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Post by chicago09 on Mar 16, 2024 21:35:53 GMT
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Post by kerryexile on Mar 17, 2024 1:12:27 GMT
Dylan and conor Geaney also missing but still can’t figure why not more new lads starting just don’t get it. Dubs today starting a bunch of new lads and still bring on vasquel mannion and mcCaffrey in the second half to really kill the game. There is no need to start Paul Murphy or even Graham tomorrow let a few young lads get some experience. All I see here is management too scared not having confidence in the whole panel and afraid to loose. Against Dublin Foley and graham got roasted but Casey gets dropped so he’s sitting on the bench since I mean is that giving him any confidence now did the same last year. If he is not good enough fine give another lad a chance. I agree. Anyone involved with Kerry the week before the Dublin game should have been aware of the readiness of the team that was going out on the night. There should not have been any surprises. The result should not have impacted on the new players. I didn't see the game today but as regards Dublin, safe in div 1, playing new lads today, that is the kind of management we dream of. I repeatedly say we have the players. There is a saying in Aussie rules "you must let the dancers dance".
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 17, 2024 6:53:34 GMT
Very little attention for this game. It's all gone very quiet. Monaghan relegated. Dublin more or less in the final with Derry. Kerry more or less safe. So today is not a must win, but would very much like to win. I'd hoped like other to see more young lads coming on. Perhaps with Roscommon needing to win this game it is all about making sure we win first and then bring on others. A win today and the Galway game is unnecessary really. If Roscommon lose today it will probably condemn them to division 2, whereas statistically if they win they can still condemn Kerry to division 2 if we lose today and next week. Likewise if Roscommon win today and we beat Galway next week we can send Galway down. If we lose both games, we go down. So win today and we're safe with a game in hand. Dublin and Derry can do what they want at this stage as they are already safe.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 17, 2024 8:22:13 GMT
Very little attention for this game. It's all gone very quiet. Monaghan relegated. Dublin more or less in the final with Derry. Kerry more or less safe. So today is not a must win, but would very much like to win. I'd hoped like other to see more young lads coming on. Perhaps with Roscommon needing to win this game it is all about making sure we win first and then bring on others. A win today and the Galway game is unnecessary really. If Roscommon lose today it will probably condemn them to division 2, whereas statistically if they win they can still condemn Kerry to division 2 if we lose today and next week. Likewise if Roscommon win today and we beat Galway next week we can send Galway down. If we lose both games, we go down. So win today and we're safe with a game in hand. Dublin and Derry can do what they want at this stage as they are already safe. Things are quiet because like it or not there is a serious hangover after the Dublin game.
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Post by onlykerry on Mar 17, 2024 10:14:11 GMT
Very little attention for this game. It's all gone very quiet. Monaghan relegated. Dublin more or less in the final with Derry. Kerry more or less safe. So today is not a must win, but would very much like to win. I'd hoped like other to see more young lads coming on. Perhaps with Roscommon needing to win this game it is all about making sure we win first and then bring on others. A win today and the Galway game is unnecessary really. If Roscommon lose today it will probably condemn them to division 2, whereas statistically if they win they can still condemn Kerry to division 2 if we lose today and next week. Likewise if Roscommon win today and we beat Galway next week we can send Galway down. If we lose both games, we go down. So win today and we're safe with a game in hand. Dublin and Derry can do what they want at this stage as they are already safe. Even if we lose both of our remaining games we are unlikely to go down - for us to be relegated at this stage would require both Roscommon to beat us and Derry in their final game and Tyrone to beat Dublin in Croke Park in their final game. Those calling for wholesale changes to try out players have a case, but remember to try out players they need to have a decent team around them to see how they fit in - little point playing too many hopefuls in the same game. The injury list is worrying.
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Post by kerryexile on Mar 17, 2024 12:14:35 GMT
That is a valid point about having a decent team around them, but sometimes a player who is borderline for a while needs to be thrown in at the deep end to sink or swim. I hope Diarmuid is not seriously injured but I am glad to see Joe and Barry Dan together at midfield. Hopefully at least one of them will grab the opportunity to show what they can do. Darragh Roche has been borderline for a while too.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 17, 2024 13:20:08 GMT
Jack has said lots of lads are picking up hamstring injuries with the number of games at the minute.
Not great heading to Portugal if lads are carrying knocks.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Mar 17, 2024 14:13:36 GMT
In years to come we will look back on this game as the example of how boring to watch football has become No way your going watch this unless your team is involved A good game for the review committee to analyze
Joe o Connor. Having a breakout game
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Post by southward on Mar 17, 2024 14:34:18 GMT
That penalty decision better not cost us here. Wtf is the referee at? Why would you cancel the goal to give a peno into the wind. Why no advantage? No card either. Disgraceful refereeing.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 17, 2024 15:27:10 GMT
I'm out family duties, Did he walk off ?
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Post by colinsworth1 on Mar 17, 2024 15:32:48 GMT
Assisted off walked yes but looks ominous Hopefully not as bad as it looked
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Post by kerryblueboy on Mar 17, 2024 15:34:05 GMT
Looked like Jason did his ankle ligaments Jesus that was painful to watch we are so slow and pedestrian on the ball only geaney and o Brien brought any kind of life to it Dara Roche miles off this level we won that’s about it injuries are worrying
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Mar 17, 2024 16:01:35 GMT
Thought Joe should have got motm instead of White who was also good but Joe had a great game. Barry Dan was also very good at midfield. Paul Murphy is playing great stuff at the moment at corner back. Paul Geaney was quality when he came on, very influential.
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Mar 17, 2024 16:04:45 GMT
I thought we won as we pleased.
Gavin White is a great weapon to have. He cut the Roscommon defence to ribbons several times throughout the game.
Joe O Connor continues his progress after getting a schooling in Croke Park. A positive sign.
Lovely to see Geaney and Stevo come in and make valuable contributions.
Jason’s injury is a worry but we will just have to wait and see what happens in the coming weeks. Hopefully it isn’t too serious.
A comfortable win on the road, Roscommon were game but just didn’t have the quality to worry us at any stage of the game.
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Post by kerryblueboy on Mar 17, 2024 16:31:31 GMT
Watching Derry dismantling mayo the way they play so direct and with so much pace we need to speed up our game especially the second half today was so slow
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 17, 2024 16:34:57 GMT
I'm out family duties, Did he walk off ? No he was carried and screaming in pain.Also the doctors were on the phone after assesing him so id say calling an ambulance.It does nt look good and if my fears are true Jason will be a huge loss.P.G.Its not serious🙏 Yes it was the swiftness of the whistle and the reaction of the sideline that alarmed me the most, the only positive he wasn't stretchered off and his replacement Heinrich played well when introduced. Is the only solution Tadgh back in there with a reshuffle or Dylan Casey.. we still have Briôn O’Beagleoich, Tom Sull and Mike Breen. I always felt Breen was back up to 6 with Tadgh the auxiliary full back if required
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 17, 2024 16:49:15 GMT
No he was carried and screaming in pain.Also the doctors were on the phone after assesing him so id say calling an ambulance.It does nt look good and if my fears are true Jason will be a huge loss.P.G.Its not serious🙏 Yes it was the swiftness of the whistle and the reaction of the sideline that alarmed me the most, the only positive he wasn't stretchered off and his replacement Heinrich played well when introduced. Is the only solution Tadgh back in there with a reshuffle or Dylan Casey.. we still have Briôn O’Beagleoich, Tom Sull and Mike Breen. I always felt Breen was back up to 6 with Tadgh the auxiliary full back if required Probably premature but for me it's Morley FB and White 6.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Mar 17, 2024 17:06:52 GMT
Thought Joe should have got motm instead of White who was also good but Joe had a great game. Barry Dan was also very good at midfield. Paul Murphy is playing great stuff at the moment at corner back. Paul Geaney was quality when he came on, very influential. Joe had an obvious MOM performance I’m delighted now we have an attacking midfielder a breath of fresh air a player now that other teams will have to factor in And one of the opposition midfielders will finally not have things all their own way as has been out lot for past few years
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 17, 2024 17:21:11 GMT
Yes it was the swiftness of the whistle and the reaction of the sideline that alarmed me the most, the only positive he wasn't stretchered off and his replacement Heinrich played well when introduced. Is the only solution Tadgh back in there with a reshuffle or Dylan Casey.. we still have Briôn O’Beagleoich, Tom Sull and Mike Breen. I always felt Breen was back up to 6 with Tadgh the auxiliary full back if required Probably premature but for me it's Morley FB and White 6. Ah god ya, I'm not writing him off, but even short term vs Galway we need to look at options, looking at weekend results its a Dublin Derry final, we're safe out so can afford to look. For me, Gavin has to stay on the wing to offer us an attacking option on thr break, he can't do that from 6... if Breen is not the option, for me Graham is an option too.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Mar 17, 2024 17:44:06 GMT
Sean O Brien was good but got caught badly for the goal.BarryDan and Joe had fine games midfield.I was talking to a former Kerry player and his viewpoint was our backs are very easy ran through.foul too much and constantly arguing with refs decisions.I had to agree with him. Our backs easily ran through ? Yes I wonder if it’s lack of fitness early days or is it lack of pace compared to the opposition I would be bringing pace and speed into this team at every available position pace and speed or lack of it in enough positions is costing us that why I m not convinced of Sean O Brien or Dylan Casey yet
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Post by kerryexile on Mar 17, 2024 18:06:23 GMT
It must be said that Roscommon were very poor. They are a limited team, didn’t put up any fight and seemed to have accepted their fate so we can’t read too much into the win. Having said that the players could only play what was in front of them.
Gavin was the best player on the pitch. Joe had a very good game but is still not the finished article. The way he is continuously improving suggests when he could become on of the best midfielders in the country. Barry Dan did very well and should be in the squad for the championship as back up for midfield. Sean O’Brien is still learning his trade but looks like a player who will benefit from being “inside” and the intense training in there. He may start games for the benefit of his height for the kickout from both ends.
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 17, 2024 18:14:44 GMT
Jason was in a lot of pain when he landed. It happened right in front of me and I thought he had broken the ankle by his reaction when the physio was manipulating it. He wasn't really able to put the foot on the ground when being carried off. At one point the ref signalled for a stretcher. The medics were doing a lot of strapping when he was on the sideline.
If its ligaments he will be gone for around 6 weeks I would presume. Let's hope it looked and sounded worse than what it is.
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Post by chicago09 on Mar 17, 2024 18:56:43 GMT
My god people we need to be more clinical in front of goal what is the deal trying to bring the ball all the way in we should have at least two or three goals today. Happy enough with the game all we need from this league is at least two new lads from last year and we seems to have joe o Connor and O’Brien hopefully can develope. I like the look of Heinrich big strong looking didn’t think he was that big and Keith Evans too even though he’s small he looks big out there. They all need a run out the next day.
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Post by anriochtabu23 on Mar 17, 2024 19:45:20 GMT
Foley has injured his ankle before so it might be a difficult road back.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 17, 2024 20:24:11 GMT
Jack described it as a significant ankle injury.
Not good.
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 17, 2024 21:18:52 GMT
Anybody else notice that the man singing the National Anthem was making up his own words.
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Post by mainevalley on Mar 17, 2024 21:21:05 GMT
Jack described it as a significant ankle injury. Not good. Wouldn't surprise me if there's a bone broken, one of those awkward landings and off balance twist.
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 17, 2024 21:34:11 GMT
Anybody else notice that the man singing the National Anthem was making up his own words. 😀😀Yes my daughter and I had a giggle at it.He def did nt know all the words but I must say twas my first trip to Roscommon in a few years and Im very impressed with Hyde park.It will be a smashing stadium when fully finished. Pity they couldn't extend the roof out over the new seating. It was a lovely looking pitch from my vantage point and very easy to get in and out of although it wasn't a great crowd there. Thank God that downpour stopped when it did.
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Post by veteran on Mar 17, 2024 21:42:52 GMT
From the couch , it was a reasonable display against a mediocre team. Roscommon are limited. They have some very good individuals from midfield up but overall are only a moderate force. In spite of that they made life uncomfortable for us in the second half when we should have been cantering home. Sean O’Brien naively allowed his man to cut in along the end line and cross the ball which was batted home. While we never looked like losing , after that goal we were under some pressure until Joe O’Connor crashed home from Paul Geaney’s pass.
We were well on top in the first half but our build up was laborious and painful to watch. A recurring theme. Also noteworthy in that half was the reluctance of our players to make themselves available for Shane Ryan”s kicks out. At least that is how it appeared on TV. Another recurring theme.
One of the most pleasing aspects of the game was our spread of scorers. The Clifford boys and Sean O’Shea will always be targeted by the opposition , in those circumstances it is imperative that our more unlikely suspects chip in with scores. That happened today and as a consequence we kept the umpires busy. Long may this continue.
Apart from the the easy passage he gave to the creator of the Roscommon goal, Sean O’Brien seemed to acquit himself well and , as in the Tyrone game, lofted one over with that ciotog of his. Sean is gaining priceless experience and will surely line out the next day against Galway.
Barry Dan stepped up on his most recent games and was an unlikely source of one of those points.
Joe O’Connor continued the aggression and athleticism he displayed against Tyrone. He is one willing, strong boy whose rough edges should be minimized with more experience. Took his goal expertly , albeit from close in. . Commendably , he didn’t look to lay it off.
Adrian Spillane , from my view, did not appear to be involved often enough. I feel he has a lot more to offer but I am not sure how that “ more” can be extracted. Perhaps a more central position. I have previously nominated him for CHB but Jack hasn’t listened . CHF ?
Paul Geaney is very likely to only play a supporting role this year. An important role nevertheless. He still retains those supreme kicking skills. How uplifting it is to see a player take his shot when the chance presents itself. Paul was never a pass the parcel merchant. And of course he laid on the goal for Joe .
I have commented previously on Sean O’Shea’s drop off in accuracy from frees. Missed two today. There was a time when he took most of them off the ground , now he appears to favour the out of hand method. Is he carrying a residual groin injury?
In the heel of the hunt the mission was accomplished but perhaps at an unaffordable price. Jason appeared to sustain a serious ankle injury. His absence would seriously blunt our championship prospects. Speedy return, Jason.
Apart from Jason. we seem to be accumulating a distressing catalogue of injuries. There is only a brief time span for recuperation. Is it the rain sodden grounds that are the at the root of this plague? We need to be playing with a full hand if success is be hours. Anything to be said for reciting a few novenas!
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Post by taggert on Mar 17, 2024 22:05:38 GMT
Could be wrong here but immediately after the goal, the prone Foley I think, waa momentarily writhing in pain holding his leg but got up and played on. Now, I was watching on TV so maybe it was not Jason but if so, perhaps he did damage/weakened it there and then, only to find it giving way some minutes later.....
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