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Post by horsebox77 on Aug 5, 2022 10:43:53 GMT
A fella that popped into my head thinking about 2023 and beyond was Paul Walsh, where is he now and has he fallen off the inter-county radar? Np offense to the Brosna lad, but IMO he may struggle at Intercounty Level. He would have to prove himself at county championship level first and have to impress with St. Kerians to put himself in the shop window. |
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Post by john4 on Aug 5, 2022 10:57:45 GMT
This year's county championship is one for the ambitious Kerry senior prospects to really make themselves known. There's a very real opportunity here for guys to be brought into an All-Ireland winning outfit that clearly needs improvement in certain areas as well as depth in the subs. It's all there for the fellas who want it the most.
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Post by thehermit on Aug 5, 2022 11:09:12 GMT
This year's county championship is one for the ambitious Kerry senior prospects to really make themselves known. There's a very real opportunity here for guys to be brought into an All-Ireland winning outfit that clearly needs improvement in certain areas as well as depth in the subs. It's all there for the fellas who want it the most. A great point and what should give any ambitious, would be Kerry player massive encouragement is Kerry was always a county where fellas who never had much or any underage career could become stars and serial Celtic Cross winners.
All anyone taking the field over the next few months has to do is look at the example of Paudie Clifford. If that man can become an All-Ireland champion after only beginning his career aged 24, the sky's the limit.
Hopefully it all makes for a cracking few weeks of club football - I just hope RTE/TG4 and the streaming services used last year mean those of us frequently away from home can enjoy as much as possible!
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Post by john4 on Aug 5, 2022 11:22:23 GMT
This year's county championship is one for the ambitious Kerry senior prospects to really make themselves known. There's a very real opportunity here for guys to be brought into an All-Ireland winning outfit that clearly needs improvement in certain areas as well as depth in the subs. It's all there for the fellas who want it the most. A great point and what should give any ambitious, would be Kerry player massive encouragement is Kerry was always a county where fellas who never had much or any underage career could become stars and serial Celtic Cross winners.
All anyone taking the field over the next few months has to do is look at the example of Paudie Clifford. If that man can become an All-Ireland champion after only beginning his career aged 24, the sky's the limit.
Hopefully it all makes for a cracking few weeks of club football - I just hope RTE/TG4 and the streaming services used last year mean those of us frequently away from home can enjoy as much as possible!
Absolutely. We need to get away from the idea that just because a lad has won an U17/minor All Ireland, all he has to do is wait his turn before he'll be called upon. There's plenty of lads who may have lost out on making these underage teams on marginal calls, they could be after putting in fierce work ala Paudie Clifford with the hope of making it. It's wide open for me. |
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Aug 5, 2022 17:06:11 GMT
A fella that popped into my head thinking about 2023 and beyond was Paul Walsh, where is he now and has he fallen off the inter-county radar? Yes, he has fallen off and to be honest I’m not sure was he ever on it |
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Post by mossie on Aug 7, 2022 21:13:52 GMT
I expect him to look at some new faces in the league . Moran and Geaney could go . Keepers Devon Burns and Marc Kelliher are upcoming keepers but I think he’ll rotate Murphy and Ryan again unless they are injured The only other keep outside that would be Eoghan O’Brien but I’m not sure if he is in his plans Backs Dan O’Donoghue Dylan Casey Jack O’Shea will all get a look I expect Mike Breen to be back Dan O’Brien is a guy I always liked as a back Injuries have curtailed him but he’s a Jack type player Interested to see how he’ll use Okunbar Another back I always liked is Tom Leo O’Sullivan I’d like to see him in there Pa Warren Cian Gammell could get a look . Dan McCarthy and Owen Fitzgerald are promising if they can stay healthy. Midfield Joe O’Connor I expect to see a lot of game time . Mark Ryan is another possibility or will he try Okunbar there Darragh Lyne is promising down the line Sean O’Brien and Ruairi Murphy are future prospects Forwards Paul O’Shea has all the skills to make it will Jack give him a look ? David Shaw Eddie Horan Donal O’Sullivan All possibilities Adam Donoghue is another guy I think has the skills to make it Dylan Geaney and Cillian Burke are prospects down the road Interesting to see who he looks at At least one back a midfielder and a forward would be great to find in the league is Donal O'Sullivan injured? didnt play for kilgarvan in the intermediate hurling final midweek or v Duagh today in the football |
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 8, 2022 15:43:03 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 8, 2022 15:49:06 GMT
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Post by peanuts on Aug 8, 2022 16:03:37 GMT
A fella that popped into my head thinking about 2023 and beyond was Paul Walsh, where is he now and has he fallen off the inter-county radar? Yes, he has fallen off and to be honest I’m not sure was he ever on it He was playing for UL in the Sigerson this year and he looked unfit. I'm not sure if he was coming back from injury or not. |
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Post by piggott on Aug 8, 2022 17:36:38 GMT
Is County Championship draw on any media outlet?
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Post by john4 on Aug 8, 2022 18:31:56 GMT
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Post by kerryexile on Aug 8, 2022 18:52:15 GMT
One thing that strikes me and no one has mentioned it, is David Clifford next season. All great players reach a point in their career where they dominate and put their stamp on an AI final. We had Maurice in '97, Mikey Sheehy in '78, Jack O' a couple of times. David did it this year. A great achievement for someone who is still only 23. He was tightly marked before but next year he will be surrounded and staying within the rules will not be a priority. This is a situation that needs to be identified and planned for. It would be great to see David having a mentor, a wise old head who is not part of management for cathartic chats. For one thing, I think he should be relieved of tackling duties because he is so tall it appears he is reaching for the neck, and anyway the player goes down like a bag of spuds.
Joe is a great prospect but is still very raw and needs every inter-county game available to him to grow into the part.
One player mentioned by Crokes that I thought would be established at this stage is David Shaw. He can finish in tight situations around the square or take a point from 50 metres. He needs a good co. championship.
I don't get to see as much club football as I would like so I can't list names but I hope a few players put their hands up during the championships, plural yes, there could be an unpolished diamond playing junior.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 8, 2022 19:05:25 GMT
One thing that strikes me and no one has mentioned it, is David Clifford next season. All great players reach a point in their career where they dominate and put their stamp on an AI final. We had Maurice in '97, Mikey Sheehy in '78, Jack O' a couple of times. David did it this year. A great achievement for someone who is still only 23. He was tightly marked before but next year he will be surrounded and staying within the rules will not be a priority. This is a situation that needs to be identified and planned for. It would be great to see David having a mentor, a wise old head who is not part of management for cathartic chats. For one thing, I think he should be relieved of tackling duties because he is so tall it appears he is reaching for the neck, and anyway the player goes down like a bag of spuds. Joe is a great prospect but is still very raw and needs every inter-county game available to him to grow into the part. One player mentioned by Crokes that I thought would be established at this stage is David Shaw. He can finish in tight situations around the square or take a point from 50 metres. He needs a good co. championship. I don't get to see as much club football as I would like so I can't list names but I hope a few players put their hands up during the championships, plural yes, there could be an unpolished diamond playing junior. To my eye David Clifford is rightly excused from heavy defensive work. He should work on the tackling he does do perhaps. |
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Post by Jo90 on Aug 9, 2022 19:54:00 GMT
To my eye David Clifford is rightly excused from heavy defensive work. He should work on the tackling he does do perhaps. Absolutely!I believe in hard graft but David is better served and Kerry bettered served with David in our attacking half at all times. I have been criticised over my views on David Clifford in the past but I believe in what I see. First of all David is a football genius and maybe the goat but like all brilliant stars there are flaws. I named his 3 flaws. One was his shooting and taking on near impossible shots (although he is the one player capable of scoring alot of them). Two was his tackling and 3.Picking up silly cards. Now I watched the full 2020 munster semi v Cork again a few night ago and without hesitation I will say David probably cost Kerry the game. He scored one fab point but miseed 4 very easy scores including two very handy frees. Alot of that was lack of concentration and a kind of over confidence. Thankfully that seems to have been eradicated this year and his free taking was sublime and he seems to take more care too which is great. His tackling still not great but we can forgive that. His silly fouls can be worked on and his shot selection has improved no end. For those reasons the genius that is David is work in progress and will get even better. I'm not one bit worried about him next year. The best is yet to come from David and the very thought of that is mouth watering Surely two and three are the same thing 🤔 |
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Post by veteran on Aug 9, 2022 21:05:38 GMT
Memo to David C. : David please continue to take to those impossible shots and score those impossible points,
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 9, 2022 21:30:37 GMT
FFS some of us need to take our heads up from where the sun don't shine.
DC is probably already the best footballer ever and, well you can se where the term 'keyboard warrior' comes from, joe soaps advising him how to play football.
It is now a flaw to routinely score 9 'impossible points' and win an AI final in the process.
I won't go into 2020 vs Cork suffice as to say he was right about Paudie and PK obviously wasn't.
Refs need to, and hopefully will, learn re David's tackling as opposed to fouling, much of which is awesome strength and relative height.
Anyone with a brain and an eye in their heads will know he is infallible.
Maybe those who saw both David and Mark O'Connor play in the flesh might put a bit of meat on the bone here, with much a do on MO'C on what might have been.
I agree to differ re my take on DC - please don't argue, seldom I'd say so and while I might change my my religion, maybe even my favourite tipple, I'm not for changing on DC, ever!
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 9, 2022 21:38:50 GMT
Anyone with a brain and an eye in their heads will know he is infallible. What a statement! Pope Francis is thinking of retiring i hear. I hope we don't lose DC to Rome. |
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 9, 2022 21:57:15 GMT
FFS some of us need to take our heads up from where the sun don't shine. DC is probably already the best footballer ever and, well you can se where the term 'keyboard warrior' comes from, joe soaps advising him how to play football. It is now a flaw to routinely score 9 'impossible points' and win an AI final in the process. I won't go into 2020 vs Cork suffice as to say he was right about Paudie and PK obviously wasn't. Refs need to, and hopefully will, learn re David's tackling as opposed to fouling, much of which is awesome strength and relative height. Anyone with a brain and an eye in their heads will know he is infallible. Maybe those who saw both David and Mark O'Connor play in the flesh might put a bit of meat on the bone here, with much a do on MO'C on what might have been. I agree to differ re my take on DC - please don't argue, seldom I'd say so and while I might change my my religion, maybe even my favourite tipple, I'm not for changing on DC, ever! Read my post properly Bally before making false posts. I spoke of previous criticisms of DC which I'm delighted seem to be gone. When did I say his 9 points was a flaw. David s final display was absolutely brilliant and while some said Shane Walsh deserved man of mayvh as he scored more than David and more from play I stated No!, David should be Man of match as David was excellent while Shane erred in 2nd half. David was man of the match and player of the year for me and as I've stated already he will probably be the g.o.a.t.I wish people would read posts properly and get the right context. You post was clear to me anyway. Some obvious faults have been eliminated and there is good reason to believe the others will be too. His kicking off the left foot is light years better than in 2021 for instance. There is a danger that he will 'clothes line' someone someday with that awkward tackle and get a red card. Hopefully that will be worked on too. |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 9, 2022 23:51:52 GMT
Read my post properly Bally before making false posts. I spoke of previous criticisms of DC which I'm delighted seem to be gone. When did I say his 9 points was a flaw. David s final display was absolutely brilliant and while some said Shane Walsh deserved man of mayvh as he scored more than David and more from play I stated No!, David should be Man of match as David was excellent while Shane erred in 2nd half. David was man of the match and player of the year for me and as I've stated already he will probably be the g.o.a.t.I wish people would read posts properly and get the right context. You post was clear to me anyway. Some obvious faults have been eliminated and there is good reason to believe the others will be too. His kicking off the left foot is light years better than in 2021 for instance. There is a danger that he will 'clothes line' someone someday with that awkward tackle and get a red card. Hopefully that will be worked on too. - this must be the craziest statement ever made on here. As young Vet says, keep picking them off David - otherwise Sam would be in Galway. He is 'infallible' in so much as as he is open to human err, but as the greatest he is the nearest to that in the religion that is the GAA - I'm a Christian but how Church issues have been handled hardly decorates anyone in glory, there are a few others nearer David's command of their chosen endeavour that his Holiness. Ciarriamick, is that what you think of the greatest? Take a step back - sleep on it, consider the perspective of what we are talking about here. It was a great AI, close, we closed it out, DC's point - ah, look, let's agree to disagree, I haven't the stomach fort this. |
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Post by kot on Aug 10, 2022 15:53:18 GMT
What about Kearney of Spa for the forwards?
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Post by thehermit on Aug 11, 2022 9:52:24 GMT
Seeing as he is being talked about on another Thread what has happened to Tom O'Sullivan of Dingle as regards Kerry, seems to have slipped away from the panel altogether the last couple of years.
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Post by crokes86 on Aug 31, 2022 16:40:00 GMT
If you had to pick an u25 team for next year who would be on it to take the next step up to the next level
1 Devon Burns
2 Dylan Casey
3 Stefan Okunbar
4 Pa Warren
5 Mike Breen
6 Graham O’Sullivan
7 Dan O’Brien
8 Diarmuid O’Connor
9 Joe O’Connor
10 Dara Moynihan
11 Sean O’Shea
12 Sean Horan
13 Paul O’Shea
14 David Clifford
15 Donal O’Sullivan
16 Marc Kelliher
17 David Shaw
18 Mark Ryan
19 Eddie Horan
20 Dan McCarthy
21 Adam Donoghue
22 Cian Gammell
23 Paul Walsh
24 Darragh Lyne
25 Fiachra Clifford
26 Sean O’Brien
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 1, 2022 12:12:29 GMT
If you had to pick an u25 team for next year who would be on it to take the next step up to the next level 1 Devon Burns 2 Dylan Casey 3 Stefan Okunbar 4 Pa Warren 5 Mike Breen 6 Graham O’Sullivan 7 Dan O’Brien 8 Diarmuid O’Connor 9 Joe O’Connor 10 Dara Moynihan 11 Sean O’Shea 12 Sean Horan 13 Paul O’Shea 14 David Clifford 15 Donal O’Sullivan 16 Marc Kelliher 17 David Shaw 18 Mark Ryan 19 Eddie Horan 20 Dan McCarthy 21 Adam Donoghue 22 Cian Gammell 23 Paul Walsh 24 Darragh Lyne 25 Fiachra Clifford 26 Sean O’Brien Very interesting post. |
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Post by onlykerry on Sept 1, 2022 12:18:27 GMT
If you had to pick an u25 team for next year who would be on it to take the next step up to the next level 1 Devon Burns 2 Dylan Casey 3 Stefan Okunbar 4 Pa Warren 5 Mike Breen 6 Graham O’Sullivan 7 Dan O’Brien 8 Diarmuid O’Connor 9 Joe O’Connor 10 Dara Moynihan 11 Sean O’Shea 12 Sean Horan 13 Paul O’Shea 14 David Clifford 15 Donal O’Sullivan 16 Marc Kelliher 17 David Shaw 18 Mark Ryan 19 Eddie Horan 20 Dan McCarthy 21 Adam Donoghue 22 Cian Gammell 23 Paul Walsh 24 Darragh Lyne 25 Fiachra Clifford 26 Sean O’Brien Are you suggesting lads on current form or what they did on past minor and u20 squads? From what I hear several of those names are not showing much form or commitment at present. |
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Post by crokes86 on Sept 1, 2022 13:41:19 GMT
Apart from Dan McCarthy Mike Breen
and Donal O’Sullivan who’ve had injuries
They are all playing with their clubs
Dan O’Brien is a guy they could look at in the backs
Sean Horan in the forwards
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Post by mossie on Sept 5, 2022 19:11:46 GMT
Apart from Dan McCarthy Mike Breen and Donal O’Sullivan who’ve had injuries They are all playing with their clubs Dan O’Brien is a guy they could look at in the backs Sean Horan in the forwards Is Donal injured again? noted him missing in a kilgarvan line up lately. hope not, has had such a bad run with injuries and has such talent. I thought Dan Mac was back playing after his cruciate, maybe he picked up another injury |
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Post by firiesfists1 on Sept 5, 2022 20:02:56 GMT
I saw Dan McCarthy playing in the recent club championship v Spa. Named centre back but playing midfield. Played well and kicked one lovely point.
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Post by horsebox77 on Sept 5, 2022 20:35:55 GMT
I've seen Marc Kelliher a few times now and he has always been impressive.
He is unlucky in that he shares the same divisional team as Shane Ryan so unlikely to be in a position to put himself in the shop window in the local chsmpionship.
He is def one I'd be looking at to challenge for the number 16 jersey.
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Post by mossie on Sept 5, 2022 20:39:57 GMT
I saw Dan McCarthy playing in the recent club championship v Spa. Named centre back but playing midfield. Played well and kicked one lovely point. always had him down more as a back, dont see him as a midfielder though maybe needs must at club level |
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Post by onlykerry on Sept 24, 2022 8:43:08 GMT
Fingers crossed that Mark O Connor, having won the AFL Grand Final with Geelong, might turn his thoughts to putting a senior celtic cross in his cabinet.
I note he was only drafted into the game as a late replacement - is his Aussie star beginning to wane?
He would be a welcome asset for our midfield department which is beginning to look a little thin going into 2023 with injuries to JOC and uncertainty with DM who has yet to make his intentions known.
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