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Post by thehermit on Feb 4, 2024 21:43:51 GMT
Only catching up on this now spent an unscheduled night in A&E with my daughter. Some wonderful people work in our hospitals. Initially I was disappointed to see the Clifford's in the 26 but it was pointed out that they've not played since mid November. Hopefully thats a sufficient break and I'd imagine they are itching to go. Much better looking 15 than last week but would still have reservations around 6. Poor girl glad she got to have a great day out cheering her heroes. Ye do brilliant jobs lads and ladies indoctrinating the next generation. I've a mate that lives in Dublin whose proudest moment was her girl being the only one in the school wearing the Kerry colours when the Dublin team came with Sam last Sept. She got some awful slagging but when her Dad asked was she upset about it she just said no Dad feck them Dubs 😂
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 4, 2024 22:01:05 GMT
Only catching up on this now spent an unscheduled night in A&E with my daughter. Some wonderful people work in our hospitals. Initially I was disappointed to see the Clifford's in the 26 but it was pointed out that they've not played since mid November. Hopefully thats a sufficient break and I'd imagine they are itching to go. Much better looking 15 than last week but would still have reservations around 6. Poor girl glad she got to have a great day out cheering her heroes. Ye do brilliant jobs lads and ladies indoctrinating the next generation. I've a mate that lives in Dublin whose proudest moment was her girl being the only one in the school wearing the Kerry colours when the Dublin team came with Sam last Sept. She got some awful slagging but when her Dad asked was she upset about it she just said no Dad feck them Dubs 😂 We had a lovely chat before throw up, I told her she's a Meath girl she lives in the shadow of Newgrange but her name is a proud Kerry name. I told her supporting Kerry is special which she gave a little nod too. She's only 5..
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Post by kerryexile on Feb 4, 2024 22:04:49 GMT
The team played very well. That is not a surprise, they are all good footballers.
The great thing was that they played football. All the players were allowed express themselves. I'm not sure how that Monaghan selection compares to the selection that beat Dublin but at no stage was there any doubt about who would win today because Kerry were out playing them around the field. Long may it last.
If I can mention 1 player it has to be Cillian Burke. He has great ability, both skill and determination. All he is lacking is experience. Hopefully he will start the remaining 5 (6?) games.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 4, 2024 22:16:03 GMT
The team played very well. That is not a surprise, they are all good footballers. The great thing was that they played football. All the players were allowed express themselves. I'm not sure how that Monaghan selection compares to the selection that beat Dublin but at no stage was there any doubt about who would win today because Kerry were out playing them around the field. Long may it last. If I can mention 1 player it has to be Cillian Burke. He has great ability, both skill and determination. All he is lacking is experience. Hopefully he will start the remaining 5 (6?) games. I was really impressed with Cillian, My only slight gripe was I'd like him to take on his man a bit more and take on a shot. He could have kicked a few points today but opted to let it off.
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Post by sullyschoice on Feb 4, 2024 23:07:54 GMT
Done Buckley was there today
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Post by thehermit on Feb 4, 2024 23:44:37 GMT
Done Buckley was there today Is he still with Mayo or where is he now??
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 4, 2024 23:57:30 GMT
Done Buckley was there today Is he still with Mayo or where is he now?? He is yeah, Saw him there last night
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Post by kerryexile on Feb 5, 2024 0:06:08 GMT
The team played very well. That is not a surprise, they are all good footballers. The great thing was that they played football. All the players were allowed express themselves. I'm not sure how that Monaghan selection compares to the selection that beat Dublin but at no stage was there any doubt about who would win today because Kerry were out playing them around the field. Long may it last. If I can mention 1 player it has to be Cillian Burke. He has great ability, both skill and determination. All he is lacking is experience. Hopefully he will start the remaining 5 (6?) games. I was really impressed with Cillian, My only slight gripe was I'd like him to take on his man a bit more and take on a shot. He could have kicked a few points today but opted to let it off. Royal - I think we are saying the same thing. Confidence will come with experience. When that goal opportunity presented itself he did everything perfectly. instinct took over.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Feb 5, 2024 1:16:13 GMT
Mighty prospect is Cillian But that’s multiple times now he done some fabulous ball carrying Only to not pull the trigger Hes the opposite to trigger happy But once he sorts that out then huge upside Fair to say that we have reason to be optimistic About a good year ahead on many fronts
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Post by mike70 on Feb 5, 2024 6:14:13 GMT
A comprehensive win, with some solid performances across the sectors. Some mentioned Dara, yes credit where credit due, worked his socks off and kicked his score, Cillian also is continuing to improve, solid MF performance but both sides had periods of dominance, but great to see our lads winning kick outs. Seanie is seanie and welcome back Paudie, David and Tadhg.
We are moving towards last year team taking the field again bar done enforced absent, but the positives for the new guys is Cillian and Dylan, to less extent the geaney.
As predicted before the game Monaghan are all out, so they did leave space and we capitalised , the teams challenge is and always was how we navigate the defensive teams. Onto ASP and mayo.
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Post by mike70 on Feb 5, 2024 9:59:15 GMT
Word of caution.While yesterday was a great win we have to stay grounded.In fact this year the first two games in the league is like a mirror image of last year.Like this year we lost our first game last year to Donegal by a point (leaving us all asking questions)before beating Monaghan easily in our second game (leaving us full of hope with great performances from Dara Roche and Donal O Sullivan and others).Then we lost the next 3 games.Yes we had a good win yesterday but lets not think it was perfect as our defense was cut through quite easily a few times and only for Shane Ryan things could have been far worse.We still have loads to work on but im very happy with Cillian Burke and Joe O Connor had such big games. Agree 100%, but let us have a small 😇smile, lots to do for sure.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 5, 2024 11:21:40 GMT
I think most of us were looking at the new guys yesterday.
We all know we need a few new faces.
I think we can be optimistic that we have them.
I expect Kerry to beat Mayo in 2 weeks.
I wasn't impressed with them on Sat and I'd imagine Kerry will want to reverse last years results.
Remember yesterday was also our first win away from home in the league since 2022.
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Post by veteran on Feb 5, 2024 13:43:15 GMT
There was a lot to be happy with yesterday. Securing two points on the road of course against a formidable Monaghan team , admittedly a step below Derry, was the primary achievement. The performance of a few newcomers , perhaps some of them not so new, was hugely pleasing also.
There were also a few disquieting features, the most disturbing being carved open for two goal chances in the first half only to be rescued by Shane Ryan saving smartly. Had one or both gone in it is likely the natives would have gone feral and, as a consequence. the Monaghan team. Happily Shane rose to the occasion and thereby propelled us to eventual victory. Even though Monaghan were resilient and possessed a lot of very good players at no stage did it appear , from a TV viewers perspective, that they would win. Perhaps the lads who were at it might have a different opinion. There were times when we played textbook football bolstered by a formidable midfield showing and spearheaded by Sean O’Shea up front. It was apparent that, unlike in Tralee, we were comfortable with our kick outs both short and , more significantly, long . Joe and Diarmuid made a few soaring catches. As an aside, in spite of the evolution of football, for the better or worse is a discussion for another day, the high fetch remains the most exhilarating aspect of our game.
I will comment on three players in particular, Dylan Casey, Joe O’Connor and Cillian Burke. Doubts had started to feature in my mind about Dylan and Joe , none about Cillian. The following comments maybe refuted or at lest contested by the lads at the match where you have the advantage of the panoramic view.
As we all know Dylan came to our consciousness a couple of years ago when Stacks won the county final. His unfussy style suggested to me that by now he would be well established in our full back line. But then his progress stalled. He was mercilessly exposed by Darren Curry in Killarney and then last summer his naivety against Aiden O’Shea also in Killarney , was alarming. He was less han inspiring in the McGrath but there were signs against Derry that maybe he could flourish again, These signs were magnified yesterday. Could it be he will get a chance to redeem himself against Aiden O’Shea in Tralee in the next game. The hope is that he will have learned that it is futile playing a behemoth like Aiden from behind but rather from the side or front in order to exploit your speed and defensive instincts. In any case it appears that Dylan is still alive and kicking.
Similar to Dylan , Joe signposted his promise in that county final win. In the subsequent Munster run I felt he disappointed . Then of course he sustained his ACL injury. In the McGrath cup final I was less than impressed . He was so so against Derry but yesterday there was some evidence that the hype about Joe may have been warranted. He displayed mobility , aggression and power in the air. Of course one swallow does not a summer make but it is more reassuring than no swallow. The game against Mayo will be very enlightening.
I have seen a lot of Cillian Burke both at underage and in club games and I will be be very surprised if that man does not emerge as a vital cog for us in the near future , perhaps even this year. He is the type of player we have been craving in the half forwards line or perhaps at midfield. He is tall, strong and a powerful runner who is prepared to take on defences. This last attribute seems to be alien to too many of our players. Some here lament the fact that he does not go for his own score often. That will come in time. He does it repeatedly for Milltown Caslemaine and Mid Kerry. Remember he is still an apprentice.
The much maligned Dara Moynihan showed yesterday a lot of the characteristics of his minor days, relentless industry with the head up resulting in smart rather than cul de sac foorball. Produce this on a consistent basis Dara and a lot of us will get off your case.
I wish Jack would call Gavin White aside and tell him he does not have to make a lung bursting , often fruitless, run up the field every time he gets the ball. A judicious kick could be more productive.
I presume with the return of the Fossa freak and his bother the Geaneys may have to leave the stage. That is a pity. Without dominating in the two games so far both look to be consummate footballers. Perhaps, Paudie could be accommodated on the wing with Dylan retained on the forty.
Anyway, that is how saw it from the comfort of the couch.
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Post by fitz on Feb 5, 2024 15:05:38 GMT
Possibly collectively one of the finest displays by Kerry of diving shot blocking witnessed yesterday... Burke looks the real deal.
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Post by mike70 on Feb 5, 2024 15:29:50 GMT
There was a lot to be happy with yesterday. Securing two points on the road of course against a formidable Monaghan team , admittedly a step below Derry, was the primary achievement. The performance of a few newcomers , perhaps some of them not so new, was hugely pleasing also. There were also a few disquieting features, the most disturbing being carved open for two goal chances in the first half only to be rescued by Shane Ryan saving smartly. Had one or both gone in it is likely the natives would have gone feral and, as a consequence. the Monaghan team. Happily Shane rose to the occasion and thereby propelled us to eventual victory. Even though Monaghan were resilient and possessed a lot of very good players at no stage did it appear , from a TV viewers perspective, that they would win. Perhaps the lads who were at it might have a different opinion. There were times when we played textbook football bolstered by a formidable midfield showing and spearheaded by Sean O’Shea up front. It was apparent that, unlike in Tralee, we were comfortable with our kick outs both short and , more significantly, long . Joe and Diarmuid made a few soaring catches. As an aside, in spite of the evolution of football, for the better or worse is a discussion for another day, the high fetch remains the most exhilarating aspect of our game. I will comment on three players in particular, Dylan Casey, Joe O’Connor and Cillian Burke. Doubts had started to feature in my mind about Dylan and Joe , none about Cillian. The following comments maybe refuted or at lest contested by the lads at the match where you have the advantage of the panoramic view. As we all know Dylan came to our consciousness a couple of years ago when Stacks won the county final. His unfussy style suggested to me that by now he would be well established in our full back line. But then his progress stalled. He was mercilessly exposed by Darren Curry in Killarney and then last summer his naivety against Aiden O’Shea also in Killarney , was alarming. He was than inspiring in the McGrath but there were signs against Derry that maybe he could flourish again, These signs were magnified yesterday. Could it be he will get a chance to redeem himself against Aiden O’Shea in Tralee in the next game. The hope is that he will have learned that it is futile playing a behemoth like Aiden from behind but rather from the side or front in order to exploit your speed and defensive instincts. In any case it appears that Dylan is still alive and kicking. Similar to Dylan , Joe signposted his promise in that county final win. In the subsequent Munster run I felt he disappointed . Then of course he sustained his ACL injury. In the McGrath cup final I was less than impressed . He was so so against Derry but yesterday there was some evidence that the hype about Joe may have been warranted. He displayed mobility , aggression and power in the air. Of course one swallow does not a summer make but it is more reassuring than no swallow. The game against Mayo will be very enlightening. I have seen a lot of Cillian Burke both at underage and in club games and I will be be very surprised if that man does not emerge as a vital cog for us in the near future , perhaps even this year. He is the type of player we have been craving in the half forwards line or perhaps at midfield. He is tall, strong and a powerful runner who is prepared to take on defences. This last attribute seems to be alien to too many of our players. Some here lament the fact that he does go for his own score often. That will come in time. He does it repeatedly for Milltown Caslemaine and Mid Kerry. Remember he is still an apprentice. The much maligned Dara Moynihan showed yesterday a lot of the characteristics of his minor days, relentless industry with the head up resulting in smart rather than cul de sac foorball. Produce this on a consistent basis Dara and a lot of us will get off your case. I wish Jack would call Gavin White aside and tell him he does not have to make a lung bursting , often fruitless, run up the field every time he gets the ball. A judicious kick could be more productive. I presume with the return of the Fossa freak and his bother the Geaneys may have to leave the stage. That is a pity. Without dominating in the two games so far both look to be consummate footballers. Perhaps, Paudie could be accommodated on the wing with Dylan retained on the forty. Anyway, that is how saw it from the comfort of the couch. Great summary veteran 👏👏👏. The journey continues.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 5, 2024 15:35:11 GMT
There was a lot to be happy with yesterday. Securing two points on the road of course against a formidable Monaghan team , admittedly a step below Derry, was the primary achievement. The performance of a few newcomers , perhaps some of them not so new, was hugely pleasing also. There were also a few disquieting features, the most disturbing being carved open for two goal chances in the first half only to be rescued by Shane Ryan saving smartly. Had one or both gone in it is likely the natives would have gone feral and, as a consequence. the Monaghan team. Happily Shane rose to the occasion and thereby propelled us to eventual victory. Even though Monaghan were resilient and possessed a lot of very good players at no stage did it appear , from a TV viewers perspective, that they would win. Perhaps the lads who were at it might have a different opinion. There were times when we played textbook football bolstered by a formidable midfield showing and spearheaded by Sean O’Shea up front. It was apparent that, unlike in Tralee, we were comfortable with our kick outs both short and , more significantly, long . Joe and Diarmuid made a few soaring catches. As an aside, in spite of the evolution of football, for the better or worse is a discussion for another day, the high fetch remains the most exhilarating aspect of our game. I will comment on three players in particular, Dylan Casey, Joe O’Connor and Cillian Burke. Doubts had started to feature in my mind about Dylan and Joe , none about Cillian. The following comments maybe refuted or at lest contested by the lads at the match where you have the advantage of the panoramic view. As we all know Dylan came to our consciousness a couple of years ago when Stacks won the county final. His unfussy style suggested to me that by now he would be well established in our full back line. But then his progress stalled. He was mercilessly exposed by Darren Curry in Killarney and then last summer his naivety against Aiden O’Shea also in Killarney , was alarming. He was than inspiring in the McGrath but there were signs against Derry that maybe he could flourish again, These signs were magnified yesterday. Could it be he will get a chance to redeem himself against Aiden O’Shea in Tralee in the next game. The hope is that he will have learned that it is futile playing a behemoth like Aiden from behind but rather from the side or front in order to exploit your speed and defensive instincts. In any case it appears that Dylan is still alive and kicking. Similar to Dylan , Joe signposted his promise in that county final win. In the subsequent Munster run I felt he disappointed . Then of course he sustained his ACL injury. In the McGrath cup final I was less than impressed . He was so so against Derry but yesterday there was some evidence that the hype about Joe may have been warranted. He displayed mobility , aggression and power in the air. Of course one swallow does not a summer make but it is more reassuring than no swallow. The game against Mayo will be very enlightening. I have seen a lot of Cillian Burke both at underage and in club games and I will be be very surprised if that man does not emerge as a vital cog for us in the near future , perhaps even this year. He is the type of player we have been craving in the half forwards line or perhaps at midfield. He is tall, strong and a powerful runner who is prepared to take on defences. This last attribute seems to be alien to too many of our players. Some here lament the fact that he does go for his own score often. That will come in time. He does it repeatedly for Milltown Caslemaine and Mid Kerry. Remember he is still an apprentice. The much maligned Dara Moynihan showed yesterday a lot of the characteristics of his minor days, relentless industry with the head up resulting in smart rather than cul de sac foorball. Produce this on a consistent basis Dara and a lot of us will get off your case. I wish Jack would call Gavin White aside and tell him he does not have to make a lung bursting , often fruitless, run up the field every time he gets the ball. A judicious kick could be more productive. I presume with the return of the Fossa freak and his bother the Geaneys may have to leave the stage. That is a pity. Without dominating in the two games so far both look to be consummate footballers. Perhaps, Paudie could be accommodated on the wing with Dylan retained on the forty. Anyway, that is how saw it from the comfort of the couch. I wonder is there a case for restricting the forum, to say GAA Club members, i.e. where we are all known. Opponents will be having a right read on here of Vets analysis and indeed others, and while of course it is pretty much based on what is seen in the open, it is certainly still an advantage - what with tight margins it could be costly. In a way what I am thinking goes against my overall view of inclusivity. Another aspect is the criticism and while lads are tough enough, it can be a distraction if nothing else - maybe other will have an opinion on this topic. I don't have an agenda, just sharing my heartfelt thoughts for the good of Kerry GAA, just like the rest of you on here.
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Post by fitz on Feb 5, 2024 16:21:03 GMT
On the arguments to keep resting the Cliffords, they have had a good few weeks off, I reckon are mad to play. David is in his prime, it won't always be so. From an inter county perspective it's not a long season. Rest is rust (grain of salt required but grain of truth also). My uncle reckoned the sight of the Cliffords coming onto the pitch psychologically dented Monaghan, I would tend to agree. They spent every effort trying to foul David and rough him up. The crowd were baying for blood, in the engagement of every tackle made on him. It was really stark. He has to endure far more than most to get a free.Then hundreds of kids invade the pitch at the end charging for him, David had to make best his egress swiftly...love/hate
To keep the new player unearthing process going, maybe springing them from the bench is the way to go through the league. Both arguments somewhat satisfied.
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Post by ciarrai74 on Feb 5, 2024 17:19:26 GMT
Impressive poerformance yesterday overall. Can brush up on a few little issues too but we will go close again this year no doubt.
Love Seanie O'Shea inside as he looks mean and lean. I think with Seanie inside it frees up David Clifford further out to roam and create mayhem. David is a magician as we all know and can spot a pass before the opponent blinks. David and Paudie in that HF line could be formidable attacking wise. David can obiviously swap between inside and outfield.
Is it a decision for our backs to be bombing forward especially our FB Line. Morley almost scored a wonder goal and Casey so comfortable going forward.
Special mention to Dara Moynihan. Work horse of a player who always gives 100%
onwards and upwards. Ciarrai Abu
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Post by john4 on Feb 5, 2024 18:50:57 GMT
Impressive poerformance yesterday overall. Can brush up on a few little issues too but we will go close again this year no doubt. Love Seanie O'Shea inside as he looks mean and lean. I think with Seanie inside it frees up David Clifford further out to roam and create mayhem. David is a magician as we all know and can spot a pass before the opponent blinks. David and Paudie in that HF line could be formidable attacking wise. David can obiviously swap between inside and outfield. Is it a decision for our backs to be bombing forward especially our FB Line. Morley almost scored a wonder goal and Casey so comfortable going forward. Special mention to Dara Moynihan. Work horse of a player who always gives 100% onwards and upwards. Ciarrai Abu Seanie to Full forward is a good move for sure. Himself and Paudie doing the same job in the same place just won't work.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 5, 2024 19:06:32 GMT
Impressive poerformance yesterday overall. Can brush up on a few little issues too but we will go close again this year no doubt. Love Seanie O'Shea inside as he looks mean and lean. I think with Seanie inside it frees up David Clifford further out to roam and create mayhem. David is a magician as we all know and can spot a pass before the opponent blinks. David and Paudie in that HF line could be formidable attacking wise. David can obiviously swap between inside and outfield. Is it a decision for our backs to be bombing forward especially our FB Line. Morley almost scored a wonder goal and Casey so comfortable going forward. Special mention to Dara Moynihan. Work horse of a player who always gives 100% onwards and upwards. Ciarrai Abu Seanie to Full forward is a good move for sure. Himself and Paudie doing the same job in the same place just won't work. Thats why getting our HF line right is so important because we need Seanie at 14. No team in the country will mark Seanie and David in a FF line. Interesting the 3rd member of that FF line will also be marked by the weakest of the opposition FB men given their best will be on the two boys. Hard not to be excited about that prospect.
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Post by anriochtabu23 on Feb 5, 2024 19:20:43 GMT
The Dubs rotated their forward positions to good effect. Con O'Callaghan floating between 11 and 14.
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Post by horsebox77 on Feb 5, 2024 19:23:28 GMT
Well two points from four, is a good return considering the opening two round opposition, Derry are a team with momentum, and with the new coach bounce, coupled with the club success were always going to be a tough nut to crack. In saying that the display wasn’t too much of a worry, what pleased me most, was that the issues where were targeted by their northern counterparts in Tralee were not as evident yesterday, the primary concerns were centre field and a nonfunctioning half forward line. These key areas were addressed, and the partnership of the Tralee O’Connor’s could be a launchpad, give them two or three games to see will the partnership develop and come to fruition.
Killian Bourke was a lot of more assured and was directly involved in 1-05 at least, his frame and comfort on the ball is filling a void that has been there, but again, one swallow and all that, let’s see can the mid Kerry man build on that against Mayo and Dublin.
Seanie inside with David is a frightening prospect, however if Paudie comes too deep then there is a 30-yard void that can be easily filled by a sweeper, this needs to be worded on and honed.
Moynihan again had a solid display, but Buckley I felt could have been afforded another 15 minutes, was DC’s presence that required at that juncture, but I suppose Jack and co see the GPS stats and if that doesn’t hit the required highs, the axe is wielded.
I have concerns as do many with Murphy at 6, but this was always a temporary measure, Tadgh returned, and I expect will resume against Mayo. There is a worry on a suitable replacement come dry sod, if required. I was also surprised to see Graham withdrawn; I think he has become a key player for us and is growing in confidence. I still have my doubt in Casey, again, fine attacking but can be caught wrong side of the ball and at key stages, a firm test against Mayo may give the answers, I am also worried about O’Beagleoich, he spends a lot of time on the treatment table.
Someone again mentioned, Dan O’Donoghue, being realistic, played a few McGrath Cup early league games and played well but that was two seasons ago, I feel at this juncture he is not in Jack’s plans for league or c’ship…
Sill its all aces, two things that are the real bonus, one is we now have Monaghan on a head-to-head, second, kicking 3-15 in Monaghan is no mean feat, one that very few in division one will match or better..
Solid outing…
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 5, 2024 19:25:36 GMT
The Dubs rotated their forward positions to good effect. Con O'Callaghan floating between 11 and 14. Completely disagree, As do a lot of Dubs. Con at some stages on Sat was out around midfield. What a waste of talent. Con has been off the boil for the last 2 years.
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Post by anriochtabu23 on Feb 5, 2024 19:47:44 GMT
The Dubs rotated their forward positions to good effect. Con O'Callaghan floating between 11 and 14. Completely disagree, As do a lot of Dubs. Con at some stages on Sat was out around midfield. What a waste of talent. Con has been off the boil for the last 2 years. In recent years Con has been ineffective but when he first burst in the scene he moved around. They don't seem to get the best out of him and he hasn't done much damage against us apart from the 19 replay.
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Post by veteran on Feb 5, 2024 19:50:34 GMT
“ No team in the country will mark Seanie and David in the full forward line” . RoyalKerryfan, when I saw that comment I couldn’t help thinking about the twin towers in 2008. And remember they had the Elusive Butterfly with them. Didn’t work out too well. It is well to be mindful that any player or indeed any line can be mastered on a particular day. Still, I take your point that two lads together inside is an exciting prospect. I suppose we will have an idea after the Mayo game.
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Post by kerryexile on Feb 5, 2024 20:18:43 GMT
Con was never a player of the status that public perception bestowed on him. He had a raw ability to literally burrow through a tight defence and fire off a shot. Often they were close in and ended up in the net. Fair play to him, they changed games. But now under different management his inability to adapt to a different game plan is becoming clear. He still has that bullet shot in him but as regards winning ball out the field bringing other players into the game and being at the end of it to score, that isn't happening, and I don't think it will. I think the way Pat Gilroy wants to play doesn't suit Con.
I agree that Dylan Casey can be caught at the wrong side of his man, to cut out the attack, at times. Then the man cuts in or sets up a player to cut in and all the other defenders are trying to put out the fire. Defending is his primary job, the attacking is only a bonus.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 5, 2024 20:34:46 GMT
“ No team in the country will mark Seanie and David in the full forward line” . RoyalKerryfan, when I saw that comment I couldn’t help thinking about the twin towers in 2008. And remember they had the Elusive Butterfly with them. Didn’t work out too well. It is well to be mindful that any player or indeed any line can be mastered on a particular day. Still, I take your point that two lads together inside is an exciting prospect. I suppose we will have an idea after the Mayo game. That's fair Veteran but that was more due to their physical attributes as opposed to David and Seanie who are exceptional footballers. Most counties may have 1 specialised man marker, I'm thinking Sean Kelly, Chrisy McKeague, Fitzsimons but i can't think of any that have 2. I may be completely wrong but if we had a solid HF and midfield before this year then you'd have seen Seanie at 14 alot sooner.
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Post by anriochtabu23 on Feb 5, 2024 20:40:30 GMT
“ No team in the country will mark Seanie and David in the full forward line” . RoyalKerryfan, when I saw that comment I couldn’t help thinking about the twin towers in 2008. And remember they had the Elusive Butterfly with them. Didn’t work out too well. It is well to be mindful that any player or indeed any line can be mastered on a particular day. Still, I take your point that two lads together inside is an exciting prospect. I suppose we will have an idea after the Mayo game. That's fair Veteran but that was more due to their physical attributes as opposed to David and Seanie who are exceptional footballers. Most counties may have 1 specialised man marker, I'm thinking Sean Kelly, Chrisy McKeague, Fitzsimons but i can't think of any that have 2. I may be completely wrong but if we had a solid HF and midfield before this year then you'd have seen Seanie at 14 alot sooner. That O8 final was a disaster. How many long balls did we waste kicking in to the 2 lads.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 5, 2024 20:51:12 GMT
That's fair Veteran but that was more due to their physical attributes as opposed to David and Seanie who are exceptional footballers. Most counties may have 1 specialised man marker, I'm thinking Sean Kelly, Chrisy McKeague, Fitzsimons but i can't think of any that have 2. I may be completely wrong but if we had a solid HF and midfield before this year then you'd have seen Seanie at 14 alot sooner. That O8 final was a disaster. How many long balls did we waste kicking in to the 2 lads. That was the Tyrone final we really left behind us. No plan B that day at all.
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Post by anriochtabu23 on Feb 5, 2024 21:07:02 GMT
And Marc O'Sé wasted on marking Stevie O'Neill when Cavanagh was doing wreck. The 45 missed by Sheehan after the DOS goal chance towards the end was a killer too.
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