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Post by The16thMan on Mar 18, 2024 18:20:46 GMT
Final round of the league is upon us. It'll be interesting to see if Jack will want to make a push on the small chance we have of making a league final or will Jack use this last round to give fellas game time now that we are officially safe from relegation
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Mar 18, 2024 19:47:03 GMT
With no realistic chance of getting to a league final, this should be a chance to ring the changes and have a look at putting our plan B defensive shape in place. It will be very difficult to replace Jason Foley, a blue chip player. Wishing him a speedy and full recovery. I saw on Twitter earlier today where Heneghan, the Roscommon goal scorer, stamped on Jason’s ankle after scoring. I’m nearly sure that was the ankle he injured? A cowardly act indeed.
Galway have lots to play for and need at least a draw. I can’t see Dublin easing off against Tyrone. They have zero opposition in Leinster and a good hop off a full strength Derry team will help their preparation far more than any team they play in Leinster.
Galway have been missing a number of players through injury, however, some of their younger players have had great exposure to top level football. If and when they have their full compliment they will be a match for most teams. It will be later in the week before we know what kind of team we field. However, it’s not really Jack’s style to make wholesale changes. Galway will surely bring as strong a team as possible and endeavour to secure division one football for next year.
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Mar 18, 2024 19:49:31 GMT
Any word on Briain Ó Beaglaoich?
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Mar 18, 2024 19:54:09 GMT
A lot of Galway’s top players are injured, no point going at them with a full team and beating them easy in the last league game with nothing on the line. I’d take out some of our main players for a few who need game time and try and let some of the lads who need to step up a bit more try and beat them.
1. Shane Murphy 2. Dylan Casey 3. Tadhg Morley 4. Paul Murphy 5. Sean O’Brien 6. Mike Breen 7. Gavin White 8. Joe O’Connor 9. Barry Dan O’Sullivan 10. Adrian Spillane 11. Sean O’Shea 12. Stephen O’Brien 13. Killian Spillane 14. Paul Geaney 15. Dara Moynihan
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Post by homerj on Mar 18, 2024 20:25:21 GMT
we have 0 intention of being in league final so will be a very changed and experimental line up. that said, we have so many injuries that we dont have room for a complete rejig of the line up.
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 18, 2024 21:10:40 GMT
This game will be of similar consequence as last years pedestrian paced encounter in Salthill, where both teams could have played in their sandals.
This will allow us play more of the fringe lads, however, it is the competitive game that allows us test run a full back and/center back.
I would go along the following lines, I hope O'Beagleoich and Breen are fit... If Breen is fit he goes to Six for me, with Graham going to seven, if not try Graham at 6.
Coffey, Casey, Tadgh, O'Beagleoich, O'Brien, Breen, Graham, Joe and Barry Dan, Spillane, Moymihan, O'Brien, Spillane, Geaney and Brosnan.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 18, 2024 21:53:05 GMT
Only (relegated) Monaghan have conceded more than Kerry in Div 1
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Post by homerj on Mar 18, 2024 21:53:24 GMT
we will need a new full back. wonder will they try Breen there? Stefan?
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 18, 2024 22:36:32 GMT
Jason's injury reminds me of when we lost Gooch in 14.
A huge blow,
Jason was our go to man for the oppositions main man.
We have time now to plan accordingly but I cannot see any other likely option other than to play Tadgh there and find a new CHB.
For me Gavin White would make a good CHB he played well there against Tyrone.
I think he's runs would be very effective from 6.
Graham Sullivan on one wing and Brian OBeaghlaoich on the other.
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Post by mainevalley on Mar 19, 2024 1:51:40 GMT
Breen 6 Morley 3
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 19, 2024 9:43:01 GMT
The Galway page advertises that the game is live on TG4...... being a relative dead rubber, I'm surprised.
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Post by The16thMan on Mar 19, 2024 11:11:42 GMT
The Galway page advertises that the game is live on TG4...... being a relative dead rubber, I'm surprised. I wouldn't say it's a dead rubber. Galway have an outside chance of being relegated and Kerry and outside chance of making a league final.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Mar 19, 2024 11:20:05 GMT
If as seems to be the case that Foley is out for a while I don’t see any sense in moving Morley to plug the gap. Mainly for 2 reasons. Tadgh wasn’t exactly a resounding success when playing there previously and more importantly I believe it makes no sense in disrupting 2 lines of our defence to fill a single position. Morley has been the lynchpin of our defence in the sweeper / 6 position since Jacks’ third coming so I would leave him there.
The full back role isn’t as specialist as it once was and I think is more easily filled from within the ranks than trying to bed in a new sweeper.
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 19, 2024 11:40:20 GMT
The Galway page advertises that the game is live on TG4...... being a relative dead rubber, I'm surprised. I wouldn't say it's a dead rubber. Galway have an outside chance of being relegated and Kerry and outside chance of making a league final. ah ya, I see your point, but going on last years fixture, and the history of Tyrone and Dublin, I would have thought the red hand and Dubs clash would be the most attractive.
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Post by kerryexile on Mar 19, 2024 11:50:13 GMT
I agree Attacking Wing Back. We need to develop the middle 8 as a unit. Resting Diarmuid in order to give Joe and Barry Dan game time, the best middle 8 we have (mainly for Kick-out purposes) is Sean O'Brien, Tadhg, Gavin, Joe, Barry Dam, Adrian Paudie, Cillian. I hope he goes with that if Cillian is fit. Mike Breen will probably be a direct replacement for Jason.
There is too much negativity about Jason. While it looked a nasty injury he is very likely to be back for the championship. If his season was over there would be an announcement by now.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 19, 2024 12:41:18 GMT
I agree Attacking Wing Back. We need to develop the middle 8 as a unit. Resting Diarmuid in order to give Joe and Barry Dan game time, the best middle 8 we have (mainly for Kick-out purposes) is Sean O'Brien, Tadhg, Gavin, Joe, Barry Dam, Adrian Paudie, Cillian. I hope he goes with that if Cillian is fit. Mike Breen will probably be a direct replacement for Jason. There is too much negativity about Jason. While it looked a nasty injury he is very likely to be back for the championship. If his season was over there would be an announcement by now. I doubt Jason has even been scanned yet. Given the swelling that's probably there it could be today/tomorrow before that happens.
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Post by thehermit on Mar 19, 2024 14:28:52 GMT
The Galway page advertises that the game is live on TG4...... being a relative dead rubber, I'm surprised. We shoudn't be complaining, I think this means every single Kerry game was available either live or delayed or via youtube by RTE/TG4 happy days. Dublin regularly get all their games televised why shouldn't a county like Kerry? Also bare in mind TG4 are Galway based so they have to show their own as much as they can!
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 19, 2024 14:57:43 GMT
nobody is complaining.
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Post by seaniebo on Mar 19, 2024 19:53:44 GMT
If as seems to be the case that Foley is out for a while I don’t see any sense in moving Morley to plug the gap. Mainly for 2 reasons. Tadgh wasn’t exactly a resounding success when playing there previously and more importantly I believe it makes no sense in disrupting 2 lines of our defence to fill a single position. Morley has been the lynchpin of our defence in the sweeper / 6 position since Jacks’ third coming so I would leave him there. The full back role isn’t as specialist as it once was and I think is more easily filled from within the ranks than trying to bed in a new sweeper. Who would you punt for to fill the spot AWB?
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 19, 2024 21:04:45 GMT
If as seems to be the case that Foley is out for a while I don’t see any sense in moving Morley to plug the gap. Mainly for 2 reasons. Tadgh wasn’t exactly a resounding success when playing there previously and more importantly I believe it makes no sense in disrupting 2 lines of our defence to fill a single position. Morley has been the lynchpin of our defence in the sweeper / 6 position since Jacks’ third coming so I would leave him there. The full back role isn’t as specialist as it once was and I think is more easily filled from within the ranks than trying to bed in a new sweeper. I thought it would be Morely but having read this you're right.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Mar 19, 2024 21:20:36 GMT
Hard to know who to fill it with. A lot depends on the length of time Jason will be sidelined for. I assume we will go on a horses for courses method in the full backline. Depending on the injury situation else where I presume it will be Dylan Casey in the role.
But if all injuries bar Jason are cleared up the beginning of the championship I could see Jack playing Graeme O'Sullivan there with Paul Murphy and Tom in the corners. With BOB and White flanking Morley at 6. Or if Jack doesn't want Murphy in the full backline come championship I think BOB would move back and Breen or O'Brien coming onto the wing.
Graeme is a great player going forward but, is also a fantastic defender I think. If we are looking to plug the Jason foley sized hole with the least disruption it will be Dylan Casey even though I don't think Jack and co are not fully convinced at the moment.
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Post by Aodhan on Mar 19, 2024 23:02:26 GMT
Hard to know who to fill it with. A lot depends on the length of time Jason will be sidelined for. I assume we will go on a horses for courses method in the full backline. Depending on the injury situation else where I presume it will be Dylan Casey in the role. But if all injuries bar Jason are cleared up the beginning of the championship I could see Jack playing Graeme O'Sullivan there with Paul Murphy and Tom in the corners. With BOB and White flanking Morley at 6. Or if Jack doesn't want Murphy in the full backline come championship I think BOB would move back and Breen or O'Brien coming onto the wing. Graeme is a great player going forward but, is also a fantastic defender I think. If we are looking to plug the Jason foley sized hole with the least disruption it will be Dylan Casey even though I don't think Jack and co are not fully convinced at the moment. If that came to pass it surely would be the smallest fullback line in the history of not only Kerry football but throughout all counties. None seem to be anywhere near 5'10'', 5'9'' would even be a push. It would be interesting to see that line up against Seanie, DC and Paul Geaney in training. Wishful thinking with regards opening those gates though.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Mar 19, 2024 23:19:14 GMT
Tom and Paul are 5'10 with Graeme being 5'11 according to the player profiles in last years Irish times for the all ireland final. Could always play BOB in the corner.
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Post by Aodhan on Mar 19, 2024 23:26:48 GMT
Tom and Paul are 5'10 with Graeme being 5'11 according to the player profiles in last years Irish times for the all ireland final. Could always play BOB in the corner. Those measurements have me surprised.
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Mar 19, 2024 23:52:36 GMT
If as seems to be the case that Foley is out for a while I don’t see any sense in moving Morley to plug the gap. Mainly for 2 reasons. Tadgh wasn’t exactly a resounding success when playing there previously and more importantly I believe it makes no sense in disrupting 2 lines of our defence to fill a single position. Morley has been the lynchpin of our defence in the sweeper / 6 position since Jacks’ third coming so I would leave him there. The full back role isn’t as specialist as it once was and I think is more easily filled from within the ranks than trying to bed in a new sweeper. Counter argument is that Breen is a better replacement 6 than anything we have at 3. Casey isn’t up to the level and Graham is so effective in his current role. When Morley was at full back for a few years I thought he did a good job.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Mar 20, 2024 2:26:37 GMT
Based on what I’ve seen to date Casey not being put in at 3 Too much of a rookie for such a role It’s all about match ups now anyhow For example if We meet Con O Callaghan at 14 Paul Murphy might be wearing 4 on his back But he’ll most likely take Con and Morley will take a better match up if there’s to be a plus one free defender I’d arrange it so that Graham is the free defender Because I don’t rate him as a top man marker and he s very good going forward
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Post by mike70 on Mar 20, 2024 6:10:47 GMT
Not sure how long Jason will be out, but we definitely need a seasoned campaigner on the edge of the square, looking around, I am going with Morley , has had challenges, but I don’t see anyone else suitable, we have a Munster semi final 20th April, I be trying out our alternative this weekend.
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Post by anriochtabu23 on Mar 20, 2024 9:20:36 GMT
It really is bad timing for Jason as I think we'll have just the Galway game until championship. The obvious change is Dylan Casey in a like for like change but he is untested.
Id be worried about all our injuries, in particular the players who seem to be constantly on the mend - Okunbar, O'Beaglaoigh, Breen.
We need those lads to be available. It reminds me a bit like James O'D in his latter years, he just never could get right and was constantly breaking down on return from injury.
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Post by seaniebo on Mar 20, 2024 10:56:42 GMT
I take your point AWB re disrupting 2 lines due to one man. Unfortunately we're not too heavy with lads putting up their hands to take on this role. I shudder at the thought of Dylan Casey at full back. To be honest from what I've seen he doesn't have the quality. He completely goes into his shell if he makes a mistake. Easily rattled in layman's terms.
Therefore I thoroughly believe that Morley will be drafted back into full back. I suspect Jack O Connor wouldn't risk anything else only a solid No.3. Graham O Sullivan is probably the most likely candidate then to take up Morley's spot. However I'd be slow to move O Sullivan from his current berth.
I wonder would the likes of Adrian Spillane have the nuances to play the Morley role. He has so much to offer does Spillane. Brilliant in the tackle,strong as an ox, fast and has that bit of bite. His attributes are more akin to that of a defender than of an inter county standard forward.
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Post by kot on Mar 20, 2024 11:49:50 GMT
Looks like Jason is out for Munster Championship, not ideal as he will be rusty for All-Ireland series but worst than first feared.
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