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Post by Whosinmidfield on Feb 6, 2023 21:57:20 GMT
How many of Geaney, Donal, Killian, Brosnan and Roche could start if everyone fit. How many could be on a 26 panel? I think just one as David’s inside partner. You’ll have Seanie at 11 and Paudie wearing 13 but playing a roaming role, as well as two wing forwards. Probably no room for more than three of them on the bench so one is likely to miss out completely.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Feb 6, 2023 22:01:05 GMT
Have we any players from 2018- 2020 minor panels? As mentioned above Joe Linehan, Devon Burns and Dylan Geaney all from 2019. Ruairi Murphy was a minor in 19 but wasn’t involved with Kerry. David Mangan from 18 is reportedly a part of the extended panel and on TG4 I saw Sean O’Brien (2019) walking down the steps in front of David Clifford so he must be part of the panel as well. The 2020 minors are still u20 this year.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Feb 6, 2023 22:12:41 GMT
Have we any players from 2018- 2020 minor panels? Joe Lenihan (2019) is the only one I can think of. Is Paul O'Shea involved at all this year? Exceptional talent at minor, be a real shame if he doesn't progress at some stage. No Paul O’Shea isn’t involved, was dropped early last year. I think if Jack took him on as a project as a future midfielder it could have massive results. He has loads of talent but just lacks defensive work rate. It’s probably a mentality thing although maybe if he reached a higher level of fitness it would help. Maybe he won’t make it no matter what but I think it’s worth a shot to try to develop him.
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Post by blacksheep21 on Feb 6, 2023 22:23:18 GMT
How many of Geaney, Donal, Killian, Brosnan and Roche could start if everyone fit. How many could be on a 26 panel? I think just one as David’s inside partner. You’ll have Seanie at 11 and Paudie wearing 13 but playing a roaming role, as well as two wing forwards. Probably no room for more than three of them on the bench so one is likely to miss out completely. I would agree with this and maybe only space for two of them on the bench but injuries will play a part with such a condense season and more games so panel depth will be key
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Post by The16thMan on Feb 6, 2023 23:11:21 GMT
Not sure about "many years to come" Donal Down yes but Darragh is 28. Yeah Darragh is 28 this year, didn't play minor or U21 with Kerry. Had trials at minor for Mickey Ned O'Sullivan but didn't make the team. Darragh caught the eye with East Kerrys success in recent years which is why was brought in. Tony Brosnan made that minor panel with Mickey Ned but was only used as a substitute, didn't play U21 either for Kerry. Both are 28 this year so aren't exactly spring lambs but are coming to their peak years.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Feb 6, 2023 23:22:33 GMT
Not sure about "many years to come" Donal Down yes but Darragh is 28. Yeah Darragh is 28 this year, didn't play minor or U21 with Kerry. Had trials at minor for Mickey Ned O'Sullivan but didn't make the team. Darragh caught the eye with East Kerrys success in recent years which is why was brought in. Tony Brosnan made that minor panel with Mickey Ned but was only used as a substitute, didn't play U21 either for Kerry. Both are 28 this year so aren't exactly spring lambs but are coming to their peak years. Looking at the terrace talk website, Tony was only a sub for the u21s against Cork having played the previous 2 games but came on for the Seniors in the All Ireland quarter final against Clare later that year. Wasn’t that an odd one by Eamonn considering he didn’t even play him in the league the following year, unless Tony had injury issues.
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Post by mossie on Feb 7, 2023 0:03:42 GMT
Not sure about "many years to come" Donal Down yes but Darragh is 28. Yeah Darragh is 28 this year, didn't play minor or U21 with Kerry. Had trials at minor for Mickey Ned O'Sullivan but didn't make the team. Darragh caught the eye with East Kerrys success in recent years which is why was brought in. Tony Brosnan made that minor panel with Mickey Ned but was only used as a substitute, didn't play U21 either for Kerry. Both are 28 this year so aren't exactly spring lambs but are coming to their peak years. Dara Roche played under 21 with Kerry traleetoday.ie/darragh-to-step-down-as-cork-u21s-make-it-five-in-a-row-against-kerry/
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Post by hurlingman on Feb 7, 2023 7:30:01 GMT
Not sure about "many years to come" Donal Down yes but Darragh is 28. Yeah Darragh is 28 this year, didn't play minor or U21 with Kerry. Had trials at minor for Mickey Ned O'Sullivan but didn't make the team. Darragh caught the eye with East Kerrys success in recent years which is why was brought in. Tony Brosnan made that minor panel with Mickey Ned but was only used as a substitute, didn't play U21 either for Kerry. Both are 28 this year so aren't exactly spring lambs but are coming to their peak years. Both played U21 Kerry just didn't do very well. Dara Roche won n All-Ireland with the Juniors in I think 2015. He's just taken a bit longer to get his chance at senior level.
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Post by An Ciarraíoch Taistealaíoch on Feb 7, 2023 14:04:00 GMT
You'd really have to admire the dedication of a lad who keeps training away for years in the hope of making a County panel. I was surprised when Eamonn "outed" Darragh for his age on Sunday night as I'd presumed he was early to mid 20s. He's very developed physically for a lad who isn't inside for years. Some commitment by him (and others). I hope they continue to make an impact.
Edit, for every lad that sticks at it and "makes it", I wonder how many do not? These lads are the unsung heros of the county as they rise the bar for others. Personally, I'd have just said "feck that" and just played with my club.
(In case anyone is wondering, I was never at risk of making that commitment...)
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Post by homerj on Feb 7, 2023 15:32:37 GMT
in terms of his physical development, i could be wrong here but I think Dara is a personal trainer thus would be well experienced in S & C on his own personal development.
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Post by Jo90 on Feb 7, 2023 16:55:08 GMT
It must be a great fillip for club players around Kerry aged 23 to 27 to see Roche and O'Sullivan making it at an age when they might otherwise have thought their chance was gone.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Feb 7, 2023 17:28:31 GMT
Donal Down is only 22 turning 23 this year, Eamonn added a few years to him on the Sunday Game I think he said he was turning 25.
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Post by horsebox77 on Feb 7, 2023 19:53:12 GMT
Back to Sundays game, there was an obvious improvement and sharpness in ball handling, apart from one or two spills it was obvious that our players had increased the ball activity in the weeks training, our back six were again solid, the leadership qualities of Tadgh is becoming more and more prevalent.
We more then broke even at midfield, Jack Barry put in a serious shift tracking and tackling, he is some unit and in fairness, his positioning behind midfield really blocks the route to goal, up front as everyone alluded to, Donal Down had some shift, 1-03 from play was impressive, however, I would rather if they had removed him from play ten minutes earlier, he was carrying his left shoulder late on and this I fear may prevent him from starting in Mayo, hope I’m wrong, but I have this fear.
Outside him, Adrian lasted the full seventy, the camera often doesn’t do him justice, time and time again, he filtered back, blocking out space and the attacking channel, as a result the ball was reworked to the other wing.
Brosnan, again I find myself frustrated by both be and the play of Darran, it was only when Paudie came into the forty that we really opened up the northern side.
I’m surprised at the amount of frees we are missing, admittedly Seanie is unavailable but still, any intercounty player should be capable of popping the ball between the sticks from 35 yards.
Next week, the panel will be considerably stronger, I expect Shane Ryan to return, Paudie I feel will start, Seanie is reported to be involved next week, whether he starts or not will depend on Jack, however, the volume of fees and 45’s missed may force his hand, who loses out will be interesting, I suspect, The two Crokes lads may feel the chop up front,
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Post by Jo90 on Feb 7, 2023 20:48:40 GMT
Back to Sundays game, there was an obvious improvement and sharpness in ball handling, apart from one or two spills it was obvious that our players had increased the ball activity in the weeks training, our back six were again solid, the leadership qualities of Tadgh is becoming more and more prevalent. We more then broke even at midfield, Jack Barry put in a serious shift tracking and tackling, he is some unit and in fairness, his positioning behind midfield really blocks the route to goal, up front as everyone alluded to, Donal Down had some shift, 1-03 from play was impressive, however, I would rather if they had removed him from play ten minutes earlier, he was carrying his left shoulder late on and this I fear may prevent him from starting in Mayo, hope I’m wrong, but I have this fear. Outside him, Adrian lasted the full seventy, the camera often doesn’t do him justice, time and time again, he filtered back, blocking out space and the attacking channel, as a result the ball was reworked to the other wing. Brosnan, again I find myself frustrated by both be and the play of Darran, it was only when Paudie came into the forty that we really opened up the northern side. I’m surprised at the amount of frees we are missing, admittedly Seanie is unavailable but still, any intercounty player should be capable of popping the ball between the sticks from 35 yards. Next week, the panel will be considerably stronger, I expect Shane Ryan to return, Paudie I feel will start, Seanie is reported to be involved next week, whether he starts or not will depend on Jack, however, the volume of fees and 45’s missed may force his hand, who loses out will be interesting, I suspect, The two Crokes lads may feel the chop up front, A stop gap solution for the frees would be Shane Ryan who was imperious in his free-taking for Rathmore recently.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 7, 2023 20:52:39 GMT
Back to Sundays game, there was an obvious improvement and sharpness in ball handling, apart from one or two spills it was obvious that our players had increased the ball activity in the weeks training, our back six were again solid, the leadership qualities of Tadgh is becoming more and more prevalent. We more then broke even at midfield, Jack Barry put in a serious shift tracking and tackling, he is some unit and in fairness, his positioning behind midfield really blocks the route to goal, up front as everyone alluded to, Donal Down had some shift, 1-03 from play was impressive, however, I would rather if they had removed him from play ten minutes earlier, he was carrying his left shoulder late on and this I fear may prevent him from starting in Mayo, hope I’m wrong, but I have this fear. Outside him, Adrian lasted the full seventy, the camera often doesn’t do him justice, time and time again, he filtered back, blocking out space and the attacking channel, as a result the ball was reworked to the other wing. Brosnan, again I find myself frustrated by both be and the play of Darran, it was only when Paudie came into the forty that we really opened up the northern side. I’m surprised at the amount of frees we are missing, admittedly Seanie is unavailable but still, any intercounty player should be capable of popping the ball between the sticks from 35 yards. Next week, the panel will be considerably stronger, I expect Shane Ryan to return, Paudie I feel will start, Seanie is reported to be involved next week, whether he starts or not will depend on Jack, however, the volume of fees and 45’s missed may force his hand, who loses out will be interesting, I suspect, The two Crokes lads may feel the chop up front, A stop gap solution for the frees would be Shane Ryan who was imperious in his free-taking for Rathmore recently. He also hit a free as good as Rian O'Neills free from the same side against Mayo in the league final.
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Post by horsebox77 on Feb 7, 2023 20:55:42 GMT
Yes, agree, we were saying the same on the terrace Sunday.
However, it's poor fair when an intercounty forward can't put the ball over the bar from 30 yards
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