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Post by The16thMan on Feb 25, 2024 11:14:33 GMT
So the less said about our game in Croke Park the better. Kerry will now be under scrutiny and a reaction will be expected on our home patch vs Tyrone. One thing for sure is, if Kerry give Darragh Canavan the same time and space they did to Con, we will not be winning this game.
Kerry need to tighten up in the defence and also get on top around the middle. We need to be retaining 80% minimum of our own kickouts to be competitive and have more success on opposition kickouts. Vs Dublin we had something like a 9% success rate on Dublins kickouts, that won't cut it in any game I'm afraid.
As for team selection, I don't think Jack will make too many changes. I would like to see a 3rd midfielder being played in the half forward line, perhaps instead of Dara Moynihan I would like to see Adrian Spillane (If Fit) being selected as Adrian is a fierce tackler and good under the breaking ball which is what we seriously lacked vs Dublin.
I do expect a reaction from Kerry, whether we get it or not is any mans guess but next Sundays performance will say a lot about this Kerry team and the character they have after such a chastening display against the Dubs.
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Post by horsebox77 on Feb 25, 2024 21:29:48 GMT
I suppose as CiarraiMick alluded to, it’s the lack of consistency that is the worry. Jack isn’t one for wholesale changes, but to be honest, the axe needs to be wielded, if even for short term shock factor or just to set a statement of intent.
A few things are worrying me firstly, teams have figured out by placing a man on Tadgh, or just directly engaging the sweeper it nullifies it. For this reason, I would actually name Tadgh at two and Graham at six, invariably the corner forward roams, leaving Tadgh as the sweeper and allowing Graham close the middle, I think it is in matches like yesterday that Jack Barry’s role and positioning is greatly missed. Dylan too was cruelly exposed and I don’t know what alternative we have until Brión return from injury, I think Dylan is better attacking so actually maybe a swop with Tom may be more appropriate,
For this reason and counteract our defensive frailties, we need to alter our midfield paring. We have tried Joe and Sean O’Brien, then Joe and Diarmuid, this has not improved matters, I feel Joe and Diarmuid are similar, for this reason, it is not working for us, before you had Jack and Diarmuid, one naturally holding back and other the offensive. We’ haven’t tried Diarmuid and Sean O’Brien, I know Joe scored 1-01 Saturday, but apart from that, he was inconspicuous, I don’t recall hearing his name in the first 35 minutes. Sean is naturally defensive minded, maybe trying Sean and Diarmuid might tick more boxes than it doesn’t, at the very least it's worth a shot.
Similarly, I thought we were well bullied for breaking ball and winning primary possession on Saturday in our forward unit, I don’t think Paudie on the wing is effective, seeing as I’m placing Sean defensively, the option of Adrain and Kilian as our wing men may be more prudent, restoring Paudie to the forty and Seanie inside with David would still allow one pick a roamer at 15, be it Dara, Colm or Conor Geaney, to leave space and allow direct or diagonal ball.
Don’t know or haven’t heard the status of Tom Sull, going on his availability my starting XV would be:
Shane Ryan, Tadgh Morley, Jason Foley, Tom Sullivan, Dylan Casey (last chance), Graham Sulivan, Gavin White, Diarmuid O’Connor, Sean O’Brien, Adrain Spillane, Paudie Clifford, Killian Bourke, David Clifford, Seanie O’Shea and Dara Moynihan..
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Post by horsebox77 on Feb 25, 2024 21:52:07 GMT
I know it's a home game, but for those outside the Kingdom, the Tyrone game is live on TG4...
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Post by kerrylad38 on Feb 25, 2024 22:00:57 GMT
I suppose as CiarraiMick alluded to, it’s the lack of consistency that is the worry. Jack isn’t one for wholesale changes, but to be honest, the axe needs to be wielded, if even for short term shock factor or just to set a statement of intent. A few things are worrying me firstly, teams have figured out by placing a man on Tadgh, or just directly engaging the sweeper it nullifies it. For this reason, I would actually name Tadgh at two and Graham at six, invariably the corner forward roams, leaving Tadgh as the sweeper and allowing Graham close the middle, I think it is in matches like yesterday that Jack Barry’s role and positioning is greatly missed. Dylan too was cruelly exposed and I don’t know what alternative we have until Brión return from injury, I think Dylan is better attacking so actually maybe a swop with Tom may be more appropriate, For this reason and counteract our defensive frailties, we need to alter our midfield paring. We have tried Joe and Sean O’Brien, then Joe and Diarmuid, this has not improved matters, I feel Joe and Diarmuid are similar, for this reason, it is not working for us, before you had Jack and Diarmuid, one naturally holding back and other the offensive. We’ haven’t tried Diarmuid and Sean O’Brien, I know Joe scored 1-01 Saturday, but apart from that, he was inconspicuous, I don’t recall hearing his name in the first 35 minutes. Sean is naturally defensive minded, maybe trying Sean and Diarmuid might tick more boxes than it doesn’t, at the very least it's worth a shot. Similarly, I thought we were well bullied for breaking ball and winning primary possession on Saturday in our forward unit, I don’t think Paudie on the wing is effective, seeing as I’m placing Sean defensively, the option of Adrain and Kilian as our wing men may be more prudent, restoring Paudie to the forty and Seanie inside with David would still allow one pick a roamer at 15, be it Dara, Colm or Conor Geaney, to leave space and allow direct or diagonal ball. Don’t know or haven’t heard the status of Tom Sull, going on his availability my starting XV would be: Shane Ryan, Tadgh Morley, Jason Foley, Tom Sullivan, Dylan Casey (last chance), Graham Sulivan, Gavin White, Diarmuid O’Connor, Sean O’Brien, Adrain Spillane, Paudie Clifford, Killian Bourke, David Clifford, Seanie O’Shea and Dara Moynihan.. Dara Moynihan Over Dylan Geaney? Though Geaney Did Well Last Night And Was Winning His Ball On The 40 Very Harsh To Be Taken Off
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Post by horsebox77 on Feb 25, 2024 22:41:02 GMT
I suppose as CiarraiMick alluded to, it’s the lack of consistency that is the worry. Jack isn’t one for wholesale changes, but to be honest, the axe needs to be wielded, if even for short term shock factor or just to set a statement of intent. A few things are worrying me firstly, teams have figured out by placing a man on Tadgh, or just directly engaging the sweeper it nullifies it. For this reason, I would actually name Tadgh at two and Graham at six, invariably the corner forward roams, leaving Tadgh as the sweeper and allowing Graham close the middle, I think it is in matches like yesterday that Jack Barry’s role and positioning is greatly missed. Dylan too was cruelly exposed and I don’t know what alternative we have until Brión return from injury, I think Dylan is better attacking so actually maybe a swop with Tom may be more appropriate, For this reason and counteract our defensive frailties, we need to alter our midfield paring. We have tried Joe and Sean O’Brien, then Joe and Diarmuid, this has not improved matters, I feel Joe and Diarmuid are similar, for this reason, it is not working for us, before you had Jack and Diarmuid, one naturally holding back and other the offensive. We’ haven’t tried Diarmuid and Sean O’Brien, I know Joe scored 1-01 Saturday, but apart from that, he was inconspicuous, I don’t recall hearing his name in the first 35 minutes. Sean is naturally defensive minded, maybe trying Sean and Diarmuid might tick more boxes than it doesn’t, at the very least it's worth a shot. Similarly, I thought we were well bullied for breaking ball and winning primary possession on Saturday in our forward unit, I don’t think Paudie on the wing is effective, seeing as I’m placing Sean defensively, the option of Adrain and Kilian as our wing men may be more prudent, restoring Paudie to the forty and Seanie inside with David would still allow one pick a roamer at 15, be it Dara, Colm or Conor Geaney, to leave space and allow direct or diagonal ball. Don’t know or haven’t heard the status of Tom Sull, going on his availability my starting XV would be: Shane Ryan, Tadgh Morley, Jason Foley, Tom Sullivan, Dylan Casey (last chance), Graham Sulivan, Gavin White, Diarmuid O’Connor, Sean O’Brien, Adrain Spillane, Paudie Clifford, Killian Bourke, David Clifford, Seanie O’Shea and Dara Moynihan.. Dara Moynihan Over Dylan Geaney? Though Geaney Did Well Last Night And Was Winning His Ball On The 40 Very Harsh To Be Taken Off Ah look, splitting hairs really, there isn't much between them, you wouldn't live off the difference.. is it fair to consider Dara Roche surplus to requirements... had a poor McGrath Cup and no league time, that's even before you get Paul, Stephen and the younger Spillane back in..
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Feb 25, 2024 22:41:38 GMT
I think it is in matches like yesterday that Jack Barry’s role and positioning is greatly missed. Dylan too was cruelly exposed and I don’t know what alternative we have until Brión return from injury, I think Dylan is better attacking so actually maybe a swop with Tom may be more appropriate, For this reason and counteract our defensive frailties, we need to alter our midfield paring. We have tried Joe and Sean O’Brien, then Joe and Diarmuid, this has not improved matters, I feel Joe and Diarmuid are similar, for this reason, it is not working for us, before you had Jack and Diarmuid, one naturally holding back and other the offensive. We’ haven’t tried Diarmuid and Sean O’Brien, I know Joe scored 1-01 Saturday, but apart from that, he was inconspicuous, I don’t recall hearing his name in the first 35 minutes. Sean is naturally defensive minded, maybe trying Sean and Diarmuid might tick more boxes than it doesn’t, at the very least it's worth a shot. When Mike Breen returns from injury I feel he is worth a run at midfield next to Diarmuid. Breen dropping to 6 to allow Morley to sweep would be a natural fit. It’s not a perfect solution at midfield but I think it’s worth a look. Joe O’Connor could be an option at wing forward then. Others have mentioned that he isn’t great in the air at all and it’s a big weakness for us because Diarmuid is far from dominant in the air on long kick outs as well. No matter who we put at midfield we aren’t going to be lording it at midfield against Dublin or Derry so our best bet is to try and break 50 50 by breaking it and make up some of the difference with other qualities in our midfielders.
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Post by horsebox77 on Feb 25, 2024 22:45:18 GMT
I think it is in matches like yesterday that Jack Barry’s role and positioning is greatly missed. Dylan too was cruelly exposed and I don’t know what alternative we have until Brión return from injury, I think Dylan is better attacking so actually maybe a swop with Tom may be more appropriate, For this reason and counteract our defensive frailties, we need to alter our midfield paring. We have tried Joe and Sean O’Brien, then Joe and Diarmuid, this has not improved matters, I feel Joe and Diarmuid are similar, for this reason, it is not working for us, before you had Jack and Diarmuid, one naturally holding back and other the offensive. We’ haven’t tried Diarmuid and Sean O’Brien, I know Joe scored 1-01 Saturday, but apart from that, he was inconspicuous, I don’t recall hearing his name in the first 35 minutes. Sean is naturally defensive minded, maybe trying Sean and Diarmuid might tick more boxes than it doesn’t, at the very least it's worth a shot. When Mike Breen returns from injury I feel he is worth a run at midfield next to Diarmuid. Breen dropping to 6 to allow Morley to sweep would be a natural fit. It’s not a perfect solution at midfield but I think it’s worth a look. Joe O’Connor could be an option at wing forward then. Others have mentioned that he isn’t great in the air at all and it’s a big weakness for us because Diarmuid is far from dominant in the air on long kick outs as well. No matter who we put at midfield we aren’t going to be lording it at midfield against Dublin or Derry so our best bet is to try and break 50 50 by breaking it and make up some of the difference with other qualities in our midfielders. I like Mike Breen and although probably a natural centre back, I've often touted him for a midfied role. He and Darmuid could work similar to the Dublin pairing of Whelan and Shane Ryan of early 00's
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Post by onlykerry on Feb 25, 2024 23:05:27 GMT
I think it is in matches like yesterday that Jack Barry’s role and positioning is greatly missed. Dylan too was cruelly exposed and I don’t know what alternative we have until Brión return from injury, I think Dylan is better attacking so actually maybe a swop with Tom may be more appropriate, For this reason and counteract our defensive frailties, we need to alter our midfield paring. We have tried Joe and Sean O’Brien, then Joe and Diarmuid, this has not improved matters, I feel Joe and Diarmuid are similar, for this reason, it is not working for us, before you had Jack and Diarmuid, one naturally holding back and other the offensive. We’ haven’t tried Diarmuid and Sean O’Brien, I know Joe scored 1-01 Saturday, but apart from that, he was inconspicuous, I don’t recall hearing his name in the first 35 minutes. Sean is naturally defensive minded, maybe trying Sean and Diarmuid might tick more boxes than it doesn’t, at the very least it's worth a shot. When Mike Breen returns from injury I feel he is worth a run at midfield next to Diarmuid. Breen dropping to 6 to allow Morley to sweep would be a natural fit. It’s not a perfect solution at midfield but I think it’s worth a look. Joe O’Connor could be an option at wing forward then. Others have mentioned that he isn’t great in the air at all and it’s a big weakness for us because Diarmuid is far from dominant in the air on long kick outs as well. No matter who we put at midfield we aren’t going to be lording it at midfield against Dublin or Derry so our best bet is to try and break 50 50 by breaking it and make up some of the difference with other qualities in our midfielders. Don't understand the thinking behind moving Joe to wing forward - that is a position that demands huge effort and Joe seems to meander about. He is a big unit and should be attacking the ball for us - he reminds me of Mush O Brien a few years ago, drifts in and out but not using his obvious attributes of strength and height enough. Mike Breen, Begley, Tom O Sullivan, Stephen O Brien, Spillanes, Paul Geaney - these lads will all be in contention for championship spots so those saying what lost last Saturday is close to our Championship team are writing off all these lads. For me the primary objective of the league is to unearth some new talent and find out about fringe players to see what we have to work with come the summer and to this end we are motoring well. Any day when DC and SOS are a little off we will struggle, particularly when players and tactics are being trialled. I am reasonably confident we can put out six good attackers and six good defenders - the biggest concern remains who will partner Diarmuid and to be honest we need 3 decent options for the middle to handle injuries and the schedule of summer games. Tyrone offers a chance to give young O Brien another outing with Okunbar needing to be given game time at some point to see what he can offer.
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Post by anriochtabu23 on Feb 25, 2024 23:33:40 GMT
I cannot see Mike Breen prospering at midfield. Tyrone targeted his wing in the 21 semi final when they went long and they did well out of it. I can't remember what Tyrone player was against him. V Fenton, Rogers, Glass etc. He's a wing back or 6.
Okunbar has so little football played that we can't assess him. I do think he could be a man marker but I haven't seen enough if he can actually create.
Dara Moynihan competing V Fenton last night was a depressing sight.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 25, 2024 23:55:13 GMT
What's the number one takeaway after the first 4 games.
We've lost midfield in 3 of them and only won midfield against Monaghan.
That must be Jack's main concern now.
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Post by shannonsider on Feb 26, 2024 1:33:15 GMT
Dara Moynihan Over Dylan Geaney? Though Geaney Did Well Last Night And Was Winning His Ball On The 40 Very Harsh To Be Taken Off Ah look, splitting hairs really, there isn't much between them, you wouldn't live off the difference.. is it fair to consider Dara Roche surplus to requirements... had a poor McGrath Cup and no league time, that's even before you get Paul, Stephen and the younger Spillane back in.. Dylan Geaney is an out and out inside line scorer off both feet and always has been. Dara Moynihan has always been a grafting half forward. There’s a world of difference in all fairness.
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Post by horsebox77 on Feb 26, 2024 8:55:19 GMT
Did Jack clarify Tom's absence?
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Post by senditinhigh on Feb 26, 2024 9:06:31 GMT
On the topic of midfielders I think Gavin Horan had a good county championship with Mid Kerry and also a very strong intermediate with Milltown/ castlemaine and might be worth a look. Midfield is definitely a department we could do with bolstering.
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Post by anriochtabu23 on Feb 26, 2024 9:16:24 GMT
The gap between a good performance im county championship and county team is getting wider. The conditioning required is nearly a 2 year job. Paudie Clifford and other late developers are getting rarer.
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Post by mike70 on Feb 26, 2024 9:47:08 GMT
I am going with the same 15, unless Tom Sullivan and Brian O Beaglaoi are available, after that I don’t see too many changes, maybe introduction of Paul geaney off the bench.
I expect a tough game from Tyrone, looks like they are improving, but nothing like a good test.
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Feb 26, 2024 10:32:47 GMT
Dylan Casey and Dara Moynihan’s performances don’t warrant starts in this game. Who comes in depends on who’s available.
We really need Tom back to mark Canavan and McCurry is back now as well.
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Post by The16thMan on Feb 26, 2024 10:53:08 GMT
Did Jack clarify Tom's absence? Said he got a kick in the calf last Wednesday in training and wasn't risked
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Post by dano on Feb 26, 2024 15:53:36 GMT
Darran McCurry came on as a sub for Tyrone last Saturday and scored from all angles.It was one of those switches that just worked out. They'll have their tails up in Killarney Sunday and will try to exploit the sense of anxiety that must be over the Kerry camp now after Saturday. I hope Jack keeps The 2 Connors at MF as the test with Conn Kilpatrick and Kennedy is just what's needed. our backs just need to tighten up as they did in'22. The 2 Cliffords and Seanie will have a better day and the if the encouraging development of Geaney and C. Burke continues I think They can get the season back on track.
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Post by The16thMan on Feb 26, 2024 18:45:34 GMT
Darran McCurry came on as a sub for Tyrone last Saturday and scored from all angles.It was one of those switches that just worked out. They'll have their tails up in Killarney Sunday and will try to exploit the sense of anxiety that must be over the Kerry camp now after Saturday. I hope Jack keeps The 2 Connors at MF as the test with Conn Kilpatrick and Kennedy is just what's needed. our backs just need to tighten up as they did in'22. The 2 Cliffords and Seanie will have a better day and the if the encouraging development of Geaney and C. Burke continues I think They can get the season back on track. Without doubt Kerry can get back on track. Kerry last week were on a good road with a few things to tidy up on. I think this is where we still are. Like one swallow doesn't make a summer, one defeat doesn't make us a very poor team like some people are suggesting. What this might do is it might force action from management that otherwise might not have happened. No better game than to get us back on the horse than a home game to Tyrone. They've beaten us 3 out of the past 4 times we've played (including the last vist they had to Killarney). It will show more where we are as a team this game as it will show how we respond to such setbacks like we had last Saturday.
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Post by fredrickwood on Feb 26, 2024 22:22:38 GMT
1. Shane Ryan 2. Tom Sullivan 3 Jason Foley 4 Graham O'Sullivan 5 Gavin White 6 Tadgh Morley 7 Brian O Beaglaoich 8 Diarmuid O'Connor 9 Barry Dan O'Sullivan 10 Joe O'Connor 11 Dylan Geaney 12 Cillian Burke 13 Paidi Clifford 14 David Clifford 15 Sean O'Shea
16 Shane Murphy 17 Stephen O'Brien 18 Dara Moynihan 19 Daithi Casey 20 Sean O'Brien 21 Tony Brosnan 22 Stephen O'Brien 23 Stefan Okumbar 24 Conor Geaney 25 Paul Murphy 26 Damien Bourke
The reality is no one can stop David Clifford only himself, he could have had 3 something the last night. Same in the all Ireland final 8 wides, Fitsimons did not beat him that day.
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Post by mainevalley on Feb 26, 2024 22:51:51 GMT
Last year and this year nearly every poster has agreed that a new midfielder and half foward is imperative.Cillian Burke is a big bonus to the half forward line but midfield still a huge problem.Having said that Fenton is top clasd and Derry have the best mf pairing in the country imo.For those reasons Im not writing off our midfield totally but I still think we should try something new.Give Okunbar a chance or two and give Sean O Brien another few chances.I like Horsebox idea of Morley at 2 also.I d love to try Adrian Spillane centre back.I would nt give up on Dara Roche yet either but id try him at ff and have David and Seanie in the corners with Seanie the licence to roam.Id love something like this v Tyrone.1.Ryan. 2.Morley.3.Foley 4.Tom Sull 5.Okunbar 6.Adrian 7.Grahan 8.Sean O Brien 9.Joe O Connor 10.Diarmuid 11.Paudie 12.Cillian Burke 13.David 14.Dara Roche 15.Seanie Morley doesn't have the legs anymore for a corner back slot. It's on the half back line or nowhere. Adrian doesn't have the head to be a number 6, neither does okunbar mind you but I agree something has to change from the last day. I'd go Graham, foley, tom sull inside white, xxxxx, Begley(if available) and the rest of your team is actually spot on. I really don't know what to do at 6, Morley and Murphy's legs are both gone. I'd love if Breen was fit, I think he's profile is perfect for 6 and has a great head for the game. I'd like to give Tony Brosnan a go again instead of Roche. I wish Tony would play for Kerry the way he does for the crokes. He could score ten points for the crokes but can't seem to bring that form into Kerry. Maybe he's the main man with crokes and not for Kerry could be the problem. I actually don't know what the answer is but I can't accept him not being good enough because someday he will shoot the lights out for Kerry and we will say where did that come from...
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 27, 2024 8:57:57 GMT
It was said on the RTÉ GAA podcast (a good show usually) that Jack Barry is going to become a better player in the eyes of many as the year rolls on.
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Post by mainevalley on Feb 27, 2024 9:21:03 GMT
It was said on the RTÉ GAA podcast (a good show usually) that Jack Barry is going to become a better player in the eyes of many as the year rolls on. As I said earlier in the year, Jack the best defensive midfielder we have, doesn't have a huge amount of football but knows that but Kerry supporters didn't like he lack of football but he negated others and allows Diarmuid push forward a bit. If Sean O Brien could get right he would be closest to him
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Post by kerryboyo on Feb 27, 2024 12:39:55 GMT
Jack won’t make multiple changes but this could be option to suit how the game has gone and how we like to play in a ideal world we like to have a sweeper in front of the full back line we could set this up more fluently rather then a midfielder dropping to 6 as we don’t have a marker in midfielder like we previously had in Barry
If it’s fast ball counter attack you have to play man on man but if it’s slow paced football handpassing etc if the opponent is coming down with the ball on the right side(number 10/5 for the opponent) on the opposite side you could have a situation where a wing back tucks into be a sweeper/plus one and a wing forward picks up the wing backs man with a corner forward who will be roaming who’ll pick up the free wing back leaving a corner back free is a idea Peter Keane actually did it once or twice I remember it vs Tyrone in 2019
Shane Ryan
Graham OSullivan Jason Foley Tom OSullivan Tadgh Morley Gavin White Paul Murphy Diarmuid OConnor Cillian Burke Sean OBrien Paudie Clifford Joe O Connor Dylan Geaney David Clifford Seanie Shea(Roaming)
Not too much changes but could be worth a look
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Post by kerry4sam88 on Feb 27, 2024 23:27:52 GMT
I know Jack is not one for wholesale changes and I dont believe for one second he would pick this team but I do think we need to freshen it up a little bit. I'm basing this on the squad that travelled to Dublin at the weekend as we don't know much about any potential returns so I'd like to see a team as follows: 1.S.Ryan
2.G.O'Sullivan 3.J.Foley 4. D.Bourke
5.S.O'Brien 6.T. Morley 7.G.White
8.S. Okunbor 9.J. O'Connor
10.D.O'Connor11.P.Clifford 12.C.Burke
13.D.Clifford 14.S.O'Shea 15.D.Geaney
Goalkeeper picks itself. I'd like to give Bourke another chance. I know he'd be up against it particularly on McCurry but we need to see more than just a half of football to know if he's good enough for this level.
We need to add height to our half back line and half forward line to counteract Morgan's boomers hense I've gone with Sean O' Brien and by bringing in Stefan to midfield I believe he might have that bit of defensive instinct in him to sit back in the Jack Barry role with him usually playing in the half back line for Na Gaeil allowing Diarmuid to push into the half forward line. Diarmuid hasn't had a great time of late in the centre but I believe he'd be more of a scoring threath than Joe in the half forward line ( even though Joe did score 1-1 the last day out). A change of scenery might do Diarmuid the world of good!.
That leaves the full forward line of the usual culprits and I've pushed Dylan inside instead of Dara just because I think we need another scorer in there and to me Dylan hasn't done a lot wrong in any of his performances and has been a tad unlucky to be one of the first to be wipped off.
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Post by mainevalley on Feb 28, 2024 10:04:12 GMT
I know Jack is not one for wholesale changes and I dont believe for one second he would pick this team but I do think we need to freshen it up a little bit. I'm basing this on the squad that travelled to Dublin at the weekend as we don't know much about any potential returns so I'd like to see a team as follows: 1.S.Ryan 2.G.O'Sullivan 3.J.Foley 4. D.Bourke 5.S.O'Brien 6.T. Morley 7.G.White 8.S. Okunbor 9.J. O'Connor 10.D.O'Connor11.P.Clifford 12.C.Burke 13.D.Clifford 14.S.O'Shea 15.D.Geaney Goalkeeper picks itself. I'd like to give Bourke another chance. I know he'd be up against it particularly on McCurry but we need to see more than just a half of football to know if he's good enough for this level. We need to add height to our half back line and half forward line to counteract Morgan's boomers hense I've gone with Sean O' Brien and by bringing in Stefan to midfield I believe he might have that bit of defensive instinct in him to sit back in the Jack Barry role with him usually playing in the half back line for Na Gaeil allowing Diarmuid to push into the half forward line. Diarmuid hasn't had a great time of late in the centre but I believe he'd be more of a scoring threath than Joe in the half forward line ( even though Joe did score 1-1 the last day out). A change of scenery might do Diarmuid the world of good!. That leaves the full forward line of the usual culprits and I've pushed Dylan inside instead of Dara just because I think we need another scorer in there and to me Dylan hasn't done a lot wrong in any of his performances and has been a tad unlucky to be one of the first to be wipped off. I was just going to write okunbar for that midfielder spot/defensive midfielder. We have to try someone else. He has the legs whatever about anything else
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Feb 28, 2024 12:59:38 GMT
The more things change, the more they stay the same. As far back as 1996 I can remember articles in ‘The Kerryman’ lamenting our midfield woes. And so, it has been on and off for the last 30 years. Our midfield worries have become even more of a focal point since the break up of the Moran / Maher partnership. However, we have always had a senior member to bank on with a ‘junior’ partner to help out.
Darragh dovetailed with Kirby, Daly & Scanlon for large parts of his career. Maher was a constant beside Sheehan firstly and then Moran before Moran became the senior partner to various sidekicks towards the latter part of his career including: Jack Barry, Diarmuid O’Connor and Adrian Spillane for a spell. Now given he has started an 3 All Ireland Finals including a replay Diarmuid is considered the senior partner. He turns 25 this year and hopefully should be hitting his stride but, has yet to impose himself on games in a meaningful way apart from the demolition of Tyrone last year in an abject showing by the Northerners. The chosen side kick for the year ahead seems to be his name sake Joe who is still very much a unknown quantity as this level simply due to his lack of game time due to injury.
Diarmuid is a front foot footballer and I don’t think he can drop back in the pocket as it were to cover space the same way Maher, Moran, Barry and even Dara did in his latter years. I think the solution to our midfield woes might lay with Adrian Spillane. He is a workhorse player that can cover the ground. He can also defend and is combative in the tackle and an ideal man to drop back if Tadgh has a man to follow. It also allows us move Diarmuid to wing / centre forward which I think is his more natural position at intercounty. It will allow us to buttress the midfield with another big man for kickouts.
A half forward line of Cillian Burke, DOC and Paudie would have the right mix of physicality and football. Leave Seanie inside with Clifford and Geaney to roam out from the corner. In an ideal world if O’Beaglaoich was fit I would move Gavin white to midfield with Adrian Spillane and drop JOC to the bench where he could make an impact. I would try Gavin in the middle of the pitch as he is a fantastic kicker when he is not running down blind alleys. Also if he could pick up breaks and if the quick ball isn’t on his speed would attract defenders to him if he carried the ball close to goal freeing up some of our forwards. But, I think Jack is to conservative to try anything like that
My team for Sunday would be Ryan
Tom Sullivan (If fit) Jason Foley Graeme Sullivan
Bourke ( Cant cast him aside after one half of football when jack could have whipped anyone of the backs) Morely White
A Spillane JOC
Cillian Burke DOC Paudie
Dylan Geaney David Sean O’Shea
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 28, 2024 13:49:44 GMT
The more things change, the more they stay the same. As far back as 1996 I can remember articles in ‘The Kerryman’ lamenting our midfield woes. And so, it has been on and off for the last 30 years. Our midfield worries have become even more of a focal point since the break up of the Moran / Maher partnership. However, we have always had a senior member to bank on with a ‘junior’ partner to help out. Darragh dovetailed with Kirby, Daly & Scanlon for large parts of his career. Maher was a constant beside Sheehan firstly and then Moran before Moran became the senior partner to various sidekicks towards the latter part of his career including: Jack Barry, Diarmuid O’Connor and Adrian Spillane for a spell. Now given he has started an 3 All Ireland Finals including a replay Diarmuid is considered the senior partner. He turns 25 this year and hopefully should be hitting his stride but, has yet to impose himself on games in a meaningful way apart from the demolition of Tyrone last year in an abject showing by the Northerners. The chosen side kick for the year ahead seems to be his name sake Joe who is still very much a unknown quantity as this level simply due to his lack of game time due to injury. Diarmuid is a front foot footballer and I don’t think he can drop back in the pocket as it were to cover space the same way Maher, Moran, Barry and even Dara did in his latter years. I think the solution to our midfield woes might lay with Adrian Spillane. He is a workhorse player that can cover the ground. He can also defend and is combative in the tackle and an ideal man to drop back if Tadgh has a man to follow. It also allows us move Diarmuid to wing / centre forward which I think is his more natural position at intercounty. It will allow us to buttress the midfield with another big man for kickouts. A half forward line of Cillian Burke, DOC and Paudie would have the right mix of physicality and football. Leave Seanie inside with Clifford and Geaney to roam out from the corner. In an ideal world if O’Beaglaoich was fit I would move Gavin white to midfield with Adrian Spillane and drop JOC to the bench where he could make an impact. I would try Gavin in the middle of the pitch as he is a fantastic kicker when he is not running down blind alleys. Also if he could pick up breaks and if the quick ball isn’t on his speed would attract defenders to him if he carried the ball close to goal freeing up some of our forwards. But, I think Jack is to conservative to try anything like that My team for Sunday would be Ryan Tom Sullivan (If fit) Jason Foley Graeme Sullivan Bourke ( Cant cast him aside after one half of football when jack could have whipped anyone of the backs) Morely White A Spillane JOC Cillian Burke DOC Paudie Dylan Geaney David Sean O’Shea Best post I've read on here in a long time.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 28, 2024 14:34:15 GMT
Jason and Cillian at MF - a grounded Ballydonoghoor and a Wild Colonial Boyo, what a lethal combination, a combustible substance not to be interfered with!
Seriously, maybe try one at a time, though what they might lack in experience as a pair they'd more than make up for in precisely what we are missing - that ruthless, feckless disregard for everyone and anything not clad in Green and Gold!
Bring 'em on, show time folks, you have to hit rock bottom for maximum bounce, let's get this party started!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 28, 2024 15:43:44 GMT
We hardly have a better midfielder than DOC playing somewhere else on the pitch.
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