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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Nov 29, 2022 8:20:53 GMT
Looks more like a hand off for sure, I don’t see a striking action, on the margins I guess. Kor did well to see out the game with 14 men for over 45 min, they will need to reduce the errors to progress. Great victories also for rathmore and fossa. There was NO striking action by Moran - ref would have promptly issued a straight red if there was a hint of a strike. Ref looked like he couldn’t wait to issue a 2nd yellow to send him off. I’ve long been a vocal advocate of applying the rugby approach to such an incident- discipline the instigator. If you’re hanging out of a player, hitting him after the ball is gone and slowing down a free- and you get pushed to the ground then that’s a case of tough sh*t and have a card for your troubles |
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 29, 2022 8:34:44 GMT
Ref may have deemed it 'rough play' which is a yellow card. See number 3 under 'cautionable infractions' You can get a yellow for many things apart from striking. The ref was within his rights to give him a yellow. Another ref might have let it go but thats life. learning.gaa.ie/Rule_changesMick Mac, I am no expert on the rules, but did the ennis man not deserve a yellow as well for stopping Moran from playing on, Looks like that comes under the 'noting infractions'... going by the link i posted up of the rules. I am no expert on the rules either. There is a lot absorb. Most of us supporters have no indepth knowledge of the rules i think its fair to say. Seeing as there is a new movement out there to protect refs maybe we should all acquaint ourselves more with the rules |
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Post by againstthegrain on Nov 29, 2022 15:08:53 GMT
I spent the weekend sampling the delights of Tralee town (The Brogue Inn is much changed since my last visit there nearly 30 years ago and luckily nobody remembered I was barred). On Sunday I decided to head to Austin Stack Park where I witnessed a sometimes heated contest as Kerins O’Rahillys overcame the first half sending-off of David Moran to edge past Clare champions Éire Óg of Ennis and book their place in the Munster Club SFC Final. So borrowing a few lines from The Great Master, the following is my report on the game. It may not be 100% accurate but in my defence I was very hungover.
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This game was not a classic by any stretch of the imagination but it was a battle of unremitting fascination. As both teams went about their business with pure raw energy, I recalled the first line in Stephen Crane’s short story “The Open Boat” when he said the men were rowing so hard “none of them knew the colour of the sky”. It seems an apt quote to use for these two sides.
O’Rahilly’s were out of the blocks faster than a babysitters boyfriend when the car pulls up and had a point on the electronic scoreboard after just 15 seconds when Jack Savage pointed from 35 yards. Two minutes later a long ball into the edge of the square from Savage was fisted to the net by former Kerry star Tommy Walsh. 1.01 to 0.00 inside three minutes and O’Rahilly’s looked like they would be strolling in a Winter Wonderland for the afternoon.
However, the Ennis men were in no mood to lie down and have their belly tickled and to their credit they responded with the next three points of the game. The excellent Gavin Cooney at full forward posted two points before corner forward Mark McInerney added another after he fielded a brilliant offensive mark to reduce O’Rahilly’s lead to the bare minimum after 15 minutes.
Man of the match, Savage added a free from out the county to extend the lead before the turning point or should I say the turning card in the game arrived in the 20th minute. David Moran was booked for a foul on Eire Og centre-forward Ikem Ugweuru. When referee Sean Lonergan looks back at the replay, he won’t be happy with his decision to issue a card. There may have been sight contact but Ugweuru made the most of it with a dramatic fall to the ground. I went to the game in the company of a man from Templemore, a town that never reared a fool, and we both agreed the Eire Og centre forward had been watching too much of the World Cup during the week.
Just a minute later, Moran and Ugweuru tangled again. This time Ugweuru tried to prevent the Tralee No 8 from taking a quick free. Moran pushed him out of the way in an effort to make space. Inexplicably, the referee reached into his picked and produced a second yellow card. I couldn’t have been more astonished if he had produced a sawn off shot gun. David Moran’s sending off will rank as one of the softest ever in the history of Gaelic Football. It was technically and morally wrong. The first card warranted no more than a ticking and while he did push Ugweuru for the the second, his actions were more in frustration rather than cold blood.
It’s hard to know what effect the sending off had on the game. It is possible it harmed Eire Og as much as it harmed O’Rahilly’s. The Kerry men regrouped by asking Barry John Keane to drop a bit deeper and from this deep position he provided the ammunition for Tommy Walsh to score the next two points, one from a mark.
In the 25th minute, O’Rahilly’s flying wing forward, Gavin O’Brien, galloped like inflation at the Eire Og defence and fired a rocket at the top corner of the net but at the last second it drifted wide of the post to deny the impressive O’Brien what surely would have been goal of the year. Gavin Cooney added a pointed free for Ennis to send the teams in for the bananas and Jaffa Cakes on a score line of
1:04 to 0:04.
Winning the throw-in in Gaelic football is much underrated and it’s my belief that teams don’t pay enough attention to it. Win it or kill it should be the mantra. O’Rahilly’s won it and the ball is fed to Gavin O’Brien who once again runs at the Eire Og defence before tapping over. Two throw-ins in the game and two points for O’Rahilly’s within seconds of both. How vital those points were when the scores were tallied up.
Another Jack Savage free put the Strand Road men five clear after 35 minutes. Two minutes later, Eire Og wing back, Einne O’Connor played a one-two with Oran Cahill before dispatching an unstoppable shot to the front of the net.
1-06 to 1-04 and as Cyril Farrell would say “Game on Ger”.
Cormac Coffey was picked at No 4. He interpreted that number lightly. In fact the only position he wasn’t seen on the field was the corner back position. It should be pointed out that to his credit, Eire Og corner forward, Jarliath Collins held Coffey to two points. A surging run up the field saw him point with the outside of his right to make it a three point game again. A minute later, Jack Savage added another.
With O’Rahilly’s now conceding the kick-out, Eire Og responded with two unanswered points before Gavin O’Brien angled a run off Barry John Keane’s shoulder to make it a three point game once again with 20 mins to go. 1:09 to 1:06
From here in it was almost exclusively Eire Og possession. Cooney was fouled and pointed the free himself from a difficult angle on the 13m line. Three minutes later he would miss a free from the same angle on the 21m line. These wides were killing Eire Og. They would finish the day with nine in total
With O’Rahilly’s struggling to get their hands on the kick-out, Tommy Walsh was summoned to the midfield area. It was all shoulders to the wheel now. Ciaran Russell made it a one point game when he found a parcel of space 45m out and posted it ball over the bar. If the seats in Austin Stack Park had seat belts we would have been fastening them for the joy ride that was to come in the last few minutes.
Mark McInerney received a second yellow in the 56th minute but two minutes later, substitute Philip Talty found himself 3 v 1 in front of the O’Rahilly’s goal. A pass left or right and it was a clear goal chance. However, he chose to try tap it over the bar but his weak shot was blocked down. Maybe he had too many options and hadn’t cleared his head to concentrate on the shot. Whatever the excuse it was a costly miss.
It was keep ball for O’Rahilly’s now and a foul on Jack Savage near the Ennis dug out ended the Ennis challenge and saw the Kerry side reach their first Munster Club Final since 2009. As we left the ground, word filtered through that Newcastle West had beaten Clonmel Commercials which was a shock of sorts. I saw Newcatle West play earlier in the year and now having just witnessed O'Rahilly's play the only advice I can give to both sets of supporters heading to the game is get the dinner in before you go because it could be a long afternoon. This is a 50/50 game and I wouldn't rule out extra time.
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Post by Moderator on Nov 30, 2022 0:19:11 GMT
Moderator comment: The forum design is that posters with less than 25 posts will not have their posts displayed. This seems to work haphazardly, to put it mildly. I see "againstthegrain" posted and 3 members "liked" the post, although I couldn't see the post until I went into "edit this post" mode. Here is the post in full for any readers with similar access issues.
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I spent the weekend sampling the delights of Tralee town (The Brogue Inn is much changed since my last visit there nearly 30 years ago and luckily nobody remembered I was barred). On Sunday I decided to head to Austin Stack Park where I witnessed a sometimes heated contest as Kerins O’Rahillys overcame the first half sending-off of David Moran to edge past Clare champions Éire Óg of Ennis and book their place in the Munster Club SFC Final. So borrowing a few lines from The Great Master, the following is my report on the game. It may not be 100% accurate but in my defence I was very hungover.
😀
This game was not a classic by any stretch of the imagination but it was a battle of unremitting fascination. As both teams went about their business with pure raw energy, I recalled the first line in Stephen Crane’s short story “The Open Boat” when he said the men were rowing so hard “none of them knew the colour of the sky”. It seems an apt quote to use for these two sides.
O’Rahilly’s were out of the blocks faster than a babysitters boyfriend when the car pulls up and had a point on the electronic scoreboard after just 15 seconds when Jack Savage pointed from 35 yards. Two minutes later a long ball into the edge of the square from Savage was fisted to the net by former Kerry star Tommy Walsh. 1.01 to 0.00 inside three minutes and O’Rahilly’s looked like they would be strolling in a Winter Wonderland for the afternoon.
However, the Ennis men were in no mood to lie down and have their belly tickled and to their credit they responded with the next three points of the game. The excellent Gavin Cooney at full forward posted two points before corner forward Mark McInerney added another after he fielded a brilliant offensive mark to reduce O’Rahilly’s lead to the bare minimum after 15 minutes.
Man of the match, Savage added a free from out the county to extend the lead before the turning point or should I say the turning card in the game arrived in the 20th minute. David Moran was booked for a foul on Eire Og centre-forward Ikem Ugweuru. When referee Sean Lonergan looks back at the replay, he won’t be happy with his decision to issue a card. There may have been sight contact but Ugweuru made the most of it with a dramatic fall to the ground. I went to the game in the company of a man from Templemore, a town that never reared a fool, and we both agreed the Eire Og centre forward had been watching too much of the World Cup during the week.
Just a minute later, Moran and Ugweuru tangled again. This time Ugweuru tried to prevent the Tralee No 8 from taking a quick free. Moran pushed him out of the way in an effort to make space. Inexplicably, the referee reached into his picked and produced a second yellow card. I couldn’t have been more astonished if he had produced a sawn off shot gun. David Moran’s sending off will rank as one of the softest ever in the history of Gaelic Football. It was technically and morally wrong. The first card warranted no more than a ticking and while he did push Ugweuru for the the second, his actions were more in frustration rather than cold blood.
It’s hard to know what effect the sending off had on the game. It is possible it harmed Eire Og as much as it harmed O’Rahilly’s. The Kerry men regrouped by asking Barry John Keane to drop a bit deeper and from this deep position he provided the ammunition for Tommy Walsh to score the next two points, one from a mark.
In the 25th minute, O’Rahilly’s flying wing forward, Gavin O’Brien, galloped like inflation at the Eire Og defence and fired a rocket at the top corner of the net but at the last second it drifted wide of the post to deny the impressive O’Brien what surely would have been goal of the year. Gavin Cooney added a pointed free for Ennis to send the teams in for the bananas and Jaffa Cakes on a score line of
1:04 to 0:04.
Winning the throw-in in Gaelic football is much underrated and it’s my belief that teams don’t pay enough attention to it. Win it or kill it should be the mantra. O’Rahilly’s won it and the ball is fed to Gavin O’Brien who once again runs at the Eire Og defence before tapping over. Two throw-ins in the game and two points for O’Rahilly’s within seconds of both. How vital those points were when the scores were tallied up.
Another Jack Savage free put the Strand Road men five clear after 35 minutes. Two minutes later, Eire Og wing back, Einne O’Connor played a one-two with Oran Cahill before dispatching an unstoppable shot to the front of the net.
1-06 to 1-04 and as Cyril Farrell would say “Game on Ger”.
Cormac Coffey was picked at No 4. He interpreted that number lightly. In fact the only position he wasn’t seen on the field was the corner back position. It should be pointed out that to his credit, Eire Og corner forward, Jarliath Collins held Coffey to two points. A surging run up the field saw him point with the outside of his right to make it a three point game again. A minute later, Jack Savage added another.
With O’Rahilly’s now conceding the kick-out, Eire Og responded with two unanswered points before Gavin O’Brien angled a run off Barry John Keane’s shoulder to make it a three point game once again with 20 mins to go. 1:09 to 1:06
From here in it was almost exclusively Eire Og possession. Cooney was fouled and pointed the free himself from a difficult angle on the 13m line. Three minutes later he would miss a free from the same angle on the 21m line. These wides were killing Eire Og. They would finish the day with nine in total
With O’Rahilly’s struggling to get their hands on the kick-out, Tommy Walsh was summoned to the midfield area. It was all shoulders to the wheel now. Ciaran Russell made it a one point game when he found a parcel of space 45m out and posted it ball over the bar. If the seats in Austin Stack Park had seat belts we would have been fastening them for the joy ride that was to come in the last few minutes.
Mark McInerney received a second yellow in the 56th minute but two minutes later, substitute Philip Talty found himself 3 v 1 in front of the O’Rahilly’s goal. A pass left or right and it was a clear goal chance. However, he chose to try tap it over the bar but his weak shot was blocked down. Maybe he had too many options and hadn’t cleared his head to concentrate on the shot. Whatever the excuse it was a costly miss.
It was keep ball for O’Rahilly’s now and a foul on Jack Savage near the Ennis dug out ended the Ennis challenge and saw the Kerry side reach their first Munster Club Final since 2009. As we left the ground, word filtered through that Newcastle West had beaten Clonmel Commercials which was a shock of sorts. I saw Newcatle West play earlier in the year and now having just witnessed O'Rahilly's play the only advice I can give to both sets of supporters heading to the game is get the dinner in before you go because it could be a long afternoon. This is a 50/50 game and I wouldn't rule out extra time.
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Post by onlykerry on Nov 30, 2022 9:40:27 GMT
Moderator - newbie posters whose posts are not visible on desktops are generally viewable on mobile devices and can be liked or commented from from the same mobile devices. I have noticed this over the years.
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Post by peanuts on Nov 30, 2022 9:45:41 GMT
Moderator - newbie posters whose posts are not visible on desktops are generally viewable on mobile devices and can be liked or commented from from the same mobile devices. I have noticed this over the years. I was just going to post the same. |
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Post by keane on Nov 30, 2022 9:52:06 GMT
You can also see them if you click the quote button and then click reply on the desktop site
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Post by peanuts on Nov 30, 2022 13:57:53 GMT
You can also see them if you click the quote button and then click reply on the desktop site Funny, that doesn't work for me on the desktop. There's no quote option for a post that's pending and when I try to reply to the topic I see the other posts but not the pending one. |
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Post by dano on Nov 30, 2022 15:45:47 GMT
Very good match report all the same.
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Post by Moderator on Nov 30, 2022 23:15:50 GMT
You can also see them if you click the quote button and then click reply on the desktop site Funny, that doesn't work for me on the desktop. There's no quote option for a post that's pending and when I try to reply to the topic I see the other posts but not the pending one.
Doesn't work from desktop or iPad for me...I have to got to "edit" function to see what was posted.
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Post by Moderator on Nov 30, 2022 23:16:13 GMT
Very good match report all the same. Agreed. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Nov 30, 2022 23:25:41 GMT
Very good match report all the same. In light of Vets self enforced sabbatical, I wonder if Vet 2.0 in 'againsthegrain' is free to attend Bally on Sunday and give a NK final review? |
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Post by Moderator on Nov 30, 2022 23:27:07 GMT
Very good match report all the same. In light of Vets self enforced sabbatical, I wonder is he free to attend Bally on Sunday and give a NK final review?
We all hope so.
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Post by greengold35 on Dec 1, 2022 10:58:59 GMT
Kerins O’Rahillys vs Newcastlewest will take place on Sat 10th in Páirc Uí Rinn with throw in @ 7.30 pm - match will be televised live by TG4 & refereed by Sean Lonergan ( Tipp) - same ref as last week vs Eire Óg.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 1, 2022 16:59:15 GMT
In light of Vets self enforced sabbatical, I wonder is he free to attend Bally on Sunday and give a NK final review? We all hope so.
The only one stopping him is himself though he is a man of his word - a bit like Rodney in 'Only Fools and Horses' resigning only for his father in law to accept it as irrevocable. Still our auld hoor is irreplaceable and a NK won't be the same gan Vet. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Dec 1, 2022 19:38:03 GMT
Ah I'll be taking the short hop over the parish border to Bally, but couldn't do justice to attempt a report to the standard accustomed by forum members
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Post by Moderator on Dec 1, 2022 21:40:39 GMT
Ah I'll be taking the short hop over the parish border to Bally, but couldn't do justice to attempt a report to the standard accustomed by forum members
Post up the final score, the half time score, how the ref did, pitch condition, who had the wind in each half and who scored vital goals and points and most of us will be happy with that.
Any embellishment on the above, like traffic, who you met on the way in or stood beside during the game, will be well received as well.
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Post by againstthegrain on Dec 1, 2022 22:23:26 GMT
Very good match report all the same. In light of Vets self enforced sabbatical, I wonder if Vet 2.0 in 'againsthegrain' is free to attend Bally on Sunday and give a NK final review? I’m not a Kerry native and as much as I enjoyed my time in the Kingdom last weekend, I won’t be making the trip to the North Kerry Final. Unfortunately my posting here will be infrequent but now that I have gone to the bother of registering, I will post whenever I feel I might have something to add to a discussion. I am not shy about offering my thoughts as hostages to fortune and although I’m wrong more often than I’m right that never stops me. If the mood takes I will do a preview of the Munster Senior Club Final and we’ll see how it goes from there. |
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Post by kerryexile on Dec 2, 2022 6:56:36 GMT
The slavish efforts to replace Veteran are pathetic in the extreme, not the way to resolve the issue at all.
As things stand a genius has left, the forum is at a serious loss and must live with that reality.
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Post by blacksheep21 on Dec 2, 2022 7:28:14 GMT
The slavish efforts to replace Veteran are pathetic in the extreme, not the way to resolve the issue at all. As things stand a genius has left, the forum is at a serious loss and must live with that reality. I thought the posts that were deleted were fairly harmless and should not have been. However the guy is no genius. I could say a lot more about his writing style, analysis and attitude in general but I won’t. He is a big boy and eventually he will realise that there is no point being a baby. He will be back. As long as there are people like you labelling him a genius, him and his ego won’t be able to resist |
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Dec 2, 2022 11:14:28 GMT
The slavish efforts to replace Veteran are pathetic in the extreme, not the way to resolve the issue at all. As things stand a genius has left, the forum is at a serious loss and must live with that reality. His reports were very good but calling the attempts by others to provide us with updates pathetic is a bit ridiculous. I hope he comes back but I also hope others continue to provide updates of games that they’ve been to |
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Post by dromiddiehard on Dec 2, 2022 11:34:40 GMT
The slavish efforts to replace Veteran are pathetic in the extreme, not the way to resolve the issue at all. As things stand a genius has left, the forum is at a serious loss and must live with that reality. If you read my post you will see, my input was quite the opposite, as I said, I will be going to the game and although I will invariably post my opinion, I have no intention of assuming the mantle or as you quote "replace". I also do think the comments were harmless and nothing untoward was intended, i also private messaged veteran as we had conversed previously. However, I have seen the other side of the coin and forums dying or losing their appeal due to anarchy. Pride is a killer. Indeed it is |
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Post by rollingstone on Dec 2, 2022 15:34:32 GMT
The slavish efforts to replace Veteran are pathetic in the extreme, not the way to resolve the issue at all. As things stand a genius has left, the forum is at a serious loss and must live with that reality. If you read my post you will see, my input was quite the opposite, as I said, I will be going to the game and although I will invariably post my opinion, I have no intention of assuming the mantle or as you quote "replace". I also do think the comments were harmless and nothing untoward was intended, i also private messaged veteran as we had conversed previously. However, I have seen the other side of the coin and forums dying or losing their appeal due to anarchy. Pride is a killer. Pride and principles are qualities sorely lacking in society today. Fair play to him for refusing to accept wholly unnecessary censorship |
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Post by sullyschoice on Dec 2, 2022 16:29:45 GMT
The slavish efforts to replace Veteran are pathetic in the extreme, not the way to resolve the issue at all. As things stand a genius has left, the forum is at a serious loss and must live with that reality. Unpleasant comment. Nobody has a monopoly on giving their report on a game. Being a good wordsmith does not give one a free pass. I enjoyed the match reports of said contributor but some of the other musings on societal matters that were tacked on at times bordered on ludicrous. |
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Post by Fado on Dec 2, 2022 17:31:44 GMT
Can we please move on from the sideshow...
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Post by againstthegrain on Dec 2, 2022 21:28:35 GMT
Munster Senior Club Final: Preview
Those of you familiar with John B Keane’s play Sive will recall the traveller Pats Bocock banging his blackthorn stick against the ground as he told his son Carthalawn to “give it your best, your almighty best”. In the dressing rooms beneath in stand in Páirc Uí Rinn next Saturday evening, there is little doubt that Kerins O’Rahilly’s manager William Harmon and Newcastle West manager Jimmy Lee will be channelling their inner Pats Bocock and exhorting their players to go out and “give it your best your almighty best”. Both men are shrewd enough to know that anything less won’t get the job done.
For many people Newcastle West are the surprise package of this year’s championship but if you drill a little bit deeper then the surprise is not really a surprise at all.
In 2015 at the quarter final stage, they were bitterly disappointed to have lost to the eventual champions Clonmel Commercials having been four points up with just five minutes to play. In the 2019 quarter final they ran Nemo Rangers all the way to the line before eventually losing out on a score line of 1-09 to 0.09. While in 2021, the beat The Nire of Waterford before eventually bowing out to Austin Stacks in the semi-final.
Newcastle West have learned a lot of lessons from those defeats. This year they have become masters of closing out tight games (a fact that I’m sure will not be lost on the Kerins O’Rahilly’s management team). In the Limerick county semi-final this year they edged past Monaleen by the bare minimum and in a controversial finish to the county final, they scored a point deep into injury time to force extra time before finally getting the better of Adare. They rinsed and repeated that trick last time out in their Munster semi-final win over Clonmel Commercials.
Ian Corbett has been a fine player for a long time now and seldom puts as much as a small toe wrong. He is central to everything the Limerick men do. At full forward, man mountain Mike McMahon will prove a handful for any defence. He is not just a target man and although not the most mobile he is capable of keeping the scoreboard ticking over if given half a chance while All-Star nominee, Cian Sheehan, is what the young people these days would describe as a “proper baller”. Marking him makes minding mice at a crossroads seem like an easy task.
I normally cite turnovers as an important factor in winning any game and indeed the team that wins the turnover count will win the game 82% of the time. While turnovers will play an important role again on Saturday I feel that the team that can transition from defence to attack the quickest, is the team that will give themselves the best chance of coming out on top. However, both teams will have to be clever with that transition. With Tommy Walsh and Mike McMahon at the edge of the square the temptation for both teams will be to launch high balls into the full forward area at every opportunity but it should be remembered both full back lines will be used to dealing with that tactic in training so a more delicate approach might be needed.
Newcastle West like to set the battleground in the middle third of the pitch. They chase aggressively in this section and are very clever with their tactical fouling, often committing the foul 50 yards from the opposition goal. This may create an issue for O’Rahilly’s as 50 yards is right on the limit of Jack Savage’s free taking distance. Therefore, if the Strand Road side are going to make inroads on Sunday, they will have to get the ball in and out of the middle third as quickly as possible.
If they can do this then they have the forwards to win this game. Gavin O’Brien made some wonderful angled runs off the shoulder against Eire Og last week. He will need to do the same again on Sunday and probably more often. David Moran will be fresh after his early dismissal in the semi-final and interestingly, Sean Lonergan, the man who sentenced him to an early bath in that game is the presiding judge again this week. But if O’Rahilly’s are to prevail, I feel they will need big performances from Jack Savage and Barry John Keane. These two players could find Shergar with a kick pass and it is that ability to transfer the ball accurately by foot that could well be the difference between the sides when the final count comes in.
So who will win?
Both teams will arrive in Páirc Uí Rinn with a simple but essential check-list.
-Go as hard as you can for as long as you can-
-Win your own kick-out-
-Transfer the ball quickly-
-Turnover opposition possession-
-Shoot from the scoring zone-
A fascinating game is in store between two teams who are so evenly matched that they will both tick off every item on the above checklist.
It is tempting to say that Newcastle West will want to make it a battle and win a low scoring game but that would be unfair and dishonest. There is more to this team than work-rate. They have some wonderful footballers who execute an uncomplicated and effective game plan.
A wise man once told me that a football field can be divided into two parts……..town and country. All down the centre of the field is the town. That’s where you meet traffic congestion. Out on the wings is the country where you’ll meet very little traffic and can drive away to your hearts content. O’Rahilly’s will want to play this game out in the country and only pop into town to collect a score. If, when in possession, they can make the field as big as possible then they could well be Munster Club Champions on Saturday night. However, if they decide to play this game in the “town” then the Limerick men might just have the edge.
This is a game that really is too close to call. Whether you are attending the game or watching it live on d’telly, the best advice I can offer you is to sit back and enjoy two teams giving it their “best, their almighty best!”
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Dec 2, 2022 23:12:02 GMT
Newcastlewest looked a very poor side when they played Stacks last year, Rahillys should be beating them.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Dec 2, 2022 23:14:06 GMT
If you read my post you will see, my input was quite the opposite, as I said, I will be going to the game and although I will invariably post my opinion, I have no intention of assuming the mantle or as you quote "replace". I also do think the comments were harmless and nothing untoward was intended, i also private messaged veteran as we had conversed previously. However, I have seen the other side of the coin and forums dying or losing their appeal due to anarchy. Pride is a killer. Pride and principles are qualities sorely lacking in society today. Fair play to him for refusing to accept wholly unnecessary censorship I’ve ran into this issue on here before myself and it can be very frustrating. The issue is 2 pronged- moderators do this in their spare time and thus are at the mercy complaints and can’t really invest much time in weighing up the merits of a conversation. Posters too regularly use the ability to complain or cite something as offensive as a way of backing out of a conversation in which they have shown themselves to be wrong or an argument which they have started and cannot win. I had the same issue recently whereby I pointed out the fact that a current Kerry player had stamped on another player in a club match. It wasn’t a rumour, it wasn’t unsubstantiated as I provided evidence of where it could (and still can be seen) however the argument back first centred around why was I making this aware to others and then eventually the posts were taken down as someone complained about finding them offensive. This really stuck a chord with me as the incident was clearly viewable for people so there was no rumour etc, and the complaint button was used as a way of suppressing factual information that people didn’t like to see being pointed out. I didn’t go as far as vet but I genuinely wondered about where this forum was goin after that. |
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Post by A.N. Other on Dec 2, 2022 23:20:53 GMT
What actually happened with Veteran? Why has he left the forum?
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