 9, 2024 19:30:08 GMT
If a player is in a development squad, up to and including senior inter-county panel, then a set fee should be in place for any sporting outfit wishing to take that player out of the squad. Whether that be London GAA, USA GAA or Aussie Rules (or golf, even) the fee applies.
Say 100k.
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Post by ciarraimick on Oct 9, 2024 19:58:42 GMT
Dublin simply aren’t producing Burke, Monahans, Kennedys etc. at the moment. It’s as simple as the Aussies aren’t interested in any of their players not anything else. It's not that simple really. Dublin of the 2010s had plenty of lads who would have been suited for it. Kilkenny was there for a short while before coming back. Alot of counties are losing players to OZ but we seem to be losing our top talent. Dublin did lose James Madden a few years ago (that was highly spoken of) but he is returning back now to concentrate on gaa.He is just 24 years old. Cillian Burke would be a huge loss for us. |
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Post by southward on Oct 9, 2024 20:03:57 GMT
If a player is in a development squad, up to and including senior inter-county panel, then a set fee should be in place for any sporting outfit wishing to take that player out of the squad. Whether that be London GAA, USA GAA or Aussie Rules (or golf, even) the fee applies. Say 100k. Appreciate the sentiment here but might the temptation then arise for less affluent clubs or counties to start breeding and marketing for export, so to speak? And thereby actually exacerbating the problem. Personally, I don't buy into all this.. good luck to the young lad, great opportunity.. blah blah guff. Or worse, the - will he, won't he come back next year, some day, wait by the window pining for the Messiah nonsense. It's embarrassing. Lads can do what they want but if a fella turns his back on the GAA, that's it as far as I'm concerned. I don't wish him well, I don't wish him ill, I just don't care. And I'd have no interest in having him back, ever. |
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Post by mainevalley on Oct 9, 2024 20:38:13 GMT
If a player is in a development squad, up to and including senior inter-county panel, then a set fee should be in place for any sporting outfit wishing to take that player out of the squad. Whether that be London GAA, USA GAA or Aussie Rules (or golf, even) the fee applies. Say 100k. I like it but then amateur status of players comes into question big time and you would have no choice but to pay players then |
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Post by sayitasiseeit on Oct 9, 2024 21:13:14 GMT
If a player is in a development squad, up to and including senior inter-county panel, then a set fee should be in place for any sporting outfit wishing to take that player out of the squad. Whether that be London GAA, USA GAA or Aussie Rules (or golf, even) the fee applies. Say 100k. Appreciate the sentiment here but might the temptation then arise for less affluent clubs or counties to start breeding and marketing for export, so to speak? And thereby actually exacerbating the problem. Personally, I don't buy into all this.. good luck to the young lad, great opportunity.. blah blah guff. Or worse, the - will he, won't he come back next year, some day, wait by the window pining for the Messiah nonsense. It's embarrassing. Lads can do what they want but if a fella turns his back on the GAA, that's it as far as I'm concerned. I don't wish him well, I don't wish him ill, I just don't care. And I'd have no interest in having him back, ever. Silly Talk about turning your back on the GAA. It’s not black and white. People have to get in to the real world as well. I’m sure the likes of Mark O Connor would have loved to have played for Kerry with the last 7-8 years. The reality is this; that man will likely make €2 million (rough guess) if he plays 10 years of AFL. The majority of his expenses are also paid for while he’s playing. Geelong put him through university as well. He’s set for life while living the dream of being a pro Athlete. Playing for Kerry is a privilege but being a pro athlete, having the time to rest and recover without trying to work a full time job. It’s a very hard one to turn down. It can’t be classified as turning your back on GAA. It’s not like for like. The Intrinsic rewards for playing Gaelic Football would undoubtedly be stronger for most players. But there’s no comparison when it comes to the Extrinsic rewards……lifestyle, financial security etc etc. It’s unfortunate that we’re being targeted like we are. Unfortunately if we aren’t performing at senior intercounty level the way we are accustomed to, or feel we should. More and more of our younger talents will find it an even easier decision to take that route to Australia |
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Post by likeitornot on Oct 9, 2024 21:41:39 GMT
It's not that simple really. Dublin of the 2010s had plenty of lads who would have been suited for it. Kilkenny was there for a short while before coming back. Alot of counties are losing players to OZ but we seem to be losing our top talent. Dublin did lose James Madden a few years ago (that was highly spoken of) but he is returning back now to concentrate on gaa.He is just 24 years old. Cillian Burke would be a huge loss for us. Clubs and counties across the country are losing players to Oz.. To Canada.. America.. etc.. and guys transferring away to clubs in Dublin or Cork or wherever... being a rural county on the western seaboard is no help... but certainly and without doubt being a Kerry senior footballer is no longer viewed as the great opportunity it is by the younger generation... the obsession by the young people of Ireland with Australia is headscratching... its not cheap place to live.. you work hard there.. |
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