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Post by royalkerryfan on May 26, 2024 14:49:50 GMT
Donegal are lovely to watch I agree. A True Team playing with confidence as a group. No superstars just everybody giving it 100%. They will give ‘SAM’ a right crack this summer and it will take a huge performance from someone to beat them. On another point from today. It was sad to see Croke Park basically empty for today’s game. I’d hazard a guess no more than 6000 attended. Maybe they dont make their players out to be superstars like Kerry or Dublin.I would say that Oisin Gallen is one of the best forwards im the country and has a way better scoring rate thsn our owm David Clifford.Donegal also have a far better management team imo A few things on this, Kerry and Dublin have done it at the top level and their players are rightly recognised. Oisin is a fine player but he is injury prone and comparing him to Cliford on the basis of an Ulster Championship is off the mark. David has done it consistently since he was a young lad. I'd be inclined to reserve judgement until Donegal play Dublin or Kerry or Galway/Mayo. Tyrone I thought would have a kick in them last night but they were very disappointing. |
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Post by oldschool on May 26, 2024 14:56:15 GMT
kick outs really did not help Roscommmons cause against Dublin yesterday evening in Croker
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Post by legendz on May 26, 2024 17:57:29 GMT
Running scared my ar*e - all it says is we are sick and tired of handing Dublin an advantage year after year and we want to play them on a level playing field. Only self entitled schmucks would interpret it otherwise. Meath were criticised for opting to play Dublin in Croke Park. Now Mayo are criticised for requesting a proper neutral venue! Only 10,000 in Croke Park for the Roscommon game. Dublin's league games have had poor attendances also. Nearly time for them to return to playing in Parnell Park on a more regular basis. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 26, 2024 18:30:43 GMT
Kerry have yerra's in the media. So do Dublin:
Yappy, entitled, really ridiculous arseholes.
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 26, 2024 19:44:13 GMT
Kerry have yerra's in the media. So do Dublin: Yappy, entitled, really ridiculous arseholes. 🤣🤣🤣 Anyone in particular 😅😅 |
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 26, 2024 19:54:15 GMT
A few things on this, Kerry and Dublin have done it at the top level and their players are rightly recognised. Oisin is a fine player but he is injury prone and comparing him to Cliford on the basis of an Ulster Championship is off the mark. David has done it consistently since he was a young lad. I'd be inclined to reserve judgement until Donegal play Dublin or Kerry or Galway/Mayo. Tyrone I thought would have a kick in them last night but they were very disappointing. Oh indeed Oisin Gallen is a long way off David yet.Davifhas been there and done that but this year Gallen has a far better scoring record than David and has been one of the main reasons for Donegals success.I too thought Tyrone might beat Donegal but cest la vie.Both will probably qualify anyway. At the start of the year I wondered (foolishly) was DC playing below form. But as the year has gone on I wonder is it more a case of trying to address what went wrong in last years final that being a completely over reliance on DC to get our scores. 24 points against Monaghan and DC kicked 5. Similar against Clare and Cork. Although I'd love to see him shooting the lights out I'm glad we have others all contributing now. I think he will have a field day against Meath. |
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Post by dc84 on May 27, 2024 6:28:42 GMT
Donegal are a fine team brimming with self belief now but I will hold judgement until as someone else mentioned they play mayo galway kerry or dublin.
Ulster while fairly competitive is not the championship it was there are a lot of teams around the clare cork level or lower, antrim ,fermanagh,down cavan ,monaghan then you have tyrone who in a few years might step up to previous levels and the three at the minute who look competitive in varying degrees derry armagh and donegal there isn't a huge difference between the standard in connacht and ulster imo just the hype and style of play lends itself to closer games.
The reality is there are probably 2 contenders for the big one in ulster dame in connacht and Dublin and kerry.
It looks like the 4 provincial winners will win groups and for me are most likely the four semi finalists aswell.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 27, 2024 8:20:39 GMT
If Kerry can get to the mental pitch of 2022 my fears dissolve.
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Post by cliffy on May 27, 2024 18:43:32 GMT
Anyone got DaraO Ses article in Irish Times last Wednesday on Kerry v Monaghan? Cheers 👍
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Post by Hicser on May 30, 2024 23:40:22 GMT
Nothing new on this thread in 3 days, 😞
I think the Cork v Donegal game could be good.
I have a sneaky suspicion Cork could spring a surprise.
Derry v Armagh the other standout, I fancy Armagh in this one.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 31, 2024 3:10:18 GMT
Derry were in many people's top three and now they are nowhere.
Initially I thought Mickey Harte would sink Derry and then the evidence changed my mind.
Will the real Derry please stand up?
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Post by thehermit on May 31, 2024 8:55:07 GMT
All-Ireland SFC round 2
Cavan v Dublin, Kingspan Breffni, 7pm - GAAGO
Roscommon v Mayo, Dr Hyde Park, 5pm - GAAGO
Cork v Donegal, Pairc Ui Rinn, 2.30pm
Sunday 2 June
All-Ireland SFC round 2
Derry v Armagh, Celtic Park, 4pm - RTE
Monaghan v Louth, Clones, 3.30pm
Westmeath v Galway, TEG Cusack Park, 3pm
Meath v Kerry, Pairc Tailteann, 2pm - RTE
Tyrone v Clare, Healy Park, 1.30pm
The above is just an FYI for people, I doubt I'm the only one that struggles to keep up with all the games, results and permutations flying about in both the football and hurling due to the new format. As a quick aside it really is bonkers, so much on in so little time, no space for proper build ups or storylines to develop and then, in a flash, it will all be over by end of July and back again to other sports to dominate the media headlines!
Anyway I can see a lot of criticism again towards RTE this weekend is the Kerry game goes anyway near to plan. I'm obviously happy to see Kerry on tv as much as possible but considering some of the games (esp in Munster hurling) that weren't televised its a bit ridiculous our trip to Navan is going to be broadcast live.
Can't see Cavan doing much against Dublin. Likewise doubt the Rossie's can overturn last month's result against Mayo but you never know. They played well last week and Mayo might be complacent - it must be very tough having to tune in to go at the same opponents again so soon.
Unlike Hiscer I can't see Donegal not getting a result in Cork. Now I'll share others opinions about who have Donegal really beaten yet? And are they as good as some are making out, but think we'll have to wait to the Q-finals to see them properly tested.
Derry v Armagh defo the game of the weekend. So hard to call, will Sunday prove Mickey's Derry have most definitely flattered to deceive and can Armagh reignite their season?
Would have to fancy Louth in Clones going on form lines.
Finally, can't see anything but Kerry, Galway and Tyrone victories in other matches.
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Post by legendz on May 31, 2024 16:32:03 GMT
Kerry have the ideal schedule since the Munster semi-final, a game every two weeks. Winning the group will maintain that schedule. Ideally championship would be football one weekend and hurling the other. With club players wanting to go on holidays in early August, there should be some middle ground moving All-Ireland finals to the end of August. The clubs can run from September to February. Allianz leagues then starting at the beginning of March.
On the games this weekend, Mayo have a potential banana skin. Derry v Armagh is the standout battle, though Derry can lose still qualify!
Cork v Donegal should go the way of Donegal. Poor Clare are in danger of being knocked out after Round 2 for the second year running. All other 15 counties are mathematically safe until Round 3 at least.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jun 1, 2024 15:19:49 GMT
I was ridicules by Donegal people during the week for suggesting that Donegal hadn't been fully tested yet this year, but I see now Cork bate them Cork 3-09 Donegal 0-16.
I don't think that was unexpected. Most of the Ulster teams play a similar style of football and Jim McGuinness knows exactly what to expect from each team. Cork ran at them, Mayo style, like they did with Kerry, and just like Kerry Donegal struggled with their very direct football. While Ulster teams are very defensive, let's call a spade a spade, and very good at that, Cork's philosophy seems to be that attack is the best defence.
Donegal will still qualify, as will Cork, so it doesn't change much, but it does show that the likes of Mayo, Galway, Cork and perhaps Clare, are still very much in the race alongside Kerry, Donegal, Dublin, Armagh, Cavan, Derry and Tyrone.
Tyrone in my opinion have been very inconsistent, as have Cavan and Armagh. Armagh are probably the best team in Ulster after Donegal, but I still think they are not at the level of Dublin, and perhaps I can add Galway to that if they manage to get their players fit and ready to go. Donegal have improved massively, but like Derry I am not sure how long they can keep the momentum going. They have been going full out since the start of the league in January and like Derry I think they will eventually run out of steam.
Where are Kerry in all this?
I think we have the squad to win the All Ireland, but we don't seem to have the chemistry yet.
The Dublin players all know exactly what to do and at all times they know exactly what the players around them are doing. They can pass the ball without thinking. We are getting there slowly, and Geaney and Brosnan are clearly getting used to playing with Paudie, Seanie and David.
Last year we should have won and didn't. Are we a better team this year? So far I don't think so.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 1, 2024 15:47:00 GMT
Personally I'm delighted for Cork.
Delighted for Munster football.
Is Ulster as good as they are made out to be.
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Post by veteran on Jun 1, 2024 16:23:05 GMT
Personally I'm delighted for Cork. Delighted for Munster football. Is Ulster as good as they are made out to be. I second that. |
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Post by thehermit on Jun 1, 2024 16:30:35 GMT
Nothing new on this thread in 3 days, 😞 I think the Cork v Donegal game could be good. I have a sneaky suspicion Cork could spring a surprise. Derry v Armagh the other standout, I fancy Armagh in this one. The man knows his stuff 👍 |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 1, 2024 16:33:42 GMT
Great day for Munstet football.
Waterford
Tipperary
Cork.
Great day.
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Post by veteran on Jun 1, 2024 16:40:12 GMT
Great day for Munstet football. Waterford Tipperary Cork. Great day. You are forgetting Limerick! |
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Post by thehermit on Jun 1, 2024 17:00:11 GMT
It does just go to show something I'm blue in the face of arguing with people outside Munster. Competitively Munster football is superior to Leinster and has been for a long long time. People look at Kerry's record and think Munster is a dead zone like the Eastern Province. Typical not giving us credit for what we do. Lazy "it's a hurling province only crap".
What Leinster county outside Dublin would get near the Ulster champions? If Clare over the last ten years were in Leinster they'd practically be in every provincial final if they were on the non Dublin side of the draw. It's been a decennium horriblus for Cork in football but they'd have given Dublin more of game every year then any of the capitals neighbours.
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Post by thehermit on Jun 1, 2024 17:01:59 GMT
It does just go to show something I'm blue in the face of arguing with people outside Munster. Competitively Munster football is superior to Leinster and has been for a long long time. People look at Kerry's record and think Munster is a dead zone like the Eastern Province. Typical not giving us credit for what we do. Lazy "it's a hurling province only crap". What Leinster county outside Dublin would get near the Ulster champions? If Clare over the last ten years were in Leinster they'd practically be in every provincial final if they were on the non Dublin side of the draw. It's been a decennium horriblus for Cork in football but they'd have given Dublin more of game every year then any of the capitals neighbours. I might be exaggerating slightly but you get the drift ... |
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Post by thehermit on Jun 1, 2024 17:03:32 GMT
I was ridicules by Donegal people during the week for suggesting that Donegal hadn't been fully tested yet this year, but I see now Cork bate them Cork 3-09 Donegal 0-16. I don't think that was unexpected. Most of the Ulster teams play a similar style of football and Jim McGuinness knows exactly what to expect from each team. Cork ran at them, Mayo style, like they did with Kerry, and just like Kerry Donegal struggled with their very direct football. While Ulster teams are very defensive, let's call a spade a spade, and very good at that, Cork's philosophy seems to be that attack is the best defence. Donegal will still qualify, as will Cork, so it doesn't change much, but it does show that the likes of Mayo, Galway, Cork and perhaps Clare, are still very much in the race alongside Kerry, Donegal, Dublin, Armagh, Cavan, Derry and Tyrone. Tyrone in my opinion have been very inconsistent, as have Cavan and Armagh. Armagh are probably the best team in Ulster after Donegal, but I still think they are not at the level of Dublin, and perhaps I can add Galway to that if they manage to get their players fit and ready to go. Donegal have improved massively, but like Derry I am not sure how long they can keep the momentum going. They have been going full out since the start of the league in January and like Derry I think they will eventually run out of steam. Where are Kerry in all this? I think we have the squad to win the All Ireland, but we don't seem to have the chemistry yet. The Dublin players all know exactly what to do and at all times they know exactly what the players around them are doing. They can pass the ball without thinking. We are getting there slowly, and Geaney and Brosnan are clearly getting used to playing with Paudie, Seanie and David. Last year we should have won and didn't. Are we a better team this year? So far I don't think so. But remember Cork now have a great chance to top the group, which means Donegal into a preliminary Q-final and then a Q-final the very next week. Big disadvantage in that if going by what we saw last year |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 1, 2024 17:24:53 GMT
Great day for Munstet football. Waterford Tipperary Cork. Great day. You are forgetting Limerick! My god I hadn't heard that result! |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 1, 2024 17:26:51 GMT
Clare need not fear flaky Tyrone.
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Post by Hicser on Jun 1, 2024 19:30:06 GMT
Nothing new on this thread in 3 days, 😞 I think the Cork v Donegal game could be good. I have a sneaky suspicion Cork could spring a surprise. Derry v Armagh the other standout, I fancy Armagh in this one. The man knows his stuff 👍 🤣, I also have a sneaky suspicion Kerry will win the All Ireland 🤣 |
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Post by powerhurl on Jun 1, 2024 21:26:50 GMT
Dubs batter Cavan and look ominous . There strength is goal scoring at key times
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jun 1, 2024 21:45:16 GMT
So today’s games were all on GAAGO as RTE don’t want to show too many hurling and football games, but the Saturday game has to be delayed as well to a later time because they are showing a soccer game with not a single Irish player in sight?
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Post by hurlingman on Jun 2, 2024 8:07:04 GMT
So today’s games were all on GAAGO as RTE don’t want to show too many hurling and football games, but the Saturday game has to be delayed as well to a later time because they are showing a soccer game with not a single Irish player in sight? To be fair it's one of the biggest games in club soccer. Would have been a waste of time trying to put something else on at that time. |
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Post by hurlingman on Jun 2, 2024 8:08:37 GMT
To date this year must be one of the worst in terms of attendances at games. Under 10k again at Dublin v Cavan I seen. Not sure about the other games.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jun 2, 2024 8:13:39 GMT
So today’s games were all on GAAGO as RTE don’t want to show too many hurling and football games, but the Saturday game has to be delayed as well to a later time because they are showing a soccer game with not a single Irish player in sight? To be fair it's one of the biggest games in club soccer. Would have been a waste of time trying to put something else on at that time. If it was a big game they could have watch led it on sky couldn’t they? Why are they wasting money on showing something that is already broadcasted and hasn’t any Irish involvement at all? Probably paid millions for it and then not showing us Irish games played by Irish teams |
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