Kerry v Mayo QF 2022

[Ballyfireside]

For what it's worth can I remind contributors to say whether their views are based on being in Croker or on the couch.

From the couch I thought it was bloodless while the previous game was anything but!

DC was walking around on his bare feet after the game.

[keane]

Jun 26, 2022 17:39:48 GMT Annascaultilidie said:

David Moran was huge.

Listen, you can argue whether you'd prefer to start with him or finish with him but the idea that he's not our best midfielder by a long stretch is laughable.

[onlykerry]

Jun 26, 2022 16:24:15 GMT gaelicden said:

For those of us at home, could we not have got an impartial co-commentator this evening?

That clown was unbelievable - he had double tinted Mayo specs on without any shame. However we have the last laugh so we will offer it up

[kingdomkerry]

Poor performance. Mayo were cat.

[southward]

Jun 26, 2022 17:58:21 GMT kingdomkerry said:

Poor performance. Mayo were cat.

Yep, that just about sums it up.

Not enjoyable at all tbh.

[Premier]

Shane Ryan-
Kickouts were reasonable. Came well for one ball but fluffed another one.
GOS-
Good performance. Kicked a good point. Drove forward well
Foley-
Improved as the game went on. 2 points kicked off him but did well on a lot of balls in
TOS
Superb, drove Kerry forward. Great points and great ball to Geaney for goal chance
BOB
Very good defensively. Did some good cutting coming out of defence but lost a ball running into traffic when in the opposition area
Morley
Very solid. Did the job you expect at this stage
White
Loses the ball way too much. Thinks he can run past and through everyone. Teams have copped onto it.
Moran
Rolls Royce. One of the few players who played consistently good. Without a doubt Kerry’s best midfielder
DOC
Worrying performance. Seems to let the game pass him by when Moran plays. Poor on the ball and just didn’t get into it.
Moynihan
Fairly anonymous. Tackled hard but didn’t offer anything else
SOS
Came into it when Kerry needed him. Would like him to be more involved in general though
SOB
Felt he did a good job. Assist for Clifford goal and drove at Mayo well when needed
P. Clifford
Worst game for Kerry. Not in it at all. Worrying at this stage of the year
D. Clifford
Good goal. Injury obviously affected him. Seemed to be a concerted effort to try get him marks
Geaney
Serious finisher. What Mayo would do for him
Murphy
Solid out
Spillane
Kicked a good point. Important sub
JOC
Drove forward well. Did his chances no harm
Burns
Tidy. Still a bit unconvinced
Brosnan
Would’ve liked more time. Feel he could still make a difference

[peanuts]

I thought Graham O’Sullivan and Tom O’Sullivan were excellent but David Moran was MOTM for me. A powerhouse of a performance. Mayo missed a lot of chances early in the second half when they were on top and the we pulled away easily enough. Paul developing a bad habit of missing chances when the game is in the melting pot. Missed the goal in the first half and then messed up another chance as well. I know he scored 4 points but a couple of those were it was nearly over.
Our subs did well for the most part.
Happy enough overall. Conditions were tough and Mayo were next going to roll over. Hopefully Clifford is ok and Barry and Spillane are available for the SF.

[Kingdomson]

As I wrote in the build up, it would have been a really poor sign of Kerry if we couldn’t beat this Mayo team. Mayo were a very poor side this year, especially in the forward unit and of course we must take those missing injured players into account. Still in this game Mayo did what they always do, made a lot of chances and squandered them. Muscle memory, experience, and good old-fashioned heart kept Mayo in this game for longer than they’re true worth before Kerry coasted away to victory without too much effort.

For Kerry, it was one of the most unimpressive eight point wins you’re likely to see. Where does it leave Kerry? Well we’re in a semi-final but there’s still on the whole an uneven quality to this Kerry team in too many lines and we don’t convince. Dublin may not be the force of old either but for sure this current configuration won’t be quaking in their boots at playing this current Kerry team - nor should they.

[ciarrai4sam]

Jun 26, 2022 16:41:30 GMT trevor73 said:

Kevin Curry Mc Stay is a sickener

Agree

[kerrybhoy06]

Moran, best midfielder in the country.
Talk about using him as an impact sub is just laughable, should we use Clifford as one!

[haryegsnbaken]

Thought we played well within ourselves today.

At no stage was I overly worried.

A banana skin avoided .

With regards to other posters who say we won’t do. Who are better than us right now?

Super happy and super proud of our boys.

The season has been extended and the Dubs are on the horizon.

Happy Days.

[haryegsnbaken]

Jun 26, 2022 19:48:01 GMT kerrybhoy06 said:

Moran, best midfielder in the country.
Talk about using him as an impact sub is just laughable, should we use Clifford as one!

Plus 1

[haryegsnbaken]

Now that the QF is over.

Has anyone any idea what happened JB and Adrian?

[misteallaigh abú]

Jun 26, 2022 16:47:58 GMT Annascaultilidie said:

I am no medical doctor but got to worry about Clifford if we get passed this game. To me he should come off. Medical might suggest otherwise.

Wasn't day for long ball but seems drier now. Geaney.

When has Jack O Connor ever put player welfare as a priority? I think he had Tony Brosnan and another panellist drive to Templetuohy after a Sigerson game to play a meaningless Mc Grath cup game. I sincerely hope that he doesn’t pay as heavy a price as James Horan has paid for demanding the same of his players, Conroy being the main one to suffer.

[onlykerry]

Jun 26, 2022 17:58:21 GMT kingdomkerry said:

Poor performance. Mayo were cat.

Agreed but we are still alive and that is the number 1 consideration - getting the gander up for Dublin will be easy and we will have had a game under our belt. 

[sullyschoice]

I thought Clifford was gone after 5 minutes. Dont know how he stayed on. By halftime he had 1-02 on one leg. The ball going in to him didn't help either.

[mayofan1]

Congrats to the kingdom. The much better team today. We were finally put out of our misery today. Simply not good enough this year. All the best for the rest of the championship.

[carthalawn]

Strange contest, once Kerry went 3 up in the second half, the result was never in doubt. Moran a colossus, great to see his dominating and taking the game to Mayo. Joe O’Connor found his stride quickly when he came on and must be a real option. The game went by DoC, DM and PC, none of whom made an impact. We got turned over too easy, Dublin will absolutely punish these errors. Disappointed that we didn’t press Mayo, felt we played into their running game by conceding the kick out. Against Dublin we will need to bring something new. The defensive system did ok, though we badly missed Adrian as Mayo exploited the space where he normally occupies. Not a bad set up for Kerry, this game will bring them on a lot.

[Annascaultilidie]

I think this Kerry side is overrated. I think they will win an All Ireland but they won't win multiple All Irelands.

I think we look at our players and when we see them in a Kerry jersey we add three inches.

Kerry have become a great league team.

I think Kerry rely far too much on David Clifford and it was incredible he lasted so long while obviously not right.

I think the Kerry team of the 2000s had characters that are not on this team.

I don't think Kerry underperformed today. I don't think there was anything wrong with the tactics.

I just think they are not as good as we hope and think they are. Is the squad depth there?

That is my conclusion. It's depressing and I hope I am wrong.

[taggert]

Was at the game.
Kerry were very heavy legged and it took a long time to blow out some very dirty petrol.
That wasn't just 1 or 2, it was 10 or 12.

As Sully says, some of the ball into Clifford was simply shocking. Passed to his feet or lamped into the air. Coupled with a greasy ball and surface, it was as if the players felt we most definitely were a one man team!

Moran was excellent. I expected him to be very good. He was very good versus Tyrone in the semi last year before burning out. Jack was very poor that day. Diarmuid was very poor today.

Croker is not the easiest pitch to turn on after rain, and we had several losing their footing, some more than once.

Our best line was our full back line with the 2 corner boys adding great value - 4 points - going forward. Morley was very good.
White and Begleys decision making today wasn't good.

Kerry's half forward line was poor for long spells even if Stephen set David up nicely fir the goal and Seanie had a good last quarter. Darragh looked unfit and the heaviest of the heavy legs. Paudie had his worst game yet fir Kerry and his second successive championship stinker at Croker - first Tyrone and now Mayo.

The winning of the game was twofold - one was Mayo's profligacy in front of goal, exemplified by their opening 10 minutes after Half Time. The other was David Clifford. When he got any decent ball he either scored or assisted. His goal showed Geaney how to finish when the need is most. Clinical. A joy to watch.

Roll on Dublin - I think today will have brought us on a pile. But we need to hit top gear in 2 weeks or else we are done for.

[taggert]

Jun 26, 2022 20:29:54 GMT Annascaultilidie said:

I think this Kerry side is overrated. I think they will win an All Ireland but they won't win multiple All Irelands.

I think we look at our players and when we see them in a Kerry jersey we add three inches.

Kerry have become a great league team.

I think Kerry rely far too much on David Clifford and it was incredible he lasted so long while obviously not right.

I think the Kerry team of the 2000s had characters that are not on this team.

I don't think Kerry underperformed today. I don't think there was anything wrong with the tactics.

I just think they are not as good as we hope and think they are. Is the squad depth there?

That is my conclusion. It's depressing and I hope I am wrong.

I agree.

[Annascaultilidie]

Jun 26, 2022 20:36:29 GMT taggert said:

Jun 26, 2022 20:29:54 GMT Annascaultilidie said:

I think this Kerry side is overrated. I think they will win an All Ireland but they won't win multiple All Irelands.

I think we look at our players and when we see them in a Kerry jersey we add three inches.

Kerry have become a great league team.

I think Kerry rely far too much on David Clifford and it was incredible he lasted so long while obviously not right.

I think the Kerry team of the 2000s had characters that are not on this team.

I don't think Kerry underperformed today. I don't think there was anything wrong with the tactics.

I just think they are not as good as we hope and think they are. Is the squad depth there?

That is my conclusion. It's depressing and I hope I am wrong.

I agree.

Kerry win by eight and we feel like this. It's mad. Mayo were so poor. Mayo performed at the level we expect. They have been a great championship team.

[haryegsnbaken]

Jun 26, 2022 20:29:54 GMT Annascaultilidie said:

I think this Kerry side is overrated. I think they will win an All Ireland but they won't win multiple All Irelands.

I think we look at our players and when we see them in a Kerry jersey we add three inches.

Kerry have become a great league team.

I think Kerry rely far too much on David Clifford and it was incredible he lasted so long while obviously not right.

I think the Kerry team of the 2000s had characters that are not on this team.

I don't think Kerry underperformed today. I don't think there was anything wrong with the tactics.

I just think they are not as good as we hope and think they are. Is the squad depth there?

That is my conclusion. It's depressing and I hope I am wrong.

We’ll now Scaul. Your pessimism was mine before this weekend.

But after the weekend, I cannot see any world beaters.

Hence the fact that I feel that we are the team that can improve the most.

For sure we will need to, but I do think we will. 

Happy enough heading in to this semi to be honest 👍

[taggert]

Jun 26, 2022 20:45:07 GMT Annascaultilidie said:

Jun 26, 2022 20:36:29 GMT taggert said:

I agree.

Kerry win by eight and we feel like this. It's mad. Mayo were so poor. Mayo performed at the level we expect. They have been a great championship team.

I just dont think we have the characters that drove that Dublin team - Cluxton, Fitzsimons, McCarthy, Fenton, Kilkenny, Rock or that Kerry team - O'Se's, Mahony, Declan, Star, Gooch.

Men. Winners. Setting the standard. Setting the tone.

We have some fine players and I think this year is our best chance.

[Annascaultilidie]

Jun 26, 2022 20:50:21 GMT haryegsnbaken said:

Jun 26, 2022 20:29:54 GMT Annascaultilidie said:

I think this Kerry side is overrated. I think they will win an All Ireland but they won't win multiple All Irelands.

I think we look at our players and when we see them in a Kerry jersey we add three inches.

Kerry have become a great league team.

I think Kerry rely far too much on David Clifford and it was incredible he lasted so long while obviously not right.

I think the Kerry team of the 2000s had characters that are not on this team.

I don't think Kerry underperformed today. I don't think there was anything wrong with the tactics.

I just think they are not as good as we hope and think they are. Is the squad depth there?

That is my conclusion. It's depressing and I hope I am wrong.

We’ll now Scaul. Your pessimism was mine before this weekend.

But after the weekend, I cannot see any world beaters.

Hence the fact that I feel that we are the team that can improve the most.

For sure we will need to, but I do think we will. 

Happy enough heading in to this semi to be honest 👍

Well I see an All Ireland in this team and it could be this year of course.

But would that be a springboard? Time will tell.

[colinsworth1]

Kerry fan s need a reality check that performance today does not beat Dublin
We played ball into Clifford today like we had no other options
He was injured and had Hession sweeping. In front of him he good but not Superman how about playing SOS into it some more ?
We need to figure out a way to get Joe o Connor and Stephan Okundbar on to the field David Moran bailed us out today the senior citizen of kerry midfielders he also changed the game against Cork. Surely the penny will drop and we ll figure out where we have most room for improvement

[kerrybhoy06]

Jun 26, 2022 21:18:07 GMT colinsworth1 said:

Kerry fan s need a reality check that performance today does not beat Dublin
We played ball into Clifford today like we had no other options
He was injured and had Hession sweeping. In front of him he good but not Superman how about playing SOS into it some more ?
We need to figure out a way to get Joe o Connor and Stephan Okundbar on to the field David Moran bailed us out today the senior citizen of kerry midfielders he also changed the game against Cork. Surely the penny will drop and we ll figure out where we have most room for improvement

Get Joe & Stefan onto the field?
Joe did well today when he came on but has very little experience at this level.

How many games have you seen Stefan play since he got back from Oz?

[taggert]

Jun 26, 2022 21:18:07 GMT colinsworth1 said:

Kerry fan s need a reality check that performance today does not beat Dublin
We played ball into Clifford today like we had no other options
He was injured and had Hession sweeping. In front of him he good but not Superman how about playing SOS into it some more ?
We need to figure out a way to get Joe o Connor and Stephan Okundbar on to the field David Moran bailed us out today the senior citizen of kerry midfielders he also changed the game against Cork. Surely the penny will drop and we ll figure out where we have most room for improvement

I think we all know that the same performance versus Dublin means exit stage left. With better Kerry teams, we nearly came a cropper before in a Quarter Final. Monaghan for example.
We arrived today, undercooked, untested, having not played in 4 weeks, missing a bit of depth, a greasy surface and a half empty stadium with very little support. We got thru it.
Nobody is getting carried away.

[Mickmack]

I am a bit despondent tonight.

Kerry had 24 turnovers today according to TSG. We can say that they were undercooked etc etc.

But Galway had the same gap since the Connacht final and today Galway had a well thought out approach whereby they attached in a tight group and passed the ball around till the shot was on. Some of Kerrys attacking attempts in the first half was a shock.

I struggle to see what Dara Moynihan contributed today. At least he was injured last year v Tyrone. Did any of our half forwards kick a point for distance?

Once again the backs did well and TS was outstanding. David Moran had another huge game.

Jack is going to have to start Killian v Dublin. Maybe Paudie to the half forward line with DM dropping to the subs.

[peanuts]

Jun 26, 2022 21:49:48 GMT Mickmack said:

I am a bit despondent tonight.

Kerry had 24 turnovers today according to TSG. We can say that they were undercooked etc etc.

But Galway had the same gap since the Connacht final and today Galway had a well thought out approach whereby they attached in a tight group and passed the ball around till the shot was on. Some of Kerrys attacking attempts in the first half was a shock.

I struggle to see what Dara Moynihan contributed today. At least he was injured last year v Tyrone. Did any of our half forwards kick a point for distance?

Once again the backs did well and TS was outstanding. David Moran had another huge game.

Jack is going to have to start Killian v Dublin. Maybe Paudie to the half forward line with DM dropping to the subs.

There was a huge difference in the conditions between the 2 games. That has to kept in mind. Overall it’s not a bad way for Kerry to be going in against Dublin, plenty to work on.