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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 17, 2024 22:19:52 GMT
I think you are correct Taggart
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Post by john4 on Mar 17, 2024 22:31:45 GMT
Could be wrong here but immediately after the goal, the prone Foley I think, waa momentarily writhing in pain holding his leg but got up and played on. Now, I was watching on TV so maybe it was not Jason but if so, perhaps he did damage/weakened it there and then, only to find it giving way some minutes later..... His right ankle was stood on, albeit accidentally, by the goalscorer on his way out. I was surprised that he played on because his reaction indicated that he was in real pain. Just then noticed that Dylan Casey was coming on only, assuming this was for the injured Foley only to see Sean O'Brien coming off. Literally seconds later Jason was in big trouble. Why wasn't he taken off after the first knock?
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Post by taggert on Mar 17, 2024 23:47:06 GMT
Could be wrong here but immediately after the goal, the prone Foley I think, waa momentarily writhing in pain holding his leg but got up and played on. Now, I was watching on TV so maybe it was not Jason but if so, perhaps he did damage/weakened it there and then, only to find it giving way some minutes later..... His right ankle was stood on, albeit accidentally, by the goalscorer on his way out. I was surprised that he played on because his reaction indicated that he was in real pain. Just then noticed that Dylan Casey was coming on only, assuming this was for the injured Foley only to see Sean O'Brien coming off. Literally seconds later Jason was in big trouble. Why wasn't he taken off after the first knock? Yes, the way he reacted after the first incident - and both were accidental - had me surprised he wasnt taken off, even for precuationary measures. Of course hindsight is wonderful..... Anyway, speedy recovery Jason. I see his recent nemesis, Con, was back to his old tricks against Galway, taking 8 or 9 steps for one of his points....
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Post by kerryexile5 on Mar 18, 2024 0:37:36 GMT
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If its ligaments he will be gone for around 6 weeks I would presume. Let's hope it looked and sounded worse than what it is.[/quote]
Recovery time minimum 6 weeks to fully heal, but you wouldn’t be back playing properly until 10 weeks.
He is looking at June.
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 18, 2024 0:48:09 GMT
We have been relatively lucky with injuries to key corner stone players over the last few years- it was going to bite back at some stage.
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Post by oldschool on Mar 18, 2024 10:11:48 GMT
Any thoughts on the disallowed goal and awarding of penalty. Didn’t seem to be right decision. What sort of effort was that from David Clifford at taking penalty.?
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 18, 2024 10:44:07 GMT
Just watched the game back,
Felt like a challenge match little or no intensity.
All is not well in Roscommon because they were very poor.
Seanie OSheas goal should of stood but David Clifford needs to take those penalties a little more seriously.
Jason foleys injury was as bas as described. It sounded awful and you hate seeing anything like that on a pitch.
Hopefully it's not as serious as it looked and he's back for the serious stuff in June.
Kerry have time now though to start planning without him.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 18, 2024 12:11:10 GMT
Just saw a clip of Jason Foleys ankle being stamped on.
Really disgusting thing to do.
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Post by kerrysouth on Mar 18, 2024 12:55:04 GMT
The injuries keep mounting for Kerry .Hope I am wrong but looking at Dublin in second gear and cantering to victory sat evening that the rest of the teams are just playing for second and the gap is widening and with their huge squad injuries won’t derail them .Disapointing that Kerry have found no real new cast iron starters and the team for the championship will be same as 22 minus Jack Barry .While Joe O Connor did well against a limited Roscommon team his league performance v Dublin especially in the first 40 mins would suggest he is not at that level yet.
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Post by homerj on Mar 18, 2024 13:00:51 GMT
Just saw a clip of Jason Foleys ankle being stamped on. Really disgusting thing to do. its shocking bad, doesnt look accidental.
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Post by decondd2 on Mar 18, 2024 13:03:00 GMT
Was at the game, but just saw the stamp on Foley after the goal. That wasn't accidental. Rotten deliberate action and I wouldn't be at all surprised if it contributed to his later injury.
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Post by paudief on Mar 18, 2024 13:09:45 GMT
Was at the game, but just saw the stamp on Foley after the goal. That wasn't accidental. Rotten deliberate action and I wouldn't be at all surprised if it contributed to his later injury.
I missed that. Not accidental, you can see him put force into it.
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Post by dano on Mar 18, 2024 14:25:37 GMT
Watched the game again last night. There’s improvement in midfield and for sure goal should have stood. Advantage? Missed that stomp on Jason’s ankle even though I saw the match twice. I Wish him a speedy recovery . Armin did ok when he replaced Jason and should start at FB against Galway. I believe they should try to amass a big score in Killarney next week and aim for a national final. How sweet it would be to win the league now after all the hype about Dublin, Con, Mickey Harte and Joe Brolly’s annoying comments. Dublin have peaked early. Derry are limited , as shown when they rested a few key men in Celtic Park. The Munster campaign will be of no use to Kerry but a league final and, most importantly, a run out in Croke Park for the debutants will be invaluable. I think the league has gone fairly well for Kerry.
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Post by thepope on Mar 18, 2024 14:25:37 GMT
Thought we played really well into the wind in the first half. Our shooting percentage was very high. I thought we used suport-run patterns well when moving the ball. Players were instructing each other as to where they needed to go and players were anticipating the line of attack beforehand as well. Sometimes our attacking play can look a bit thrown together so this was good to see.
O'Brien looks like an addition and training with the squad should bring him on. Think himself and Burke are 2 players we can be hopeful about.
The stamp on Foley possibly contributed to his ankle going a few minutes later. I'd hope the responsible player will get banned, but the disciplinary process in the GAA is so vague you wouldn't even know if someone will look at that again. The stamp was as bad as the time Bastick tried to break a bone in Donaghy's foot when Kieran was waterboy in Croker, very nasty. Don't think Bastick was ever called out on it.
As a good few posters have said, our record on penalties is awful. Presume they work on it but we're very bad at them.
Joe and Barry Dan did well but a heavy winter pitch is a different proposition to a fast Croke Park in the summer.
We have what we have now at this point in the season and we're going to have to make it work. Foley could be a massive loss and only time will tell if concerns regarding midfield, wing forward and a spread of scores throughout the team will be remedied as we move to championship.
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Post by veteran on Mar 18, 2024 15:01:30 GMT
Sweet Lord that was a horrific stamp on Jason’s ankle . It is quite obvious from the video that it was deliberate. The umpire was not too far away and surely saw it. That nasty, deliberate act reminded me of Neil McGee’s effort at breaking Alan Fitzgerald’s finger some year’s ago in Austin Stack Park.
While it will not expedite Jason’s recovery , the county board should make a formal complaint . The video evidence is incontrovertible. Why would somebody do that after scoring a goal? The French rugby forwards were notorious for that carry on before the matches were saturated with TV cameras. It is a shame if the culprit escapes punishment.
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Post by onlykerry on Mar 18, 2024 15:24:36 GMT
A dirty stamp by the goal scorer #24 Cathal Heneghan on Foley's right ankle - looks very deliberate and should be highlighted - not sure what review channels exist in the GAA for incidents such as this but would expect it to go unpunished.
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 18, 2024 15:37:19 GMT
Just saw a clip of it on Twitter. A nasty nasty act.
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Post by kerryblueboy on Mar 18, 2024 17:05:55 GMT
Watched the game again last night. There’s improvement in midfield and for sure goal should have stood. Advantage? Missed that stomp on Jason’s ankle even though I saw the match twice. I Wish him a speedy recovery . Armin did ok when he replaced Jason and should start at FB against Galway. I believe they should try to amass a big score in Killarney next week and aim for a national final. How sweet it would be to win the league now after all the hype about Dublin, Con, Mickey Harte and Joe Brolly’s annoying comments. Dublin have peaked early. Derry are limited , as shown when they rested a few key men in Celtic Park. The Munster campaign will be of no use to Kerry but a league final and, most importantly, a run out in Croke Park for the debutants will be invaluable. I think the league has gone fairly well for Kerry. dont know what you have been watching but both Derry and Dublin have looked streets ahead of us so far add in all our injuries and we have massive ground to make up which we can if we get players back and try and speed up our play but right now we are firmly in third in the all Ireland race
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 18, 2024 20:59:27 GMT
Just saw a clip of it on Twitter. A nasty nasty act. Considering Paul Galvin got six months for slapping a notebook out of the referees hand, one would envisage that such a stamp would incur a more significant sanction.
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Post by seaniebo on Mar 18, 2024 21:25:11 GMT
I thought Roscommon were a bit niggly and over robust at times but that act on Jason is an utter disgrace.
I didn't see the highlights on RTE last night but I assume this piece of thuggery wasn't shown? Clearly Jason's ankle was in bother when he contested for that ball moments after and paid a hefty price. Hopefully it's a matter of weeks that he's out of action and not months!
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 18, 2024 22:41:52 GMT
Haa there been an official statement on the extent of Foleys injury?
I know Jack is quoted as saying 'significant ankle injury'
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Post by rossranger on Mar 19, 2024 0:29:12 GMT
That clip doesn't look good but Cathal Heneghan is not known as a dirty player I don't recall him getting booked too often in matches never mind sent off and he would know better than most about injuries as he's been mainly injury prone for years including just back after a year out with a knee injury. Jason Foley played on after that incident and it was a bad twist to his ankle when landing hopefully it's not a serious injury but didn't look or sounds good with Jack O'Connor comments afterwards.
On the match all too easy for Kerry. Roscommon lacked the intensity for a match like that and why that was the case leaves a big question mark. Was too loose defensively all game, lost count to the amount of scores Kerry got without a glove laid on the shooters, at the other end 13 wides to 4 in favour of Roscommon tells it's own tale and majority of those wides was poor shot selection and decision making.
I'd say do us a favour and pick a strong team v Galway but I don't think it will matter as Derry should win comfortably against Roscommon regardless to what team Mickey Harte chooses to select.
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Post by kerryexile on Mar 19, 2024 0:31:02 GMT
For anyone that has a recording it happened exactly on 53 min and 46 sec.
As a Roscommon footballer he will be able to tell his grandchildren he injured an All Ireland medal winner.
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Post by chicago09 on Mar 19, 2024 1:18:24 GMT
Not making a joke out of the injury but I wonder what kinda shape Tommy Walsh is in right now you know he might do a job there for us after all his father did play there.
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Post by mainevalley on Mar 19, 2024 1:56:46 GMT
No that was an accident lads. And I don't think it affected what happened a few minutes later. However unless it created a weakness there which lead to the ankle instability on landing. I felt his leg got trapped with other player leg on landing the second time.
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Post by rossranger on Mar 19, 2024 2:40:49 GMT
For anyone that has a recording it happened exactly on 53 min and 46 sec. As a Roscommon footballer he will be able to tell his grandchildren he injured an All Ireland medal winner. Has All Ireland medal of his own and produced a man of that match performance in that final against a side that included David Clifford.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 19, 2024 3:41:56 GMT
Accident my eye and not that kind of player my arse.
If it was an accident he would have apologised and if he wasn't that kind of player... well he patently is.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Mar 19, 2024 4:05:28 GMT
That clip doesn't look good but Cathal Heneghan is not known as a dirty player I don't recall him getting booked too often in matches never mind sent off and he would know better than most about injuries as he's been mainly injury prone for years including just back after a year out with a knee injury. Jason Foley played on after that incident and it was a bad twist to his ankle when landing hopefully it's not a serious injury but didn't look or sounds good with Jack O'Connor comments afterwards. On the match all too easy for Kerry. Roscommon lacked the intensity for a match like that and why that was the case leaves a big question mark. Was too loose defensively all game, lost count to the amount of scores Kerry got without a glove laid on the shooters, at the other end 13 wides to 4 in favour of Roscommon tells it's own tale and majority of those wides was poor shot selection and decision making. I'd say do us a favour and pick a strong team v Galway but I don't think it will matter as Derry should win comfortably against Roscommon regardless to what team Mickey Harte chooses to select. [ I honestly did not conclusively see that as a stamp in normal speed video would need to see it in slow motion to be sure Would not like to wrong the lad either we’d need to be sure But definitely the Referees assessor need to review such incidents and definitely take retroactive action if needs be We had several of our best players eye gouged in high profile games in the recent past with little or no consequences for the obvious perpetrators. Time well past for such transgressions to be dealt with before during or after Foul play dangerous play either way Heneghan made a difference Seems like a good player that they found . Rossies shooting pathetic and clearly they have not been working on this. , that’s coaching 101 but only the Dubs work on shooting with plenty time spent on it and in house standards and competitions and it’s so apparent in games Dreadful shooting and shot selection tells me Roscommon are training but not in front of a goals must be an open field Then they have a rockstar like Cregg up front potentially even better than Ben Carroll and they refuse to kick even a 50 / 50 0 ball in to him please sure that makes no sense whatsoever
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 19, 2024 7:31:00 GMT
Not making a joke out of the injury but I wonder what kinda shape Tommy Walsh is in right now you know he might do a job there for us after all his father did play there. Brilliant..
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 19, 2024 8:05:05 GMT
No that was an accident lads. And I don't think it affected what happened a few minutes later. However unless it created a weakness there which lead to the ankle instability on landing. I felt his leg got trapped with other player leg on landing the second time. You've got to be joking. That was a deliberate stamp.
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